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They are going for HANDGUNS and National REGISTRATION !! | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30966780  United States12/27/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly we are not afraid of them..There is a lot more of us, we the people, then them.. the problem is we have allowed our military to far exceed us in weapon power.they used mock wars and terrorist as a ploy to test out said weapons..now we are stuck with pea shooters compared to what we have allowed them to aquire..we are supposed to have equal force....but he have allowed them to use lies to gain the edge. that's what worries all americans: you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards actually think you are some kind of constitutionally mandated militia. wrong shithead,we KNOW we have the right to protect ourselfs..only a lazy cesspool moron thinks otherwise...i can see you are the latter. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30662905 United States12/27/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.feinstein.senate.gov] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067 It HAS begun. If you look carefully, the existing ownership of banned weapons will be grandfathered in, BUT the MUST be registered. Registration Confiscation Then..........??? Hmmm... HISTORICAL PRECEDENTS ? This thing is too vague. The list of military characteristics is key for the handgun ban. They could ban handguns that have ANY CAPACITY mag, as long as the mag is detachable, and the gun has one MIL CHAR. - rail/grooves for accessories? Is that military characteristic? 3 dot sight? they want america like all other nations..they want to allow six shooters and pump shot guns...you know...for hunting only...i remember watching a show back in the 90's about the uk and all others banning all weapons but the single shot types...once they do this to america...hello nwo. Of course that is what they want. They won't get it. What they might get is registration. But anyone who has had a background check is already on the list. This is just kabuki theater. The Statist fiends already have us corralled in other ways. They don't need to take our guns. [link to lamecherry.blogspot.com] We need intervention from beings with serious firepower. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30966780 United States12/27/2012 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly we are not afraid of them..There is a lot more of us, we the people, then them.. the problem is we have allowed our military to far exceed us in weapon power.they used mock wars and terrorist as a ploy to test out said weapons..now we are stuck with pea shooters compared to what we have allowed them to aquire..we are supposed to have equal force....but he have allowed them to use lies to gain the edge. that's what worries all americans: you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards actually think you are some kind of constitutionally mandated militia. also wrong again..i don't need something written on paper to tell me when,how,where i can defend myself and family...you libtards are easy to pick apart. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30842286 United States12/27/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly we are not afraid of them..There is a lot more of us, we the people, then them.. the problem is we have allowed our military to far exceed us in weapon power.they used mock wars and terrorist as a ploy to test out said weapons..now we are stuck with pea shooters compared to what we have allowed them to aquire..we are supposed to have equal force....but he have allowed them to use lies to gain the edge. that's what worries all americans: you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards actually think you are some kind of constitutionally mandated militia. Actually, arming more citizens is enough to keep criminals away. History shows that an armed public = low crime [link to news.bbc.co.uk] Guns are deeply rooted within Swiss culture - but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept. The country has a population of six million, but there are estimated to be at least two million publicly-owned firearms, including about 600,000 automatic rifles and 500,000 pistols. This is in a very large part due to Switzerland's unique system of national defence, developed over the centuries. Instead of a standing, full-time army, the country requires every man to undergo some form of military training for a few days or weeks a year throughout most of their lives. Between the ages of 21 and 32 men serve as frontline troops. They are given an M-57 assault rifle and 24 rounds of ammunition which they are required to keep at home. Once discharged, men serve in the Swiss equivalent of the US National Guard, but still have to train occasionally and are given bolt rifles. Women do not have to own firearms, but are encouraged to. Few restrictions In addition to the government-provided arms, there are few restrictions on buying weapons. Some cantons restrict the carrying of firearms - others do not. The government even sells off surplus weaponry to the general public when new equipment is introduced. Guns and shooting are popular national pastimes. More than 200,000 Swiss attend national annual marksmanship competitions. But despite the wide ownership and availability of guns, violent crime is extremely rare. There are only minimal controls at public buildings and politicians rarely have police protection. Mark Eisenecker, a sociologist from the University of Zurich told BBC News Online that guns are "anchored" in Swiss society and that gun control is simply not an issue. Some pro-gun groups argue that Switzerland proves their contention that there is not necessarily a link between the availability of guns and violent crime in society. Low crime But other commentators suggest that the reality is more complicated. Switzerland is one of the world's richest countries, but has remained relatively isolated. It has none of the social problems associated with gun crime seen in other industrialised countries like drugs or urban deprivation. Despite the lack of rigid gun laws, firearms are strictly connected to a sense of collective responsibility. From an early age Swiss men and women associate weaponry with being called to defend their country. