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I am the AC who wrote that vision I had when I was 15. I tuned 44 today. So it begins. Does anyone have any questions or need any encouragement?

 
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OP,

I can forgive alright but I can never trust again.
Does he demand that you keep hanging around with
the very people who put you at risk time and time
again? I assure you, there are people who will
never do anything but be hurtful and I don't look
forward to spending the rest of my life kicking
myself because I forgave and gave them another
chance to only do worse to me.
Can you forgive but still keep a safe distance?
 Quoting: Stand!


Jesus did say.."Be as gentle as a dove..but wise as a serpent"

In other words...forgive them...but use wisdom as well.

Is it wise to keep going back to the same attacks and pain over and over KNOWING it will result in the same thing over and over?

I recently had to make this very decision myself.

There are times in life you must walk away..trusting that in closing one door..a new one will open.

Its all a part of dying to self..it kills you to walk away..I know..it hurts like Hell...but new beginnings can only take place after old endings are finally completed.


I was warned by a very wise man ten years ago to stay out of my ex wifes life for a while..to give her time to think things over..but I did not listen..I thought by being nice to her and forgiving her and just being there would change her.

It didnt..she just resented it..and now its really and truly over.

I finally had to swallow the lump..accept what had hapenned..and walk away.
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OP, 2 questions.

Why am I here on this planet? why are we all forced to live "this" life? What is the purpose? I would think that an all-powerful, all-loving Creator would dispense with this insignificant time on Earth and simply create us right into the heaven that you experienced.

Why does your user ID keep changing?
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My IP keeps chamging because I connect through a phone and have a dynamic IP that changes all the time.

I dont have any control over it.

In fact it causes me to get banned more often than not.

As to why we are here on this planet?

Well..lets go back a few years.

After I had that vision when I was 15 I could NOT remember it. Up until a few days ago I thought that entire episode was a weird dream..I thought I had imagined it. I knew it had hapenned but I could not quite put my finger on it.

Have you ever had what you knew was a very significant dream..and for a while after you awake you can remember it but by the end of the day, try as you might, its gone?...and you are angry that you didnt write it down while it was still fresh in your mind?

Well..it was like that. I could not recall the dream..I only knew I'd had a very meaningful dream..some odd flashes here and there..a general impression it was important..but thats all.

Then I went into the world..not longer an athiest..quite..but determined to "Pin down" and "Find" what was in the dream I just could not quite recall.

This is where the purpose comes into it..

I have spent the last 28 years in ups and downs..severe pain..some great joys..incredible frustration..despair..all trying to recall..to find..to meet..the one who I saw in my dream. The one who I could not quite remeber.I did not have a clue where to start..and until that dream the search would NOT have started at all.

As each main even took place in my life..the main turning points..I did get a brief moment of clarity..like a dejavu, I could recall that brief moment I was told of that event. But I still could not "Connect" with the one who told me.

ALL I knew is that my life..had a reason...as to what that reason was..well..thats why I started getting angry.

Pain after pain..despair..heartbreak..betrayal..thats what I experienced over and over. I thought.."well..SOME purpose..alive just to know pain..to be alone..to be useless and a nothing".

Despair and anger set in. I could not find my way...so I decided a few times in darkest despair to end it..to forcefully end the search because I was so tired of it.

Death did not want me...I tried three times ON purpose..and many many times indirectly..to end myself..through careless living..taking stupid risks..popping pills..you name it..I did it. I just could not die.

Then I knew...someone was keepong me alive..and I damn well RESENTED it. I WANTED OUT...and that..person..in that dream I could not recall would NOT let me die.

So I began to curse him and get angry with him..whoever it was..JUST like he said I would.

And it was when I was angriest with him that he started to reveal himself..in small ways..a bit here..a little there..

My mind began to open about a year ago. Through creation itself.

Suddenly I saw everything differently...the life force of a flower..the mind of a bee..the love of a puppy...the energy of a horse..the majesty and intricate workings of a tree. I was seeing the creator through the amazing things he had made...

I realised that each created thing served a purpose..had a function..and lived out its individual "destiny"...then I realised what it was all about..or started to.

And it was during this time of discovery of the intricate workings of creation that the greatest tests of my character came.

