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No Cigars from Cuba....and now.....NO CHILDREN FROM RUSSIA! Putin Says He Will Sign Law Barring U.S. Adoptions

 
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MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday he will sign a controversial bill barring Americans from adopting Russian children, while the Kremlin's children's rights advocate recommended extending the ban to the rest of the world.

The bill is part of the country's increasingly confrontational stance with the West and has angered some Russians who argue it victimizes children to make a political point.

The law would block dozens of Russian children now in the process of being adopted by American families from leaving the country and cut off a major route out of often-dismal orphanages. The U.S. is the biggest destination for adopted Russian children — more than 60,000 of them have been taken in by Americans over the past two decades.

"I still don't see any reasons why I should not sign it," Putin said at a televised meeting. He went on to say that he "intends" to do so.

UNICEF estimates that there are about 740,000 children not in parental custody in Russia, while only 18,000 Russians are now waiting to adopt a child. Russian officials say they want to encourage more Russians to adopt Russian orphans.

Children's rights ombudsman Pavel Astakhov on Thursday petitioned the president to extend the ban to other countries.

"There is huge money and questionable people involved in the semi-legal schemes of exporting children," he tweeted.

Kremlin critics say Astakhov is trying to extend the ban only to get more publicity and win more favors with Putin. A graduate of the KGB law school and a celebrity lawyer, Astakhov was a pro-Putin activist before becoming children's rights ombudsman and is now seen as the Kremlin's voice on adoption issues.

"This is cynicism beyond limits," opposition leader Ilya Yashin tweeted. "The children rights ombudsman is depriving children of a future."

The bill is retaliation for an American law that calls for sanctions against Russian officials deemed to be human rights violators.
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no!


and now where the hell the american juices will harvest their organs before they use the children as sex toys?

zion will get verry angry....possibly this will trigger a war
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no!


and now where the hell the american juices will harvest their organs before they use the children as sex toys?

zion will get verry angry....possibly this will trigger a war
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30941606


no!


and now where the hell the american juices will harvest their organs before they use the children as sex toys?

zion will get verry angry....possibly this will trigger a war
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Possibly!!

damned
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Hey that's going to drive up the resale value on all those Russian kids I bought!
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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He's doing us a favor. We have enough foreign lunatics already.
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Hey that's going to drive up the resale value on all those Russian kids I bought!
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Money money moneyyyyyyy. (Singing))
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Hey that's going to drive up the resale value on all those Russian kids I bought!
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Money money moneyyyyyyy. (Singing))
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Yeah, it's going to be a bitch breaking their Cuban cigar habit though...
With freedom comes responsibility.

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I bet some parents who adopted Russian kids with fetal alcohol syndrome wish this would have come a good bit earlier. We should understand Cuba is not the only country eager to dump their unwanted on our Shores.
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Re: No Cigars from Cuba....and now.....NO CHILDREN FROM RUSSIA! Putin Says He Will Sign Law Barring U.S. Adoptions
RUSSIA AND CHINA HAVE BEEN PLANNING TO ATTACK USA

THEY ARE NOW TRYING TO HUMILIATE THE USA, AND TO GET SUPPORT TO GOTO WAR

LIKE RUSSIA CARES ABOUT CHILDREN, YEA RIGHT...

WW3 Predicted over 6 years ago, heated escalation between russia and usa

Thread: Interesting prediction, though scary considering the nuke test


* UNKNOWN TRIGGER - North Korea flash point or a preemptive attack on US

* Russia/China attack US homeland and interests – Asia and US at war.

* Russian Leaders instantly secure Middle East peace between all Arab states including Israel and the Palestinians in the form of a treaty of non aggression during their joint Russian/Chinese invasion of the US – This secures the Russian/Chinese interests in the Middle East, specifically oil, and prevents war from breaking out there. And three and a half years of peace comes to Israel.

* Russian Leaders rally world support in their war against the US “Police Regime”. The Europeans choose to follow and stand down during the US invasion to prevent Russian/Chinese aggression toward them. And the whole world follows.

* Israel becomes venerable as democracies fall, knowing how hated they are by their Arab neighbors now supported by the Russian/Chinese alliance. Forced to use a preemptive nuclear deterrent to prevent invasion, Israel uses nuclear weapons to take out Iran’s nuclear sites.

* Russia and China respond to Israel’s first strike by carpet bombing Israel with over 30 nuclear bombs, completely destroying every inch of the country in a disaster unlike anything ever see on earth. Russian Leaders will take power over the world by destroying the Holy Land; announcing that they are God in this world. And the world now knows the Antichrist.

* The war will not end, but the Russia alliance will declare an end to the current global economy and political system lead by US democracy, the Russian alliance will force a “global regime change” by imposing a New World Order; a new form of identification, currency and social structure.

