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I'm not voicing an opinion but am pointing out something that I covered myself in November after the election because I was expecting it to start fairly quickly. So I wasn't surprised when on NOV. 8, 2012 the news came out that the UN weapons deal was back on.

In two separate threads right now on GLP people are wondering where the "list" of Feinstein's proposed (and probably will be passed on 12-31-12 @ 11:59 PM....wanna bet? Dead of night the way they like to do it) banned guns are.

Holder and Obama came up with the list - that everyone at the time figured would be an executive order until the handy Newtown incident happened.

Remember the shooting incident happened December 16, 2012.

We have to go back to 2011 and revisit a critical incident after Obama was elected the first time in his conversation with Sarah Brady.

On the 30th anniversary of the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, Jim Brady and his wife, Sarah, came to Capitol Hill to push for a ban on the controversial "large magazines." Brady met with White House press secretary Jay Carney. During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, "to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda," she said.

"I just want you to know that we are working on it," Brady recalled the president telling them. "We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."


[link to www.greeleygazette.com]


Lots of people don't remember this. But I do, it's my job to remember this kind of stuff. So it sits in the back of my mind and EVERY single gun story is run through that filter.

After the 2012 election, the second red flag went up in a big hurry.

On NOV 29, 2012, this story was "leaked"....

Disastrous 2008 Proposed Gun Ban List Is Being Floated Again... (Final List Will Be Worse)

November 29, 2012

Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly.

I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals.

Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment.

So there you have on NOVEMBER 28 the leak of the list. I'm not saying that this was a false flag, I'm not saying that any human being currently living among us had a hand in the planning of this sick, twisted event.


Thread: BREAKING! Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out!!

[link to www.hipointfirearmsforums.com]

And then on DEC 14, 2012 we have the twisted sick demented shooting in Newtown. Then of course today's Feinstein bill.

[link to www.feinstein.senate.gov]

The shills, of course, will say it's all a massive coincidence. Yeah, right.

However, the timing seems very..... suspicious.
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I'm bumping the shit out of this because it's important.

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What I'm saying is that all the Sandy Hook stories about the oddities surrounding it, the false flag theories could actually be correct.

I'll leave that for the GLP community to decide.
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make no mistake a Revelutionary war is coming fast
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well they have been waiting for eight years to try and get another ban going in the US. just needed the right motivation and spark to get it done. It is pretty much the same as the last AWB just more definative in the definitions of what is going to be banned.

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make no mistake a Revelutionary war is coming fast
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November 8, 2012 UN gun treaty back on.

November 20, 2012 120 gun list leaked, floated, whatever.

December 16, 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting.

December 27, 2012 Feinstein releases proposal with....120 gun list.

Do the math.
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So, does this make sense to anyone else?
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I'm bumping the shit out of this because it's important.

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Of course

the legislation was written long ago, been waiting for the problem> reaction > solution scenario

they even said this was their goal, and analysts predicted an assault weapons ban would be a priority after Obama was elected

one friend who works in the beltway had even (correctly) predicted it would happen within a month of the election, before the new year

no different than the Patriot Act which was written long before 9/11

and if you notice, the Newtown tragedy has been pushed in the media in very much the same way

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I think so to But something big is going to happen read this
idk if b.s or not but it explains alot
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I'm bumping the shit out of this because it's important.

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Of course

the legislation was written long ago, been waiting for the problem> reaction > solution scenario

they even said this was their goal, and analysts predicted an assault weapons ban would be a priority after Obama was elected

one friend who works in the beltway had even (correctly) predicted it would happen within a month of the election, before the new year

no different than the Patriot Act which was written long before 9/11

and if you notice, the Newtown tragedy has been pushed in the media in very much the same way

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And as I stated in my OP, I would add this:

The fiscal cliff could be a red herring. They are all coming back "just in case" a deal is made on the cliff. We know they pass laws in the dead of night, on Friday afternoons. Even though this is a big, big deal, we could expect a "it's soooooo important that we must past this ASAP. 11:59 on December 31, 2012 would be an excellent time!"
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I think so to But something big is going to happen read this
idk if b.s or not but it explains alot
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This was emailed to me a few days ago. I replied to the sender that this is a very, very dangerous interview to publish. I would hope that he has taken measures to prevent a heart attack.