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30964415 United States12/27/2012 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now we know just how far they are willing to go. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067 Which happens to be REGISTRATION of ALL banned weapons. I wonder how long the 'grace period' will be? You know, the time they give a private gun owner to register, fingerprint, photograph himself and his weapon? Think I'm exagerating? Read the bill. [link to www.feinstein.senate.gov] anyone that registers their weapons deserves what they get next...they are making lists people.....remember they work in baby steps.register today...knock on your door tomorrow,week,month,year... I wish i didn't have to. But in my county, not state wide. Firearms from a FFL have to be registered with the local police office. The FFL does all this for you and issues you a blue card. If you do a private sale, you technically don't need to do blue card or a background check, you can just hand someone cash and take a gun home. It's a country law in Vegas from the old mafia days, that required gun owners to carry some form of registration or some stupid shit, so they could weed out mob members, and the law is still on the books. They are trying to remove it. but a national gun registration like being proposed here is just insane. the whole blue card thing is just a county issue here, in the rest of the state you don't need to register long guns or handguns |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30964415 United States12/27/2012 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: daisey Exactly we are not afraid of them..There is a lot more of us, we the people, then them.. the problem is we have allowed our military to far exceed us in weapon power.they used mock wars and terrorist as a ploy to test out said weapons..now we are stuck with pea shooters compared to what we have allowed them to aquire..we are supposed to have equal force....but he have allowed them to use lies to gain the edge. that's what worries all americans: you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards actually think you are some kind of constitutionally mandated militia. Actually, arming more citizens is enough to keep criminals away. History shows that an armed public = low crime [link to news.bbc.co.uk] Guns are deeply rooted within Swiss culture - but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept. The country has a population of six million, but there are estimated to be at least two million publicly-owned firearms, including about 600,000 automatic rifles and 500,000 pistols. This is in a very large part due to Switzerland's unique system of national defence, developed over the centuries. Instead of a standing, full-time army, the country requires every man to undergo some form of military training for a few days or weeks a year throughout most of their lives. Between the ages of 21 and 32 men serve as frontline troops. They are given an M-57 assault rifle and 24 rounds of ammunition which they are required to keep at home. Once discharged, men serve in the Swiss equivalent of the US National Guard, but still have to train occasionally and are given bolt rifles. Women do not have to own firearms, but are encouraged to. Few restrictions In addition to the government-provided arms, there are few restrictions on buying weapons. Some cantons restrict the carrying of firearms - others do not. The government even sells off surplus weaponry to the general public when new equipment is introduced. Guns and shooting are popular national pastimes. More than 200,000 Swiss attend national annual marksmanship competitions. But despite the wide ownership and availability of guns, violent crime is extremely rare. There are only minimal controls at public buildings and politicians rarely have police protection. Mark Eisenecker, a sociologist from the University of Zurich told BBC News Online that guns are "anchored" in Swiss society and that gun control is simply not an issue. Some pro-gun groups argue that Switzerland proves their contention that there is not necessarily a link between the availability of guns and violent crime in society. Low crime But other commentators suggest that the reality is more complicated. Switzerland is one of the world's richest countries, but has remained relatively isolated. It has none of the social problems associated with gun crime seen in other industrialised countries like drugs or urban deprivation. Despite the lack of rigid gun laws, firearms are strictly connected to a sense of collective responsibility. From an early age Swiss men and women associate weaponry with being called to defend their country. yup and those stats are a bit dated, they have about 8 million people now, and i read recently nearly half own a gun, or guns. It's required by men able bodied to own guns, for defense of country. if the godamn place didn't cost an arm and a leg to move to, i would. Plus it takes 12 years to become a citizen, ex pats can't own firearms i think |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30964415 United States12/27/2012 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: daisey Exactly we are not afraid of them..There is a lot more of us, we the people, then them.. the problem is we have allowed our military to far exceed us in weapon power.they used mock wars and terrorist as a ploy to test out said weapons..now we are stuck with pea shooters compared to what we have allowed them to aquire..we are supposed to have