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I am the AC who wrote that vision I had when I was 15. I tuned 44 today. So it begins. Does anyone have any questions or need any encouragement?

 
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SOT

This is like a soap opera with you. You are cluttering up I wonderful thread with all your hot air. Please pray for forgiveness , everyone here has forgiven you.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Yeah....including me...go figure! :-)

Seriously, SOT, I've met your type before and all they did was preach hellfire and brimstone and THAT pushed me away from even wanting to have anything to do with God. Then I met someone who showed me how loving and understanding Jesus was and I confirmed it by reading the gospels...Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
It was then that I wanted to know Him, and ever since, things have been looking up and, now, I walk with Him and will never turn back.
So, what's the point here?
It's simple.
The Bible says, "By their fruits, ye shall know them."
Keep preaching fear, dread, and threats and see how much "fruit" you bear.
On the other hand, much fruit has been borne by the OP of this post and one of his fruits has been me.
Can you show us YOUR fruits, SOT?
Just sayin.....:-)
 Quoting: Stand!


In the early 1700's in America, the nation had sunk
deep into sin. Fornication abounded, drunkenness and
disrespect was the order of the day.
Compared to America today which is as vile and wicked
as Sodom or Gomorrah, 1700's America was absolutely
devout, but THAT America had lost its Christian moorings.

Something happened. An outpouring of the Holy Spirit,
that was known at the time as, the "Great Awakening".

Perhaps the greatest preacher of that era was
Jonathan Edwards.
He preached fire and brimstone. It changed America.

Here is one of his most famous sermons.
"SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD"
[link to www.jonathan-edwards.org]

The "feel good" christianity of today is saving FEW.
The fruits of this Church of Laodicea, are evident
EVERYWHERE.
There is NO true repentence. America is falling
headlong into absolute total moral corruption, and
financial ruin.

Some fruits, huh?

The so-called "fire and brimstome" preaching is
unpleasant to our itching ears today.
That same preaching put an evil nation back on the
narrow path, and if it hadn't we would have been
destroyed long, long ago.

God is Love, but he also is a God of GREAT WRATH.

Solomon said,
Proverbs 1
7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge:
but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Jesus said,
Matthew 10
28 And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able
to destroy both soul and body in hell.

YOU CANNOT APPRECIATE THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL,
UNLESS YOU FIRST UNDERSTAND THE BAD NEWS.

The bad news is that the world WAS and IS headed
for eternal damnation.

But THE GOOD NEWS is that God had mercy on us, and
sent His Son into the world, that WHOSOEVER would
believe in Him, might not perish, but receive
eternal life.

Most people will reject the salvation offered by God,
and will perish. Jesus said so, but He still holds
out the offer to anyone who would receive it.
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Re: I am the AC who wrote that vision I had when I was 15. I tuned 44 today. So it begins. Does anyone have any questions or need any encouragement?
Does the news of the Pope leaving mean anything 2 you? I am not a Bible person; however, I did receive this message awhile back (last year) that I would know it was a sign. I thought weird??? Why, a sign of what? Keep in mind I am not Bible/church/cult or whatever label they want to put on me, I am not a follower of any one thing, I just am the sum of many.
Thank you
 Quoting: Seeking 1437837


The pope leaving is just the start.

Its the harbinger..the "Example" you might say of just how "Unexpected" and "Sudden" and "Unforseen" the upcoming worldwide event will be.

I still have NO idea of what the "event is"..but I DO know what it isnt.

Its not the catholic "Warning" everyones going on about..it CANT be..because everyone is "Warning" about it and talking about it.

The event I am talking about will have NO warnings..NO one will be talking about it..and NO one will see..or even suspect its coming.

On a day like any other day...just like today..people living..loving..hating..buying..selling..getting married..giving birth..attending funerals..life as normal..ON a day JUST like that..like the one we are in NOW..an ordinary day..BANG..unprecedented CHAOS...out of nowhere..sudden and fast and unseen.

Even the PTB will have NO idea what happenned.

Because it will be the lord who did it..not them..and not satan.


The reason for it is this..

To get everyone thinking..to make them realise that their lives are NOT in their hands..but in HIS..to make them see that they have had everything..taken for granted..water..food..money..power..its all going to CEASE...and cease with NO warning at all..NONE whatsoever.


Ever read that book "One second after"..how unexpected that happenned..and its results?

Well..its similar to that in its efects.

One minute all is normal..the next..all is insane...and all we knew..all we took for granted...will be..simply..GONE.