* The New World Order utilizes implants in countries aligned with Russia/China. Many will follow. The wealthy will receive an implant in the right hand; each implant contains currency used for purchases and information about an individual’s background and medical history. Invaded and unwilling countries, including Americans, will be forced to use retinal scanners as identification; retinal scanners are the equivalent to the tattoos used in Nazi concentration camps.

* The Chinese planned from the beginning, to use Russia to get control. In the end, China will turn on Russia and try to become rulers over all.
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Putin as Willy Wonka:

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RUSSIA AND CHINA HAVE BEEN PLANNING TO ATTACK USA
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3085194


hmmm perhaps

is this why US is everywhere involved military? Now been dragging into the possible conflict with China in south Chinese sea, for few small rocks in the middle of nowhere.

hmmm drevil
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Russians have a repopulation problem, just like the rest of Europe. Unlike the west, they do not fix the problem with unregulated imports.
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RUSSIA AND CHINA HAVE BEEN PLANNING TO ATTACK USA
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3085194


hmmm perhaps

is this why US is everywhere involved military? Now been dragging into the possible conflict with China in south Chinese sea, for few small rocks in the middle of nowhere.

hmmm drevil
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The elites need to destroy the USA regime to usher in the new world order

Why do you think they are rushing trying to disarm the citizens in america through gun control?

Russia secretly arms the enemies of the USA in the hopes of instigating another war

The US is everywhere, and Putin and China are going to use this against them. By creating wars they will get destroyed within, economically and social unrest, and their military will be crippled

Once the USA deteriorates, Russia and China will step in to deliver the final blow.

Then the NWO regime will begin, by China, which they will enforce the mark of the beast under a new monetary system and they will persecute and cut of all the heads of the christians that dont take the mark.

Read this thread half way down the first page for detailed prediction


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[link to www.nytimes.com]


MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday he will sign a controversial bill barring Americans from adopting Russian children, while the Kremlin's children's rights advocate recommended extending the ban to the rest of the world.

The bill is part of the country's increasingly confrontational stance with the West and has angered some Russians who argue it victimizes children to make a political point.

The law would block dozens of Russian children now in the process of being adopted by American families from leaving the country and cut off a major route out of often-dismal orphanages. The U.S. is the biggest destination for adopted Russian children — more than 60,000 of them have been taken in by Americans over the past two decades.

"I still don't see any reasons why I should not sign it," Putin said at a televised meeting. He went on to say that he "intends" to do so.

UNICEF estimates that there are about 740,000 children not in parental custody in Russia, while only 18,000 Russians are now waiting to adopt a child. Russian officials say they want to encourage more Russians to adopt Russian orphans.

Children's rights ombudsman Pavel Astakhov on Thursday petitioned the president to extend the ban to other countries.

"There is huge money and questionable people involved in the semi-legal schemes of exporting children," he tweeted.

Kremlin critics say Astakhov is trying to extend the ban only to get more publicity and win more favors with Putin. A graduate of the KGB law school and a celebrity lawyer, Astakhov was a pro-Putin activist before becoming children's rights ombudsman and is now seen as the Kremlin's voice on adoption issues.

"This is cynicism beyond limits," opposition leader Ilya Yashin tweeted. "The children rights ombudsman is depriving children of a future."

The bill is retaliation for an American law that calls for sanctions against Russian officials deemed to be human rights violators.
 Quoting: Jervis and V-Honey


Good. It is stupid for Americans to adopt children from other countries. I think most of them do it because they believe it somehow makes them great and noble people. BLEH!

There are plenty of orphaned American children and it's almost traitorous for these people to go to other countries and bring their kids back here - especially from frigging third world countries, places that scum like Madonna and Angelina Jolie can't stay away from - imo, they can go there and stay the hell out of America.
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I'll call the truth! Keep your damaged Russian kids! I know 3 ppl who have adopted from Russia and their lives are a living Hell. It's called Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and it is permanent brain damage!
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I do not blame him on the adoption issue. Most Russian kids that need adopting are so badly damaged that US parents cannot cope with them and sometimes abandon them or send them back.
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blackcat This is what started it all...

Judge upholds $150,000 child care bills Tennessee woman ordered to pay after she sent adopted boy BACK to Russia

Torry Hansen adopted Artem in 2009 but sent him back to Russia in 2010
She claimed money would not benefit boy but 'be lost in bureaucracy' and said today that Artem was violent and tried to set their house on fire
By Louise Boyle

The Tennessee woman who ended her Russian adoption by sending the 7-year-old boy to Moscow on a plane by himself has lost her bid to get a judge to set aside an order that she pay child support.

Torry Hansen made her first court appearance today in a case that began in April 2010 when sent little Artyom Saveliev away from her home Shelbyville with a letter that said he had violent behaviour problems and she no longer wanted to be his mother.

‘He was very violent,’ she explained to the court. ‘He tried to kill me, he tried to start a fire,’ the former mother said.