equal force....but he have allowed them to use lies to gain the edge. that's what worries all americans: you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards actually think you are some kind of constitutionally mandated militia. also wrong again..i don't need something written on paper to tell me when,how,where i can defend myself and family...you libtards are easy to pick apart. US citizens have far more small arms than any army on the planet. no most of us don't own SAW's or M60's (some do, watch knobb creek shootout videos) but we own enough to keep the police state at bay for now they are going to disarm us, just not sure when and how quickly. Seems things are moving along much faster now. Obama may even start a national gun buy back |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30842286 United States12/27/2012 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30966780 the problem is we have allowed our military to far exceed us in weapon power.they used mock wars and terrorist as a ploy to test out said weapons..now we are stuck with pea shooters compared to what we have allowed them to aquire..we are supposed to have equal force....but he have allowed them to use lies to gain the edge. I also think the fact that they learn respect for guns at a young age, and how they view guns helps to keep them from misusing them. Look at the difference in America, so many people have a gun-phobia and are told only the negative stories involving guns, when @ 2 million of us are saved by guns in self defense every year. The media never reports that. that's what worries all americans: you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards actually think you are some kind of constitutionally mandated militia. Actually, arming more citizens is enough to keep criminals away. History shows that an armed public = low crime [link to news.bbc.co.uk] Guns are deeply rooted within Swiss culture - but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept. The country has a population of six million, but there are estimated to be at least two million publicly-owned firearms, including about 600,000 automatic rifles and 500,000 pistols. This is in a very large part due to Switzerland's unique system of national defence, developed over the centuries. Instead of a standing, full-time army, the country requires every man to undergo some form of military training for a few days or weeks a year throughout most of their lives. Between the ages of 21 and 32 men serve as frontline troops. They are given an M-57 assault rifle and 24 rounds of ammunition which they are required to keep at home. Once discharged, men serve in the Swiss equivalent of the US National Guard, but still have to train occasionally and are given bolt rifles. Women do not have to own firearms, but are encouraged to. Few restrictions In addition to the government-provided arms, there are few restrictions on buying weapons. Some cantons restrict the carrying of firearms - others do not. The government even sells off surplus weaponry to the general public when new equipment is introduced. Guns and shooting are popular national pastimes. More than 200,000 Swiss attend national annual marksmanship competitions. But despite the wide ownership and availability of guns, violent crime is extremely rare. There are only minimal controls at public buildings and politicians rarely have police protection. Mark Eisenecker, a sociologist from the University of Zurich told BBC News Online that guns are "anchored" in Swiss society and that gun control is simply not an issue. Some pro-gun groups argue that Switzerland proves their contention that there is not necessarily a link between the availability of guns and violent crime in society. Low crime But other commentators suggest that the reality is more complicated. Switzerland is one of the world's richest countries, but has remained relatively isolated. It has none of the social problems associated with gun crime seen in other industrialised countries like drugs or urban deprivation. Despite the lack of rigid gun laws, firearms are strictly connected to a sense of collective responsibility. From an early age Swiss men and women associate weaponry with being called to defend their country. yup and those stats are a bit dated, they have about 8 million people now, and i read recently nearly half own a gun, or guns. It's required by men able bodied to own guns, for defense of country. if the godamn place didn't cost an arm and a leg to move to, i would. Plus it takes 12 years to become a citizen, ex pats can't own firearms i think |
daisey  User ID: 1478709 United States12/27/2012 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30966780 the problem is we have allowed our military to far exceed us in weapon power.they used mock wars and terrorist as a ploy to test out said weapons..now we are stuck with pea shooters compared to what we have allowed them to aquire..we are supposed to have equal force....but he have allowed them to use lies to gain the edge. that's what worries all americans: you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards actually think you are some kind of constitutionally mandated militia. also wrong again..i don't need something written on paper to tell me when,how,where i can defend myself and family...you libtards are easy to pick apart. US citizens have far more small arms than any army on the planet. no most of us don't own SAW's or M60's (some do, watch knobb creek shootout videos) but we own enough to keep the police state at bay for now they are going to disarm us, just not sure when and how quickly. Seems things are moving along much faster now. Obama may even start a national gun buy back They can never disarm me unless I allow them to do so..We have to stand up for our constitution..Our fore fathers knew back then how corrupt our Government was back then.. Last Edited by daisey on 12/27/2012 03:38 PM "On Christ the solid Rock I stand! All