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chakras, kundalini, reincarnation---all lies

 
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You guys that are unbelievers are the true idiots. Satan is very real. This world we live in ia the proof. You all think your so smart with your science and facts but we don't even understand 34% of our universe. Satan runs politics and the entertainment Industry by showing us truth through lies. Mtv is a lie but when lady gaga is in a video showing you the all seeing eye, she shoes you Satan. We live in a world where we glamorize idols instead of god. Pagans have nothing on god . Yes the pagan gods are real but so is jesus. The whole point is the bible is a book with many missing books that super rich people had no choice but to put together because the proof of christ was to substantial for them to deny. So they chose certain books and while they left the book of epoch out they did put in the book of revelations. Pagan gods are trying to enslave us and pose aa the god of the bible. But in truth the god of the bible is true peace love and light just like jesus. Jesus message isn't believe in me and stop sinning, its believe in me and do the best you can for the ones you love. Be kind to even the ones you hate. Reincarnation is very real though. In the gospel of Thomas jesus says heaven is within you and outside you. Gods kingdom will not come from the stars in the sky or from within the ocean. No its right here right now. As for Zeus and odin haha they are Satan. They are the fallen angels that fought against god. I don't expect any of you to understand this but all I can say is jesus is your one way of escaping. this dimensional he'll we live in. If you don't. believe you'll continuously reincarnating in this life and your soul will feel like it's burning for eternity. Someday you'll have to make a choice. The guy who made this post is on to something and when the right day comes we will all end up in concentration camps and you'll have to make the choice between the rfid chip and the mark of the beas
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further, there is no awakening, no golden age and what you have been indoctrinated to believe about being eternal consciousness is also a lie...
...notice that David dIcke, Jordan Maxwell ETC take their instruction from channeled sources I.E. deceiving spirits...
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Prove it




either you are joking, being intentionally stupid or are genuinely too dim to realize that the proof was offered at the beginning of this thread I.E. the whole point of me posting the information!
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thank you to--- truthandrevolution7 --- a person with some perspicuity at last!
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I rebuke you in the name of the LIVING Christ Consciousness!!
Not a 'returning' Jesus, but the LIVING breathing Holy Spirit
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You have arms, legs, head, science discovers that this body has electromagnetic field, then they will discover that they have chakras etc... what it is to you? i don't understand... it is written "leave world alone" or "live in it but not be of it", "be witness unto this world".

On the other hand we are so ignorant that we limit God to some religion... that is our real problem. CONCEPTS CONCEPTS CONCEPTS EVERYWHERE.
STOP READING ANYTHING. Either you know or you don't, just admit it to yourself once and for all that you DON'T KNOW A THING. You don't even know what is GOOD and what is BAD from the perspective of God.

Oh... i tell you it is not so easy to be Humble.
In all debates, doesn't matter christian or not mostly devil is working...