The betrayals and heartbraking attcks from friends and family began again. But..this time I took it better. I somehow knew it was all part of a plan..to toughen me up..and soften me up. Because I began to see people..in the same way. All hurting..all designed..all with a purpose.

Once I removed myself personally from the situation..and looked at these things in an objective way..I saw the pattern..the reason..and underlying it all was PURPOSE...


That purpose was love.

The death is needed...for ressurection to be possible.

That without disease, healing would not exist.

That without despair, Joy is meaningless.

That without hate...LOVE is unappreciated


That without hurt...forgiveness does not exist

And without obstacles...character does not grow.

And its not just others...I am one of the ones who hurt others...I hated people..I caused injustice..I did a lot of damage...

We are all stel blades..."Iron sharpens Iron"..we are used by eachother FOR eachother...rounding off the edges..the roughness...

I was learning to forgive..because I HAD things that I needed to forgive.

I was learning to love because I saw MYSELF as those others who were hurting me..cause I HURT THEM as well...

I began to see why...the reason we are born into a crappy pain filled world...

Its for our instruction..in the true meaning of love..mercy..compassion..and forgiveness..and MOST of all..to GROW us..from babies who are knocked about by the slightest hurts..to warriors..men and women of character..who could stand in front of a supernova of betrayal and spite and NOT be moved or affected by it.

Because when I was given the total recall of what I saw 28 years ago...I saw the reason..its NOT ABOUT this earth..this earth is a bootcamp..a training ground..a nursery of sorts.

And its NOT permanent...and each person..is given a training course JUST RIGHT for them..and their purpose.

Because when this old planet has served it purpose..there is 1000 years of government and admin and rebulding and prepearation to do...and once the 1000 years is over..an entire univers to oversee..to populate..to govern.

Those who are faithful in a FEW things here..will be responsible for MANY things there.

Our lives are almost over...

And know this one and all..

Take it from one who has spent MOST of his life failing and being a total ratbag...

Its NOT how we have run our race that matters...its HOW we END it...how we break that tape at the end of the course.

Stand tall...and complete your race..your life..KNOWING it has a reason..that nothing has hapenned for nothing..and the coach..the Lord jesus..is there cheering you on..proud of the fact that despite ALL the hurdles..the obstacles..the barriers..the bad weather..the ups and the downs..you are STILL RACING...even if its slowly with a limp..you are heading HOME.

We are nearly there.

SO TAKE COURAGE...we have an incredible future ahead.
 Quoting: OP 16464777


Wow. This is fairly amazing. I have been around bullshitters and scammers all my life, in fact I'm quite good at it myself, but this seems as genuine as anything I have ever come across.

If I may ask just one more question. What becomes of the Hitlers, Jerry Sanduskys, Jeffrey Dahmers, Idi Amins, etc. of this world? Do they share the same spave that you visited in your vision?
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OP,

I can forgive alright but I can never trust again.
Does he demand that you keep hanging around with
the very people who put you at risk time and time
again? I assure you, there are people who will
never do anything but be hurtful and I don't look
forward to spending the rest of my life kicking
myself because I forgave and gave them another
chance to only do worse to me.
Can you forgive but still keep a safe distance?
 Quoting: Stand!



Good question!

What if they're a relative?

Can you forgive, love but not feel the need to be near them?
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Jesus wants character..not religion or doctrines..but character.
 Quoting: OP 17402180


Don't try to tell me what Jesus wants.

This is what EVERY Christian religious 'authority' tries to tell me.

You are not Jesus.

Do you even UNDERSTAND that?

That you are NOT Jesus?

Jesus was murdered not because he wanted to develop character.

He was murdered because he taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth', a Doctrine that offended and threatened the Sadducees and Pharisees.

A Doctrine.

Something that you do not even care about.

You don't CARE what Jesus taught.

He is merely an idol you have created in your own image.

Michael
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As a matter of fact, this person I speak of is a relative...a sister...who is
looking after my 90 year old father who recently had a stroke and who needs some minimal supervision but not to be trapped living with her because he's afraid if he leaves her place, she'll hate him and he can't bear that.
She blocks me from coming to visit him and my only contact comes in phone calls from 1600 miles away.
I've done nothing to deserve such mistreatment, I love my father dearly but now I have to close the door on him too because there's no way to him but through her,
I'm having a tough time forgiving that.
Sorry to divulge all this personal stuff but I'm sure I'm not the only one with difficulties with family members.
To top it all off, they're all "Christians" depending on your definition of the word" ...not my definition, that's for sure.
If she goes to Heaven, I'm grabbing my Lanacaine and taking the DOWN
escalator, if you catch my drift.