other ground is sinking sand!" |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30964415 United States12/27/2012 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait, weren't guns already supposed to be registered? I could've sworn that was already a thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779 yeh. but they're really gonna put the screws to them this time. No, guns are NOT registered. In modern times, the form you fill out, and the subsequent background check, only infers that you either bought a handgun, or a long gun. Not what you actually purchased ie. Armalite AR15 Model #ABC123 (sic) this is true. But it also depends on the state. No they aren't in a Federal registry (yet). But in some states you have to register even long guns with the county or state. CN was one of those states, and you have to be 21 there to even buy a rifle..look how that worked out for them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30842286 United States12/27/2012 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30966780 the problem is we have allowed our military to far exceed us in weapon power.they used mock wars and terrorist as a ploy to test out said weapons..now we are stuck with pea shooters compared to what we have allowed them to aquire..we are supposed to have equal force....but he have allowed them to use lies to gain the edge. I also think the fact that they learn respect for guns at a young age, and how they view guns helps to keep them from misusing them. Look at the difference in America, so many people have a gun-phobia and are told only the negative stories involving guns, when @ 2 million of us are saved by guns in self defense every year. The media never reports that. that's what worries all americans: you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards actually think you are some kind of constitutionally mandated militia. Actually, arming more citizens is enough to keep criminals away. History shows that an armed public = low crime [link to news.bbc.co.uk] Guns are deeply rooted within Swiss culture - but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept. The country has a population of six million, but there are estimated to be at least two million publicly-owned firearms, including about 600,000 automatic rifles and 500,000 pistols. This is in a very large part due to Switzerland's unique system of national defence, developed over the centuries. Instead of a standing, full-time army, the country requires every man to undergo some form of military training for a few days or weeks a year throughout most of their lives. Between the ages of 21 and 32 men serve as frontline troops. They are given an M-57 assault rifle and 24 rounds of ammunition which they are required to keep at home. Once discharged, men serve in the Swiss equivalent of the US National Guard, but still have to train occasionally and are given bolt rifles. Women do not have to own firearms, but are encouraged to. Few restrictions In addition to the government-provided arms, there are few restrictions on buying weapons. Some cantons restrict the carrying of firearms - others do not. The government even sells off surplus weaponry to the general public when new equipment is introduced. Guns and shooting are popular national pastimes. More than 200,000 Swiss attend national annual marksmanship competitions. But despite the wide ownership and availability of guns, violent crime is extremely rare. There are only minimal controls at public buildings and politicians rarely have police protection. Mark Eisenecker, a sociologist from the University of Zurich told BBC News Online that guns are "anchored" in Swiss society and that gun control is simply not an issue. Some pro-gun groups argue that Switzerland proves their contention that there is not necessarily a link between the availability of guns and violent crime in society. Low crime But other commentators suggest that the reality is more complicated. Switzerland is one of the world's richest countries, but has remained relatively isolated. It has none of the social problems associated with gun crime seen in other industrialised countries like drugs or urban deprivation. Despite the lack of rigid gun laws, firearms are strictly connected to a sense of collective responsibility. From an early age Swiss men and women associate weaponry with being called to defend their country. yup and those stats are a bit dated, they have about 8 million people now, and i read recently nearly half own a gun, or guns. It's required by men able bodied to own guns, for defense of country. if the godamn place didn't cost an arm and a leg to move to, i would. Plus it takes 12 years to become a citizen, ex pats can't own firearms i think |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30842286 United States12/27/2012 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also think the fact that the people of Switzerland learn respect for guns at a young age, and how they view guns helps to keep them from misusing them. Look at the difference in America, so many people have a gun-phobia and are told only the negative stories involving guns, when @ 2 million of us are saved by guns in self defense every year. The media never reports that. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30964415 United States12/27/2012 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30653248 that's what worries all americans: you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards actually think you are some kind of constitutionally mandated militia. also wrong again..i don't need something written on paper to tell me when,how,where i can defend myself and family...you libtards are easy to pick apart. US citizens have far more small arms than any army on the planet. no most of us don't own SAW's or M60's (some do, watch knobb creek shootout videos) but we own enough to keep the police state at bay for now they are going to disarm us, just not sure when and how quickly. Seems things are moving along much faster now. Obama may even start a national gun buy back They can never disarm me unless I allow them to do so..We have to stand up for our constitution..Our fore fathers knew back then how corrupt our Government was back then.. it depends how far you would take it. I dont have a big group of gun buddies to back me up. I think i would just bury mine in the desert, and claim my home was invaded and the guns were stolen. i don't know if i would want to endanger my family in a shoot out with jack boots for a few rifles and some handguns. See this is the problem, most of us don't know how we would react in a gun grab, we can all be arm chair warriors and type from my cold dead hands all day, but if and when the day comes..you will have to weight the risk with the benefits. at any rate there will be thousands of wacos and ruby ridge type events all over the country in the wake of any gun grab. Not to mention larger cities in chaos |
| CE1 ***** User ID: 30781337 United States12/27/2012 03:48 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Registration...HA HA Every time you bought a firearm on a NICS snake check 4473...The ATFE (After The fact Experts) got you on the list... Remember Fast and Furious... -Sandy Hood Gun Shop slink raid.. Paid SNAKES from Snake Hill.. Thank you for giving them you names....shit! Last Edited by CE1 on 12/27/2012 03:49 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28368227 United States12/27/2012 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution is the constitution... Stand uP for YouR RighTS.... |
| oscanator User ID: 24421278 United States12/27/2012 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like the Mods might be on break, or have simply missed this post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067 I see that someone else caught this and posted several minutes after me. Regardless, we are living in historical times. The question is: What is the penalty for NON-COMPLIANCE to registration?  I would almost bet the penalty will be a felony with jail time. These fucking scum bag ass hats. Could this be why dhs has bought so many rounds of ammo. to arrest or kill anyone who doesn't comply? |
| daisey User ID: 1478709 United States12/27/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30966780 also wrong again..i don't need something written on paper to tell me when,how,where i can defend myself and family...you libtards are easy to pick apart. US citizens have far more small arms than any army on the planet. no most of us don't own SAW's or M60's (some do, watch knobb creek shootout videos) but we own enough to keep the police state at bay for now they are going to disarm us, just not sure when and how quickly. Seems things are moving along much faster now. Obama may even start a national gun buy back They can never disarm me unless I allow them to do so..We have to stand up for our constitution..Our fore fathers knew back then how corrupt our Government was back then.. it depends how far you would take it. I dont have a big group of gun buddies to back me up. I think i would just bury mine in the desert, and claim my home was invaded and the guns were stolen. i don't know if i would want to endanger my family in a shoot out with jack boots for a few rifles and some handguns. See this is the problem, most of us don't know how we would react in a gun grab, we can all be arm chair warriors and type from my cold dead hands all day, but if and when the day comes..you will have to weight the risk with the benefits. at any rate there will be thousands of wacos and ruby ridge type events all over the country in the wake of any gun grab. Not to mention larger cities in chaos It all boils down to freedom. If the Government see's that we are not backing down, they will run..If it takes me to be apart of a waco to die for my freedom, so be it..I will not be a slave on my knees.. Last Edited by daisey on 12/27/2012 04:17 PM "On Christ the solid Rock I stand! All other ground is sinking sand!" |
| Sledster User ID: 30917618 United States12/27/2012 04:19 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want to renew your Home Owners Insurance next year, you'll be required to list all registered guns! They already know you own them...so if you LIE...NO RENEWAL...if you tell the truth...NO RENEWAL! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30905928 Just like owning PITBULLS! If you have a MORTGAGE you are REQUIRED to have HO Insurance! NO INSURANCE...NO HOME! most insurance does not even cover firearms! have to buy seperate ins. liar yer all fucked. face it. Shut the fuck up asshole. Fucking queer liberal panty wearing cunt. I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already! Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick. |
| lasereyes User ID: 30946796 United States12/27/2012 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Police State isn't just on its way, its already here...most people just won't allow themselves to beLIEve it. It started when our leaders' chatter convinced us we all needed to surrender freedom for security. But then again, it ALWAYS starts that way. RIP America, you had a good run.  lasereyes |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States12/27/2012 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Police State isn't just on its way, its already here...most people just won't allow themselves to beLIEve it. It started when our leaders' chatter convinced us we all needed to surrender freedom for security. But then again, it ALWAYS starts that way. RIP America, you had a good run. Quoting: lasereyes It's not over just yet. |