Thus I stress the need to be ready..if not in the physical..at least in your hearts..get ready to trust the lord with all your strength..because it will be very needed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


So this EVENT will NOT be WWIII started by men, nor a
total economic collapse, caused by men, nor any manmade
disaster, but a natural or supernatural EVENT??
Like a worldwide earthquake, or the sun going dark,
or a huge meteor striking Earth?
Or some unexplainable EVENT?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


It could be ANY of those things..or ALL of them all at once.

I honestly dont know.

The Lord never told me WHAt the actual event was..nor the day it hits. But he DID tell me its effects..the results of it..and that when it happens life will still be going on as normal..well..mostly...right up till it happens.

And that its this year..anywhere between April and September..but more closer to the middle I feel..if not sooner.

All I know is its coming..whatever it is. And I feel it..I can sense it..a growing sort of..burden.

He said there would be no warning of it..and thats why I dont know the details either..even I will be surprised by it..everyone will be.


I am no one special and he is no respecter of persons.

The ONLY reason he has me doing what I do now is because I finally learnt obedience through a LOT of pain and suffering...and he is using me..probably one of his most stubborn rebellious children to help people.

I dont rebell anymore..but..it took years and years of lesson after lesson to get it out of me.


But..I am no great prophet..about my only gift is a way with words and explaining things..and a lifetime of hard experience on what NOT to do...and an understanding of what love is.
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Does the news of the Pope leaving mean anything 2 you? I am not a Bible person; however, I did receive this message awhile back (last year) that I would know it was a sign. I thought weird??? Why, a sign of what? Keep in mind I am not Bible/church/cult or whatever label they want to put on me, I am not a follower of any one thing, I just am the sum of many.
Thank you
 Quoting: Seeking 1437837


The pope leaving is just the start.

Its the harbinger..the "Example" you might say of just how "Unexpected" and "Sudden" and "Unforseen" the upcoming worldwide event will be.

I still have NO idea of what the "event is"..but I DO know what it isnt.

Its not the catholic "Warning" everyones going on about..it CANT be..because everyone is "Warning" about it and talking about it.

The event I am talking about will have NO warnings..NO one will be talking about it..and NO one will see..or even suspect its coming.

On a day like any other day...just like today..people living..loving..hating..buying..selling..getting married..giving birth..attending funerals..life as normal..ON a day JUST like that..like the one we are in NOW..an ordinary day..BANG..unprecedented CHAOS...out of nowhere..sudden and fast and unseen.

Even the PTB will have NO idea what happenned.

Because it will be the lord who did it..not them..and not satan.


The reason for it is this..

To get everyone thinking..to make them realise that their lives are NOT in their hands..but in HIS..to make them see that they have had everything..taken for granted..water..food..money..power..its all going to CEASE...and cease with NO warning at all..NONE whatsoever.


Ever read that book "One second after"..how unexpected that happenned..and its results?

Well..its similar to that in its efects.

One minute all is normal..the next..all is insane...and all we knew..all we took for granted...will be..simply..GONE.

Thus I stress the need to be ready..if not in the physical..at least in your hearts..get ready to trust the lord with all your strength..because it will be very needed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


So this EVENT will NOT be WWIII started by men, nor a
total economic collapse, caused by men, nor any manmade
disaster, but a natural or supernatural EVENT??
Like a worldwide earthquake, or the sun going dark,
or a huge meteor striking Earth?
Or some unexplainable EVENT?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


It could be ANY of those things..or ALL of them all at once.

I honestly dont know.

The Lord never told me WHAt the actual event was..nor the day it hits. But he DID tell me its effects..the results of it..and that when it happens life will still be going on as normal..well..mostly...right up till it happens.

And that its this year..anywhere between April and September..but more closer to the middle I feel..if not sooner.

All I know is its coming..whatever it is. And I feel it..I can sense it..a growing sort of..burden.

He said there would be no warning of it..and thats why I dont know the details either..even I will be surprised by it..everyone will be.


I am no one special and he is no respecter of persons.

The ONLY reason he has me doing what I do now is because I finally learnt obedience through a LOT of pain and suffering...and he is using me..probably one of his most stubborn rebellious children to help people.

I dont rebell anymore..but..it took years and years of lesson after lesson to get it out of me.