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As a matter of fact, this person I speak of is a relative...a sister...who is
looking after my 90 year old father who recently had a stroke and who needs some minimal supervision but not to be trapped living with her because he's afraid if he leaves her place, she'll hate him and he can't bear that.
She blocks me from coming to visit him and my only contact comes in phone calls from 1600 miles away.
I've done nothing to deserve such mistreatment, I love my father dearly but now I have to close the door on him too because there's no way to him but through her,
I'm having a tough time forgiving that.
Sorry to divulge all this personal stuff but I'm sure I'm not the only one with difficulties with family members.
To top it all off, they're all "Christians" depending on your definition of the word" ...not my definition, that's for sure.
If she goes to Heaven, I'm grabbing my Lanacaine and taking the DOWN
escalator, if you catch my drift.
 Quoting: Stand!


You must find a way to reconcile with your sister.
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There is no way to reconcile with her.
If you're kind and giving and conciliatory, she sees that as weakness and
Zooms in for the kill. Trust me, I know. I've tried everything.
She is really messed up and nothing I do will change it.
There's no reasoning with her and my dad is not in a position to take sides, nor should he have to.
 Quoting: Stand!


Well, who cares how she perceives things? We only have to answer for ourselves. You have to forgive her anyway because it's what God wants you to do.

Also do it for the sake of your father for the little time he has left.

I have some difficulty with some family members too, I know how hard it can be to open yourself up to shots like that. I did it, and it was HARD! LOL!

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I've done all I can do.
Emails are ignored.
Attempts to talk things over nicely are seen as "tantrums", for some strange reason I'll never understand and my father has not been told, at least by me, of how things are between us. I won't put him in the middle. He can't do anything about it anyway. He's scared of her.
I'm trying to forgive her, but it's going to be a long time coming.

I'm sorry if it seems I hijacked this thread. I didn't mean to.
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Your not hijacking.

How about just showing up there and face to face talk it out?
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Why are we all peons and you get to sit at the King's knee?
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We are not. We were created with different colours, If were where all like God himself there would be no fun in it.

I once questioned this, It was something that troubled me because I couldn't get it out my head, did God create us because he wanted servants?, why does he create people he knows are doomed to fail?, does hell exist, how can he send anyone there.

He anwered me:

I'm not so good as putting into words what happened but will do my best. I was still up when the rest had gone to bed and started thinking about God, when I became overwhelmed with a feeling of not actually being where I was, very hard to explain, sorry and I know the next bit sounds like the rambling of a lunatic so I leave it upto what you think. I began to hear, not a voice in my head but a silent voice that I could understand, so hard to explain :) I then started feeling like I use to when I use to astral travel in my youth only I wasnt astral traveling. The vision or whatever you want to call it lasted a long time covering many aspects of my life and I understood much at the time that I have since forgotton. However trust me, God didn't create us to be servants, he created us to be family, friends, he created us out of love and he does indeed love us all. What I should say is God was showing me his own heart at the time, letting it pass though me. I asked God, why didn't you make us all perfect, I became aware of my own essence, my sense of humour, and questioning nature, one question that has always bugged me (how can the universe be infiant and how could time start if there wasn't time before it)came into my head. He asked me if i wanted the answer, but after feeling my essence and realising its all part of the FUN i said no to which he replied "its a good one isn't it, enjoy" Now God showed me someone I loved a fair bit, not someone really close but someone I had respect for and told me she wouldn't make it and would need to die, I became very angry and was shouting at God in my head I was so distressed, Don't you do that, Don't you do that I was yelling! He showed me why he must but then gave me the choice, I said it was better for him to make such choices and that I didn't want part of it. I couldn't do it and yet God will have to to many people he loves a great deal more than my love for this person. I wouldn't want to be God for all the gold in china! I then asked God if Hell was an actual place, to which he said do you want to send your friend there, I then felt my love for this person and realised the whole fire and brimstone, tortured forever was miss-interpertation and man made. I then became very tired and went to bed.
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Is it too late for me to reprent for the wrong that I've done in my life?

