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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6400168  United States12/27/2012 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
shred User ID: 26811219 United States12/27/2012 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you know Obama is going to try and push for gun control and come close to passing a law... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30994148 then someone will very likely kill him before the passing of the legislation and make it happen for sure then you have your Mabus... then you have the horrible undoing of men ( civil war ) and all in the year that the comet shall run (ISOP) better get your preps ready because these events are almost already baked in the cake... guaranteed OB will introduce legislation guaranteed some-one will try to snipe him ( try is more like 95% going to succeed because of the kind of people that are going to go after him ) Nostradamus told us the rest.. For the sake of the continent we share lets hope you're wrong. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30994148  Canada12/27/2012 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you know Obama is going to try and push for gun control and come close to passing a law... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30994148 then someone will very likely kill him before the passing of the legislation and make it happen for sure then you have your Mabus... then you have the horrible undoing of men ( civil war ) and all in the year that the comet shall run (ISOP) better get your preps ready because these events are almost already baked in the cake... guaranteed OB will introduce legislation guaranteed some-one will try to snipe him ( try is more like 95% going to succeed because of the kind of people that are going to go after him ) Nostradamus told us the rest.. Dude, seriously? They trot out the same old tired Nostradamus bullshit every few years. Give it up already. I will..trying to convince you guys...I probably have followed it quite a bit more closely than you or the other idiots that trot the quotes out all the time but I will quit my point...just for you |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6400168 United States12/27/2012 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All will comply with any firearms rules that are enacted, including myself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326993 I will follow any laws in this matter. You would all be wise to do the same. It's not a law it's a legal act. By all means.. everyone read this, understand it and pass it around: Unconstitutional Official Acts 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256: The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be In agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows: The General rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it's enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted. Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it..... A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the lend, it is superseded thereby. No one Is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it. Strictly speaking, an unconstitutional statute is not a "law", and should not be called a "law", even if it is sustained by a court, for a finding that a statute or other official act is constitutional does not make it so, or confer any authority to anyone to enforce it. All citizens and legal residents of the United States, by their presence on the territory of the United States, are subject to the militia duty, the duty of the social compact that creates the society, which requires that each, alone and in concert with others, not only obey the Constitution and constitutional official acts, but help enforce them, if necessary, at the risk of one's life. Any unconstitutional act of an official will at least be a violation of the oath of that official to execute the duties of his office, and therefore grounds for his removal from office. No official immunity or privileges of rank or position survive the commission of unlawful acts. If it violates the rights of individuals, it is also likely to be a crime, and the militia duty obligates anyone aware of such a violation to investigate it, gather evidence for a prosecution, make an arrest, and if necessary, seek an indictment from a grand jury, and if one is obtained, prosecute the offender in a court of law. |
| Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States12/27/2012 11:17 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you know Obama is going to try and push for gun control and come close to passing a law... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30994148 then someone will very likely kill him before the passing of the legislation and make it happen for sure then you have your Mabus... then you have the horrible undoing of men ( civil war ) and all in the year that the comet shall run (ISOP) better get your preps ready because these events are almost already baked in the cake... guaranteed OB will introduce legislation guaranteed some-one will try to snipe him ( try is more like 95% going to succeed because of the kind of people that are going to go after him ) Nostradamus told us the rest.. For the sake of the continent we share lets hope you're wrong. ^^^^ This. Last thing we need in the USA is for some azzhole or JFK-like setup to turn this Muslim traitor into a martyr.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6400168 United States12/27/2012 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All will comply with any firearms rules that are enacted, including myself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326993 I will follow any laws in this matter. You would all be wise to do the same. It's not a law it's a legal act. Unconstitutional Official Acts 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256: The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be In agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows: The General rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it's enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted. Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it..... A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the lend, it is superseded thereby. No one Is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it. Strictly speaking, an unconstitutional statute is not a "law", and should not be called a "law", even if it is sustained by a court, for a finding that a statute or other official act is constitutional does not make it so, or confer any authority to anyone to enforce it. All citizens and legal residents of the United States, by their presence on the territory of the United States, are subject to the militia duty, the duty of the social compact that creates the society, which requires that each, alone and in concert with others, not only obey the Constitution and constitutional official acts, but help enforce them, if necessary, at the risk of one's life. Any unconstitutional act of an official will at least be a violation of the oath of that official to execute the duties of his office, and therefore grounds for his removal from office. No official immunity or privileges of rank or position survive the commission of unlawful acts. If it violates the rights of individuals, it is also likely to be a crime, and the militia duty obligates anyone aware of such a violation to investigate it, gather evidence for a prosecution, make an arrest, and if necessary, seek an indictment from a grand jury, and if one is obtained, prosecute the offender in a court of law. |
| shred User ID: 26811219 United States12/27/2012 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you know Obama is going to try and push for gun control and come close to passing a law... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30994148 then someone will very likely kill him before the passing of the legislation and make it happen for sure then you have your Mabus... then you have the horrible undoing of men ( civil war ) and all in the year that the comet shall run (ISOP) better get your preps ready because these events are almost already baked in the cake... guaranteed OB will introduce legislation guaranteed some-one will try to snipe him ( try is more like 95% going to succeed because of the kind of people that are going to go after him ) Nostradamus told us the rest.. Dude, seriously? They trot out the same old tired Nostradamus bullshit every few years. Give it up already. I will..trying to convince you guys...I probably have followed it quite a bit more closely than you or the other idiots that trot the quotes out all the time but I will quit my point...just for you i think you are are on to somthing. pay no heed to the whiners around here. do go on... |
| KillerKoodaaa User ID: 30481468 Canada12/27/2012 11:18 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bend Over And Lube Up Americans! Oh! Wait a minute..What was that? I think I heard somone say 'they have already put a ban on lube'. Sorry folks.. No lube, Just grab the ankles, close your eyes and take it like the American Idol Punks we have allowed ourselved to become. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24056251  baffle m with briliance,or startle m with stupidity. everbody outta the pool. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30983337 United States12/27/2012 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, just ignore 'em. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139 They're paid posters or gutless spineless cowards, taking solace in one another's cyber company. Oh of course, you people with aggressive, gun-loving mindsets could never consider the fact that people who favor gun control are actually sensible, common sense intellects - because in your convoluted way of "thinking", they are either "shills" (a word with no meaning now because it's been overused) or cowards because they don't want to shoot and kill people. I bet you would have been alot of help back when those "aggressive gun loving mindset" people were fighting for America's freedom. Oh get real . . . no one has fought for America's "freedom" since . . . WHEN??!! |
| Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States12/27/2012 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bend Over And Lube Up Americans! Oh! Wait a minute..What was that? I think I heard somone say 'they have already put a ban on lube'. Sorry folks.. No lube, Just grab the ankles, close your eyes and take it like the American Idol Punks we have allowed ourselved to become. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24056251 Only an idiot would clap for that. Oh thats right...you are Canadian. Sorry. My bad. . Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 12/27/2012 11:21 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30983337 United States12/27/2012 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of paid posers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139 They're trying to create the impression that the majority of Americans will cower in their homes. I say NO and I call bullshit. Ignore them. The Man is worried if he's got his dogs on this thread, and it looks like he does. It's a weak, weak argument by you gun lovers that the opposition are all "shills" from the government. What WOULD you do without that now trite word? As has already been stated previously by another poster, if push came to shove, most of you tough guys with your guns would shake in your boots and drop your weapons when faced with threats by a government militia - and those who wouldn't are just looking for any reason to the pull the trigger. those would be the nutsoid guntards. yup. I bet your jock strap consists of a peanut shell and a rubberband. God...talk about not having a sac. Why don't you leave the discussion to the adults Bullwinkle Such tough guys, aren't you? I'd be willing to bet that 99% of you gun fanatics are males with HUGE egos . . . and very little everything else. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6400168 United States12/27/2012 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1524722 Then what the fuck are you running a British flag for? If they're looking for people with histories of mental illness, you're really going to be fucked, you stupid fucking limey royalist corporatist gun grabbing bastard. Umm... British flag constitutes Scotland, Wales and N Ireland and England. I know the yank geography has never been a strong point, though, So all is forgiven. Whether you like it or not this removal of your guns has been in the spotlight for quite some time. And it is going to happen. FACT  This from the person who, remember, cannot be trusted with a fucking steak knife.  Steak knife? i dont need a gun or a knife as i dont live in a shithole of a place where i need to protect my family. You mean you are too much of a poofty pussy to protect your own family . FACT. |
