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Senate to vote on HANDGUN BAN!!!!

 
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Nothing anywhere close to what Senator Frankenstien from CA has proposed will ever pass the House. What she has put on her website is so over the top it would never get through the Senate either. This is nothing but a strawman that is expected to be torn down so they can appear to be "compromising" for what they can get passed.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Total non-starter.

Gun grabbers.. fuck off.
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
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Piss be upon you
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Urine is too good to waste on such a dirtbag.

Vomit and stool, buckets of it.
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


any weapon "legally possessed prior to enactment" of bill is grandfathered in. sorry fucktard brits we dont lose anything
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23748411


Caveat: you must register your 'grandfathered' firearms, according to the wording of the legislation.

That's a pretty huge sore spot.

Registration always precedes confiscation.

Always.

We must now stand together and shout as one voice: NO.
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


just what you Muslims would like to see, a defenseless America.
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


LOL fucking idiots in the UK.


[link to news.bbc.co.uk]


There asshole. There.

Kitchen Knives.


So STFU. Banning anything won't stop killing.
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[link to www.feinstein.senate.gov]

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named firearms

Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds
 Quoting: OutdoorsMan


I don't see provisions really stating that they'll be banning handguns. California already has a 10 round limit on mags. The "fixed" attribute is a mag that cannot be removed without a tool...fyi there.
 Quoting: Chip


no. But it does state in so many words any rifles, etc that will be grandfathered in. Need to be registered. It's not clear if they mean a gun registry. Right now there is no federal gun registry on non class III weapons, such as long guns or handguns that are semi auto.

the bill is vague. But does seem to hint on having to register with Feds
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Using Michael Moore logic, gun bans are racist, because Jews fear Whites. Calm down Jewish People!
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Do it, folks - if you have a room temperature IQ, you must now trust me.

Contact your representatives and tell them to vote no on any new anti-firearms legislation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


I don't trust anybody til they have proven
themselves to me.

and I have sent multiple e-mails in
the past and the only response I get back
is from an intern answering the mail.

where is the grievance in that ??
when you do not even get a response ??

writing anybody on Capital Hill is a waste
of time. they only make room for you on
their schedule if you are wealthy or contributed
to their last campaign fund.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3175452


Write a letter and snail-mail it. Also, call.

Listen, I understand your frustration, okay? I really do. I've long ago felt that they are controlled by 'other' interests that are contrary to the well being of the American public, but I won't go into all of that now.

The thing is, we still have some time remaining to try and use words - even if they fall on deaf ears, we will know in our hearts that we tried every avenue of non-violent approach. Only a fool would think that the American people cannot be pushed into violence over firearms legislation. It's ingrained in us, unlike our retarded cousins in Britain and Australia.

If shooting starts (which I don't think it will come to that), draw close to God, and do what you feel you have to do.
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If you write them often enough, you start getting personal responses. I can't say that my email are read by my reps, but someone is reading them. My senators are good about responding to my emails, but my congress bitch does not reply to half of what I send her. I reccomend everyone get a lot more involved with their government. A big part of the problem is that people do not tell them what they expect, so they just do what is good fot them.Everyone, wake up and write your reps NOW!

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[link to www.senate.gov]
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Being a descendant of multiple Confederate veterans, I recall studying the War of Northern Aggression in my younger days.

One thing that comes to mind is the words of General Robert E. Lee. I don't remember them exactly, so I'll have to paraphrase them. If I am wrong, I will stand corrected by a knowledgeable historian that corrects me.

Basically, his sentiment was that he opposed the war. He did not want it to come to war, and his heart was heavy when considering it. But, in the end, he did the right thing and joined our Confederacy.
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you are correct, Lee did not want war.
But the Pope did. The Civil War created
the debt that caused Grant to sign the
US Republic away to the Vatican with
the Organic Act of 1871.
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Nothing anywhere close to what Senator Frankenstien from CA has proposed will ever pass the House. What she has put on her website is so over the top it would never get through the Senate either. This is nothing but a strawman that is expected to be torn down so they can appear to be "compromising" for what they can get passed.
 Quoting: Resister


Yup.

Registration of all firearms without exception.

Strict permit/licensing process to purchase any firearm including background check and training.

All managed by the Federal centralized bureaucratic nightmare.

Then confiscation at their leisure down the road.
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


LOL fucking idiots in the UK.


[link to news.bbc.co.uk]


There asshole. There.

Kitchen Knives.