Is hell real? Does it last forever?

Your life sounds similar to mine. I repented to God for the first time in my 31 years and prayed yesterday and immediately after I found your post. I take that as I sign and I beleived every word that you wrote.

Will earth be destroyed? Will we be going to a new earth?
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Jesus wants character..not religion or doctrines..but character.
 Quoting: OP 17402180


Don't try to tell me what Jesus wants.

This is what EVERY Christian religious 'authority' tries to tell me.

You are not Jesus.

Do you even UNDERSTAND that?

That you are NOT Jesus?

Jesus was murdered not because he wanted to develop character.

He was murdered because he taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth', a Doctrine that offended and threatened the Sadducees and Pharisees.

A Doctrine.

Something that you do not even care about.

You don't CARE what Jesus taught.

He is merely an idol you have created in your own image.

Michael
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I care VERY much about what Jesus taught.

He taught mercy and forgiveness and compassion and love and character.

Because it takes character to forgive those who despitefully use you. It takes courage which is part of character growth to speak about forgiveness and mercy in a world full of neither.

He set the utlimate example when he was on trial. He did not say a word. He let his killers have their way with him offering no defense.

Then after they nailed him up spiting on him and mocking Him he said "father..FORGIVE them..they dont know what they do"

That my dear friend, took CHARCTER. And Jesus and what he did were our example.

The only people he ever took to task and got angry at were the ONES who always focussed on laws and doctrines and do's and donts..the pharisees.

But in the end he set the example and forgave them as well..as they killed him for loving them.

Jesus is all about character.

We either follow his example or we follow the pharisees example and stay stuck in laws and creeds and doctrines..forgetting about mercy and love and compassion.

There is no love or mercy or compassion in doctrine..only condemnation and pride and endless arguments and stife..and months pass and people starve and die while the law keepers ram down eachothers throats endless arguments on the best way to fast or the best way to tithe or keep the sabbath ect ect.

Have you hugged and loved your neighbour recently?

Or do you tell them about doctrine?

Do you forgive others or do you look down on them because they dont see things you way and deep down you long for the day they burn because they dont keep the laws?

The law of the spirit of life is supposed to set us free from the law of sin and death.

If you must be about doctrines and laws..be about the doctrines of mercy and love and life and hope.

It makes a much bigger difference than the laws of death and condemnation and hopelessness.
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Is it too late for me to reprent for the wrong that I've done in my life?

Is hell real? Does it last forever?

Your life sounds similar to mine. I repented to God for the first time in my 31 years and prayed yesterday and immediately after I found your post. I take that as I sign and I beleived every word that you wrote.

Will earth be destroyed? Will we be going to a new earth?
 Quoting: Entil Zha Sigma


Its never too late to be sorry for things done wrong.

The very fact you are aware and sorry for the things you did wrong means you are on the right path.

I did lots of terrible things..disgusting things..woeful things. I am utterly ashamed of the things I did.

But thats the rub.

You are on the right path BECAUSE you are aware you are a sinner..we all are.

The earth will be destroyed in about 1000 years from now Then God makes a new one.
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I live 1600 miles from her and my father.
I had my flight booked and she told me not to come because there would be no place for me to stay.
My dad is living in her basement and one of her son,s and his wife have taken over and are living in Dad's house.
Can't afford a hotel, can't even afford the airfare, and she'd only be livid that I came without notice anyway.
Not only do I have to do without seeing my father, I'm also worried about his situation because he has told me he's unhappy living with her but won't leave because he's afraid my sister will hate him and when he's near the end of his life, he doesn't want to die hated by one of his kids.
There just isn't an easy solution.
I would've talked things up ages ago if she didn't get mad every time I try to talk about anything but superficial matters. She does not want this resolved. She wants to be in control!!
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When I read this it reminded me of a situation that was intolerable so that after I read this it helped me forgive and believe God could work it out.

Where our selfish desires are directly interfered with, or even where an action which we know to be entirely right is prevented, intolerance only makes matters worse. If expressed, it probably rouses bitter feelings in another. Whether we express it openly or not, it keeps us in a state of nervous irritation which is often most painful in its results. Such irritation, if not extreme in its effect, is strong enough to keep any amount of pure enjoyment out of life.
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I care VERY much about what Jesus taught.