But..I am no great prophet..about my only gift is a way with words and explaining things..and a lifetime of hard experience on what NOT to do...and an understanding of what love is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584



I think you will like this OP part of it is for you, and you alone

Thread: Identifying Your Gifts Which Bring Glory to God
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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SOT

This is like a soap opera with you. You are cluttering up I wonderful thread with all your hot air. Please pray for forgiveness , everyone here has forgiven you.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Yeah....including me...go figure! :-)

Seriously, SOT, I've met your type before and all they did was preach hellfire and brimstone and THAT pushed me away from even wanting to have anything to do with God. Then I met someone who showed me how loving and understanding Jesus was and I confirmed it by reading the gospels...Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
It was then that I wanted to know Him, and ever since, things have been looking up and, now, I walk with Him and will never turn back.
So, what's the point here?
It's simple.
The Bible says, "By their fruits, ye shall know them."
Keep preaching fear, dread, and threats and see how much "fruit" you bear.
On the other hand, much fruit has been borne by the OP of this post and one of his fruits has been me.
Can you show us YOUR fruits, SOT?
Just sayin.....:-)
 Quoting: Stand!


In the early 1700's in America, the nation had sunk
deep into sin. Fornication abounded, drunkenness and
disrespect was the order of the day.
Compared to America today which is as vile and wicked
as Sodom or Gomorrah, 1700's America was absolutely
devout, but THAT America had lost its Christian moorings.

Something happened. An outpouring of the Holy Spirit,
that was known at the time as, the "Great Awakening".

Perhaps the greatest preacher of that era was
Jonathan Edwards.
He preached fire and brimstone. It changed America.

Here is one of his most famous sermons.
"SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD"
[link to www.jonathan-edwards.org]

The "feel good" christianity of today is saving FEW.
The fruits of this Church of Laodicea, are evident
EVERYWHERE.
There is NO true repentence. America is falling
headlong into absolute total moral corruption, and
financial ruin.

Some fruits, huh?

The so-called "fire and brimstome" preaching is
unpleasant to our itching ears today.
That same preaching put an evil nation back on the
narrow path, and if it hadn't we would have been
destroyed long, long ago.

God is Love, but he also is a God of GREAT WRATH.

Solomon said,
Proverbs 1
7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge:
but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Jesus said,
Matthew 10
28 And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able
to destroy both soul and body in hell.

YOU CANNOT APPRECIATE THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL,
UNLESS YOU FIRST UNDERSTAND THE BAD NEWS.

The bad news is that the world WAS and IS headed
for eternal damnation.

But THE GOOD NEWS is that God had mercy on us, and
sent His Son into the world, that WHOSOEVER would
believe in Him, might not perish, but receive
eternal life.

Most people will reject the salvation offered by God,
and will perish. Jesus said so, but He still holds
out the offer to anyone who would receive it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


And look at what hapenned to America.

There is your fruit.

If what Jonathan did was of the LORD..the fruit would have lasted.

Look at it like this..

The Lord wants us to love him with our whole heart..in spirit and in truth. He does not want PRETENDERS..people who really DONT love him but SAY they do..but their hearts are far from him.

Over and over he says this in His word,,he wants REAL love..TRUE love..not forced and fake love..or hypocritical love.

Now..to go around telling to people to LOVE God OR he will burn you alive in horrible tortures..MAY get a few to come a grovelling..but DO THEY REALLY OLOVE GOD?..or are they just SCARED TO DEATH about what he will do to them if they dont?

So any service they give..is always given in DURESS..its been FORCED out of them..on PAIN OF TORTURE.

Its blackmail really..coercian and force..which the fruit of is a hypocritical SELFISH LOVE..fake love..FORCED love..which is NO love.

If you wanted to woo a womans heart...tell me..would you speak gently too her..be kind to her..show her unconditional love and speak life and compliments to her..and thus win her heart and she would TRULY fall in love with you?

OR..would you threaten her..stalk her..tell her you love her with your lips..but treat her like dirt and speak nasty threatening things to her..and tell her if she does NOT marry you before a certain date that you will kidnap her and lock her in a dungeon and torture her and ignore her screams for mercy as you tell her with anger "YOU SHOULD HAVE MARRIED ME WHILE YOU HAD THE CHANCE"?

Which one of these wins a womans heart?

The second way is the work of a pshycopath..a sadistic twisted evil hearted monster..who would be locked up in a loony bin if he actually DID that.

But thats what you are saying God is.

And that also explains why most hellfire christians are hypocrites..because any service they give to God is done in DURESS..not love..their god holds hell over them if they dont bow..he threatens and stalks them..and says to them.."Serve me..or I will torture you in screaming agony forever"..DOOM DEATH AND JUDGMENT..is all they ever hear..and all they ever preach.

