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Does God intend to ever restore physical Israel as his chosen ones?

 
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"Furthermore, when YOU see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. 21 Then let those in Ju·de′a begin fleeing to the mountains, and let those in the midst of her withdraw, and let those in the country places not enter into her; 22 because these are days for meting out justice, that all the things written may be fulfilled. 23 Woe to the pregnant women and the ones suckling a baby in those days! For there will be great necessity upon the land and wrath on this people; 24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled." Lk21:20
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Prophecies about the city Jerusalem are not the same as about Judea or Israel. Duh
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Prophecies about the city Jerusalem are not the same as about Judea or Israel. Duh
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What are they about?
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why would he give a shit?
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Prophecies about the city Jerusalem are not the same as about Judea or Israel. Duh
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What are they about?
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Simply said, they are not the same. In the prophecy Jerusalem is not Jewish nor belonging to Israel, e.g.
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yes
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Prophecies about the city Jerusalem are not the same as about Judea or Israel. Duh
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What are they about?
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Simply said, they are not the same. In the prophecy Jerusalem is not Jewish nor belonging to Israel, e.g.
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What is it?
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All of the seed of Israel are to be gathered in the midst of Bozrah; whatever it is.
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Prophecies about the city Jerusalem are not the same as about Judea or Israel. Duh
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What are they about?
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Simply said, they are not the same. In the prophecy Jerusalem is not Jewish nor belonging to Israel, e.g.
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What is it?
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God´s city.
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All of the seed of Israel are to be gathered in the midst of Bozrah; whatever it is.
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"The End-Time Flight to Bozrah during the final 3.5 years of this age and the ensuing Bozrah Exile during the Great Tribulation, is a subject that is almost never spoken about by Bible teachers. But this is laid out in the Holy Scriptures quite clearly in Micah 2:12-13 and Revelation 12. And now the subject of the magnificent Bozrah Deliverance by our returning Messiah is no longer cloaked and under wraps."

[link to endtimepilgrim.org]
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All of the seed of Israel are to be gathered in the midst of Bozrah; whatever it is.
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Then what?
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What are they about?
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Simply said, they are not the same. In the prophecy Jerusalem is not Jewish nor belonging to Israel, e.g.
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What is it?
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God´s city.
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Do you mean the New Jerusalem? Russ... where are... oh never mind.
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No physical Israel as a nation state, ever! ---if to answer your question directly.
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Simply said, they are not the same. In the prophecy Jerusalem is not Jewish nor belonging to Israel, e.g.
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What is it?
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God´s city.
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Do you mean the New Jerusalem? Russ... where are... oh never mind.
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A predecessor of the New one. It will become multinational.
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Re: Does God intend to ever restore physical Israel as his chosen ones?
Always.

Reconciliation is always HIS aim.

He causes ones to be in the time of wilderness so that his people will once again let go of anything other than HIMSELF. Than HIS creation returns to the truth of the Father creator and once again HE will restore the heavens with rain and animals and gardens etc.

We are all children of need of our FATHER in Heaven. We are constantely turning our own ways following other forms of gods and they all fail. Just like kids. When things get really bad, we return home. Of course, if we have faithful parents. GOD is the Faithful GOD. HE will not and connot lie.

Look out all peoples outside of Israel. God is not a Father who chooses favorits either. We are children and therefore, we too will need some sort of guided direction as well. Don't ever think the speck is only in Israels eyes. Remember, they have always been called HIS people and He will deal with them for the betterment.

Death is not the end - ever!!!!!
We are more than flesh!

The promise is that HE will creat a NEW HEAVEN and this is a spiritual place and HE wlll creat a NEW EARTH and this is the physical plane.

GOD is smarter than we antly type humans. I am glad.

Read the Bible and use an interlinear Bible that is Hebrew and English as well as greek/English. That that and look up words that interest you for more meaning and use a complete wordstudy Dictionary of old and new testiment.

You will see the TRUE GOD of humanity vs. the man made ones false prophets, teachers, rulers, etc. make up. We are definetly lost sheep. BUT we have no escuse. Do not ever get bored with the same old stories you hear from the Bible. Unknowing ones do this to keep you from the truth of the riches of GOD's love towards us.

GOD gave you a brain - us it! He also warns that we have gone our own ways of thougth. HE thinks better. You will find this out yourself when you study yourself. Pray and ask Jehovah God or "I AM" to reveal HIMSELF.