He taught mercy and forgiveness and compassion and love and character.
 Quoting: OP 16703143


And, yet, "the Jews" had him murdered for teaching mercy and forgiveness and compassion and love? (This is what many of the Pharisees taught, by the way, who you condemn.)

Does that make any sense to you?

That kind of demonization of the Jews is the very origin of the anti-Semitism that resulted in the slaughter of millions of Jews by Christians/Nazis over the past several hundreds of years.

He was murdered for the Doctrine that he taught.

Any other doctrinal 'explanation' for why Jesus was murdered--like the proto-Nazi Paul's doctrine of "vicarious atonement"--is a doctrine of Satan. (But you don't care about doctrine.)

You care NOTHING about the Doctrine of "resurrection"/'Rebirth'.

In fact, your attempts to publicize this 'vision' of yours is a determined effort to draw the attention of as many people as possible away from the Doctrine that Jesus taught.

And the replies on this thread demonstrate that you are being quite successful in your efforts.

"The path to destruction is wide."

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I care VERY much about what Jesus taught.

He taught mercy and forgiveness and compassion and love and character.
 Quoting: OP 16703143


And, yet, "the Jews" had him murdered for teaching mercy and forgiveness and compassion and love? (This is what many of the Pharisees taught, by the way, who you condemn.)

Does that make any sense to you?

That kind of demonization of the Jews is the very origin of the anti-Semitism that resulted in the slaughter of millions of Jews by Christians/Nazis over the past several hundreds of years.

He was murdered for the Doctrine that he taught.

Any other doctrinal 'explanation' for why Jesus was murdered--like the proto-Nazi Paul's doctrine of "vicarious atonement"--is a doctrine of Satan. (But you don't care about doctrine.)

You care NOTHING about the Doctrine of "resurrection"/'Rebirth'.

In fact, your attempts to publicize this 'vision' of yours is a determined effort to draw the attention of as many people as possible away from the Doctrine that Jesus taught.

And the replies on this thread demonstrate that you are being quite successful in your efforts.

"The path to destruction is wide."

Michael
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He was not murdered because of the "Doctrines" he taught.

He was murdered by them because of the doctrines THEY taught.

They always hated him because he kept showing them up in their hypocrisy.

He healed a woman on the sabbath..they ignored the mercy and compassion he showed her and straight away ponted out the "law" he broke.

They hated him because he did not SIDE with them in their endless keeping of the "LAws"..he exposed their hypocrisy and he did it publicly and thats why they hated him. They were losing their power and control over the people which is what "religion" and "Law" is all about.

They did not love Gis..they loved themselves..and their laws..and their money and their power.

jesus exposed that fault in them.

Thats why they killed him.
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I live 1600 miles from her and my father.
I had my flight booked and she told me not to come because there would be no place for me to stay.
My dad is living in her basement and one of her son,s and his wife have taken over and are living in Dad's house.
Can't afford a hotel, can't even afford the airfare, and she'd only be livid that I came without notice anyway.
Not only do I have to do without seeing my father, I'm also worried about his situation because he has told me he's unhappy living with her but won't leave because he's afraid my sister will hate him and when he's near the end of his life, he doesn't want to die hated by one of his kids.
There just isn't an easy solution.
I would've talked things up ages ago if she didn't get mad every time I try to talk about anything but superficial matters. She does not want this resolved. She wants to be in control!!
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Book the flight, don't tell her you are coming and stay in a hotel.

Go to see your dad and try your best to reconcile with her while you are there.
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I care VERY much about what Jesus taught.

He taught mercy and forgiveness and compassion and love and character.
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And, yet, "the Jews" had him murdered for teaching mercy and forgiveness and compassion and love? (This is what many of the Pharisees taught, by the way, who you condemn.)

Does that make any sense to you?

That kind of demonization of the Jews is the very origin of the anti-Semitism that resulted in the slaughter of millions of Jews by Christians/Nazis over the past several hundreds of years.

He was murdered for the Doctrine that he taught.

Any other doctrinal 'explanation' for why Jesus was murdered--like the proto-Nazi Paul's doctrine of "vicarious atonement"--is a doctrine of Satan. (But you don't care about doctrine.)