So STFU. Banning anything won't stop killing.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


England has no guns, but they have the highest violent crime rate in the civilized world (the muslim world is different).
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
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i know so many people who own so many weapons and not one of them will willfully hand them over.

they are entering the red zone against the citizans of America.
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I want to see the list of 120 firearms to be banned, and I want to read the bill SPECIFICALLY, without media "interpretation". Maybe I missed the link on the website to the actual bill, or it could be that my head is about to explode at the absolute disgust and stupidity of this legislation. And it sure seems awfully quick that such a comprehensive bill could have been written so quickly, so I believe this has been in the wings for quite some time. Never let a manufactured tragedy go to waste, or so it seems.

Five stars, unfortunately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5396611



Many of the "bills" have been waiting in the wings IMHO. No one in this current administration is certainly intelligent enough to have grafted them.

It would seem TPTB have left no stone unturned.

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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


...maybe, blow themselves up?
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Incoming are taser guns sales.
Anonymous Coward 51975085: Sorry to interrupt! We are in desperate need of solid info! it's the new drug around here!
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muslim countries just enslave everyone, rape and pillage and cut the heads off of their enemies or blow them up with shrapnal

you dont need guns for that...
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[link to www.feinstein.senate.gov]

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named firearms

Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds
 Quoting: OutdoorsMan


I don't see provisions really stating that they'll be banning handguns. California already has a 10 round limit on mags. The "fixed" attribute is a mag that cannot be removed without a tool...fyi there.
 Quoting: Chip


no. But it does state in so many words any rifles, etc that will be grandfathered in. Need to be registered. It's not clear if they mean a gun registry. Right now there is no federal gun registry on non class III weapons, such as long guns or handguns that are semi auto.

the bill is vague. But does seem to hint on having to register with Feds
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It's just a summary...so I'm pretty sure there's gonna be some nasty tricks in the full bill as usual.
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Nothing anywhere close to what Senator Frankenstien from CA has proposed will ever pass the House. What she has put on her website is so over the top it would never get through the Senate either. This is nothing but a strawman that is expected to be torn down so they can appear to be "compromising" for what they can get passed.
 Quoting: Resister


true it probably wouldnt get far in the house. But what of executive orders, obongo has done many. NOTHING will surprise me with this guy.

Best advice stock up just in case. I'm already pretty well stocked up on any 30+round mags i would need. Prices are already going up all over the web and at my local gun store. Ammo is what i have been stockin up on mostly. I have all the guns I need. Except i do want to get a new deer rifle
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AMERICANS -- PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP YOUR GUNS! As a Canadian, I was born, raised and brainwashed to believe that 'guns are bad', but now that I see how the Powers That Lie are using these obviously staged massacres to disarm Americans, I HAVE BECOME A PRO-GUN ADVOCATE.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS, NO MATTER WHAT THE THREAT! The LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED WEAPONRY IN YOUR POSSESSION IS ALL THAT STANDS BETWEEN US AND GLOBAL FASCISM. We need you to have your guns at the ready now more than ever before -- PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS!
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[link to www.feinstein.senate.gov]

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named firearms

Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds
 Quoting: OutdoorsMan


I don't see provisions really stating that they'll be banning handguns. California already has a 10 round limit on mags. The "fixed" attribute is a mag that cannot be removed without a tool...fyi there.
 Quoting: Chip


no. But it does state in so many words any rifles, etc that will be grandfathered in. Need to be registered. It's not clear if they mean a gun registry. Right now there is no federal gun registry on non class III weapons, such as long guns or handguns that are semi auto.

the bill is vague. But does seem to hint on having to register with Feds
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30961987


It's just a summary...so I'm pretty sure there's gonna be some nasty tricks in the full bill as usual.
 Quoting: Chip



of course there will be. And probably hidden behind another bil, and another. And passed under the publics nose


stock up
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Being a descendant of multiple Confederate veterans, I recall studying the War of Northern Aggression in my younger days.

One thing that comes to mind is the words of General Robert E. Lee. I don't remember them exactly, so I'll have to paraphrase them. If I am wrong, I will stand corrected by a knowledgeable historian that corrects me.

Basically, his sentiment was that he opposed the war. He did not want it to come to war, and his heart was heavy when considering it. But, in the end, he did the right thing and joined our Confederacy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


you are correct, Lee did not want war.
But the Pope did. The Civil War created
the debt that caused Grant to sign the
US Republic away to the Vatican with
the Organic Act of 1871.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3175452


That's really an interesting subject. Thank you for that tidbit!

Have your read about the Rothschilds and the Knights of the Golden Circle?

