WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT YOU GUN CONTROL FOLKS....

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Probability or probably?

You da man SD!

you have a great christmas?

Let me say that I fully support the second amendment. I don't feel that responsible gun owners, who make up the VAST majority of gun owners, should be punished for the actions of a few lunatics.

I know many so-called "left" people who don't necessarily want America to be disarmed/unarmed. I think that, although there are obviously some anti-gun people and organizations out there, generally, most people are fine with the second amendment. I think the whole "left wants America unarmed" is a bunch of bullshit that's being drilled into people by right wing talking heads.

I think the issue here is the term "assault rifles." There are those, on the left and right, who want restrictions on these "assault rifles."

What many don't seem to realize though, is the term "assault rifle" was used in the 1980s by the National Coalition to Ban Handguns, where they exploited the public's confusion and ignorance of what an assault rifle really is.

Here is a snippet from an article: (yes, I know it's associated with the NRA, but find falsehood in this article if you can)

Historically Speaking

The development of the rifle known today as the AR-15 started in 1956. The strategy to ban it was unveiled in 1988.

At that time, Josh Sugarmann, former communications director of the National Coalition to Ban Handguns, pointed out in a strategy paper that the media had grown tired of the handgun issue, but “assault weapons” would be novel to them.

Further, he added in the memo, “The semi-automatic weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons” (“Assault Weapons and Accessories in America,” Education Fund to End Handgun Violence and New Right Watch, Sept. 1988).

Sugarmann was exactly right. The gun prohibition groups successfully created and then exploited public confusion. In 1989, California was the first state to ban so-called “assault rifles” or “assault weapons.” The gun-banners did not use the term “assault rifle” in the proper technical sense—that is, an intermediate power combat rifle that has a selector switch so that the gun can fire either automatically or semi-automatically. Instead, the prohibitionists tricked legislatures into banning guns that could only fire as semi-autos, but which looked like selective-fire military rifles.


[link to www.nrapublications.org]


Thank you for responding!

I agree that not all on the left want to disarm America completely. That's why although I usually am hard on libtards, I didn't bring party affilation into the OP.

I do know democrats who are gun owners. I get that.


So are you saying you are for an assault Rifle ban? Or large clips being banned?


No, I am not for any ban at all.

Personally? I think prescription meds for kids are more to blame for this type of violence.

Also, on a side note, screw the NRA for trying to blame video games too. They're tampering with the first amendment to help protect the second, because it suits them. It's bullshit.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]


90% or the mass murderers that have sheeple all upset now were being treated with pysciatric drugs. Maybe the thing that we need to change is the way we treat people with mental issues. These drugs are dangerous, and they know it. Not everything can be cured with drugs. Maybe we need better shrinks.

Thank you for responding!

I agree that not all on the left want to disarm America completely. That's why although I usually am hard on libtards, I didn't bring party affilation into the OP.

I do know democrats who are gun owners. I get that.


So are you saying you are for an assault Rifle ban? Or large clips being banned?


No, I am not for any ban at all.

Personally? I think prescription meds for kids are more to blame for this type of violence.

Also, on a side note, screw the NRA for trying to blame video games too. They're tampering with the first amendment to help protect the second, because it suits them. It's bullshit.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]


90% or the mass murderers that have sheeple all upset now were being treated with pysciatric drugs. Maybe the thing that we need to change is the way we treat people with mental issues. These drugs are dangerous, and they know it. Not everything can be cured with drugs. Maybe we need better shrinks.

Yea it was really good. Best in yrs prolly. What about you?

Yes one of the best. Glad you did. Your a good man.

Nah, I just have an amazing family!

same

Im not, I just try to express my thesis on this. In my country we have seen all, a civil war and a couple of dictatorships. The civil war right after the end of WII was between two groups of people who had guns (right and left) and they were military groups, still the civilians were more or less safe.
The last dictatorship was imposed with no killings at all. Not a gun shot. Nothing. Then the revolution came by underground resistance not military comfrontation. If you look at the main event that lead to the end of this dictatorship, that is the Polytechnic uprising, we had tanks against unarmed people (students mostly but also builders and other groups that revolt).
I dont want to imagine what would happen if we had guns.. guns against tanks?
So I think you need people who are alert, who are brave and determinded.
And anyway, if there ever be a need for guns, we know where they hold (stock) them.

But while we are in peace i find it very upseting to have strangers walking around me with guns for their own protection.

This Nation has been violent since its birth. It remains that way today.

Sorry OP, not trying to step on your toes.

Last Edited by MultiStrada on 12/27/2012 02:40 PM

That is an important statement. It's fear, you shouldn't be afraid.

LOL
You (not you personally) seem to fear nearly everything. Your Government, the gangs, the lone people.. I m I wrong? Because this is what I understand from all this conversation we have for so many days now.

Damn man! You clearly don't know the history of this country.....The USA has never at any point in its 230 plus years come even close to being what one normal human would call..... CIVILIZED! Not even for a day.........EVER!!!

A gun is just an object, we are not afraid of the things/people you mentioned, we just recognize the world is an effed up place, and good people should have the right to own protection.

some people will only be happy when the sole allowable arms are those of the single-fire, muzzle-loading variety. others won't be happy even then as loud noises scare people, doubly so when that loud noise may possibly be accompanied by a speeding projectile being sent forth.

so to combat this, I purpose mandating sound suppressors on all firearms.

cut down on the noise and scare less people.

Well ok, it is your country after all. I hope you will do the best for it

There's a difference between being afraid of things and refusing to be a victim.

The concept just doesn't sink in to many until its too late.

I hope so too.

Well said.

How dare you bump my thread!

You forgot to mention that the most evil psycho TPTB are from the USA.

TPTB claim no nation. They are pirates.

Come here, I have something to show you.

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