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Being a descendant of multiple Confederate veterans, I recall studying the War of Northern Aggression in my younger days.

One thing that comes to mind is the words of General Robert E. Lee. I don't remember them exactly, so I'll have to paraphrase them. If I am wrong, I will stand corrected by a knowledgeable historian that corrects me.

Basically, his sentiment was that he opposed the war. He did not want it to come to war, and his heart was heavy when considering it. But, in the end, he did the right thing and joined our Confederacy.
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you are correct, Lee did not want war.
But the Pope did. The Civil War created
the debt that caused Grant to sign the
US Republic away to the Vatican with
the Organic Act of 1871.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3175452


That's really an interesting subject. Thank you for that tidbit!

Have your read about the Rothschilds and the Knights of the Golden Circle?

We should start a thread about this.

Great post. Thank you.
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...the Rothschilds have no connection to the KGC.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30054494


Poor wording on my part. The Rothschild family played a role in instigating. As did the KGC - I didn't mean they were connected.

You just trying to find an argument?

Jesus man, lighten up a bit. Get your blood pressure down to a safe level.

Now is the time for us American gunowners to come together.

cheers
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[link to www.feinstein.senate.gov]

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named firearms

Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds
 Quoting: OutdoorsMan


I hope they will enjoy collecting from others...

Be like stealing from your brothers and sisters...

Heard of fratricide...not a good idea!
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NO.........I WILL NOT COMPLY
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12/27/2012 01:16 PM
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Have your read about the Rothschilds and the Knights of the Golden Circle?

We should start a thread about this.

Great post. Thank you.
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the KGC was the pre-cursor to the KKK.
and it was funded by the Pope after the
Lincoln Assassination.

John W. Booth, John Surratt Jr and
Albert Pike were all members of the
KGC. And the Pope used assets in
the KGC to eliminate Lincoln because
Lincoln was gonna print his own US Treasury
Notes to pay off that Vatican loan.
The Pope said No and the assassination plot
was put into motion.
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Mayhem will ensue.....
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12/27/2012 01:17 PM
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


Your statement has a context: It is made by a person who is a British Subject. A subject is, well, subject to the state. You are property that is literally owned, a resourse to be managed.

The people you are addressing are Citizens of the US. A Citizen has a sovergnity that cannot be violated. To ensure this, ultimately, we are armed.

We may die in our struggle, but we will die Free men and women.
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12/27/2012 01:17 PM
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AMERICANS -- PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP YOUR GUNS! As a Canadian, I was born, raised and brainwashed to believe that 'guns are bad', but now that I see how the Powers That Lie are using these obviously staged massacres to disarm Americans, I HAVE BECOME A PRO-GUN ADVOCATE.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS, NO MATTER WHAT THE THREAT! The LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED WEAPONRY IN YOUR POSSESSION IS ALL THAT STANDS BETWEEN US AND GLOBAL FASCISM. We need you to have your guns at the ready now more than ever before -- PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29130443


Thank you, Canada.

It's important to note that although "gun crime" is "way up" in the United States because "everyone has a gun", don't forget there are 2 sides to every story.

UK has no guns, but I've also heard they have a much higher "personal crime" rate than the US -- Something that is staved off in the US by the guns its citizens possess.

Higher gun crime, yes.
Lower overall personal crimes.

Here, you don't rob someone because you don't know if they're going to pull out a gun and shoot you (stupid criminals could learn a thing or two about this).

In the UK, if I were a criminal, I wouldn't think twice about getting an illegal gun, then owning everyone in the neighborhood, knowing full well that nobody has a gun. (Personal crimes like rape, robbery, theft, etc. take over)

I won't even mention murder-by-knife or murder-by-car.
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Have your read about the Rothschilds and the Knights of the Golden Circle?

We should start a thread about this.

Great post. Thank you.
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the KGC was the pre-cursor to the KKK.
and it was funded by the Pope after the
Lincoln Assassination.

John W. Booth, John Surratt Jr and
Albert Pike were all members of the
KGC. And the Pope used assets in
the KGC to eliminate Lincoln because
Lincoln was gonna print his own US Treasury
Notes to pay off that Vatican loan.
The Pope said No and the assassination plot
was put into motion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3175452


Dude, fire us up a separate thread on it.

I'd love to get more of your thoughts.
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12/27/2012 01:19 PM
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I just emailed Senator Chuck Grassley on this, but my other Senator, "Dung Heap Harkin" is a lost cause.
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12/27/2012 01:21 PM
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I just emailed Senator Chuck Grassley on this, but my other Senator, "Dung Heap Harkin" is a lost cause.
 Quoting: Copperhead


I'm going to write letters and call tomorrow. I've gotten responses from my Senators and Representatives before, both at the Federal and local levels.