| 535 User ID: 1326993 United States12/27/2012 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All will comply with any firearms rules that are enacted, including myself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326993 I will follow any laws in this matter. You would all be wise to do the same. It's not a law it's a legal act. Unconstitutional Official Acts 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256: The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be In agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows: The General rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it's enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted. Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it..... A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the lend, it is superseded thereby. No one Is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it. Strictly speaking, an unconstitutional statute is not a "law", and should not be called a "law", even if it is sustained by a court, for a finding that a statute or other official act is constitutional does not make it so, or confer any authority to anyone to enforce it. All citizens and legal residents of the United States, by their presence on the territory of the United States, are subject to the militia duty, the duty of the social compact that creates the society, which requires that each, alone and in concert with others, not only obey the Constitution and constitutional official acts, but help enforce them, if necessary, at the risk of one's life. Any unconstitutional act of an official will at least be a violation of the oath of that official to execute the duties of his office, and therefore grounds for his removal from office. No official immunity or privileges of rank or position survive the commission of unlawful acts. If it violates the rights of individuals, it is also likely to be a crime, and the militia duty obligates anyone aware of such a violation to investigate it, gather evidence for a prosecution, make an arrest, and if necessary, seek an indictment from a grand jury, and if one is obtained, prosecute the offender in a court of law. You are a weak and pathetic fool, living behind words and the promise of a brave new world. The law is subject to interpretation. You assume that it will always be interpreted in the manner in which you seek. It will not. An excellent example of this would be the interpretation of eugenics laws disguised as "women's rights". It is rather obvious that "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness..." cannot take place once dead. Yet, it persists. So it shall be with this. It will not be as bad as all of you here believe, but it is an important first step to secure the safety of humanity. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30983337 United States12/27/2012 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30930407 United States12/27/2012 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Banning guns will not solve the problem ban bullets instead or at least increase the price 10 1000 dollars a bullet that will teach people the price of life Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30986827 I know you lazy island people aren't the most industrious, but have you ever heard of underground manufacturing??? What would stop black market production? |
| Seelenheikunde User ID: 30968654 12/27/2012 11:26 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you know Obama is going to try and push for gun control and come close to passing a law... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30994148 then someone will very likely kill him before the passing of the legislation and make it happen for sure then you have your Mabus... then you have the horrible undoing of men ( civil war ) and all in the year that the comet shall run (ISOP) better get your preps ready because these events are almost already baked in the cake... guaranteed OB will introduce legislation guaranteed some-one will try to snipe him ( try is more like 95% going to succeed because of the kind of people that are going to go after him ) Nostradamus told us the rest.. I am absolutely sure that your government will not confiscate your guns under one condition: to accept the mark of the beast, to agree to be microchipped willingly. I'm curious what would you choose? The main goal is not confiscating weapons but your soul , therefore they will find methods of coercion to accept the mark of the beast .  |
| Drunkenkungfu User ID: 29692206  Australia12/27/2012 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30983337 United States12/27/2012 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can I point out that it would ban magazines containing more than ten rounds for handguns, not handguns themselves. Can I also add that there's never been a war in American history to keep hold of handguns? I fail to see anything in this proposed bill - if this is an accurate account of it - that couldn't be described as being sane. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30986827 You cannot convince these maniacs of anything . . . they have no ability or desire to reasonably think things through. They just want to grab their guns and act tough. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6400168 United States12/27/2012 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please start this ban already, we just need a reason, when you come to take our guns, we will be there to take back our country. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30721611 The conflict that is going to arise because of this gun ban, is for the best. Every generation needs a revolution, and this is ours, its finally that time to fight back and get back every freedom you have lost since 1776. Americans will be free from foreign involvement/investment in American affairs, Americans will NOT pay the debt of the Federal Reserve & US Government, America will pull out of all Nations that it exists in, America will nationalize its industries and regain its status as the most powerful nation in the world. The time is here my friends, I hope you are ready to fight for the future of the United States of America. ps. I'm Canadian. PPS: Move to the States, please. We need more Canadians like you. I will as soon as the War begins, and I'll be bringing plenty of high capacity magazines & assault rifles. Thanks! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30983337 United States12/27/2012 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| TheCartel User ID: 29735768 United States12/27/2012 11:28 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30983337 United States12/27/2012 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The People are not nearly as stupid or poorly-versed in history as the government assumes. Interestingly, the same ethnic group always is at the forefront of pushing for the disarming of the populace. Why is that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27692823 I ask the same question myself. It mainly falls on deaf ears. You're not alone in your thinking though, I'll tell you that. Wrong. The majority of people in America are inherently stupid, in every possible way. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1513486 United States12/27/2012 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6400168 United States12/27/2012 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we petition the obama administration to: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24782026 Impeach Sen. Diane Feinstein for violating her oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, re: AWB Sen. Diane Feinstein has announced that she will be introducing new gun legislation in Jan 2013. The proposals of this legislation are in direct contradiction to both the spirit and letter of the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights. Her blatant disregard for the rights of citizens, and willingness to make criminals of a large number of law abiding gun owners, needs to be addressed. [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Just for the hell of it. She is defending the 2nd amendment, A well REGULATED militia. You do know what regulated is? It dont mean every crackhead is allowed to own a gun Well reggulated means "well trained and efficient". ENGLISH fail, you fucking dumbass. Go flog yourself wanker. |
| deadpammy User ID: 30701029 United States12/27/2012 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't change the Bill of Rights no matter how many ppl scream. Let them try, all you have to do is say no. What are they going to do, send the TSA after us? Screw em. It's only life, suck it up and stop crying. We came to wreck everything and ruin your life, God sent us... -Romper Stomper 1992- The reason the Jewish people are rich, is because they work hard and are smart, the reason you are a loser, is because you are lazy and stupid. - Mike Savage |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30983337 United States12/27/2012 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All will comply with any firearms rules that are enacted, including myself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326993 I will follow any laws in this matter. You would all be wise to do the same. It's not a law it's a legal act. By all means.. everyone read this, understand it and pass it around: Unconstitutional Official Acts 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256: The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be In agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows: The General rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it's enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted. Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it..... A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the lend, it is superseded thereby. No one Is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it. Strictly speaking, an unconstitutional statute is not a "law", and should not be called a "law", even if it is sustained by a court, for a finding that a statute or other official act is constitutional does not make it so, or confer any authority to anyone to enforce it. All citizens and legal residents of the United States, by their presence on the territory of the United States, are subject to the militia duty, the duty of the social compact that creates the society, which requires that each, alone and in concert with others, not only obey the Constitution and constitutional official acts, but help enforce them, if necessary, at the risk of one's life. Any unconstitutional act of an official will at least be a violation of the oath of that official to execute the duties of his office, and therefore grounds for his removal from office. No official immunity or privileges of rank or position survive the commission of unlawful acts. If it violates the rights of individuals, it is also likely to be a crime, and the militia duty obligates anyone aware of such a violation to investigate it, gather evidence for a prosecution, make an arrest, and if necessary, seek an indictment from a grand jury, and if one is obtained, prosecute the offender in a court of law. So you are basically inciting people who are already on the edge, just waiting and wanting an excuse . . . VERY disturbing what's happening in this country. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30983337 United States12/27/2012 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 United States12/27/2012 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "There are only 2 things we should fight for. The defense of our homes and the the Bill of Rights." ~ Marine General Smedley Butler Quoting: TheCartel Constitutional leaners are so trite and unoriginal non-thinkers. Um, yeah, so... you might want to read up on Smedley Butler there, chief.  |
| guncontrolltard2 User ID: 30653248 United States12/27/2012 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30983337 It's a weak, weak argument by you gun lovers that the opposition are all "shills" from the government. What WOULD you do without that now trite word? As has already been stated previously by another poster, if push came to shove, most of you tough guys with your guns would shake in your boots and drop your weapons when faced with threats by a government militia - and those who wouldn't are just looking for any reason to the pull the trigger. those would be the nutsoid guntards. yup. I bet your jock strap consists of a peanut shell and a rubberband. God...talk about not having a sac. Why don't you leave the discussion to the adults Bullwinkle Such tough guys, aren't you? I'd be willing to bet that 99% of you gun fanatics are males with HUGE egos . . . and very little everything else. right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12108080 United States12/27/2012 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prepare for civil war ? ha ha thats laughable. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466889 You lazy pricks will roll over belly up once the government wants your guns. It's ok though cause I will obey also... We don't have a choice. I have a family to feed and don't want to be imprisoned. Neither do you... It's over folks.The USA is no more. Keep your family as comfortable as possible while you can "Those who would sacrifice their freedom for security deserve neither..." -Benjamin Franklin |