Their "Love" of God is selfish..they serve him only to save themselves..and when they think THEY are saved from this horrible doom..they snidley proclaim..with a self rightous selfish cold heart..the same DOOM to everyone else..and they dont care..about anyone but themselves. So long as THEY are safe from the fire..nothing else matters.
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The pope leaving is just the start.

Its the harbinger..the "Example" you might say of just how "Unexpected" and "Sudden" and "Unforseen" the upcoming worldwide event will be.

I still have NO idea of what the "event is"..but I DO know what it isnt.

Its not the catholic "Warning" everyones going on about..it CANT be..because everyone is "Warning" about it and talking about it.

The event I am talking about will have NO warnings..NO one will be talking about it..and NO one will see..or even suspect its coming.

On a day like any other day...just like today..people living..loving..hating..buying..selling..getting married..giving birth..attending funerals..life as normal..ON a day JUST like that..like the one we are in NOW..an ordinary day..BANG..unprecedented CHAOS...out of nowhere..sudden and fast and unseen.

Even the PTB will have NO idea what happenned.

Because it will be the lord who did it..not them..and not satan.


The reason for it is this..

To get everyone thinking..to make them realise that their lives are NOT in their hands..but in HIS..to make them see that they have had everything..taken for granted..water..food..money..power..its all going to CEASE...and cease with NO warning at all..NONE whatsoever.


Ever read that book "One second after"..how unexpected that happenned..and its results?

Well..its similar to that in its efects.

One minute all is normal..the next..all is insane...and all we knew..all we took for granted...will be..simply..GONE.

Thus I stress the need to be ready..if not in the physical..at least in your hearts..get ready to trust the lord with all your strength..because it will be very needed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


So this EVENT will NOT be WWIII started by men, nor a
total economic collapse, caused by men, nor any manmade
disaster, but a natural or supernatural EVENT??
Like a worldwide earthquake, or the sun going dark,
or a huge meteor striking Earth?
Or some unexplainable EVENT?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


It could be ANY of those things..or ALL of them all at once.

I honestly dont know.

The Lord never told me WHAt the actual event was..nor the day it hits. But he DID tell me its effects..the results of it..and that when it happens life will still be going on as normal..well..mostly...right up till it happens.

And that its this year..anywhere between April and September..but more closer to the middle I feel..if not sooner.

All I know is its coming..whatever it is. And I feel it..I can sense it..a growing sort of..burden.

He said there would be no warning of it..and thats why I dont know the details either..even I will be surprised by it..everyone will be.


I am no one special and he is no respecter of persons.

The ONLY reason he has me doing what I do now is because I finally learnt obedience through a LOT of pain and suffering...and he is using me..probably one of his most stubborn rebellious children to help people.

I dont rebell anymore..but..it took years and years of lesson after lesson to get it out of me.


But..I am no great prophet..about my only gift is a way with words and explaining things..and a lifetime of hard experience on what NOT to do...and an understanding of what love is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584



I think you will like this OP part of it is for you, and you alone

Thread: Identifying Your Gifts Which Bring Glory to God
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Yes..I know the part you mean..I know what that sort of pain is like.

The years have passed on by..the lessons learnt now..and forgiving myself was perhaps the hardest one.
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SOT

This is like a soap opera with you. You are cluttering up I wonderful thread with all your hot air. Please pray for forgiveness , everyone here has forgiven you.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Yeah....including me...go figure! :-)

Seriously, SOT, I've met your type before and all they did was preach hellfire and brimstone and THAT pushed me away from even wanting to have anything to do with God. Then I met someone who showed me how loving and understanding Jesus was and I confirmed it by reading the gospels...Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
It was then that I wanted to know Him, and ever since, things have been looking up and, now, I walk with Him and will never turn back.
So, what's the point here?
It's simple.
The Bible says, "By their fruits, ye shall know them."
Keep preaching fear, dread, and threats and see how much "fruit" you bear.
On the other hand, much fruit has been borne by the OP of this post and one of his fruits has been me.
Can you show us YOUR fruits, SOT?
Just sayin.....:-)
 Quoting: Stand!


In the early 1700's in America, the nation had sunk
deep into sin. Fornication abounded, drunkenness and
disrespect was the order of the day.
Compared to America today which is as vile and wicked
as Sodom or Gomorrah, 1700's America was absolutely
devout, but THAT America had lost its Christian moorings.

Something happened. An outpouring of the Holy Spirit,
that was known at the time as, the "Great Awakening".