You care NOTHING about the Doctrine of "resurrection"/'Rebirth'.

In fact, your attempts to publicize this 'vision' of yours is a determined effort to draw the attention of as many people as possible away from the Doctrine that Jesus taught.

And the replies on this thread demonstrate that you are being quite successful in your efforts.

"The path to destruction is wide."

Michael
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He was not murdered because of the "Doctrines" he taught.

He was murdered by them because of the doctrines THEY taught.

They always hated him because he kept showing them up in their hypocrisy.

He healed a woman on the sabbath..they ignored the mercy and compassion he showed her and straight away ponted out the "law" he broke.

They hated him because he did not SIDE with them in their endless keeping of the "LAws"..he exposed their hypocrisy and he did it publicly and thats why they hated him. They were losing their power and control over the people which is what "religion" and "Law" is all about.

They did not love Gis..they loved themselves..and their laws..and their money and their power.

jesus exposed that fault in them.

Thats why they killed him.
 Quoting: OP 17162909


Right on OP!!!!!!! Exactly!!!!!!!!!

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I care VERY much about what Jesus taught.

He taught mercy and forgiveness and compassion and love and character.
 Quoting: OP 16703143


And, yet, "the Jews" had him murdered for teaching mercy and forgiveness and compassion and love? (This is what many of the Pharisees taught, by the way, who you condemn.)

Does that make any sense to you?

That kind of demonization of the Jews is the very origin of the anti-Semitism that resulted in the slaughter of millions of Jews by Christians/Nazis over the past several hundreds of years.

He was murdered for the Doctrine that he taught.

Any other doctrinal 'explanation' for why Jesus was murdered--like the proto-Nazi Paul's doctrine of "vicarious atonement"--is a doctrine of Satan. (But you don't care about doctrine.)

You care NOTHING about the Doctrine of "resurrection"/'Rebirth'.

In fact, your attempts to publicize this 'vision' of yours is a determined effort to draw the attention of as many people as possible away from the Doctrine that Jesus taught.

And the replies on this thread demonstrate that you are being quite successful in your efforts.

"The path to destruction is wide."

Michael
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31026536


He was not murdered because of the "Doctrines" he taught.

He was murdered by them because of the doctrines THEY taught.

They always hated him because he kept showing them up in their hypocrisy.

He healed a woman on the sabbath..they ignored the mercy and compassion he showed her and straight away ponted out the "law" he broke.

They hated him because he did not SIDE with them in their endless keeping of the "LAws"..he exposed their hypocrisy and he did it publicly and thats why they hated him. They were losing their power and control over the people which is what "religion" and "Law" is all about.

They did not love God..they loved themselves..and their laws..and their money and their power.

jesus exposed that fault in them.

Thats why they killed him.
 Quoting: OP 17162909


FXD.

And also..why are you so obsessed with ressurection/rebirth?

I have never said anything against it.

If you read my original vision and other replies since..im all for it.

There IS a ressurection and a rebirth.

Without death..there is no ressurection true?

Only that which is dead can ressurect.

Only that wich is born dead can be reborn alive..true?

So why are you trying to tear me to peices..when all along..I am just trying to focus on love and mercy and forgievness and character growth?

Do these things offend you?

Are you upset at me because I am not endlessly fighting about laws and ramming do's and donts down peoples throats?

Is it an offence of mine that I dont throw stones at the adulteresd because I too have sin?

Only those without sin are able to exceute judgment on people.

And I did not "Condemn" the pharisees..only what they did.

because how dare I condemn anyone jesus aske forgiveness for?

He said..OF the pharisees..the ones who had him killed 'FATHER FORGIVE THEM"...but he did not forgive their doctrines..only the people.

You see..their doctrines were not theirs..but the evil ones words and doings.

Doctrines of demons always lead to bondage.

The pharisees doctrines always lead to bondage.

The doctrine was not theirs..but satans.
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So, my question to the OP is, do I have to put myself in harms way to be forgiving when no good can ever come of it?
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No.

Thats where wisdom comes in.

Do you walk into a yard with a vicious dog and keep getting bitten no matter how many times you forgive it for biting you?

Be wise.

You can forgive..and the best way to turn things around is just pray for that person..and when they do hurt you..just let it slide..let it sail on past you.

But do not keep repeating the same behaviour that allowes them to hurt you.