We should start a thread about this.

Great post. Thank you.
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


LOL fucking idiots in the UK.


[link to news.bbc.co.uk]


There asshole. There.

Kitchen Knives.


So STFU. Banning anything won't stop killing.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


England has no guns, but they have the highest violent crime rate in the civilized world (the muslim world is different).
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


You are highly misinformed... (& I should point out - I'm pro-gun)
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AMERICANS -- PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP YOUR GUNS! As a Canadian, I was born, raised and brainwashed to believe that 'guns are bad', but now that I see how the Powers That Lie are using these obviously staged massacres to disarm Americans, I HAVE BECOME A PRO-GUN ADVOCATE.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS, NO MATTER WHAT THE THREAT! The LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED WEAPONRY IN YOUR POSSESSION IS ALL THAT STANDS BETWEEN US AND GLOBAL FASCISM. We need you to have your guns at the ready now more than ever before -- PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS!
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;-)

cheers
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


any weapon "legally possessed prior to enactment" of bill is grandfathered in. sorry fucktard brits we dont lose anything
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23748411


Caveat: you must register your 'grandfathered' firearms, according to the wording of the legislation.

That's a pretty huge sore spot.

Registration always precedes confiscation.

Always.

We must now stand together and shout as one voice: NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


Yes, that will be the one big demand left after they drop all the other nonsense after the uproar.

Registration of all firearms without exception.

Including strict permit/licensing process to purchase any firearm including background check, mental health screening and maybe even training.

All managed by the Federal centralized bureaucratic nightmare.

Then confiscation at their leisure down the road.
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Being a descendant of multiple Confederate veterans, I recall studying the War of Northern Aggression in my younger days.

One thing that comes to mind is the words of General Robert E. Lee. I don't remember them exactly, so I'll have to paraphrase them. If I am wrong, I will stand corrected by a knowledgeable historian that corrects me.

Basically, his sentiment was that he opposed the war. He did not want it to come to war, and his heart was heavy when considering it. But, in the end, he did the right thing and joined our Confederacy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


you are correct, Lee did not want war.
But the Pope did. The Civil War created
the debt that caused Grant to sign the
US Republic away to the Vatican with
the Organic Act of 1871.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3175452


That's really an interesting subject. Thank you for that tidbit!

Have your read about the Rothschilds and the Knights of the Golden Circle?

We should start a thread about this.

Great post. Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


...the Rothschilds have no connection to the KGC.
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OK, so here is a thought:

are they just going to assume that someone with an AR or an AK has 30 Rd magazines? Or are they expecting everyone to register those as well? OR are those banned completely?

This is gonna be a major headache for them.
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AMERICANS -- PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP YOUR GUNS! As a Canadian, I was born, raised and brainwashed to believe that 'guns are bad', but now that I see how the Powers That Lie are using these obviously staged massacres to disarm Americans, I HAVE BECOME A PRO-GUN ADVOCATE.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS, NO MATTER WHAT THE THREAT! The LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED WEAPONRY IN YOUR POSSESSION IS ALL THAT STANDS BETWEEN US AND GLOBAL FASCISM. We need you to have your guns at the ready now more than ever before -- PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS!
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you are correct

We the People are the only obstacles
to New World Order.

and we won't give up nuttin honey ;)
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


LOL fucking idiots in the UK.


[link to news.bbc.co.uk]


There asshole. There.

Kitchen Knives.


So STFU. Banning anything won't stop killing.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


England has no guns, but they have the highest violent crime rate in the civilized world (the muslim world is different).
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


You are highly misinformed... (& I should point out - I'm pro-gun)
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LINK:

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.

By JAMES SLACK
UPDATED: 18:14 EST, 2 July 2009


Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


LOL fucking idiots in the UK.


[link to news.bbc.co.uk]


There asshole. There.

Kitchen Knives.


So STFU. Banning anything won't stop killing.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


England has no guns, but they have the highest violent crime rate in the civilized world (the muslim world is different).
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


You are highly misinformed... (& I should point out - I'm pro-gun)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30054494


The salient point is, the average every-day Brit cannot just walk into his local gun store and arm himself.

Yes, you can own guns - I don't know their laws and don't pretend to - but from what I understand there are a bunch of hoops you have to jump through, safe storage laws, etc.

Britain doesn't have the access to the firearms they need. Read IX's post (a couple of pages back) about the "yob" problem the have there.

Not being argumentative with you, just pointing out that the essence of the post you quoted bears some truth.

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