Remember their are other beings. Angels we call them. 2/3rd kept their place near the Father. 1/3 went their own god wanting ways just like eve and adam. This is where the trouble began. And once again these 1/3 want their powers still. Today we see the mess. They can not lead man kind. They are but self decieved angels, fallen and a mess. Jehovah will not let this go on forever. Israel will be back in their place of spiritual leadership, but first the wilderness again, just like with Moses. Until all their false dependancies are taken away and Jehovah becomes their cry again. HE knows when they are ready!


Look out the rest of us. Again God plays no favorites. Israel is a prime example. He loves His children. And those that hurt any child will pay as well. GOd can use anything or anyone to punish but woe unto that person or nation or thing that does anything outside of Jehovahs words. It's like Judas. Woe unto them, him or her or any power. GOD doesn't lie! We have been warned all through history! God Bless Israel with HIS LOVE and their following once again! Amen
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What are they about?
 Quoting: DGN


Simply said, they are not the same. In the prophecy Jerusalem is not Jewish nor belonging to Israel, e.g.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


What is it?
 Quoting: DGN


God´s city.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


NOT JEWISH OR o Israel ?

SAY WHAT ?


MAYBE IN YOUR IMAGINATION

THIS IS WHAT THE GOOD BOOK SAYS :



The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see from the Prophet Jeremiah:

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

" I will make her the remnant halted, daughter of Zion, to you shall it come. There will come the first government, the kingdom to the daughter of Jerusalem. Now why does she cry badly, because she has no king, and her counselor has perished? For pangs have taken you as a woman in labor. Be in pain and labor to bring forth, oh daughter of Zion ". (4:7 - 10)
The Maharol of Prague Wrote that in the future the messianic king will establish a new kingdom which will emerge from the first kingdom which will precede it. It is as a unripe fruit grows in a peel till the fruit is ripe, then the peel decays. This is like Moses who grew up in the house of Pharoe.1 In the future the goverment on Israel will no longer be as it is now as there will be reestablished the Sanhedrin (governing body of 72 men).2 We have faithful promises God made through the Prophets of what will be in the End of the Redemption, this includes the: ingathering of the Exiles to the Land of Israel, Re-establishment of the Sanhedrin, the building of the Third and Eternal Beit HaMikdash (Holy Temple), the revelation of Messiah son of David. These promises of Redemption are from God, they are written in to the very fabric of Creation.

house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah
Cohen and Levites
DONT SAY THIS IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE JEW
YOU ARE NOT STUPID


WAKE UP !
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the creator does not have a real estate license, so no. He never promised israel to anyone.
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Simply said, they are not the same. In the prophecy Jerusalem is not Jewish nor belonging to Israel, e.g.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


What is it?
 Quoting: DGN


God´s city.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


NOT JEWISH OR o Israel ?

SAY WHAT ?


MAYBE IN YOUR IMAGINATION

THIS IS WHAT THE GOOD BOOK SAYS :



The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see from the Prophet Jeremiah:

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

" I will make her the remnant halted, daughter of Zion, to you shall it come. There will come the first government, the kingdom to the daughter of Jerusalem. Now why does she cry badly, because she has no king, and her counselor has perished? For pangs have taken you as a woman in labor. Be in pain and labor to bring forth, oh daughter of Zion ". (4:7 - 10)
The Maharol of Prague Wrote that in the future the messianic king will establish a new kingdom which will emerge from the first kingdom which will precede it. It is as a unripe fruit grows in a peel till the fruit is ripe, then the peel decays. This is like Moses who grew up in the house of Pharoe.1 In the future the goverment on Israel will no longer be as it is now as there will be reestablished the Sanhedrin (governing body of 72 men).2 We have faithful promises God made through the Prophets of what will be in the End of the Redemption, this includes the: ingathering of the Exiles to the Land of Israel, Re-establishment of the Sanhedrin, the building of the Third and Eternal Beit HaMikdash (Holy Temple), the revelation of Messiah son of David. These promises of Redemption are from God, they are written in to the very fabric of Creation.

house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah
Cohen and Levites
DONT SAY THIS IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE JEW
YOU ARE NOT STUPID


WAKE UP !
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The third Temple will be international. So will be Jerusalem. Know your Prophecy much much better.
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What is it?
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God´s city.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


NOT JEWISH OR o Israel ?

