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If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?

 
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If there is no oxygen in outerspace, how does the sun burn without oxygen?
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Because it is electric.
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Have you ever seen a movie, where a spaceship accidentally gets a fracture, a hole in the hull, and then all of a sudden the air from the inside, maybe along with screaming passengers and stuff, is "sucked" or ejected into the open space with a tremendous power. Well, not exactly sucked, it's because of the vacuum, but you know how it works.
Now, my question is: if all that vast space around the Earth is the empty vacuum, why the Earth's atmosphere does not get "sucked" off? You might say it's because of gravity, but gravity is not that powerful compared with the "force" of vacuum. E.g., you can easily jump up off the Earth, temporary overcoming the gravity at least for a few inches and then landing, but could you jump from the hole in the spaceship hull? Not a chance. Meanwhile, the air pressure and gravity force in the spaceship and on Earth is not very different, you can survive in both. So, where's the secret? What keeps the Earth's atmosphere from escaping from Earth?
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How do bullets fire under water?
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They dont... Ever seen that episode of Mythbusters..
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
Here you go Waterman. Like I said, it is electric.

In this day and age there is no longer any doubt that electrical effects in plasmas play an important role in the phenomena we observe on the Sun. The major properties of the "Electric Sun (ES) model" are as follows:

Most of the space within our galaxy is occupied by plasma (rarefied ionized gas) containing electrons (negative charges) and ionized atoms (positive charges). Every charged particle in the plasma has an electric potential energy (voltage) just as every pebble on a mountain has a mechanical potential energy with respect to sea level. The Sun is at the center of a plasma cell, called the heliosphere, that stretches far out - several times the radius of Pluto. As of 9/9/2012 the radius of this plasma cell has been measured to be greater than 18 billion km or 122 times the distance from the Sun to Earth. These are facts not hypotheses.

The Sun is at a more positive electrical potential (voltage) than is the space plasma surrounding it - probably in the order of several billion volts.

Positive ions leave the Sun and electrons enter the Sun. Both of these flows add to form a net positive current flowing through the Sun (entering at the poles and leaving radially at lower latitudes). This constitutes a plasma discharge analogous in every way (except size) to those that have been observed in electrical plasma laboratories for decades. Because of the Sun's positive charge (voltage), it acts as the anode in a plasma discharge. As such, it exhibits many of the phenomena observed in earthbound plasma laboratory experiments.

The Sun may be powered, not from within itself, but from outside, by the electric (Birkeland) currents that flow in our arm of our galaxy as they do in all galaxies. This possibility - that the Sun may be externally powered by its galactic environment - is the most speculative idea in the ES hypothesis and is always attacked by critics while they completely ignore all the other more obvious properties of the ES model. In the Plasma Universe model, cosmic sized, low-density currents create the galaxies and the stars within those galaxies by the electromagnetic z-pinch effect. It is only a small extrapolation to ask whether these currents remain in place to power those stars. Galactic currents are of low current density, but, because the sizes of the stars are large, the total current (Amperage) is high. An electrically powered Sun's radiated power would be due to the energy delivered by that amperage. As it travels around the galactic center the Sun may come into regions of higher or lower current density and so its output may vary both periodically and randomly.
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[link to electric-cosmos.org]
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[link to csep10.phys.utk.edu]