Be strong and take a stance..by NOT always letting yourself be led into that situation. I know this from hard experience.

Its possible to forgive...and its also possible to not allow the situation to re occur as well.

Right now I am estranged from my brother. I know I need to reconcile with him but every text or apology I send him gets greeted with expletives and curses..HE is going through a tough time himself and just lashing out in anger and pain.

So I walked away..and just pray for him. Its all I can do.

But for me to keep bothering him..only makes it worse..for him..and for me.

If you pray for your tormentor..then GOD can change their heart.

He can change any heart..he changed mine.

A few months ago I was a cursing swearing hate filled angry wreck...but someone out there was praying for me.

Go and do likewise.
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I live 1600 miles from her and my father.
I had my flight booked and she told me not to come because there would be no place for me to stay.
My dad is living in her basement and one of her son,s and his wife have taken over and are living in Dad's house.
Can't afford a hotel, can't even afford the airfare, and she'd only be livid that I came without notice anyway.
Not only do I have to do without seeing my father, I'm also worried about his situation because he has told me he's unhappy living with her but won't leave because he's afraid my sister will hate him and when he's near the end of his life, he doesn't want to die hated by one of his kids.
There just isn't an easy solution.
I would've talked things up ages ago if she didn't get mad every time I try to talk about anything but superficial matters. She does not want this resolved. She wants to be in control!!
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When I read this it reminded me of a situation that was intolerable so that after I read this it helped me forgive and believe God could work it out.

Where our selfish desires are directly interfered with, or even where an action which we know to be entirely right is prevented, intolerance only makes matters worse. If expressed, it probably rouses bitter feelings in another. Whether we express it openly or not, it keeps us in a state of nervous irritation which is often most painful in its results. Such irritation, if not extreme in its effect, is strong enough to keep any amount of pure enjoyment out of life.


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I'm not sure what you mean. All both my dad and I want is to be in touch But he's forced into a living situation where me even being in the picture makes that impossible.
Either I try to keep thinking of ways to be in his life and risk her raging at me and controlling my every word or deed, or I walk away from both of them and lose a dad.
It's lose/lose anyway you slice it...and kindness, compassion, and utter
cooperation doesn't work with her.
I'll just have to live with it, but forgiveness isn't going to come easily
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I understand exactly what you mean and if you feel there is nothing you can do to change the situation you got to believe that the Lord is very aware of your pain as well as your dads but love, acceptance and forgiveness though hard as it is may be the start to better things for him as well as you.
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There is no way to reconcile with her.
If you're kind and giving and conciliatory, she sees that as weakness and
Zooms in for the kill. Trust me, I know. I've tried everything.
She is really messed up and nothing I do will change it.
There's no reasoning with her and my dad is not in a position to take sides, nor should he have to.
There are just some people who are bent on their own path and any attempt at reconciliation is seen as harassment regardless of good intent or loving kindness. That's just how it is.
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I have the same type of people in my life. They make it impossible and they are "christians" too, but so am I and I am not anything like them in fact we are totally opposites. I thought that being a Christian meant to be or act like Christ but in some of these Christians there is nothing Christ-Like about them. I'm sorry just venting. I love them though no matter how they act or say anyways, they are still my family.
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In the end, we all stand alone before the Lord and give an accounting. We won't be able to blame our words or actions on anyone else other then ourselves.

Everyone's situation is different, but if it's at all possible, reconciliation and forgiveness is the most important thing with these broken family relationships. If you've done everything humanly possible to reconcile, and the other party flat out refuses, then there isn't much you can do other then pray for that person, that their heart will be softened so a future reconciliation can happen.

I have strained relationships in my family too, and know the pain involved in these situations. Of course, I blame the other party, but knowing that I did contribute I put my ego aside and allowed myself exposure to this person and it actually turned out quite well and reconciliation is in the works, it's a process not instant. It's not perfect, but it doesn't have to be because I honestly gave it 100% effort.

God reads our hearts, He knows everything. It's ok to let your feelings get hurt for the sake of trying to forgive.

When they came for Jesus, He told His apostles to put their swords away and healed the ear of the soldier even tho they were leading Him away to kill Him.

Forgiveness and trying to love and forgive is more important then our superficial egos. Atleast give it 100% effort and pray about the rest.

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