Sent back: Artyom Savelyev, a 9-year-old Russian boy, was sent back to his native country by his adoptive U.S. mother and is now in a foster home in Tomilino, outside Moscow

Proceedings: Torry Hansen, right, sits with her attorney Ed Yarbrough today in Lewisburg, Tennessee; Hansen has lost her bid to get a judge to set aside an order that she pay child support

Hand-picked: Tennessee nurse Torry Hansen took a trip to Russia in 2009 and met Artem in an orphanage. Their meeting is pictured here; only a year later, she put him alone on a plane, sending him back

Criminal charges were never filed but the World Association for Children and Parents adoption agency sued Hansen for child support.

Circuit Court Judge Lee Russell decided Friday to uphold the $150,000 in child support he ordered from Hansen, but Hansen can now choose to appeal his decision.

The boy now lives in a Russian group home.

The Tennessee woman who ended her Russian adoption by sending the 7-year-old boy to Moscow on a plane by himself has lost her bid to get a judge to set aside an order that she pay child support.

More...
American woman who sent adopted son, 7, BACK to Russia alone wants to stop paying court-ordered $150,000 child support

Torry Hansen made her first court appearance today in a case that began in April 2010 when sent little Artyom Saveliev away from her home Shelbyville with a letter that said he had violent behaviour problems and she no longer wanted to be his mother.

Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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From link^

Judge upholds $150,000 child care bills Tennessee woman ordered to pay after she sent adopted boy BACK to Russia

Torry Hansen adopted Artem in 2009 but sent him back to Russia in 2010
She claimed money would not benefit boy but 'be lost in bureaucracy' and said today that Artem was violent and tried to set their house on fire.

The Tennessee woman who ended her Russian adoption by sending the 7-year-old boy to Moscow on a plane by himself has lost her bid to get a judge to set aside an order that she pay child support.
Torry Hansen made her first court appearance today in a case that began in April 2010 when sent little Artyom Saveliev away from her home Shelbyville with a letter that said he had violent behaviour problems and she no longer wanted to be his mother.
‘He was very violent,’ she explained to the court. ‘He tried to kill me, he tried to start a fire,’ the former mother said.




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What's the world coming to when Russians can't adopt a fat kid?

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I think this is a good thing for the US. The Russian children I have met seem to be quite damaged by the time they spent in Russian orphanages. Even years later they still have not gotten assimilated into their adoptive families.
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Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
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 Quoting: Judethz


From link^

Judge upholds $150,000 child care bills Tennessee woman ordered to pay after she sent adopted boy BACK to Russia

Torry Hansen adopted Artem in 2009 but sent him back to Russia in 2010
She claimed money would not benefit boy but 'be lost in bureaucracy' and said today that Artem was violent and tried to set their house on fire.

The Tennessee woman who ended her Russian adoption by sending the 7-year-old boy to Moscow on a plane by himself has lost her bid to get a judge to set aside an order that she pay child support.
Torry Hansen made her first court appearance today in a case that began in April 2010 when sent little Artyom Saveliev away from her home Shelbyville with a letter that said he had violent behaviour problems and she no longer wanted to be his mother.
‘He was very violent,’ she explained to the court. ‘He tried to kill me, he tried to start a fire,’ the former mother said.




sad
 Quoting: Jervis and V-Honey


What an absolute fucking bitch. It's not the kids fault! How about getting him some medical fucking care. Returning the kid like damaged goods she bought at a shop. Good on Putin.
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their forming a modern day axis of evil.
north korea, iran, and russia soon to come.
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the devil has deceived you well!
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Np
rich anti-America amerikans like to buy the african and asian types anyway.
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*GOOD*
we Ought to be ADOPTING AMERICAN BABIES
NOT BUYING FOREIGN ONES ..................
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Americans should adopt American children
in American Orphanages.
"Adopting" foreign children is no differnt
than human traficing.
Selling and buying children.
Americans who do it are scum and should be
imprisoned for human trafficing.
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I think this is a good thing for the US. The Russian children I have met seem to be quite damaged by the time they spent in Russian orphanages. Even years later they still have not gotten assimilated into their adoptive families.
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I'm with you on that. I know three bright, caring couples who adopted Russian children. The children in every case were gorgeous, intelligent psychopaths.
Aside from the small band of Forteans scattered around the world, nobody seems to notice all aspects of this phantasmagoria.(John A. Keel)
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Maybe Putin has already rid Russia of gypsy children.


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A simple solution to this problem is for those who were planning to adopt children from Russia instead adopt children from Zimbabwe or the Phillipines.
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So what. It's not like millions of other children from all the other countries don't need good homes. So people have 1 less country to choose from. Big deal.
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So what. It's not like millions of other children from all the other countries don't need good homes. So people have 1 less country to choose from. Big deal.
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Russia is/was a good source for white babies and children.

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