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Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 12/27/2012 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meanwhile.....they keep SPENDING. (and they want MORE taxes???) USDA awards researchers $1.3 million grant to study ‘Christmas tree rot’ Dec 24, 2012 "The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) has approved $1.3 million in funds for research on “Christmas tree rot,” Campus Reform learned on Monday." [link to www.campusreform.org] Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 12/27/2012 05:28 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13825301 United States 12/27/2012 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Instead of repeating "fiscal cliff" over and over, why don't they talk about the points of contention? What are they arguing over? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30708042 Wall Street Journal online has a little interactive game where you can do the voting for them. You get to click a box for each of the proposals you like, and a line chart at the top tells whether you have balanced the budget. You get choices like "decrease benefit payments" and "increase taxes on..." but military spending cuts are not in the list of options. |
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Keneh User ID: 30197356 United States 12/27/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Bush tax cuts expire, a bunch of spending cuts go into effect, and Obama's health care taxes go into effect. supposedly all these higher taxes and spending cuts are supposed to throw us back into the recession Keneh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2849260 United States 12/27/2012 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why does the left believe raising the taxes on the rich will 'fix' the economy? It baffles me.. Quoting: TheCartel My little sister can manage wealth better than these clowns in washington I do have to agree with you in a sense. If the government can't responsibly handle the money that has already been entrusted to them, the answer is NOT to give them even more money to waste. As far as the laws go though, we most likely wouldn't have found ourselves in a situation where most people are struggling while a very few have so much money they couldn't possibly spend it in a lifetime if the laws all along had been geared to preventing something like that from happening in the first place. We've had minimum wage laws for years. Perhaps it's time to implement MAXIMUM wage laws as well. Check out this chart [link to www.forbes.com] Explain to me how these people can POSSIBLY spend the MILLIONS they earn each year. IF the businesses didn't have to spend all of this money on exorbitant wages to just their top executives, think of all of the extra money they would have available to lower the cost of the goods and services they offer and/or increase the pay of other lower paid employees and/or expand their businesses to put even more unemployed people to work. The system is definitely broke! Not sure how they plan on fixing it, but something definitely needs to be done. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 559309 United States 12/27/2012 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Bush tax cuts expire, a bunch of spending cuts go into effect, and Obama's health care taxes go into effect. supposedly all these higher taxes and spending cuts are supposed to throw us back into the recession it means the money you spend on food now will go directly to the government |
ChickenLittleMessiah User ID: 1267719 United States 12/27/2012 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone's Talking About How The Fiscal Cliff Is Crushing The Consumer Quoting: Dixie Normous [link to www.businessinsider.com] Talking about it isn't killing the consumer , raising the limit every time it comes around is. We will be working for Zimbabwe money if they keep raising the limit. |
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Paradox0910 User ID: 3674331 Canada 12/27/2012 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People who earn great fortunes by honest labour and creation of products don't deserve to be taxed at a higher rate than the lowest assembly line worker. Those that gain great fortune by swindle or corruption deserve no wealth at all. THAT is the problem with our society. The only thing I hate more than you, is myself. |
Mrgravyard User ID: 28926569 United States 12/27/2012 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What people dont understand is Obama is a Muslim (Like it or Not its True) he is here to bring down America.. America can not lose a war (unless its against China) but our Economy can fall.. Well because of spending and our debt we are on a cliff, We are about to Fall over it and LOOK OUT..$100 to $150 less in a pay is not Good.. We will be fighting each other when times REALLY get bad. The EU is soon to fall and America also... Part of the Plan for a One world government. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28551628 United States 12/27/2012 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Justice Roberts is looking at Obama eligibility today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20756371 [link to www.orlytaitzesq.com] The cliff looms large. Yeah like that is going to help this country out. Some people are so frigging anal.Parrot heads. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30031419 United Kingdom 12/27/2012 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What people dont understand is Obama is a Muslim (Like it or Not its True) he is here to bring down America.. America can not lose a war (unless its against China) but our Economy can fall.. Well because of spending and our debt we are on a cliff, We are about to Fall over it and LOOK OUT..$100 to $150 less in a pay is not Good.. We will be fighting each other when times REALLY get bad. Quoting: Mrgravyard The EU is soon to fall and America also... Part of the Plan for a One world government. Oh you poor brainwashed doomtard. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28551628 United States 12/27/2012 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is surprising to me that many people do not see the subterfuge going on in the Democratic Party, they feel if they keep repeating something over and over again people will start to believe it. Quoting: PolarPrecursor Well..it seems to have worked, which is in itself surprising to me since i always felt the American people had more sense, i was sadly mistaken. One of the main problems with the Senate at the moment is Harry Reid. This party loving old geezer is taking our country hostage by only passing what he deems necessary and shelving all the rest of the ideas mainly because most of the ideas being submitted were made by Republicans, his arch enemies it seems. To watch the man when he comes to the floor to speak in the Senate, is just appalling. Most often the first sentence will always have to do with how he just can't understand the Republicans and how they are just ruining our country or something to that degree. Then he starts the finger pointing and repeating all the old lies about the other side while always managing to leave out how their party has been sitting on their laurels for the past six years or so and do absolutely nothing for our country, they cannot even pass a budget..or do not even care to. To this man it all comes down to party, he is fighting a war of words and wits aimed directly at the Republican Party not caring a bit about what is actually going on with our country it all comes down to hate for the other party for him. He is literally holding the Senate hostage for his own selfish hatreds..bills are not being passed..business as usual is not being taken care of because of one person and that is Harry Reid himself. If the man wants to do something great for this country he should resign immediately and let someone who can do the job without partisan or personal leanings take the office that he was given. The political repercussions of his inability to lead are becoming quite apparent. Instead of doing his job and passing or failing bills that our nation needs to keep moving he would rather sit back and blame the other party about everything under the sun ..make it look like everything since the dawn of time has been the Republicans fault and let the media think that the reason we may go over the "Fiscal Cliff" is all the other parties fault, when in reality it is nobodies fault except the majority leaders in the Senate..Mr. Harry Reid..an outdated dinosaur with a bad disposition. Reid claims that the Republicans will not work with them ..that is a lie..he refuses every suggestion..every offer..every bill passed by them...and then openly mocks them by laughing in their faces..he wants us to go over the cliff...it makes their job easier ..to turn America into a third world country .. Its all just a big game to them..they are all puppets ..some with more power than others..their goal is the redistribution of all of America's wealth to the rest of the world..at all costs..and their puppet master is George Soros..you don't believe me? Obama was handpicked to be President many many years ago because of his skin color and oratory skills...divide and conquer..the new world order brought to you by the United Nations via George Soros is at your service.. All hail to the Great Destroyer! and God Help us. Does your box have any windows? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1475769 United States 12/27/2012 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our government and the powers that be planned for America to fly off the fiscal cliff. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30907685 Should be interesting! They expect us to 'go over' the fiscal cliff as in 'fall.' Since the eagle is our national symbol and it DOES NOT fall, but fly, hopefully things won't be near as bad as people are predicting. you need to look a little closer...the eagle is NOT our national symbol, it is the phoenix. Take out a dollar bill and look at the back of the top of the head. See that little cowlick on it? That's a phoenix. out of chaos; order. |
Baconbeard User ID: 30979090 Australia 12/27/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is one of the more intelligent responses I've read, although it does wander off into kook territory toward the end. It was on page two of this debate... By Design...by both parties of our government. Quoting: essence428 It's all pre-planned and has been since the 90's. If you want to know what's coming, read this. This "Intelligence Insider" has been right on in predicting our "future" since I've been following him. He was right on with his predictions on Benghazi. Very scary what he says is coming. Everyone should read this. A sampling of this article: DH: There’s a lot here. Let’s take it step by step if you don’t mind. RB: Okay, but I’m not going to give it to you in baby steps. Big boy steps. This is what I am hearing. Life for the average American is going to change significantly, and not the change people expect. First, DHS is preparing to work with police departments and the TSA to respond to civil uprisings that will happen when there is a financial panic. And there will be one, maybe as early as this spring, when the dollar won’t get you a gumball. I’m not sure what the catalyst will be, but I’ve heard rumblings about a derivatives crisis as well as an oil embargo. I don’t know, that’s not my department. But something is going to happen to collapse the dollar, which has been in the works since the 1990s. Now if it does not happen as soon as this, it’s because there are people, real patriots, who are working to prevent this, so it’s a fluid dynamic. But that doesn’t change the preparations. And the preparations are these: DHS is prepositioning assets in strategic areas near urban centers all across the country. Storage depots. Armories. And even detainment facilities, known as FEMA camps. FEMA does not even know that the facilities are earmarked for detainment by executive orders, at least not in the traditional sense they were intended. By the way, people drive by some of these armories every day without even giving them a second look. Commercial and business real estate across the country are being bought up or leased for storage purposes. Very low profile. Anyway, I am hearing that the plan from on high is to let the chaos play out for a while, making ordinary citizens beg for troops to be deployed to restore order. but it’s all organized to make them appear as good guys. That’s when the real head knocking will take place. We’re