SAY WHAT ?


MAYBE IN YOUR IMAGINATION

THIS IS WHAT THE GOOD BOOK SAYS :



The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see from the Prophet Jeremiah:

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

" I will make her the remnant halted, daughter of Zion, to you shall it come. There will come the first government, the kingdom to the daughter of Jerusalem. Now why does she cry badly, because she has no king, and her counselor has perished? For pangs have taken you as a woman in labor. Be in pain and labor to bring forth, oh daughter of Zion ". (4:7 - 10)
The Maharol of Prague Wrote that in the future the messianic king will establish a new kingdom which will emerge from the first kingdom which will precede it. It is as a unripe fruit grows in a peel till the fruit is ripe, then the peel decays. This is like Moses who grew up in the house of Pharoe.1 In the future the goverment on Israel will no longer be as it is now as there will be reestablished the Sanhedrin (governing body of 72 men).2 We have faithful promises God made through the Prophets of what will be in the End of the Redemption, this includes the: ingathering of the Exiles to the Land of Israel, Re-establishment of the Sanhedrin, the building of the Third and Eternal Beit HaMikdash (Holy Temple), the revelation of Messiah son of David. These promises of Redemption are from God, they are written in to the very fabric of Creation.

house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah
Cohen and Levites
DONT SAY THIS IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE JEW
YOU ARE NOT STUPID


WAKE UP !
 Quoting: ONLY TRUTH 30957385


The third Temple will be international. So will be Jerusalem. Know your Prophecy much much better.
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Because Israel rejected Jesus Jehovah turned his invitation to the gentiles;
"At this Peter opened his mouth and said: “For a certainty I perceive that God is not partial, 35 but in every nation the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him. 36 He sent out the word to the sons of Israel to declare to them the good news of peace through Jesus Christ: this One is Lord of all [others]. 37 YOU know the subject that was talked about throughout the whole of Judea, starting from Galilee after the baptism that John preached, 38 namely, Jesus who was from Nazareth, how God anointed him with holy spirit and power, and he went through the land doing good and healing all those oppressed by the Devil; because God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all the things he did both in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem; but they also did away with him by hanging him on a stake." Ac10:34
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What is it?
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God´s city.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


NOT JEWISH OR o Israel ?

SAY WHAT ?


MAYBE IN YOUR IMAGINATION

THIS IS WHAT THE GOOD BOOK SAYS :



The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see from the Prophet Jeremiah:

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

" I will make her the remnant halted, daughter of Zion, to you shall it come. There will come the first government, the kingdom to the daughter of Jerusalem. Now why does she cry badly, because she has no king, and her counselor has perished? For pangs have taken you as a woman in labor. Be in pain and labor to bring forth, oh daughter of Zion ". (4:7 - 10)
The Maharol of Prague Wrote that in the future the messianic king will establish a new kingdom which will emerge from the first kingdom which will precede it. It is as a unripe fruit grows in a peel till the fruit is ripe, then the peel decays. This is like Moses who grew up in the house of Pharoe.1 In the future the goverment on Israel will no longer be as it is now as there will be reestablished the Sanhedrin (governing body of 72 men).2 We have faithful promises God made through the Prophets of what will be in the End of the Redemption, this includes the: ingathering of the Exiles to the Land of Israel, Re-establishment of the Sanhedrin, the building of the Third and Eternal Beit HaMikdash (Holy Temple), the revelation of Messiah son of David. These promises of Redemption are from God, they are written in to the very fabric of Creation.

house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah
Cohen and Levites
DONT SAY THIS IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE JEW
YOU ARE NOT STUPID


WAKE UP !
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The third Temple will be international. So will be Jerusalem. Know your Prophecy much much better.
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That's right it's multinational and began while the apostles were alive, to replace disinterested Jews. It's still called Israel but the new nation is specifically called the Israel of God;
" It is to YOU, therefore, that he is precious, because YOU are believers; but to those not believing, “the identical stone that the builders rejected has become [the] head of [the] corner,” 8 and “a stone of stumbling and a rock-mass of offense.” These are stumbling because they are disobedient to the word. To this very end they were also appointed. 9 But YOU are “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that YOU should declare abroad the excellencies” of the one that called YOU out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10 For YOU were once not a people, but are now God’s people; YOU were those who had not been shown mercy, but are now those who have been shown mercy." 1Pe2:7

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