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| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States12/27/2012 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Registration...HA HA Quoting: CE1 Every time you bought a firearm on a NICS snake check 4473...The ATFE (After The fact Experts) got you on the list... Remember Fast and Furious... -Sandy Hood Gun Shop slink raid.. Paid SNAKES from Snake Hill.. Thank you for giving them you names....shit! You are assuming the gubmint data bases are perfect and gubmint funtionaries don't make mistakes.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21628294 United States12/27/2012 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe the Founding Fathers' intentions with the Second Amendment was three-fold for their era: Quoting: lasereyes #1. To counter act Eurpoean law. #2. For a militia to be called up when and if needed. #3. For men to be able to hunt food to feed their families and protection from the Natives. I don't believe they EVER intended average citizen to own AK-47s and armor-piercing shells. The shooting tragedies of which we are all too familiar as of late will continue...with or without registration and/or regulation. The simple fact is that people in general are getting meaner. It is to this end that I scoff at the whole "New Age", "higher awareness", and "global enlightenment" talk. How can we as a species EVER hope to evolve when there are and always will be nuts like these walking amongst us? Nuts like what? Our government? You'll know when we've evolved as a species, when we don't need them anymore. |
| lasereyes User ID: 30946796 United States12/27/2012 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Police State isn't just on its way, its already here...most people just won't allow themselves to beLIEve it. It started when our leaders' chatter convinced us we all needed to surrender freedom for security. But then again, it ALWAYS starts that way. RIP America, you had a good run. Quoting: lasereyes It's not over just yet. Nope. Death throes, though. The middle class is gone. Billions of dollars of gold in our depositories and we haven't owned one cent of it since the early eighties. Hate and despised the world over for our arrogant, self-serving, over-pampered, entitlement attitude. Having menial jobs done by illegal immigrants half the people want to deport but wouldn't stoop to do the jobs themselves. Celebrity-watching, scented toilet-paper-buying, overweight, hippocritical infidels. All we export is porn and cheeseburgers and care more about who wins on X-factor than we do about what are elected leaders want to impose. The only thing that makes us relevant in the world anymore is our massive military industrial complex and China just waiting to sweep in and pick our bones. Our citizens rampage and murder one another in the streets up to and including innocent children. PROUD to be an American at this point of history, proud I tells ya.  lasereyes |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21628294 United States12/27/2012 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30966780 also wrong again..i don't need something written on paper to tell me when,how,where i can defend myself and family...you libtards are easy to pick apart. US citizens have far more small arms than any army on the planet. no most of us don't own SAW's or M60's (some do, watch knobb creek shootout videos) but we own enough to keep the police state at bay for now they are going to disarm us, just not sure when and how quickly. Seems things are moving along much faster now. Obama may even start a national gun buy back They can never disarm me unless I allow them to do so..We have to stand up for our constitution..Our fore fathers knew back then how corrupt our Government was back then.. it depends how far you would take it. I dont have a big group of gun buddies to back me up. I think i would just bury mine in the desert, and claim my home was invaded and the guns were stolen. i don't know if i would want to endanger my family in a shoot out with jack boots for a few rifles and some handguns. See this is the problem, most of us don't know how we would react in a gun grab, we can all be arm chair warriors and type from my cold dead hands all day, but if and when the day comes..you will have to weight the risk with the benefits. at any rate there will be thousands of wacos and ruby ridge type events all over the country in the wake of any gun grab. Not to mention larger cities in chaos And they actually consider that a good solution to gun violence? These fucks are insane. |
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| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States12/27/2012 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Police State isn't just on its way, its already here...most people just won't allow themselves to beLIEve it. It started when our leaders' chatter convinced us we all needed to surrender freedom for security. But then again, it ALWAYS starts that way. RIP America, you had a good run. Quoting: lasereyes It's not over just yet. Nope. Death throes, though. The middle class is gone. Billions of dollars of gold in our depositories and we haven't owned one cent of it since the early eighties. Hate and despised the world over for our arrogant, self-serving, over-pampered, entitlement attitude. Having menial jobs done by illegal immigrants half the people want to deport but wouldn't stoop to do the jobs themselves. Celebrity-watching, scented toilet-paper-buying, overweight, hippocritical infidels. All we export is porn and cheeseburgers and care more about who wins on X-factor than we do about what are elected leaders want to impose. The only thing that makes us relevant in the world anymore is our massive military industrial complex and China just waiting to sweep in and pick our bones. Our citizens rampage and murder one another in the streets up to and including innocent children. PROUD to be an American at this point of history, proud I tells ya. I largely agree with your assessment except for the "rampaging" part, with these caveats, the people you speak of are of no importance, and the gubmint and media aren't America and don't represent America. |