It is written "kingdom of heaven is within you", "ye are Gods", "i am that i am", and you think that devil is somewhere sitting and doing "stuff" ? WAKE UP.
The King of Lies deceived humans to think that he is some external power sitting somewhere... while he was always with us for thousands of years hiding in our shadows... in our greed, in our instinctive mind, in our doubts, in our unfaithfulness, in our ignorance, in our hate.... anything but Love, ANYTHING but LOVE.
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Rfid chip(mark of the beast)or death. You tale it and you officially sold your soul to Satan. The decision is yours bur ill die first before I take that chip
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You guys that are unbelievers are the true idiots. Satan is very real. This world we live in ia the proof. You all think your so smart with your science and facts but we don't even understand 34% of our universe. Satan runs politics and the entertainment Industry by showing us truth through lies. Mtv is a lie but when lady gaga is in a video showing you the all seeing eye, she shoes you Satan. We live in a world where we glamorize idols instead of god. Pagans have nothing on god . Yes the pagan gods are real but so is jesus. The whole point is the bible is a book with many missing books that super rich people had no choice but to put together because the proof of christ was to substantial for them to deny. So they chose certain books and while they left the book of epoch out they did put in the book of revelations. Pagan gods are trying to enslave us and pose aa the god of the bible. But in truth the god of the bible is true peace love and light just like jesus. Jesus message isn't believe in me and stop sinning, its believe in me and do the best you can for the ones you love. Be kind to even the ones you hate. Reincarnation is very real though. In the gospel of Thomas jesus says heaven is within you and outside you. Gods kingdom will not come from the stars in the sky or from within the ocean. No its right here right now. As for Zeus and odin haha they are Satan. They are the fallen angels that fought against god. I don't expect any of you to understand this but all I can say is jesus is your one way of escaping. this dimensional he'll we live in. If you don't. believe you'll continuously reincarnating in this life and your soul will feel like it's burning for eternity. Someday you'll have to make a choice. The guy who made this post is on to something and when the right day comes we will all end up in concentration camps and you'll have to make the choice between the rfid chip and the mark of the beas
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Jesus didn't fill any of of the messianic prophecies in the old testament torah
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You guys that are unbelievers are the true idiots. Satan is very real. This world we live in ia the proof. You all think your so smart with your science and facts but we don't even understand 34% of our universe. Satan runs politics and the entertainment Industry by showing us truth through lies. Mtv is a lie but when lady gaga is in a video showing you the all seeing eye, she shoes you Satan. We live in a world where we glamorize idols instead of god. Pagans have nothing on god . Yes the pagan gods are real but so is jesus. The whole point is the bible is a book with many missing books that super rich people had no choice but to put together because the proof of christ was to substantial for them to deny. So they chose certain books and while they left the book of epoch out they did put in the book of revelations. Pagan gods are trying to enslave us and pose aa the god of the bible. But in truth the god of the bible is true peace love and light just like jesus. Jesus message isn't believe in me and stop sinning, its believe in me and do the best you can for the ones you love. Be kind to even the ones you hate. Reincarnation is very real though. In the gospel of Thomas jesus says heaven is within you and outside you. Gods kingdom will not come from the stars in the sky or from within the ocean. No its right here right now. As for Zeus and odin haha they are Satan. They are the fallen angels that fought against god. I don't expect any of you to understand this but all I can say is jesus is your one way of escaping. this dimensional he'll we live in. If you don't. believe you'll continuously reincarnating in this life and your soul will feel like it's burning for eternity. Someday you'll have to make a choice. The guy who made this post is on to something and when the right day comes we will all end up in concentration camps and you'll have to make the choice between the rfid chip and the mark of the beas
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A "booger-monster" belief, not even fit for a smart kid!
Grow up spiritually man!!

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* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
* The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
* Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
* There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
* All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
* Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
* The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
* The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
* Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
* The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
* He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
* Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)
* He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
* He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)





if you take the time to look at the links that i posted on page 1, you will have satisfactory answers to all of the above misunderstandings, if you are interested in truth, that is, and not parroting dogma...
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Jesus is no messiah he fulfilled not one of the messianic prophecies in the Torah Old Testament
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Whatever gives people peace and coping tools in their life is their business.

I look at it the same way as I do religions. Just don't try to cram it down peoples throats. There's enough of it around now that people know where to go to get it.
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I rebuke you in the name of the LIVING Christ Consciousness!!
Not a 'returning' Jesus, but the LIVING breathing Holy Spirit



rebuke all that you like if it helps your condition, but it does not add any intelligent element to the proceedings, now does it?
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You have arms, legs, head, science discovers that this body has electromagnetic field, then they will discover that they have chakras etc... what it is to you? i don't understand... it is written "leave world alone" or "live in it but not be of it", "be witness unto this world".

On the other hand we are so ignorant that we limit God to some religion... that is our real problem. CONCEPTS CONCEPTS CONCEPTS EVERYWHERE.
STOP READING ANYTHING. Either you know or you don't, just admit it to yourself once and for all that you DON'T KNOW A THING. You don't even know what is GOOD and what is BAD from the perspective of God.

Oh... i tell you it is not so easy to be Humble.
In all debates, doesn't matter christian or not mostly devil is working...

It is written "kingdom of heaven is within you", "ye are Gods", "i am that i am", and you think that devil is somewhere sitting and doing "stuff" ? WAKE UP.
The King of Lies deceived humans to think that he is some external power sitting somewhere... while he was always with us for thousands of years hiding in our shadows... in our greed, in our instinctive mind, in our doubts, in our unfaithfulness, in our ignorance, in our hate.... anything but Love, ANYTHING but LOVE.