Perhaps the greatest preacher of that era was
Jonathan Edwards.
He preached fire and brimstone. It changed America.

Here is one of his most famous sermons.
"SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD"
[link to www.jonathan-edwards.org]

The "feel good" christianity of today is saving FEW.
The fruits of this Church of Laodicea, are evident
EVERYWHERE.
There is NO true repentence. America is falling
headlong into absolute total moral corruption, and
financial ruin.

Some fruits, huh?

The so-called "fire and brimstome" preaching is
unpleasant to our itching ears today.
That same preaching put an evil nation back on the
narrow path, and if it hadn't we would have been
destroyed long, long ago.

God is Love, but he also is a God of GREAT WRATH.

Solomon said,
Proverbs 1
7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge:
but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Jesus said,
Matthew 10
28 And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able
to destroy both soul and body in hell.

YOU CANNOT APPRECIATE THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL,
UNLESS YOU FIRST UNDERSTAND THE BAD NEWS.

The bad news is that the world WAS and IS headed
for eternal damnation.

But THE GOOD NEWS is that God had mercy on us, and
sent His Son into the world, that WHOSOEVER would
believe in Him, might not perish, but receive
eternal life.

Most people will reject the salvation offered by God,
and will perish. Jesus said so, but He still holds
out the offer to anyone who would receive it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


And look at what hapenned to America.

There is your fruit.

If what Jonathan did was of the LORD..the fruit would have lasted.

Look at it like this..

The Lord wants us to love him with our whole heart..in spirit and in truth. He does not want PRETENDERS..people who really DONT love him but SAY they do..but their hearts are far from him.

Over and over he says this in His word,,he wants REAL love..TRUE love..not forced and fake love..or hypocritical love.

Now..to go around telling to people to LOVE God OR he will burn you alive in horrible tortures..MAY get a few to come a grovelling..but DO THEY REALLY OLOVE GOD?..or are they just SCARED TO DEATH about what he will do to them if they dont?

So any service they give..is always given in DURESS..its been FORCED out of them..on PAIN OF TORTURE.

Its blackmail really..coercian and force..which the fruit of is a hypocritical SELFISH LOVE..fake love..FORCED love..which is NO love.

If you wanted to woo a womans heart...tell me..would you speak gently too her..be kind to her..show her unconditional love and speak life and compliments to her..and thus win her heart and she would TRULY fall in love with you?

OR..would you threaten her..stalk her..tell her you love her with your lips..but treat her like dirt and speak nasty threatening things to her..and tell her if she does NOT marry you before a certain date that you will kidnap her and lock her in a dungeon and torture her and ignore her screams for mercy as you tell her with anger "YOU SHOULD HAVE MARRIED ME WHILE YOU HAD THE CHANCE"?

Which one of these wins a womans heart?

The second way is the work of a pshycopath..a sadistic twisted evil hearted monster..who would be locked up in a loony bin if he actually DID that.

But thats what you are saying God is.

And that also explains why most hellfire christians are hypocrites..because any service they give to God is done in DURESS..not love..their god holds hell over them if they dont bow..he threatens and stalks them..and says to them.."Serve me..or I will torture you in screaming agony forever"..DOOM DEATH AND JUDGMENT..is all they ever hear..and all they ever preach.

Their "Love" of God is selfish..they serve him only to save themselves..and when they think THEY are saved from this horrible doom..they snidley proclaim..with a self rightous selfish cold heart..the same DOOM to everyone else..and they dont care..about anyone but themselves. So long as THEY are safe from the fire..nothing else matters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


Have you read the OLD TESTAMENT?
The children of Israel were perpetually in either
a state of revival or moral degeneracy.
Don't blame Jonathan Edwards for the moral degeneracy
of this vile, wicked generation.

Judgment starts at the House of the Lord.
The preachers who don't preach REPENTENCE FIRST,
or who preach the "feel good" gospel, which has never
to my knowledge darkened America's door,
or who preach the prosperity gospel with God playing
the role of Santa Claus, another new satanic twist,
all these people will answer for the souls they are
leading to perdition.

You have Christianity upside down and backwards.
Christians love God for what HE DID for us at Calvary.
We have NO FEAR at all, of ANYTHING.
We are NO LONGER CONDEMNED,
but those who haven't received the Lord Jesus Christ
have EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD TO FEAR,
because they are already condemned, as Jesus said.
They are bound for the Lake of Fire!!!