The proton proton chain, as someone else mentioned. I learned this stuff in high school astronomy class.
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
If there is no oxygen in outerspace, how does the sun burn without oxygen?
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The same reason astronauts don't fly to the sun unless they do it at night.
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Did God set a process in motion where the elements (atomic table) are built from the seed element of Hydrogen with a single proton in the nucleus? Hydrogen to Helium to Lithium to Beryllium up to the building blocks of life Carbon, Nitrogen and Oxygen where compounds form to support life? Or were the elements differentiated from the beginning? How do we account for the various deposits of such things as gold in the earth's crust, but the center is apparently of molten iron? How did such differentiation occur on the crust, but as you go deeper the indication is that fewer and fewer element variations occur? The transmutation of elements seems pretty obvious to me, and would support alchemy.
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
If there is no oxygen in outerspace, how does the sun burn without oxygen?
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The same reason astronauts don't fly to the sun unless they do it at night.
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now that's funny!
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
Have you ever seen a movie, where a spaceship accidentally gets a fracture, a hole in the hull, and then all of a sudden the air from the inside, maybe along with screaming passengers and stuff, is "sucked" or ejected into the open space with a tremendous power. Well, not exactly sucked, it's because of the vacuum, but you know how it works.
Now, my question is: if all that vast space around the Earth is the empty vacuum, why the Earth's atmosphere does not get "sucked" off? You might say it's because of gravity, but gravity is not that powerful compared with the "force" of vacuum. E.g., you can easily jump up off the Earth, temporary overcoming the gravity at least for a few inches and then landing, but could you jump from the hole in the spaceship hull? Not a chance. Meanwhile, the air pressure and gravity force in the spaceship and on Earth is not very different, you can survive in both. So, where's the secret? What keeps the Earth's atmosphere from escaping from Earth?
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How did the lunar missions support combustion that required Oxygen? Better yet, if the law of Physics require that for every action there must be an opposite and equal reaction, how did the Apollo missions propel through space with nothing to thrust off of? Either there is a yet undefined fabric in space or the whole proposition was a fraud because it would be similar to a ship sitting in the doldrums with no wind in its sails.
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
Did I ever tell you a story about a ball, let loose from the atmosphere of the a planet. How it bounced straight UP, breached the Phenon, and landed on the moon. I kept telling this soul, you need to stop in the middle, slow your roll, there is an inbetween. This ball took off and Stuck dead center, picture perfect moon crater. He waves, once in awhile.
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
I knew somebody on here would know...thanks guys and gals
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Sad.
Public school education fail.

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How can spock be sad if he has no emotions?....but that is a whole different thread
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Spock is only half vulcan, besides vulcans DO have emotions, doesn't Surak and the time of the awakening mean anything to you.
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
I knew somebody on here would know...thanks guys and gals
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Sad.
Public school education fail.

spock
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How can spock be sad if he has no emotions?....but that is a whole different thread
 Quoting: waterman


Spock is only half vulcan, besides vulcans DO have emotions, doesn't Surak and the time of the awakening mean anything to you.
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:starfleetapprove:
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
I knew somebody on here would know...thanks guys and gals
 Quoting: waterman


Sad.
Public school education fail.

spock
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How can spock be sad if he has no emotions?....but that is a whole different thread
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Spock is only half vulcan, besides vulcans DO have emotions, doesn't Surak and the time of the awakening mean anything to you.
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lol...I guess I'm not as big a fan as you are..thanks for the update
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
How do bullets fire under water?
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They dont... Ever seen that episode of Mythbusters..
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The gun will fire under water because gunpowder stores oxygen in the charcoal...the bullet falls after just a few feet though.
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
The Sun creates its own reactions. It's basically a giant nuclear bomb going off over and over.
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
How do bullets fire under water?
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They dont... Ever seen that episode of Mythbusters..
 Quoting: Canadian_Bacon


The gun will fire under water because gunpowder stores oxygen in the charcoal...the bullet falls after just a few feet though.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I've heard of some glocks that can fire under water safely, didn't know all guns would fire under water
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
How do bullets fire under water?
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They dont... Ever seen that episode of Mythbusters..
 Quoting: Canadian_Bacon


The gun will fire under water because gunpowder stores oxygen in the charcoal...the bullet falls after just a few feet though.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I've heard of some glocks that can fire under water safely, didn't know all guns would fire under water
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most guns will 'fire' underwater, its really more about how well sealed the ammo is. Some won't strike the pin hard enough, because of the extra resistance. The problem is that the bullets have way to much friction in the water, and tend to fragment at or near the muzzle. Another problem is pushing the water out of the barrel sometimes causing over-pressure issues.

