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video clearly shows both AR15 and SAIGA 12 guns removed from trunk!
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video clearly shows both AR15 and SAIGA 12 guns removed from trunk!
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as a fire arms instructor. and someone who has handled many types of weapons. this is not an AR15, two things bring me to this conclusion. you do not charge and AR15 that way. that is how you charge and AK47 type rifle. now i Also done believe it is an AK. because of the shell that comes out is green. which is a common cheap round for a shotgun. so this leaves us with two possibilities for a weapon system. either a Saiga 12gauge shotgun. or a Benelli shotgun. this is the only two weapons that charge like that and spit out a green shot gun shell.

my two cents.
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Really you are firearms instructor you should refund the money to your clients. First of all semi auto shotguns bolt handles or charging handles are in the same general location unless a left hand model. Color usually indicates the round in the shot shell or the gage of a shot shell ever see a yellow 12ga, no I bet not.
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The officer clears the chamber by pulling the charging handle multiple times. So if the rifle was in the trunk, now what?
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None of you have to listen to me...but I have 25 years experience handling NATO and Soviet weapons in the US Army. I have been around firearms my entire life for that matter.

But what is being shown in that video IS NOT an AR15 rifle. It just isnt! At 1:21 of the video, you can clearly see a 12 gauge round eject as the officer clears the weapon. Additionally, the AR15 charging handle is behind the upper and draws back along the stock, and NOT along the right side of the firearm from the breach as being shown in the video.

To me, this is the most damning evidence of the manipulation, and disinformation being pushed by the politicians, media, and antigun groups. If an AR15 was indeed recovered at the school...where are the pictures of it, or video of the officers holding it up at a press conference as they have the propensity to do when things of this magnitude happen? Where is the additional media footage of the weapon, clearly showing it? If this fits their agenda, you know damned well that they would be showing it again and again.

My opinion, and it is just that....is the firearm "recovered" from that trunk was not an AR15 or similar firearm, but a shotgun. Most likely, but based on the grainy footage not 100% unsure of, is a Saiga 12 gauge shotgun.
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I do not need to add anything to the above post. It is a Saiga semi automatic shotgun most likely chambered in 12 Gauge.
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The officer clears the chamber by pulling the charging handle multiple times. So if the rifle was in the trunk, now what?
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None of you have to listen to me...but I have 25 years experience handling NATO and Soviet weapons in the US Army. I have been around firearms my entire life for that matter.

But what is being shown in that video IS NOT an AR15 rifle. It just isnt! At 1:21 of the video, you can clearly see a 12 gauge round eject as the officer clears the weapon. Additionally, the AR15 charging handle is behind the upper and draws back along the stock, and NOT along the right side of the firearm from the breach as being shown in the video.

To me, this is the most damning evidence of the manipulation, and disinformation being pushed by the politicians, media, and antigun groups. If an AR15 was indeed recovered at the school...where are the pictures of it, or video of the officers holding it up at a press conference as they have the propensity to do when things of this magnitude happen? Where is the additional media footage of the weapon, clearly showing it? If this fits their agenda, you know damned well that they would be showing it again and again.

My opinion, and it is just that....is the firearm "recovered" from that trunk was not an AR15 or similar firearm, but a shotgun. Most likely, but based on the grainy footage not 100% unsure of, is a Saiga 12 gauge shotgun.
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I do not need to add anything to the above post. It is a Saiga semi automatic shotgun most likely chambered in 12 Gauge.
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hello???


this video shows both the AR15 and the SAIGA 12 were recovered from the trunk!!