That isn't some notion Christians came up with to
fill the pews of their churches by scaring the lost,
it is the WORD OF GOD!

It is a fact, and if you have any unsaved loved ones,
to keep that reality from them, is nothing short of SIN.

I don't know if you are saved or not, but we are to
proclaim the WHOLE COUNSEL of God.
Most importantly is God's Love shown at Calvary,
where He was tortured, crucified, and died a bloody
death, IN OUR PLACE!

Jesus Christ, and Him crucified!

He is our Lord and our God and our Salvation,
but if you leave this world without Him, you are
eternally lost,
and that fact should make ANYONE SHUDDER.
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SOT

This is like a soap opera with you. You are cluttering up I wonderful thread with all your hot air. Please pray for forgiveness , everyone here has forgiven you.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Yeah....including me...go figure! :-)

Seriously, SOT, I've met your type before and all they did was preach hellfire and brimstone and THAT pushed me away from even wanting to have anything to do with God. Then I met someone who showed me how loving and understanding Jesus was and I confirmed it by reading the gospels...Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
It was then that I wanted to know Him, and ever since, things have been looking up and, now, I walk with Him and will never turn back.
So, what's the point here?
It's simple.
The Bible says, "By their fruits, ye shall know them."
Keep preaching fear, dread, and threats and see how much "fruit" you bear.
On the other hand, much fruit has been borne by the OP of this post and one of his fruits has been me.
Can you show us YOUR fruits, SOT?
Just sayin.....:-)
 Quoting: Stand!


In the early 1700's in America, the nation had sunk
deep into sin. Fornication abounded, drunkenness and
disrespect was the order of the day.
Compared to America today which is as vile and wicked
as Sodom or Gomorrah, 1700's America was absolutely
devout, but THAT America had lost its Christian moorings.

Something happened. An outpouring of the Holy Spirit,
that was known at the time as, the "Great Awakening".

Perhaps the greatest preacher of that era was
Jonathan Edwards.
He preached fire and brimstone. It changed America.

Here is one of his most famous sermons.
"SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD"
[link to www.jonathan-edwards.org]

The "feel good" christianity of today is saving FEW.
The fruits of this Church of Laodicea, are evident
EVERYWHERE.
There is NO true repentence. America is falling
headlong into absolute total moral corruption, and
financial ruin.

Some fruits, huh?

The so-called "fire and brimstome" preaching is
unpleasant to our itching ears today.
That same preaching put an evil nation back on the
narrow path, and if it hadn't we would have been
destroyed long, long ago.

God is Love, but he also is a God of GREAT WRATH.

Solomon said,
Proverbs 1
7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge:
but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Jesus said,
Matthew 10
28 And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able
to destroy both soul and body in hell.

YOU CANNOT APPRECIATE THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL,
UNLESS YOU FIRST UNDERSTAND THE BAD NEWS.

The bad news is that the world WAS and IS headed
for eternal damnation.

But THE GOOD NEWS is that God had mercy on us, and
sent His Son into the world, that WHOSOEVER would
believe in Him, might not perish, but receive
eternal life.

Most people will reject the salvation offered by God,
and will perish. Jesus said so, but He still holds
out the offer to anyone who would receive it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


Ye have spoken in wisdom, blessed are they whom understand the greater for if man can not suffer a little when God has suffered much for them, how be it they will be humbled enough to accept the offer of salvation. The suffering comes upon mankind because of their pride their sins are reason it comes it simply is Justice. The false prophets shall use the Love card and twist it to deceive and take what is not theirs to take and use it for their own gain, many shall be deceived in coming years even more so than now for their hearts shall harden and their spirits darken and they shall not recognize the truth. When I do miracles again as done in past people shall call me a witch and a magician for some shall be shown before I leave to return as the phoenix with fire in it wings, some miracles shall be shown privately were others shall be public knowledge.

But I promise ye this though at this time no church has the true Gospel of God, there will come a time that Seven Churches will share one doctrine and be the fulfilling of the Seven Churches which shall be guided by the Seven Angels. And when that is fulfilled then shall be the scripture that mine gospel shall be preached unto all nations then end shall come, and in time that is preached the world shall be ruled by the Antichrist and mankind's hearts shall be hardened against mine people and they shall kill mine people and bless are they whom die in mine name for when I return they shall be resurrected.