I had mine in July after spouting off about a sensitive subject. Still recovering from it.
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So, does this make sense to anyone else?
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yes it does make sense that they were planning to ban guns before the shooting. i'm sure there have been plans to ban guns for decades... what is your point?
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So, does this make sense to anyone else?
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yes it does make sense that they were planning to ban guns before the shooting. i'm sure there have been plans to ban guns for decades... what is your point?
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I thought that was fairly apparent. Connecting the dots, or for those of you in the UK, the path was made clear a long time ago (2011) and yet nobody:

A. Listened
B. Was proactive

This is far more than a single event and is not the fruition of any event or plan. This is merely a step on the path.

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So, does this make sense to anyone else?
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yes it does make sense that they were planning to ban guns before the shooting. i'm sure there have been plans to ban guns for decades... what is your point?
 Quoting: Rowsdower


I thought that was fairly apparent. Connecting the dots, or for those of you in the UK, the path was made clear a long time ago (2011) and yet nobody:

A. Listened
B. Was proactive

This is far more than a single event and is not the fruition of any event or plan. This is merely a step on the path.
 Quoting: Billxam


we hear and see what you hear and see :)
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So, does this make sense to anyone else?
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yes it does make sense that they were planning to ban guns before the shooting. i'm sure there have been plans to ban guns for decades... what is your point?
 Quoting: Rowsdower


I thought that was fairly apparent. Connecting the dots, or for those of you in the UK, the path was made clear a long time ago (2011) and yet nobody:

A. Listened
B. Was proactive

This is far more than a single event and is not the fruition of any event or plan. This is merely a step on the path.
 Quoting: Billxam


we hear and see what you hear and see :)
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Thank you!
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one more thing about the bills and laws in this country are that they are prepared well in advance by think tanks, SI groups and lobbyists. They are then passed out when the time is needed to help further their goals ie.. agenda.

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The senate can pass it New Years Eve. but it will never get through the house. Right now the most important thing we can do is write your reps in congress. Tell them that re-actionary laws are always bad laws, and gun control is unconstitutional! DO IT NOW, WHILE THERE IS STILL TIME FOR THEM TO READ IT!

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[link to www.senate.gov]
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The senate can pass it New Years Eve. but it will never get through the house. Right now the most important thing we can do is write your reps in congress. Tell them that re-actionary laws are always bad laws, and gun control is unconstitutional! DO IT NOW, WHILE THERE IS STILL TIME FOR THEM TO READ IT!

[link to www.house.gov]

[link to www.senate.gov]
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This ^

Then, *IF* TSHTF, we'll at least have taken every peaceful venue possible.
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New England has the strictest gun laws in the Nation.
Random crazy people, or government plants (just sayin) are NOT the people gun laws effect.

News Flash:
People who want to mow down children, and anyone else with an AK-47 are not going to follow gun laws, or bans, or shit else.
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I'm not voicing an opinion but am pointing out something that I covered myself in November after the election because I was expecting it to start fairly quickly. So I wasn't surprised when on NOV. 8, 2012 the news came out that the UN weapons deal was back on.

In two separate threads right now on GLP people are wondering where the "list" of Feinstein's proposed (and probably will be passed on 12-31-12 @ 11:59 PM....wanna bet? Dead of night the way they like to do it) banned guns are.

Holder and Obama came up with the list - that everyone at the time figured would be an executive order until the handy Newtown incident happened.

Remember the shooting incident happened December 16, 2012.

We have to go back to 2011 and revisit a critical incident after Obama was elected the first time in his conversation with Sarah Brady.

On the 30th anniversary of the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, Jim Brady and his wife, Sarah, came to Capitol Hill to push for a ban on the controversial "large magazines." Brady met with White House press secretary Jay Carney. During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, "to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda," she said.

"I just want you to know that we are working on it," Brady recalled the president telling them. "We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."


[link to www.greeleygazette.com]


Lots of people don't remember this. But I do, it's my job to remember this kind of stuff. So it sits in the back of my mind and EVERY single gun story is run through that filter.

After the 2012 election, the second red flag went up in a big hurry.

On NOV 29, 2012, this story was "leaked"....

Disastrous 2008 Proposed Gun Ban List Is Being Floated Again... (Final List Will Be Worse)

November 29, 2012

Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly.

I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals.

Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment.

So there you have on NOVEMBER 28 the leak of the list. I'm not saying that this was a false flag, I'm not saying that any human being currently living among us had a hand in the planning of this sick, twisted event.


Thread: BREAKING! Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out!!