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as a fire arms instructor. and someone who has handled many types of weapons. this is not an AR15, two things bring me to this conclusion. you do not charge and AR15 that way. that is how you charge and AK47 type rifle. now i Also done believe it is an AK. because of the shell that comes out is green. which is a common cheap round for a shotgun. so this leaves us with two possibilities for a weapon system. either a Saiga 12gauge shotgun. or a Benelli shotgun. this is the only two weapons that charge like that and spit out a green shot gun shell.

my two cents.
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Really you are firearms instructor you should refund the money to your clients. First of all semi auto shotguns bolt handles or charging handles are in the same general location unless a left hand model. Color usually indicates the round in the shot shell or the gage of a shot shell ever see a yellow 12ga, no I bet not.
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lol do you feel better after "telling me off" haha. the point was. this is NOT an AR. my Mossburg doesnt have a charging handle located on the bolt carrier group. it has only a pump. the only two shotguns i am familiar with having a charging handle on the BOLT CARRIER GROUP is a Benelli M490 and the Saiga series of shotgun. you can actually add a charging handle to some bolts on ARs. but its pointless. and yes a green shell with low brass indicates this is some sort of shotgun shell. lol why should I refund them again? oh yeah a basement bully who reads blogs told me too.
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as a fire arms instructor. and someone who has handled many types of weapons. this is not an AR15, two things bring me to this conclusion. you do not charge and AR15 that way. that is how you charge and AK47 type rifle. now i Also done believe it is an AK. because of the shell that comes out is green. which is a common cheap round for a shotgun. so this leaves us with two possibilities for a weapon system. either a Saiga 12gauge shotgun. or a Benelli shotgun. this is the only two weapons that charge like that and spit out a green shot gun shell.

my two cents.
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Really you are firearms instructor you should refund the money to your clients. First of all semi auto shotguns bolt handles or charging handles are in the same general location unless a left hand model. Color usually indicates the round in the shot shell or the gage of a shot shell ever see a yellow 12ga, no I bet not.
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Oh and i forgot to mention. my BOLO rounds for my 12ga are in fact yellow. and i have some dragons breath in blue. my 00 buck is red. and i had some slugs once in green. depends on the manufacturer and year. most green low brass shells are usually bird/target shot
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as a fire arms instructor. and someone who has handled many types of weapons. this is not an AR15, two things bring me to this conclusion. you do not charge and AR15 that way. that is how you charge and AK47 type rifle. now i Also done believe it is an AK. because of the shell that comes out is green. which is a common cheap round for a shotgun. so this leaves us with two possibilities for a weapon system. either a Saiga 12gauge shotgun. or a Benelli shotgun. this is the only two weapons that charge like that and spit out a green shot gun shell.

my two cents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30927848


Really you are firearms instructor you should refund the money to your clients. First of all semi auto shotguns bolt handles or charging handles are in the same general location unless a left hand model. Color usually indicates the round in the shot shell or the gage of a shot shell ever see a yellow 12ga, no I bet not.
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lol do you feel better after "telling me off" haha. the point was. this is NOT an AR. my Mossburg doesnt have a charging handle located on the bolt carrier group. it has only a pump. the only two shotguns i am familiar with having a charging handle on the BOLT CARRIER GROUP is a Benelli M490 and the Saiga series of shotgun. you can actually add a charging handle to some bolts on ARs. but its pointless. and yes a green shell with low brass indicates this is some sort of shotgun shell. lol why should I refund them again? oh yeah a basement bully who reads blogs told me too.
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omg are you fucking stupid or just got your head up your ass???


again the video shows both AR15 and SAIGA 12 were found in the boot of the car

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as a fire arms instructor. and someone who has handled many types of weapons. this is not an AR15, two things bring me to this conclusion. you do not charge and AR15 that way. that is how you charge and AK47 type rifle. now i Also done believe it is an AK. because of the shell that comes out is green. which is a common cheap round for a shotgun. so this leaves us with two possibilities for a weapon system. either a Saiga 12gauge shotgun. or a Benelli shotgun. this is the only two weapons that charge like that and spit out a green shot gun shell.