Now I reveal unto ye a work I am about to do, soon I shall go unto the Seven mine-self and share with them knowledge they had not considered. And they shall be shown power of God so they might believe and listen and the WORD be fulfilled and the Restoration shall see the restructuring of those churches and many shall fall to wayside but many shall also join and those whom remain shall be enlightened and their eyes opened. For if I do not restore mine gospel all would be lost but it is through the mouth of many witness of truth shall the world be given the truth and mine spirit shall be poured upon those in those Seven chosen churches when it be restored and their words shall be mine words.

Events are indeed coming the time of the arising of Antichrist is almost here, he walks now the land in the United kingdom known to me is he and he knows of me, he awaits his time of rule which must come in completion after I have left which sign is darken of sun and the bloody waters ye shall know in that day God has left mankind but let not your heart fail ye I shall soon return for what is mine but it needs be mankind experience what the world is like without influence of mine Light so they may choose good or evil.
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As ye all know their is thousands of versions of the gospel on earth at this time, though they only contain some truth every single one them is twisted and has untruths when I restore the gospel so it can be called 'Gods true Gospel' then the real power of God will flow through those whom are followers of it complete teachings. I will not forsake the sheep of the world whom seek me whom are misled by the corruptions of devils, through many wolfs in sheep's clothes. I shall restore the Gospel before I leave and shall leave behind those with full lamps of oil to guide in the night to come. But atlas the cup which was taken must be given back, then all shall reap as they have sown.
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Yeah....including me...go figure! :-)

Seriously, SOT, I've met your type before and all they did was preach hellfire and brimstone and THAT pushed me away from even wanting to have anything to do with God. Then I met someone who showed me how loving and understanding Jesus was and I confirmed it by reading the gospels...Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
It was then that I wanted to know Him, and ever since, things have been looking up and, now, I walk with Him and will never turn back.
So, what's the point here?
It's simple.
The Bible says, "By their fruits, ye shall know them."
Keep preaching fear, dread, and threats and see how much "fruit" you bear.
On the other hand, much fruit has been borne by the OP of this post and one of his fruits has been me.
Can you show us YOUR fruits, SOT?
Just sayin.....:-)
 Quoting: Stand!


In the early 1700's in America, the nation had sunk
deep into sin. Fornication abounded, drunkenness and
disrespect was the order of the day.
Compared to America today which is as vile and wicked
as Sodom or Gomorrah, 1700's America was absolutely
devout, but THAT America had lost its Christian moorings.

Something happened. An outpouring of the Holy Spirit,
that was known at the time as, the "Great Awakening".

Perhaps the greatest preacher of that era was
Jonathan Edwards.
He preached fire and brimstone. It changed America.

Here is one of his most famous sermons.
"SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD"
[link to www.jonathan-edwards.org]

The "feel good" christianity of today is saving FEW.
The fruits of this Church of Laodicea, are evident
EVERYWHERE.
There is NO true repentence. America is falling
headlong into absolute total moral corruption, and
financial ruin.

Some fruits, huh?

The so-called "fire and brimstome" preaching is
unpleasant to our itching ears today.
That same preaching put an evil nation back on the
narrow path, and if it hadn't we would have been
destroyed long, long ago.

God is Love, but he also is a God of GREAT WRATH.

Solomon said,
Proverbs 1
7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge:
but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Jesus said,
Matthew 10
28 And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able
to destroy both soul and body in hell.

YOU CANNOT APPRECIATE THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL,
UNLESS YOU FIRST UNDERSTAND THE BAD NEWS.

The bad news is that the world WAS and IS headed
for eternal damnation.

But THE GOOD NEWS is that God had mercy on us, and
sent His Son into the world, that WHOSOEVER would
believe in Him, might not perish, but receive
eternal life.

Most people will reject the salvation offered by God,
and will perish. Jesus said so, but He still holds
out the offer to anyone who would receive it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


And look at what hapenned to America.

There is your fruit.

If what Jonathan did was of the LORD..the fruit would have lasted.

Look at it like this..

The Lord wants us to love him with our whole heart..in spirit and in truth. He does not want PRETENDERS..people who really DONT love him but SAY they do..but their hearts are far from him.

Over and over he says this in His word,,he wants REAL love..TRUE love..not forced and fake love..or hypocritical love.

Now..to go around telling to people to LOVE God OR he will burn you alive in horrible tortures..MAY get a few to come a grovelling..but DO THEY REALLY OLOVE GOD?..or are they just SCARED TO DEATH about what he will do to them if they dont?

So any service they give..is always given in DURESS..its been FORCED out of them..on PAIN OF TORTURE.

Its blackmail really..coercian and force..which the fruit of is a hypocritical SELFISH LOVE..fake love..FORCED love..which is NO love.