What you might be looking for is one of these.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Must be evolution.
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
Did I ever tell you a story about a ball, let loose from the atmosphere of the a planet. How it bounced straight UP, breached the Phenon, and landed on the moon. I kept telling this soul, you need to stop in the middle, slow your roll, there is an inbetween. This ball took off and Stuck dead center, picture perfect moon crater. He waves, once in awhile.
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Then how would it get back to homebase? I suppose the bounce between here and say Mars would be a doozy.
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How do bullets fire under water?
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They dont... Ever seen that episode of Mythbusters..
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The gun will fire under water because gunpowder stores oxygen in the charcoal...the bullet falls after just a few feet though.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I've heard of some glocks that can fire under water safely, didn't know all guns would fire under water
 Quoting: waterman


Probably not shotgun shells because they are often not tightly sealed and water could get in, but all other sealed ammo will fire in space or under water...
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They dont... Ever seen that episode of Mythbusters..
 Quoting: Canadian_Bacon


The gun will fire under water because gunpowder stores oxygen in the charcoal...the bullet falls after just a few feet though.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I've heard of some glocks that can fire under water safely, didn't know all guns would fire under water
 Quoting: waterman


Probably not shotgun shells because they are often not tightly sealed and water could get in, but all other sealed ammo will fire in space or under water...
 Quoting: BRIEF


do you have 333.33 dollars to back that up?..lol
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Here OP watch this video: [link to www.youtube.com]

The sun isn't nuclear and it's not fire.
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How do bullets fire under water?
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They dont... Ever seen that episode of Mythbusters..
 Quoting: Canadian_Bacon


The gun will fire under water because gunpowder stores oxygen in the charcoal...the bullet falls after just a few feet though.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Are you really a mod? Stay on track! The question, how does the sun burn without oxygen?

You are violent Brief ha.

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The gun will fire under water because gunpowder stores oxygen in the charcoal...the bullet falls after just a few feet though.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I've heard of some glocks that can fire under water safely, didn't know all guns would fire under water
 Quoting: waterman


Probably not shotgun shells because they are often not tightly sealed and water could get in, but all other sealed ammo will fire in space or under water...
 Quoting: BRIEF


do you have 333.33 dollars to back that up?..lol
 Quoting: waterman


Yup, sure do, but how about a video?





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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
Here OP watch this video:

The sun isn't nuclear and it's not fire.
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Have you ever seen a movie, where a spaceship accidentally gets a fracture, a hole in the hull, and then all of a sudden the air from the inside, maybe along with screaming passengers and stuff, is "sucked" or ejected into the open space with a tremendous power. Well, not exactly sucked, it's because of the vacuum, but you know how it works.
Now, my question is: if all that vast space around the Earth is the empty vacuum, why the Earth's atmosphere does not get "sucked" off? You might say it's because of gravity, but gravity is not that powerful compared with the "force" of vacuum. E.g., you can easily jump up off the Earth, temporary overcoming the gravity at least for a few inches and then landing, but could you jump from the hole in the spaceship hull? Not a chance. Meanwhile, the air pressure and gravity force in the spaceship and on Earth is not very different, you can survive in both. So, where's the secret? What keeps the Earth's atmosphere from escaping from Earth?
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Because it WANTS to be here.
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Here OP watch this video: [link to www.youtube.com]

The sun isn't nuclear and it's not fire.
 Quoting: Him Again 29591477


103 minutes don't you know i barely have 7 minutes of free time per day. That would take me 14.71428 days to watch that...lol...maybe I'll skip my nap and watch it...thanks
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
If there is no oxygen in outerspace, how does the sun burn without oxygen?
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If you can't tell by the responses people are clueless.