my two cents.
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Really you are firearms instructor you should refund the money to your clients. First of all semi auto shotguns bolt handles or charging handles are in the same general location unless a left hand model. Color usually indicates the round in the shot shell or the gage of a shot shell ever see a yellow 12ga, no I bet not.
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lol do you feel better after "telling me off" haha. the point was. this is NOT an AR. my Mossburg doesnt have a charging handle located on the bolt carrier group. it has only a pump. the only two shotguns i am familiar with having a charging handle on the BOLT CARRIER GROUP is a Benelli M490 and the Saiga series of shotgun. you can actually add a charging handle to some bolts on ARs. but its pointless. and yes a green shell with low brass indicates this is some sort of shotgun shell. lol why should I refund them again? oh yeah a basement bully who reads blogs told me too.
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omg are you fucking stupid or just got your head up your ass???


again the video shows both AR15 and SAIGA 12 were found in the boot of the car


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why are you so angry? does it solve any of your problems? just curious. and no my head isnt up my ass. one of those guns he pulled out of the truck IS A SAIGA 12. you can see the green shell coming out of it. im just helping IDENTIFY WEAPONS i never stated anything about the video. just how to identify a shotgun with that particular charging handle style. i have seen a video of just the SAIGA 12 being pulled out of the trunk. havent seen one of an AR being pulled out. but like i said. just my two cents on how to identify a weapon system. relax. instead of getting mad at the internet. get off your ass and use that anger to make a difference in YOUR neighborhood. what is yelling at a number really going to solve? cause making fun of me is pointless. i have a good life. words on the internet do not really offend or effect me lol. wow.. lots of corn up in here. i bet its GMO
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Really you are firearms instructor you should refund the money to your clients. First of all semi auto shotguns bolt handles or charging handles are in the same general location unless a left hand model. Color usually indicates the round in the shot shell or the gage of a shot shell ever see a yellow 12ga, no I bet not.
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lol do you feel better after "telling me off" haha. the point was. this is NOT an AR. my Mossburg doesnt have a charging handle located on the bolt carrier group. it has only a pump. the only two shotguns i am familiar with having a charging handle on the BOLT CARRIER GROUP is a Benelli M490 and the Saiga series of shotgun. you can actually add a charging handle to some bolts on ARs. but its pointless. and yes a green shell with low brass indicates this is some sort of shotgun shell. lol why should I refund them again? oh yeah a basement bully who reads blogs told me too.
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omg are you fucking stupid or just got your head up your ass???


again the video shows both AR15 and SAIGA 12 were found in the boot of the car


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why are you so angry? does it solve any of your problems? just curious. and no my head isnt up my ass. one of those guns he pulled out of the truck IS A SAIGA 12. you can see the green shell coming out of it. im just helping IDENTIFY WEAPONS i never stated anything about the video. just how to identify a shotgun with that particular charging handle style. i have seen a video of just the SAIGA 12 being pulled out of the trunk. havent seen one of an AR being pulled out. but like i said. just my two cents on how to identify a weapon system. relax. instead of getting mad at the internet. get off your ass and use that anger to make a difference in YOUR neighborhood. what is yelling at a number really going to solve? cause making fun of me is pointless. i have a good life. words on the internet do not really offend or effect me lol. wow.. lots of corn up in here. i bet its GMO
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all i wanted to do was for you to take this video seriously, its obviously being ignored.

its shows both guns being removed.

watch it.
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as a fire arms instructor. and someone who has handled many types of weapons. this is not an AR15, two things bring me to this conclusion. you do not charge and AR15 that way. that is how you charge and AK47 type rifle. now i Also done believe it is an AK. because of the shell that comes out is green. which is a common cheap round for a shotgun. so this leaves us with two possibilities for a weapon system. either a Saiga 12gauge shotgun. or a Benelli shotgun. this is the only two weapons that charge like that and spit out a green shot gun shell.