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* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
* The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
* Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
* There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
* All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
* Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
* The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
* The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
* Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
* The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
* He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
* Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)
* He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
* He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)





if you take the time to look at the links that i posted on page 1, you will have satisfactory answers to all of the above misunderstandings, if you are interested in truth, that is, and not parroting dogma...
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Jesus is no messiah he fulfilled not one of the messianic prophecies in the Torah Old Testament
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Jesus fulfilled no prophecies
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I rebuke you in the name of the LIVING Christ Consciousness!!
Not a 'returning' Jesus, but the LIVING breathing Holy Spirit



rebuke all that you like if it helps your condition, but it does not add any intelligent element to the proceedings, now does it?
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There is nothing intelligent here! Ha ha ha~

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if you take the time to look at the links that i posted on page 1, you will have satisfactory answers to all of the above misunderstandings, if you are interested in truth, that is, and not parroting dogma...
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Jesus is no messiah he fulfilled not one of the messianic prophecies in the Torah Old Testament




i'm afraid that your lack of intelligence I.E. merely repeating what you said before without either adding to your evidence or looking at the evidence that i have provided for you on page 1 somewhat diminishes the efficacy of your stance, sorry...
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if you take the time to look at the links that i posted on page 1, you will have satisfactory answers to all of the above misunderstandings, if you are interested in truth, that is, and not parroting dogma...
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Jesus is no messiah he fulfilled not one of the messianic prophecies in the Torah Old Testament




i'm afraid that your lack of intelligence I.E. merely repeating what you said before without either adding to your evidence or looking at the evidence that i have provided for you on page 1 somewhat diminishes the efficacy of your stance, sorry...
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If you take the time to read all the prophecies that Jesus didn't fulfill that the real messiah is suppose to fulfill
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* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
* The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
* Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
* There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
* All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
* Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
* The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
* The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
* Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
* The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
* He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
* Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)
* He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
* He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)





if you take the time to look at the links that i posted on page 1, you will have satisfactory answers to all of the above misunderstandings, if you are interested in truth, that is, and not parroting dogma...
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Jesus is no messiah he fulfilled not one of the messianic prophecies in the Torah Old Testament
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Jesus fulfilled no prophecies
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Oh ok chakras aren't real nor reincarnation..
BUT
a girl had a baby without having sex? Impossible!
Jesus walked on water! Impossible!
Dead for 3 days and miraculously came back to life? Impossible..
The tooth fairy and Santa are more believable.
Tell me this op.. If the catholic church came out now and said a girl was pregnant with the messiah but it was impregnated by god would you believe it??
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The thing everyone here doesn't account for is the soul. Its the main component that gives life. Everything os made of atoms practically stating we are no different than dirt. Something though gives us life and hahahaha I highly doubt life began from some accident. There is those of you who question anything else exists outside of this world ans some have seen farther and understand aliens and pagan gods but some of us can see even farther than that. We can see what creates those pagan gods too. Thank god for jesus. Ain't much time left. Were in the age of aquarius now and jesus himself said he'll love us till the end of the age. Get ready cuz nazi america is coming...some of you can understand past this life of dimentipn and some of you who constantly deny it will still wonder whether it really is real or not. Some of us know some of is don't and some of us are trying to save ourselves while some of us wools rather damn ourselves for belied in only ourselves
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The thing everyone here doesn't account for is the soul. Its the main component that gives life. Everything os made of atoms practically stating we are no different than dirt. Something though gives us life and hahahaha I highly doubt life began from some accident. There is those of you who question anything else exists outside of this world ans some have seen farther and understand aliens and pagan gods but some of us can see even farther than that. We can see what creates those pagan gods too. Thank god for jesus. Ain't much time left. Were in the age of aquarius now and jesus himself said he'll love us till the end of the age. Get ready cuz nazi america is coming...some of you can understand past this life of dimentipn and some of you who constantly deny it will still wonder whether it really is real or not. Some of us know some of is don't and some of us are trying to save ourselves while some of us wools rather damn ourselves for belied in only ourselves
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if you take the time to look at the links that i posted on page 1, you will have satisfactory answers to all of the above misunderstandings, if you are interested in truth, that is, and not parroting dogma...
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Jesus is no messiah he fulfilled not one of the messianic prophecies in the Torah Old Testament




i'm afraid that your lack of intelligence I.E. merely repeating what you said before without either adding to your evidence or looking at the evidence that i have provided for you on page 1 somewhat diminishes the efficacy of your stance, sorry...
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wish you'd hit the quote button. it's hard to follow knowing which part was said by who.
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Jesus is no messiah he fulfilled not one of the messianic prophecies in the Torah Old Testament
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Jesus fulfilled no prophecies
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The is nothing intelligent here! Ha ha ha~


you refer to your inability to form a cohesive sentence? bravo!
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The is nothing intelligent here! Ha ha ha~


you refer to your inability to form a cohesive sentence? bravo!
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He says without using Caps :)
What's that... a sliver in your eye?