Good question; like the other questions "What powers the Sun?" or "Why is the center of the Earth so hot after billions and billions of years?" there is an answer. The Sun is drawing more energy than it needs to sustain it's physicality the "ignition" or what you see put out or expressed at it's surface is this extra energy in a different form. Same goes for the Earths volcanos spitting out the extra energy in the form of heat and molten rock. All matter draws from the field of energy we float in; us included. An "overdraw" is expressed as another form of energy than the invisible form it starts as.


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It is a good question, and many of the people who responded here were quick to facepalm and give the OP crap for not knowing the answer, but not one of them gave a decent answer. It seems that although they are quick to give the OP crap for asking the question, they don't actually know the answer themselves.
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Re: If there is no oxygen in space how does the sun burn without oxygen?
If there is no oxygen in outerspace, how does the sun burn without oxygen?
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If you can't tell by the responses people are clueless.

Good question; like the other questions "What powers the Sun?" or "Why is the center of the Earth so hot after billions and billions of years?" there is an answer. The Sun is drawing more energy than it needs to sustain it's physicality the "ignition" or what you see put out or expressed at it's surface is this extra energy in a different form. Same goes for the Earths volcanos spitting out the extra energy in the form of heat and molten rock. All matter draws from the field of energy we float in; us included. An "overdraw" is expressed as another form of energy than the invisible form it starts as.


banana2
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It is a good question, and many of the people who responded here were quick to facepalm and give the OP crap for not knowing the answer, but not one of them gave a decent answer. It seems that although they are quick to give the OP crap for asking the question, they don't actually know the answer themselves.
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s226

It is all right here.

Here you go Waterman. Like I said, it is electric.

In this day and age there is no longer any doubt that electrical effects in plasmas play an important role in the phenomena we observe on the Sun. The major properties of the "Electric Sun (ES) model" are as follows:

Most of the space within our galaxy is occupied by plasma (rarefied ionized gas) containing electrons (negative charges) and ionized atoms (positive charges). Every charged particle in the plasma has an electric potential energy (voltage) just as every pebble on a mountain has a mechanical potential energy with respect to sea level. The Sun is at the center of a plasma cell, called the heliosphere, that stretches far out - several times the radius of Pluto. As of 9/9/2012 the radius of this plasma cell has been measured to be greater than 18 billion km or 122 times the distance from the Sun to Earth. These are facts not hypotheses.

The Sun is at a more positive electrical potential (voltage) than is the space plasma surrounding it - probably in the order of several billion volts.

Positive ions leave the Sun and electrons enter the Sun. Both of these flows add to form a net positive current flowing through the Sun (entering at the poles and leaving radially at lower latitudes). This constitutes a plasma discharge analogous in every way (except size) to those that have been observed in electrical plasma laboratories for decades. Because of the Sun's positive charge (voltage), it acts as the anode in a plasma discharge. As such, it exhibits many of the phenomena observed in earthbound plasma laboratory experiments.

The Sun may be powered, not from within itself, but from outside, by the electric (Birkeland) currents that flow in our arm of our galaxy as they do in all galaxies. This possibility - that the Sun may be externally powered by its galactic environment - is the most speculative idea in the ES hypothesis and is always attacked by critics while they completely ignore all the other more obvious properties of the ES model. In the Plasma Universe model, cosmic sized, low-density currents create the galaxies and the stars within those galaxies by the electromagnetic z-pinch effect. It is only a small extrapolation to ask whether these currents remain in place to power those stars. Galactic currents are of low current density, but, because the sizes of the stars are large, the total current (Amperage) is high. An electrically powered Sun's radiated power would be due to the energy delivered by that amperage. As it travels around the galactic center the Sun may come into regions of higher or lower current density and so its output may vary both periodically and randomly.
 Quoting: Electric Sun

[link to electric-cosmos.org]
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If there is no oxygen in outerspace, how does the sun burn without oxygen?
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How does an incandescent light bulb work again?

There's your answer. Open a book maybe.