my two cents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30927848


Really you are firearms instructor you should refund the money to your clients. First of all semi auto shotguns bolt handles or charging handles are in the same general location unless a left hand model. Color usually indicates the round in the shot shell or the gage of a shot shell ever see a yellow 12ga, no I bet not.
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lol do you feel better after "telling me off" haha. the point was. this is NOT an AR. my Mossburg doesnt have a charging handle located on the bolt carrier group. it has only a pump. the only two shotguns i am familiar with having a charging handle on the BOLT CARRIER GROUP is a Benelli M490 and the Saiga series of shotgun. you can actually add a charging handle to some bolts on ARs. but its pointless. and yes a green shell with low brass indicates this is some sort of shotgun shell. lol why should I refund them again? oh yeah a basement bully who reads blogs told me too.
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Sorry for some reason this thred is eating my ass. As far as the shot shell color goes yellow indecats 20ga. Their is a push to color code cretin rounds so the they are 100% distinguishable from less then lethal.
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lol do you feel better after "telling me off" haha. the point was. this is NOT an AR. my Mossburg doesnt have a charging handle located on the bolt carrier group. it has only a pump. the only two shotguns i am familiar with having a charging handle on the BOLT CARRIER GROUP is a Benelli M490 and the Saiga series of shotgun. you can actually add a charging handle to some bolts on ARs. but its pointless. and yes a green shell with low brass indicates this is some sort of shotgun shell. lol why should I refund them again? oh yeah a basement bully who reads blogs told me too.
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omg are you fucking stupid or just got your head up your ass???


again the video shows both AR15 and SAIGA 12 were found in the boot of the car


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why are you so angry? does it solve any of your problems? just curious. and no my head isnt up my ass. one of those guns he pulled out of the truck IS A SAIGA 12. you can see the green shell coming out of it. im just helping IDENTIFY WEAPONS i never stated anything about the video. just how to identify a shotgun with that particular charging handle style. i have seen a video of just the SAIGA 12 being pulled out of the trunk. havent seen one of an AR being pulled out. but like i said. just my two cents on how to identify a weapon system. relax. instead of getting mad at the internet. get off your ass and use that anger to make a difference in YOUR neighborhood. what is yelling at a number really going to solve? cause making fun of me is pointless. i have a good life. words on the internet do not really offend or effect me lol. wow.. lots of corn up in here. i bet its GMO
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all i wanted to do was for you to take this video seriously, its obviously being ignored.

its shows both guns being removed.

watch it.
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well i have been busy training teachers for free.. i know my ranting and raving online wont change the fact that some shady shit went down and they arent telling us the truth. and for the record. EVERY SINGLE person i have spoken to that has never heard of GLP also believe something shady happened behind the scenes and behind the media. so word is getting out. this is obvious
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The officer clears the chamber by pulling the charging handle multiple times. So if the rifle was in the trunk, now what?
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None of you have to listen to me...but I have 25 years experience handling NATO and Soviet weapons in the US Army. I have been around firearms my entire life for that matter.

But what is being shown in that video IS NOT an AR15 rifle. It just isnt! At 1:21 of the video, you can clearly see a 12 gauge round eject as the officer clears the weapon. Additionally, the AR15 charging handle is behind the upper and draws back along the stock, and NOT along the right side of the firearm from the breach as being shown in the video.

To me, this is the most damning evidence of the manipulation, and disinformation being pushed by the politicians, media, and antigun groups. If an AR15 was indeed recovered at the school...where are the pictures of it, or video of the officers holding it up at a press conference as they have the propensity to do when things of this magnitude happen? Where is the additional media footage of the weapon, clearly showing it? If this fits their agenda, you know damned well that they would be showing it again and again.

My opinion, and it is just that....is the firearm "recovered" from that trunk was not an AR15 or similar firearm, but a shotgun. Most likely, but based on the grainy footage not 100% unsure of, is a Saiga 12 gauge shotgun.
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I do not need to add anything to the above post. It is a Saiga semi automatic shotgun most likely chambered in 12 Gauge.
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hello???


this video shows both the AR15 and the SAIGA 12 were recovered from the trunk!!



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its blurry as fuck you dumbass.
There is no ar15
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again the video shows both AR15 and SAIGA 12 were found in the boot of the car


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Please note what time in the 10 minute video to watch to see both guns being removed from the trunk of the same vehicle.

So others can immediately jump to that point in the video, without having to watch all ten minutes.
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again the video shows both AR15 and SAIGA 12 were found in the boot of the car


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Please note what time in the 10 minute video to watch to see both guns being removed from the trunk of the same vehicle.