[link to www.hipointfirearmsforums.com]

And then on DEC 14, 2012 we have the twisted sick demented shooting in Newtown. Then of course today's Feinstein bill.

[link to www.feinstein.senate.gov]

The shills, of course, will say it's all a massive coincidence. Yeah, right.

However, the timing seems very..... suspicious.
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Not a coincidence to those of us who have kept up with developments on this issue for some time. The fact that "they" went after our children is so horrible, I can't put it into words.
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So, does this make sense to anyone else?
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yes it does make sense that they were planning to ban guns before the shooting. i'm sure there have been plans to ban guns for decades... what is your point?
 Quoting: Rowsdower


I thought that was fairly apparent. Connecting the dots, or for those of you in the UK, the path was made clear a long time ago (2011) and yet nobody:

A. Listened
B. Was proactive

This is far more than a single event and is not the fruition of any event or plan. This is merely a step on the path.
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A step in the path to war. The people won't take this lying down.
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So, does this make sense to anyone else?
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yes it does make sense that they were planning to ban guns before the shooting. i'm sure there have been plans to ban guns for decades... what is your point?
 Quoting: Rowsdower


I thought that was fairly apparent. Connecting the dots, or for those of you in the UK, the path was made clear a long time ago (2011) and yet nobody:

A. Listened
B. Was proactive

This is far more than a single event and is not the fruition of any event or plan. This is merely a step on the path.
 Quoting: Billxam


A step in the path to war. The people won't take this lying down.
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It all makes some sense except Feinstein's bill will not be introduced until sometime in Jan. Personally, I think some parts will pass but not all.
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Considering how many people are emotionally outraged at the shootings and think the gun laws will stop this kind of shit ever again, anyone who opposes it will be a very small amount, I'd say it has an excessively high possibility of being passed.

Good luck america D:
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So, does this make sense to anyone else?
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yes it does make sense that they were planning to ban guns before the shooting. i'm sure there have been plans to ban guns for decades... what is your point?
 Quoting: Rowsdower


I thought that was fairly apparent. Connecting the dots, or for those of you in the UK, the path was made clear a long time ago (2011) and yet nobody:

A. Listened
B. Was proactive


This is far more than a single event and is not the fruition of any event or plan. This is merely a step on the path.
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Many here are "awake", many here knew this agenda, many here do not know what else we could have done. Maybe we're still doing OK?

There was little to do before Sandy Hook. Nobody can prevent a planned false-flag totally. What many here did was to debunk it quickly, to unearth lots of contradictions and preserve evidence in the critical first few days. Now Sandy Hook is basically discredited -- I do not know that nobody died, but I know that a lot of what was said to have happened, did not happen. It was a staged event.

Next was Webster. I guess with Sandy Hook not having the full desired effect, it was decided to kill a few real firefighters. Very sad.

There's no way to be proactive, short of putting a cage around DC with no communication in or out. Those people are always plotting this sort of thing, fucking criminals.

We still defend the country as best we can and hope these bad people fail.
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Considering how many people are emotionally outraged at the shootings and think the gun laws will stop this kind of shit ever again, anyone who opposes it will be a very small amount, I'd say it has an excessively high possibility of being passed.

Good luck america D:
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True that.

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November 8, 2012 UN gun treaty back on.

November 20, 2012 120 gun list leaked, floated, whatever.

December 16, 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting.

December 27, 2012 Feinstein releases proposal with....120 gun list.

Do the math.
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especially when you add "I just want you to know that we are working on it," Brady recalled the president telling them. "We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."
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this was to happen in 08 but got delayed.
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I posted my thoughts elsewhere, after a story was ran about Adam Lanza, today.

My thoughts were, that it was simply a drill, all in the name of gun control, and TPTB ran with it, and there were no deaths. Even mentioned that particular sites posting of photos showing laughing parents, and children immediately after the supposed incident. Which is true. I mentioned a few other things in my comment trying to explain proof that the entire thing was a fake.

My comment was immediately intercepted, and not posted to they're comment section. This website also regularly posts comments without their own moderators. I'm starting to believe that that particular website was being moderated not by its own people, but by the government. And if anyone posts any info, or thoughts debating the truths of the Sandy Hook incident, well, I think they have access to our computers and will do what they can to prevent those of us who have figured it all out, from sharing this info with the general public, and keeping them from knowing the truth.

I think things are only going to get worse from here on in.





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