Right now though the wife is making me go out for post-Christmas shopping.

Pray for me.

verysad
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12/27/2012 01:21 PM
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here we go.

here they come.

get ready.
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well, i don't know what all you nutcase guntards are
planning on doing. but i'm sure it'll be a doozie.
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12/27/2012 01:22 PM
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Dude, fire us up a separate thread on it.

I'd love to get more of your thoughts.
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sorry dude
distraction won't work.
in Revolution mode right now.
just wanted to let you know
I knew what I was talking about
which I think you gathered that
already.
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12/27/2012 01:24 PM
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Does anyone know where the list of the 120 specifically named guns is?
Can't seem to find it and want to know if anything I own is on it.
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12/27/2012 01:24 PM
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well, i don't know what all you nutcase guntards are
planning on doing. but i'm sure it'll be a doozie.
 Quoting: Prof. Einstein


you're first mistake was thinking
everyone who owns a gun is a nut case.

you're second mistake was thinking gun owners
are yellow and incompetent.
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


LOL fucking idiots in the UK.


[link to news.bbc.co.uk]


There asshole. There.

Kitchen Knives.


So STFU. Banning anything won't stop killing.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


England has no guns, but they have the highest violent crime rate in the civilized world (the muslim world is different).
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


You are highly misinformed... (& I should point out - I'm pro-gun)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30054494


Actually the highest violent crime rate is in Mexico...which has also banned civilian firearm ownership.
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Dude, fire us up a separate thread on it.

I'd love to get more of your thoughts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


sorry dude
distraction won't work.
in Revolution mode right now.
just wanted to let you know
I knew what I was talking about
which I think you gathered that
already.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3175452


I assume you probably know a lot of things.

There's no need to be an immature ass, it serves no purpose and you lose credibility. No one is 'distracting' you. I am only trying to politely suggest that this topic belongs in another thread.

Take your vitamins, son. You'll live longer.
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Nothing anywhere close to what Senator Frankenstien from CA has proposed will ever pass the House. What she has put on her website is so over the top it would never get through the Senate either. This is nothing but a strawman that is expected to be torn down so they can appear to be "compromising" for what they can get passed.
 Quoting: Resister


Yup.

Registration of all firearms without exception.

Strict permit/licensing process to purchase any firearm including background check and training.

All managed by the Federal centralized bureaucratic nightmare.

Then confiscation at their leisure down the road.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662905


Damn glad I sold all my evil rifles and ammo privatly for cash now at a high profit. I would hate to have to turn them in later.
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She makes me sick.
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Nothing anywhere close to what Senator Frankenstien from CA has proposed will ever pass the House. What she has put on her website is so over the top it would never get through the Senate either. This is nothing but a strawman that is expected to be torn down so they can appear to be "compromising" for what they can get passed.
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true it probably wouldnt get far in the house. But what of executive orders, obongo has done many. NOTHING will surprise me with this guy.

Best advice stock up just in case. I'm already pretty well stocked up on any 30+round mags i would need. Prices are already going up all over the web and at my local gun store. Ammo is what i have been stockin up on mostly. I have all the guns I need. Except i do want to get a new deer rifle
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An Executive order is the most likely method to be used to unconstitutionally rob us of our birthright. Obama has already tried to manipulate the BATFE regulations to reclassify this or that and his attempts so far have been met with heavy resistence and overturned. It could be that some of what he wants done will be allowed to slip through in simple regulation changes at the executive department level. It won't have the official force of law, but it will work in practice so long as no-one stands up to oppose it.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Nothing anywhere close to what Senator Frankenstien from CA has proposed will ever pass the House. What she has put on her website is so over the top it would never get through the Senate either. This is nothing but a strawman that is expected to be torn down so they can appear to be "compromising" for what they can get passed.
 Quoting: Resister


Yup.

Registration of all firearms without exception.

Strict permit/licensing process to purchase any firearm including background check and training.

All managed by the Federal centralized bureaucratic nightmare.

Then confiscation at their leisure down the road.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662905


Damn glad I sold all my evil rifles and ammo privatly for cash now at a high profit. I would hate to have to turn them in later.
 Quoting: Copperhead


Don't sell.

Don't hide.

Say NO.
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


Your statement has a context: It is made by a person who is a British Subject. A subject is, well, subject to the state. You are property that is literally owned, a resourse to be managed.

