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They are going for HANDGUNS and National REGISTRATION !!

 
Prof. Einstein

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Looks like the Mods might be on break, or have simply missed this post.

I see that someone else caught this and posted several minutes after me.

Regardless, we are living in historical times.

The question is: What is the penalty for NON-COMPLIANCE to registration?

rockon
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$250,000 fine, and garnish your bank accounts and income
until it's paid off.
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so, when you bury all of your guns in the back yard,
you better bury all your money too.
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Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable.
 Quoting: Resister


Sup Resister cheers

Y'all check out the points of the legislation?

Grandfathering, except that 'grandfathered' weapons must be registered.

It's time the American people said NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


The REGISTERING of firearms is the most devastating portion of the bill.

Again, what will be the 'penalty' of not registering your weapon at your local police dept.?

Could you even imagine driving to the police station, walking in with your weapon, getting finger printed, photographed and the serial number of the weapon written down.

No, and I mean HELL NO
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Don't bury.

Don't hide.

Don't sell.

SAY "HELL NO."
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Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
 120 specifically-named firearms
 Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a
detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
 Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept
more than 10 rounds


So are they saying that, if the bill is enacted, a citizen cannot sell/transfer his own property, in this case, a gun?

How 'progressive'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


dunno, who knows what they will try to sneak in the bill. The verbage is quite vague in this newly proposed bill
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Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable.
 Quoting: Resister


Sup Resister cheers

Y'all check out the points of the legislation?

Grandfathering, except that 'grandfathered' weapons must be registered.

It's time the American people said NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


The REGISTERING of firearms is the most devastating portion of the bill.

Again, what will be the 'penalty' of not registering your weapon at your local police dept.?

Could you even imagine driving to the police station, walking in with your weapon, getting finger printed, photographed and the serial number of the weapon written down.

No, and I mean HELL NO
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


Agreed. I'm printed, but I've a carry permit.

Other than that, NO.

It's time to say "no", folks.
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this sucks... but there is no way this will pass
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I agree, there is no way this will pass. But, it is important to keep it on the radar.
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If you want to renew your Home Owners Insurance next year, you'll be required to list all registered guns! They already know you own them...so if you LIE...NO RENEWAL...if you tell the truth...NO RENEWAL!

Just like owning PITBULLS!

If you have a MORTGAGE you are REQUIRED to have HO Insurance! NO INSURANCE...NO HOME!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30905928


most insurance does not even cover firearms! have to buy seperate ins. liar
Prof. Einstein

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If you want to renew your Home Owners Insurance next year, you'll be required to list all registered guns! They already know you own them...so if you LIE...NO RENEWAL...if you tell the truth...NO RENEWAL!

Just like owning PITBULLS!

If you have a MORTGAGE you are REQUIRED to have HO Insurance! NO INSURANCE...NO HOME!
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most insurance does not even cover firearms! have to buy seperate ins. liar
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yer all fucked. face it.
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Just the fact that they are including handguns should be a clarion call. The registering of handguns does not follow the narrative of the Newtown shooting.

It's like a progressive's wet dream, and they are going for broke.

Of course I recognize that it is early, and that the bill could change, but who really thinks that it will not pass in some form?

If we do not put our collective 'foot down' on this, then we are toast.
Prof. Einstein

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Just the fact that they are including handguns should be a clarion call. The registering of handguns does not follow the narrative of the Newtown shooting.


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they're going to let you keep a six-shooter revolver for personal protection.
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Well, the post did not get pinned for posterity, nor did the other guys.

Oh well, let's just keep this on the front burner.

Gonna be a hell of a ride...............
Prof. Einstein

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the purpose of gun control in america is merely
to help stabilize society, more better.

the people in Washington D.C. are not practitioners of evil, and commies.
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Marijuana has actually been legal this whole time, it just required a tax stamp. Have you ever seen a federal marijuana tax stamp tho?

I think we are totally going in the wrong direction. For the 2nd amendment to have a little more teeth for what it's designed for, we need to stop discriminating against poor people's rights re: automatic weapons

Full autos are legal where I am, the permit is just $3000 for every 6 months.
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Marijuana has actually been legal this whole time, it just required a tax stamp. Have you ever seen a federal marijuana tax stamp tho?

I think we are totally going in the wrong direction. For the 2nd amendment to have a little more teeth for what it's designed for, we need to stop discriminating against poor people's rights re: automatic weapons

Full autos are legal where I am, the permit is just $3000 for every 6 months.
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go for it! angry


1fuckyeah
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If you want to renew your Home Owners Insurance next year, you'll be required to list all registered guns! They already know you own them...so if you LIE...NO RENEWAL...if you tell the truth...NO RENEWAL!

Just like owning PITBULLS!

If you have a MORTGAGE you are REQUIRED to have HO Insurance! NO INSURANCE...NO HOME!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30905928


most insurance does not even cover firearms! have to buy seperate ins. liar
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1610668


yer all fucked. face it.
 Quoting: Prof. Einstein


Just don't register your shit and become a criminal like the ghetto people do. We're all just gonna be criminals now I guess. Then they can just pick on people they don't like and imprison them whenever they want. Following the law just isn't gonna be an option I guess in the future. Oh well. Maybe we can fight it out in court because technically the Constitution is still valid if jurors would recognize that.
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Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable.
 Quoting: Resister


Sup Resister cheers

Y'all check out the points of the legislation?

Grandfathering, except that 'grandfathered' weapons must be registered.

It's time the American people said NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


Register my weapons? What weapons? chuckle
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
[link to line-in-the-sand.blogspot.com]
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Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable.
 Quoting: Resister


Sup Resister cheers

Y'all check out the points of the legislation?

Grandfathering, except that 'grandfathered' weapons must be registered.

It's time the American people said NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


Register my weapons? What weapons? chuckle
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what if yer neighbor rats you out?
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If they think America is too "wild west like" now, wait till we're all armed outlaws.

In a crumbling economy with rising crime.
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Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable.
 Quoting: Resister


Sup Resister cheers

Y'all check out the points of the legislation?

Grandfathering, except that 'grandfathered' weapons must be registered.

It's time the American people said NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


Register my weapons? What weapons? chuckle
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I don't know if it's true, but I heard most everybody kept their guns in UK and probably Australia. Only the dumb shit goodie goodies turned em in. It may be interesting to check the figures on how many people actually did turn them in. They could have lied on the number they got back tho, to create the perception that anyone was gonna listen to their government's ridiculous and irrational decree
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Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable.
 Quoting: Resister


You make perfect sense in your comment, but is that how it went with Clinton's ban?
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I don't know how big it started out, but the 1994 Clinton gun ban passed by a democrat majority in the House. They don't have that now and they remember losing both the House and the Senate after passing that gun ban back then. That's not to say they won't try it again. They certainly will. Best to keep you eyes peeled.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable.
 Quoting: Resister


Sup Resister cheers

Y'all check out the points of the legislation?

Grandfathering, except that 'grandfathered' weapons must be registered.

It's time the American people said NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


Register my weapons? What weapons? chuckle
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what if yer neighbor rats you out?
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They have a saying for that in the poor areas. I believe its called "snitches get stitches"
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Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable.
 Quoting: Resister


Sup Resister cheers

Y'all check out the points of the legislation?

Grandfathering, except that 'grandfathered' weapons must be registered.

It's time the American people said NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


Register my weapons? What weapons? chuckle
 Quoting: Resister



I don't know if it's true, but I heard most everybody kept their guns in UK and probably Australia. Only the dumb shit goodie goodies turned em in. It may be interesting to check the figures on how many people actually did turn them in. They could have lied on the number they got back tho, to create the perception that anyone was gonna listen to their government's ridiculous and irrational decree
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21628294


the authorities don't expect to see guns pouring into
their parking lot on saturday afternoon, dumbass.

the point is that there is a stiff penalty if you are found to have one.
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Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable.
 Quoting: Resister


Sup Resister cheers

Y'all check out the points of the legislation?

Grandfathering, except that 'grandfathered' weapons must be registered.

It's time the American people said NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


Register my weapons? What weapons? chuckle
 Quoting: Resister


what if yer neighbor rats you out?
 Quoting: Prof. Einstein


That's a very good question. What if someone, anyone theatens my life and or my constitutional rights to self defense?

I would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

nowhave
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
[link to line-in-the-sand.blogspot.com]
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Sup Resister cheers

Y'all check out the points of the legislation?

Grandfathering, except that 'grandfathered' weapons must be registered.

It's time the American people said NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


Register my weapons? What weapons? chuckle
 Quoting: Resister


what if yer neighbor rats you out?
 Quoting: Prof. Einstein


That's a very good question. What if someone, anyone theatens my life and or my constitutional rights to self defense?

I would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

nowhave
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yup. it's the Wild Wild West alright.....
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Now we know just how far they are willing to go.

Which happens to be REGISTRATION of ALL banned weapons.

I wonder how long the 'grace period' will be? You know, the time they give a private gun owner to register, fingerprint, photograph himself and his weapon?

Think I'm exagerating? Read the bill.

[link to www.feinstein.senate.gov]
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"Photograph himself and his weapon"...you mean, like in an Oswald portrait? He he. That would be hardcore.
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i can tell that this is going to be an exciting page in our history.
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It HAS begun.

If you look carefully, the existing ownership of banned weapons will be grandfathered in, BUT the MUST be registered.

Registration


Confiscation


Then..........??? Hmmm... HISTORICAL PRECEDENTS ?
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They are so DEVIOUS! This is a really serious situation! Our country has been going down so fast it is making my head spin! NEVER has it been like this for us! Stay vigilant, my friends.
Perpetually dumbfounded.

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Marijuana has actually been legal this whole time, it just required a tax stamp. Have you ever seen a federal marijuana tax stamp tho?


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False. The Marijuana Tax Stamp Act of 1937 was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 1969. That's why Congress was in such a hurry to pass the Controlled Substances Act of 1970.
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NO. They can not ban Arms of any kind.
NO. There will be no National registration of Arms.

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