IS VIOLENCE EVER JUSTIFIED? | |
Chip![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 22480895 12/27/2012 05:45 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course violence can be justified. Only if it is used in a controlled manor and for defensive purposes. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| MartianPrincess Ginesthoi! User ID: 1302027 12/27/2012 05:45 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being a Scorpio! I swear it's like, hardwired into us. But key is, learning how and when to use it. For example, to defend an ideal or an innocent person, vs. to achieve something for my own benefit and/or personal gain. Common sense is a flower that doesn't grow in everyone's garden. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17423268 12/27/2012 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Violence is just a form of stupidity. Whether caused or react upon, one side us required to dip below, to tge level if stupidity. It sucks that it exists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17423268 So you can see no justification for violence ever? If there were enough people with a certain intelligence and empathy levels, i dont think it would exist. This is just a hypothetical scenario, but if this case existed, there would be no justification, for any situtation. Respect is key, which literally means to re-watch. There have been cultures that existed this way, so... Just goes to show you how "modern" we are. But when you have people coming at for you and your land and way of life, how would you respond? I know i didn't really choose a side, but tge story just goes how certain situations can change how someone reacts, and when your life is prevalent with violence, not even.directly involving you, id said violence would be a more common reaction, since alot of "manhood" involves being able.to be.more.violent the next person, which isn't fully true. |
| andawg221 User ID: 30954868 12/27/2012 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is violence ever justified? What are the reasons it could be justified? Self defense? Defending family? Bullying? War? Religion? Communism? Quoting: *HEISENBERG* From huge conflicts to small acts of violence, is any of it justified? Please explain your reasoning. A better question is when is violence by government justified? Since everything it does is based on violence, force, the threat of force and actual violent force. Individuals have always had the right to defend lives and property from aggression by appropriate force. On a government level its both. They always find a way to justify it. And at the same time, if I invade your basement can I then kill anyone that steps down and penetrates my perimeter? |
| andawg221 User ID: 30954868 12/27/2012 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Self defense when being attacked, or protecting someone else from being attacked Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29358702 What if somebody has talked a ton of shit, like when I see you its on and that kind of thing. Then you see them, can you take the fight to them? Or do you have to wait and see what happens? |
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| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/27/2012 05:53 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being a Scorpio! Quoting: MartianPrincess I swear it's like, hardwired into us. But key is, learning how and when to use it. For example, to defend an ideal or an innocent person, vs. to achieve something for my own benefit and/or personal gain. Well said. Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/27/2012 05:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Self defense when being attacked, or protecting someone else from being attacked Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29358702 What if somebody has talked a ton of shit, like when I see you its on and that kind of thing. Then you see them, can you take the fight to them? Or do you have to wait and see what happens? Good question Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/27/2012 05:56 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe I should pose the question while excluding self defense. Everyone agrees self defense is justified but what if we took self defense off the table? Then is violence ever justified? Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
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| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 12/27/2012 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is violence ever justified? What are the reasons it could be justified? Self defense? Defending family? Bullying? War? Religion? Communism? Quoting: *HEISENBERG* From huge conflicts to small acts of violence, is any of it justified? Please explain your reasoning. YES..Your life is YOURS and should not be taken by another. Unless the government does it, then it's perfectly fine, right? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30288790 12/27/2012 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look, when someone turn socialist, they are pretty much gone. Their minds fill with lies justifying one type of theft or another - "occupy" "take" "tax" etc.. It is pointless to try to reason, it just wastes time and puts innocent people in danger. Remember, if you beat their head in with a three foot crowbar next time you see them trying on their cocky commie claptrap, you're not only protecting honest people, but you could also be doing them a favour as well. If you can permanently incapacitate them, then their families can remember them how they were before they went down with socialism and you can ensure that they leave the world better people than if they had been left to fester and cause more pain and suffering in the world with their violent claptrap. So, yes, if you get even half a chance, an excuse to cripple or permanently incapacitate a socialist, you should always, always do it and do the world a big, big favour. |
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| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 12/27/2012 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When someone aims to destroy your safety, or the safety of another, they forfeit their own. Sometimes extreme measures are called for. Unstable and/or unreasonable people cannot be reasoned with- they have to be disarmed/ disabled. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17743321 What happens when government "aims to destroy your safety" ? Should it be "disarmed/disabled"? Or is that only true for the ruled? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17423268 12/27/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look, when someone turn socialist, they are pretty much gone. Their minds fill with lies justifying one type of theft or another - "occupy" "take" "tax" etc.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30288790 It is pointless to try to reason, it just wastes time and puts innocent people in danger. Remember, if you beat their head in with a three foot crowbar next time you see them trying on their cocky commie claptrap, you're not only protecting honest people, but you could also be doing them a favour as well. If you can permanently incapacitate them, then their families can remember them how they were before they went down with socialism and you can ensure that they leave the world better people than if they had been left to fester and cause more pain and suffering in the world with their violent claptrap. So, yes, if you get even half a chance, an excuse to cripple or permanently incapacitate a socialist, you should always, always do it and do the world a big, big favour. Lol..... |
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| jmac User ID: 30263859 12/27/2012 06:42 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love the way that 88% of the GLP armchair warriors voted yes. When in reality they would shit themselves when faced with it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30031419 lol says the person that post as a.c. i bet the mear thaut of someone even yelling makes u shit ur self yes my spelling sux get over it and move on i did. |
| SlimExponent User ID: 30976010 12/27/2012 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone I know ruined a significant aspect of my friends life for their own personal gain and this goes far beyond the financial, so violent revenge can be justified depending on one's mindset. Quoting: RootzGemini You should never instigate violence. Only respond to it. And only then under pressure of self defense. Revenge is not justifiable. Do not do something stupid. |