The people you are addressing are Citizens of the US. A Citizen has a sovergnity that cannot be violated. To ensure this, ultimately, we are armed.

We may die in our struggle, but we will die Free men and women.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11963746


clappa The Poms are no longer even subjects...they're slaves to an almost muslim government.
Fuck the useless bastards. My descendants came from there but they were real men and women.
Britain today is a multicultural nightmare of worthless eaters.
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as a londoner, i feel pretty safe. america DOES have a problem

while i sympathise and know EXACTLY what the US govt is up to (because its as plain as fucking day), 'guntards' REALLY arent doing themselves any favours, you come across as paranoid recluses, fending off mad armed gunmen at every turn

i do believe time is running out for legal gun ownership, whatever the rights and wrongs of it. but what next? will enough gun owners REALLY put everything they have on the line?
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It still won't pass in the House.
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since when has Obama needed a congress
to pass anything he wants ???
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THERE YA GO ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^


At this point and time in American History.. ALL Historic Documentation.. Constitution, Bill of Rights etc.is irrelevent..MEANINGLESS to these people. They have an agenda and Nothing but Nothing will deter them.


Congress is nothing more than a figure head similar to the queen only she probably wields more power.

I don't think it's any accident, many of our Generals have been brought down and so many Seals have died.
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About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol

Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Mehdi 17601732


Your statement has a context: It is made by a person who is a British Subject. A subject is, well, subject to the state. You are property that is literally owned, a resourse to be managed.

The people you are addressing are Citizens of the US. A Citizen has a sovergnity that cannot be violated. To ensure this, ultimately, we are armed.

We may die in our struggle, but we will die Free men and women.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11963746


clappa The Poms are no longer even subjects...they're slaves to an almost muslim government.
Fuck the useless bastards. My descendants came from there but they were real men and women.
Britain today is a multicultural nightmare of worthless eaters.
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whereas SA is a fucking paradise
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LOL fucking idiots in the UK.


[link to news.bbc.co.uk]


There asshole. There.

Kitchen Knives.


So STFU. Banning anything won't stop killing.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


England has no guns, but they have the highest violent crime rate in the civilized world (the muslim world is different).
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


You are highly misinformed... (& I should point out - I'm pro-gun)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30054494


LINK:

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.

By JAMES SLACK
UPDATED: 18:14 EST, 2 July 2009


Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: IssueX


Thanks for the link, however - murder rate in the UK is 1.49 (per 100,000)..

...compare to New Orleans (US most dangerous city) which is - 57.88 (per 100,000).. huge difference

Don't know what the UK considers "violent crime."


[link to www.businessinsider.com]
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12/27/2012 01:29 PM
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LOL, Ban em... Then come and get em!
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Happiness is a warm gun (bang bang shoot shoot)
Happiness is a warm gun, mama (bang bang shoot shoot)
When I hold you in my arms (oh, yeah)
And I feel my finger on your trigger (oh, yeah)
I know nobody can do me no harm (oh, yeah)
Because, (happiness) is a warm gun, mama
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as a londoner, i feel pretty safe. america DOES have a problem

while i sympathise and know EXACTLY what the US govt is up to (because its as plain as fucking day), 'guntards' REALLY arent doing themselves any favours, you come across as paranoid recluses, fending off mad armed gunmen at every turn

i do believe time is running out for legal gun ownership, whatever the rights and wrongs of it. but what next? will enough gun owners REALLY put everything they have on the line?
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all that's important is that you're comfortable

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as a londoner, i feel pretty safe. america DOES have a problem

while i sympathise and know EXACTLY what the US govt is up to (because its as plain as fucking day), 'guntards' REALLY arent doing themselves any favours, you come across as paranoid recluses, fending off mad armed gunmen at every turn

i do believe time is running out for legal gun ownership, whatever the rights and wrongs of it. but what next? will enough gun owners REALLY put everything they have on the line?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27667491


When you've dealt with that rampant and embarrassing "yob" problem, come and talk to us.

Until then, please understand that your arse is showing, and we can all plainly see it.

You Brits have been discredited here. Your opinions aren't welcome. I don't trust anyone who can't manage a kitchen knife.
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First they came for the gun owners...and I didn't speak out because I didn't own a gun.

Then they came for the libertarians...and I didn't speak out because I didn't believe in the individual.

Then they came for the conservatives...and I didn't speak out because I enjoy giving 50% of my income to Dianne Feinstein.

Then they came for me...and there was no one left to speak for me.

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