talking travel restrictions, which should not be a problem because gas will be rationed or unavailable. The TSA will be in charge of travel, or at least be a big part of it. They will be commissioned, upgraded from their current status. They, I mean Jarrett and Obama as well as a few others in government, are working to create a perfect storm too. This is being timed to coincide with new gun laws. DH: New federal gun laws? RB: Yes. Count on the criminalization to possess just about every gun you can think of. Not only restrictions, but actual criminalization of possessing a banned firearm. I heard this directly from the highest of my sources. Plans were made in the ‘90s but were withheld. Now, it’s a new day, a new time, and they are riding the wave of emotion from Sandy Hook, which, by the way as tragic as it was, well, it stinks to high heaven. I mean there are many things wrong there, and first reports are fast disappearing. The narrative is being changed. Look, there is something wrong with Sandy Hook, but if you write it, you’ll be called a kook or worse. DH: Sure RB: But Sandy Hook, there’s something very wrong there. But I am hearing that won’t be the final straw. There will be another if they think it’s necessary. DH: Another shooting? RB: Yes. DH: That would mean they are at least complicit. RB: Well, that’s one way of looking at it. DH: Are they? Were they? RB: Do your own research. Nothing I say, short of bringing you photographs and documents will convince anyone, and even then, it’s like [DELETED] in the wind. [link to www.canadafreepress.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29373378 Australia 12/27/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People who earn great fortunes by honest labour and creation of products don't deserve to be taxed at a higher rate than the lowest assembly line worker. Quoting: Paradox0910 Bullshit. Anyone who claims he has earned a "great fortune" by honest labour, surely is NOT honest. that's right...no one ever got rich making $4 an hour. |
Baconbeard User ID: 30979090 Australia 12/27/2012 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, for my opinion. A) If America cannot, or refuses to repay its debt, say goodbye to your dollar value. You cannot simply print more money because it will all be next to worthless. Nobody will want to trade with the American dollar. B) With a shitty dollar, investment becomes impossible. Businesses will fail and every debt within America will be called in. This will create a cascade of bankruptcy. That inability of anyone being able to pay their debt will cause an economic collapse. C) Everything will be expensive. And no-one will want to provide goods and services to a country where the dollar is worthless. Think; Backward African, Asian countries. Tour leaders are on the brink of a Third World America. D) America will need more money to avoid these issues. It will probably want to borrow its way out of trouble. To do this it will need to raise taxes on everything it can. EVERYTHING. Services will have to be cut and public servants trimmed off by the bushel. Kiss goodbye to the military spending of the past. It too will have to be cut back. This overview is very simple look for those who need some insight into how bad things could get if America refuses to tax up in order to be granted more money. Your great country needs a handout. In effect, your government is currently running on food stamps. Get ready for some interesting times. |
AdHocBOHICA User ID: 19723065 United States 12/27/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People who earn great fortunes by honest labour and creation of products don't deserve to be taxed at a higher rate than the lowest assembly line worker. Quoting: Paradox0910 Bullshit. Anyone who claims he has earned a "great fortune" by honest labour, surely is NOT honest. that's right...no one ever got rich making $4 an hour. To much is given much is required, want to redistribute wealth? A simple yes or no is all that is required. “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29373378 Australia 12/27/2012 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People who earn great fortunes by honest labour and creation of products don't deserve to be taxed at a higher rate than the lowest assembly line worker. Quoting: Paradox0910 Bullshit. Anyone who claims he has earned a "great fortune" by honest labour, surely is NOT honest. that's right...no one ever got rich making $4 an hour. To much is given much is required, want to redistribute wealth? A simple yes or no is all that is required. i tell ya what, you can come work for me for $6 an hour...Deal?? |
AdHocBOHICA User ID: 19723065 United States 12/27/2012 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, for my opinion. Quoting: Baconbeard 30979090 A) If America cannot, or refuses to repay its debt, say goodbye to your dollar value. You cannot simply print more money because it will all be next to worthless. Nobody will want to trade with the American dollar. B) With a shitty dollar, investment becomes impossible. Businesses will fail and every debt within America will be called in. This will create a cascade of bankruptcy. That inability of anyone being able to pay their debt will cause an economic collapse. C) Everything will be expensive. And no-one will want to provide goods and services to a country where the dollar is worthless. Think; Backward African, Asian countries. Tour leaders are on the brink of a Third World America. D) America will need more money to avoid these issues. It will probably want to borrow its way out of trouble. To do this it will need to raise taxes on everything it can. EVERYTHING. Services will have to be cut and public servants trimmed off by the bushel. Kiss goodbye to the military spending of the past. It too will have to be cut back. This overview is very simple look for those who need some insight into how bad things could get if America refuses to tax up in order to be granted more money. Your great country needs a handout. In effect, your government is currently running on food stamps. Get ready for some interesting times. Are you actually in Australia? You are a DUMB Bastard S.O.B. Think about that you cowardly simpleton. You animals under a Monarchy are simple fools.......disgusting you are. “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |