They are going for HANDGUNS and National REGISTRATION !! | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306067 United States 12/27/2012 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which happens to be REGISTRATION of ALL banned weapons. I wonder how long the 'grace period' will be? You know, the time they give a private gun owner to register, fingerprint, photograph himself and his weapon? Think I'm exagerating? Read the bill. [link to www.feinstein.senate.gov] |
Albino Rhino User ID: 28412350 United States 12/27/2012 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See this link [link to www.canadafreepress.com] They plan on staging as many shootings as it takes to get public sentiment behind gun bans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30905928 United States 12/27/2012 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want to renew your Home Owners Insurance next year, you'll be required to list all registered guns! They already know you own them...so if you LIE...NO RENEWAL...if you tell the truth...NO RENEWAL! Just like owning PITBULLS! If you have a MORTGAGE you are REQUIRED to have HO Insurance! NO INSURANCE...NO HOME! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306067 United States 12/27/2012 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like the Mods might be on break, or have simply missed this post. I see that someone else caught this and posted several minutes after me. Regardless, we are living in historical times. The question is: What is the penalty for NON-COMPLIANCE to registration? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30710630 United States 12/27/2012 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you kidding me? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067 Pin this. This should be the most historic thread to date on GLP. The beginning of the end of the 2nd Amendment. the 2nd Amendment is annoying. It is only bad for those who would enslave a populace and create a totalitarian government. Oh wait, that is what is happening. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30949849 United States 12/27/2012 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it did in 94 and expired 10 years later. Probably the only decent thing bush did or let happen. i still own some of those 10 round glock mags that you paid a normal price for. 15 rounders and up where going for a hundred dollars a pop. 15 rounds is standard capacity for most 9mm's with a GOP house, i doubt that will get voted in both. But you never know, the Newtown shooting has gotten alot of so called conservatives on the AWB banwagon lately. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306067 United States 12/27/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it did in 94 and expired 10 years later. Probably the only decent thing bush did or let happen. i still own some of those 10 round glock mags that you paid a normal price for. 15 rounders and up where going for a hundred dollars a pop. 15 rounds is standard capacity for most 9mm's with a GOP house, i doubt that will get voted in both. But you never know, the Newtown shooting has gotten alot of so called conservatives on the AWB banwagon lately. I anti gun lobby/politicians and of course the bastards elites are salivating at the prospect of registration. We all know what follows gun registration. Just look at history. Do you really think America will be any different? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30949849 United States 12/27/2012 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like the Mods might be on break, or have simply missed this post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067 I see that someone else caught this and posted several minutes after me. Regardless, we are living in historical times. The question is: What is the penalty for NON-COMPLIANCE to registration? the National Firearms Act has been around since 1934. The bill proposed is vague on registration if a new ban comes in. Right now you don't have a Federal gun registry. You don't need to register a handgun in most states, in fact you can get around a background check if its a private sale not through a dealer, as it should be. its vague on required to be registered, because the National Firearms ActDOES not require non automatic wepons to be registered with the feds. They might propose a change to the National Firearms Act in congress.. either way stock up now if you dont have many guns and hi cap mags. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30949849 United States 12/27/2012 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it did in 94 and expired 10 years later. Probably the only decent thing bush did or let happen. i still own some of those 10 round glock mags that you paid a normal price for. 15 rounders and up where going for a hundred dollars a pop. 15 rounds is standard capacity for most 9mm's with a GOP house, i doubt that will get voted in both. But you never know, the Newtown shooting has gotten alot of so called conservatives on the AWB banwagon lately. I anti gun lobby/politicians and of course the bastards elites are salivating at the prospect of registration. We all know what follows gun registration. Just look at history. Do you really think America will be any different? it did in 94 and expired 10 years later. Probably the only decent thing bush did or let happen. i still own some of those 10 round glock mags that you paid a normal price for. 15 rounders and up where going for a hundred dollars a pop. 15 rounds is standard capacity for most 9mm's with a GOP house, i doubt that will get voted in both. But you never know, the Newtown shooting has gotten alot of so called conservatives on the AWB banwagon lately. I anti gun lobby/politicians and of course the bastards elites are salivating at the prospect of registration. We all know what follows gun registration. Just look at history. Do you really think America will be any different? historically when arms are taken from the citizens, mass genocide eventually happens. So far this hasn't happened in the UK or austrailia. But it will eventually, once america is disarmed, so goes the world |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306067 United States 12/27/2012 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Act, to include: o Background check of owner and any transferee; o Type and serial number of the firearm; o Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint; o Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and o Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration [link to www.feinstein.senate.gov] |
Resister User ID: 1461638 United States 12/27/2012 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30949849 United States 12/27/2012 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they would have to amend [link to en.wikipedia.org] it has for many years limited certain types, like full auto fire to be of course tax stamped, heavy background checks, etc the wording in feinsteins bill is pretty skimpy. Without an a total amendment to the 1934 bill, they can't legally make people register "grandfathered" firearms. All my handguns are registered with my county, but that's the law in my city/state of las vegas. elsewhere in the state you don't need to register any gun with local government. In our case handguns have to be registered with the police dept. But no background is needed in that case, only when you buy from a FFL dealer. But thats the law in most states. i wonder if obama can do another executive order on this? He should be impeached if he tries. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306067 United States 12/27/2012 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable. Quoting: Resister You make perfect sense in your comment, but is that how it went with Clinton's ban? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30949849 United States 12/27/2012 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable. Quoting: Resister it closely resembles the 1994 ban that did pass. But if i'm not mistaken both the senate and house were democraft then. just compare the list to her orignal 94 ban that was in place for a decade. It did nothing to curb gun crime, and AK's were still imported, just with thumbhole stocks, and gimped. I own a couple, that i modified to accept 30 round mags after the ban expired in 2004. but the part in the bill that wont fly, is the registration with the Federal Government. like i said, if you guys are low on hi cap mags, or dont own a AR15 or AK, etc. Better get one now. I have a bad feeling about 2013 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 United States 12/27/2012 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing even close to what that bitch is proposing will pass the Senate not to mention the House. This is a tactic of proposing something so outrageous that when the "compromise" is passed it will look more reasonable. Quoting: Resister Sup Resister Y'all check out the points of the legislation? Grandfathering, except that 'grandfathered' weapons must be registered. It's time the American people said NO. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12100255 United States 12/27/2012 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you think of the forces of opposition as enemy, then you have given them a victory. If you come to hate or revile them, then their work has been completed according to their intent. If you fear their realms, their thoughts, their works, or any aspect of same, you have empowered them. It is a time for you to consider, Where are the references for my peace? Are they without or within? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1306067 United States 12/27/2012 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:  120 specifically-named firearms  Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic  Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds So are they saying that, if the bill is enacted, a citizen cannot sell/transfer his own property, in this case, a gun? How 'progressive'. |
Prof. Einstein User ID: 30653248 United States 12/27/2012 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like the Mods might be on break, or have simply missed this post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067 I see that someone else caught this and posted several minutes after me. Regardless, we are living in historical times. The question is: What is the penalty for NON-COMPLIANCE to registration? $250,000 fine, and garnish your bank accounts and income until it's paid off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30949849 United States 12/27/2012 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB), or Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, was a subtitle of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a federal law in the United States that included a prohibition on the manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms, so called "assault weapons". The 10-year ban was passed by Congress on September 13, 1994, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment. The Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired on September 13, 2004, as part of the law's sunset provision. There have been multiple attempts to renew the ban,[1] but no bill has reached the House floor for a vote. The term, assault weapon, when used in the context of assault weapon laws refers primarily (but not exclusively) to semi-automatic firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle (which are fully-automatic). Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', changes the classification from assault weapons to Title II weapons. Merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant classification as an assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms, when fired, automatically extract the spent cartridge casing and load the next cartridge into the chamber, ready to fire again. They do not fire automatically like a machine gun. Rather, only one round is fired with each trigger pull.[2] In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features: Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following: Folding or telescoping stock Pistol grip Bayonet mount Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally). Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following: Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm. Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following: Folding or telescoping stock Pistol grip Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds Detachable magazine. as you can see the new proposed bill is about the same as the 94 one that DID pass. Now with a rash of mass shootings. Its not out of the realm of possibility that this will make it to the house floor. People on both isles are having anti gun fever since the dec 14th shooting all i know is it sucked in the 90s for those 10 years regarding handguns, since new ones could not be shipped with 10 round mags, and sale stopped of anything over 10 rounds. IT was pricey to buy 15+round mags for my glocks |
Apocalypse Troll Trollicus Apocalyptus User ID: 2909691 United States 12/27/2012 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Registration under the NFA requires a $200 tax stamp per firearm. Good thing I sold all my non NFA firearms at the gun show last week. For cash. Lost the damn receipt though. "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible." [link to www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us] |