What a shining example of Christ's love you are! Thank you for showing us ALL in Spirit who/what rules your heart~

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Haha jesus meets all 109I prophecies needed to be the messiah are you kidding. Your all idiots im done
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For centuries before Jesus' time, there have been 23 prophecies that were said to pertain to the Davidic Messiah. Mark listed them. No others were ever recognized by Jews before, Christianity back-engineered most of the so-called 300.

As far as the Nazareth thing, it all comes down to a quote in Matthew 2:23
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.

The problem is that there was never any prophecy stating anything about Nazareth or a Nazarene. You can search in any version of any Old Testament and you cannot find those words - relating to the Moschiach or otherwise.

I have seen it referenced back to Isaiah 11:1
1 And there shall come forth a shoot out of the stock of Jesse, and a twig shall grow forth out of his roots.

but I have never understood how they got a Nazarene out of that.

The other interesting thing is that Nazareth didn't exist in any references, anywhere except the Bible, until about the 4th century CE.
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Haha jesus meets all 109I prophecies needed to be the messiah are you kidding. Your all idiots im done
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* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
* The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
* Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
* There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
* All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
* Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
* The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
* The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
* Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
* The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
* He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
* Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)
* He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
* He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 3


Not one of these prophecies he fulfillled


Before you say he is going to do it when he returns: THERE IS NO "SECOND COMING" CONCEPT IN THE JEWISH BIBLE: Missionaries respond with their "second coming" theory, which asserts that Jesus will accomplish everything when he comes "next time." There are two major problems with this Christian answer.

First, the second coming theory has no scriptural basis in the Jewish Bible. In fact, scripture states that when a person dies, "on that day his plans all perish." Therefore, according to scripture, when Jesus died, his plans ended.
Second, the second coming theory can apply to any person who has ever lived and therefore is totally meaningless. For example, one can claim that their Gentile grandmother was the messiah. When challenged that she didn't accomplish anything, one can say that when she "comes back" she will be born a Jewish man with the correct genealogy and will accomplish everything
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Re: chakras, kundalini, reincarnation---all lies
the Christian Bible is not the Jewish Tanach. A lot of the predictions were a combo of mistranslations, but changes to wording to support their theology. So, a lot of the convincing arguments go away, when you go back to the original Torah & prophets & writings (our Tanakh). (Such as Issiah 53.)
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12/27/2012 03:37 PM
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Re: chakras, kundalini, reincarnation---all lies
Oh ok chakras aren't real nor reincarnation..
BUT
a girl had a baby without having sex? Impossible!
Jesus walked on water! Impossible!
Dead for 3 days and miraculously came back to life? Impossible..
The tooth fairy and Santa are more believable.
Tell me this op.. If the catholic church came out now and said a girl was pregnant with the messiah but it was impregnated by god would you believe it??






as Guy Finley rightly stated---beliefs are for children...
...even a laboratory technician can impregnate a girl without the need for 'sex' as you put it!
with regards to walking on water, if you have lived such a sheltered life so as not to have become aware of many so called supernatural events such as spirits moving objects or even people walking on hot coals ETC then i'm not altogether sure that this debate is quite at your level of understanding...
...you do realize that Christ was resurrected by God don't you? you know, the supreme intelligence that made the omniverse and everything in it?
...with regards to the catholic church, i would not believe anything that issued from that place (not without a good deal of investigation first)...
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Re: chakras, kundalini, reincarnation---all lies
He says without using Caps :)
What's that... a sliver in your eye?

What a shining example of Christ's love you are! Thank you for showing us ALL in Spirit who/what rules your heart~


mm, scraping the barrel somewhat, alas---i referred to your lack of cohesion---which my posts have all contained (and without low-brow and meaningless quips such as yours)---naturally, i am using lower case simply to try to save time and keep up with the pace, nice try though!
as for the 'Christ's love' part, well, it doesn't really work now does it---especially when one compares my input with yours, mm?

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