So others can immediately jump to that point in the video, without having to watch all ten minutes.
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Thread: OBVIOUSLY YOU MISSED THIS - video shows both AR15 and SAIGA 12 were found in the boot of the car
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Way to put your finger prints all over it to you stupid pigs
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The officer clears the chamber by pulling the charging handle multiple times. So if the rifle was in the trunk, now what?
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i'm sorry. but this is all bogus cut-and-paste bullshit,
put together by the pro gun-lobby to make it look like
the Bushmaster wasn't used inside the school.

the NBC new report is from Dec. 15, and is merely party of
all the volumes of mis-information that was coming out of
the authorities asses during those hours.

(and the officer pulling the gun out of the trunk at
night-time looks like just plain fraud)

what the coroner says, still seems to be true, folks.

but information right now is still very sketchie, and the
authorities are still not releasing ANY information about
what happened in Sandy Hook on Dec 14
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2:30 mark in the video above.
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Its a tac shotgun you can see the shells on the right side of the buttstock when the police officer first pulls it out.
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This!!!!
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I think the gun from the trunk is a MKA1919 12 gauge ar15 shotgun.

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The officer clears the chamber by pulling the charging handle multiple times. So if the rifle was in the trunk, now what?
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False. Was clearly not an AR. ARs have rear charging handles, not side. Plus, you can see a shotgun shell being ejected. It's a saiga 12 gauge with a dragonov or thumbhole stock. saiga makes ak-style guns in shotgun as well as rifle calibers. What you're seeing is a shotgun, as reports suggest.


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THIS

It is a SAIGA 12 PEOPLE!!!!

First few seconds of vid LARGE 10 round mag pulled off.
Chamber cleared on RIGHT SIDE of the receiver,
VERY large 12 guage round pops out, if this was a .223 it's small size would have made it MUCH harder to see.

SAIGA 12

stop GLP from losing credibility because your to lazy to do research.

btw I love the 2nd amendment AND OWN A SAIGA 12
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lmao
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Its a tac shotgun you can see the shells on the right side of the buttstock when the police officer first pulls it out.
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no that is a rifle not a shot gun, there is no pump, it could be a lever action buy i doubt it they are to rare
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its a saiga 12.... cmon guys
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The officer clears the chamber by pulling the charging handle multiple times. So if the rifle was in the trunk, now what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30891577


i'm sorry, but this is all bogus cut-and-paste bullshit,
put together by the pro gun-lobby to make it look like
the Bushmaster wasn't used inside the school.

the NBC news report is from Dec. 15, and is merely part of
all the volumes of mis-information that was coming out of
the authorities asses during those hours.

(and the officer pulling the gun out of the trunk at
night-time looks like just plain fraud)

what the coroner says, still seems to be true, folks.

but information right now is still very sketchie, and the
authorities are still not releasing ANY information about
what happened in Sandy Hook on Dec 14

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The officer clears the chamber by pulling the charging handle multiple times. So if the rifle was in the trunk, now what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30891577


i'm sorry, but this is all bogus cut-and-paste bullshit,
put together by the pro gun-lobby to make it look like
the Bushmaster wasn't used inside the school.

the NBC news report is from Dec. 15, and is merely part of
all the volumes of mis-information that was coming out of
the authorities asses during those hours.

(and the officer pulling the gun out of the trunk at
night-time looks like just plain fraud)

what the coroner says, still seems to be true, folks.

but information right now is still very sketchie, and the
authorities are still not releasing ANY information about
what happened in Sandy Hook on Dec 14
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bump
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What if the media got it wrong from the start? What if there was no AR-15? What if the saiga was the AR and the stupid news reporter said thats what it was so people bought into it?militia
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Where does it show a second weapon being pulled from the vehicle? I think what perhaps you're confusing with a second weapon is the video being looped and showing the footage from earlier.
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Can't tell if it is or isn't an ar my question is this was staged either way cause surely this idiot didnt bare hand evidence in a murdwr investigation?

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