If you wanted to woo a womans heart...tell me..would you speak gently too her..be kind to her..show her unconditional love and speak life and compliments to her..and thus win her heart and she would TRULY fall in love with you?

OR..would you threaten her..stalk her..tell her you love her with your lips..but treat her like dirt and speak nasty threatening things to her..and tell her if she does NOT marry you before a certain date that you will kidnap her and lock her in a dungeon and torture her and ignore her screams for mercy as you tell her with anger "YOU SHOULD HAVE MARRIED ME WHILE YOU HAD THE CHANCE"?

Which one of these wins a womans heart?

The second way is the work of a pshycopath..a sadistic twisted evil hearted monster..who would be locked up in a loony bin if he actually DID that.

But thats what you are saying God is.

And that also explains why most hellfire christians are hypocrites..because any service they give to God is done in DURESS..not love..their god holds hell over them if they dont bow..he threatens and stalks them..and says to them.."Serve me..or I will torture you in screaming agony forever"..DOOM DEATH AND JUDGMENT..is all they ever hear..and all they ever preach.

Their "Love" of God is selfish..they serve him only to save themselves..and when they think THEY are saved from this horrible doom..they snidley proclaim..with a self rightous selfish cold heart..the same DOOM to everyone else..and they dont care..about anyone but themselves. So long as THEY are safe from the fire..nothing else matters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


Have you read the OLD TESTAMENT?
The children of Israel were perpetually in either
a state of revival or moral degeneracy.
Don't blame Jonathan Edwards for the moral degeneracy
of this vile, wicked generation.

Judgment starts at the House of the Lord.
The preachers who don't preach REPENTENCE FIRST,
or who preach the "feel good" gospel, which has never
to my knowledge darkened America's door,
or who preach the prosperity gospel with God playing
the role of Santa Claus, another new satanic twist,
all these people will answer for the souls they are
leading to perdition.

You have Christianity upside down and backwards.
Christians love God for what HE DID for us at Calvary.
We have NO FEAR at all, of ANYTHING.
We are NO LONGER CONDEMNED,
but those who haven't received the Lord Jesus Christ
have EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD TO FEAR,
because they are already condemned, as Jesus said.
They are bound for the Lake of Fire!!!

That isn't some notion Christians came up with to
fill the pews of their churches by scaring the lost,
it is the WORD OF GOD!

It is a fact, and if you have any unsaved loved ones,
to keep that reality from them, is nothing short of SIN.

I don't know if you are saved or not, but we are to
proclaim the WHOLE COUNSEL of God.
Most importantly is God's Love shown at Calvary,
where He was tortured, crucified, and died a bloody
death, IN OUR PLACE!

Jesus Christ, and Him crucified!

He is our Lord and our God and our Salvation,
but if you leave this world without Him, you are
eternally lost,
and that fact should make ANYONE SHUDDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


More was done for mankind than having our flesh ripped to bone and nailed to the cross. The true atonement was spirit the flesh given in payment was only the payment for flesh but what took place in spirit all shall know come end this shall humble all.

Know now that I descended below all things and have suffered all the torments of every level within eternal Hell and overcame it and taken the keys from Satan, Death holds no power over me nor time man knows not this and soon I shall become whole the Son becometh the Father for time is a infinite Circle. And they whom have came out of the great tribulation in clean garments shall be called my children and I shall give unto them a new world and new heavens in which is prepare for them and teach unto them in my person for I shall dwell with them and give them the knowledge of God and they shall know the mystery of God.

The message for world at this time is to repent for end is night, not much time remains in the hourglass.
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Yeah....including me...go figure! :-)

Seriously, SOT, I've met your type before and all they did was preach hellfire and brimstone and THAT pushed me away from even wanting to have anything to do with God. Then I met someone who showed me how loving and understanding Jesus was and I confirmed it by reading the gospels...Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
It was then that I wanted to know Him, and ever since, things have been looking up and, now, I walk with Him and will never turn back.
So, what's the point here?
It's simple.
The Bible says, "By their fruits, ye shall know them."
Keep preaching fear, dread, and threats and see how much "fruit" you bear.
On the other hand, much fruit has been borne by the OP of this post and one of his fruits has been me.
Can you show us YOUR fruits, SOT?
Just sayin.....:-)
 Quoting: Stand!


In the early 1700's in America, the nation had sunk
deep into sin. Fornication abounded, drunkenness and
disrespect was the order of the day.
Compared to America today which is as vile and wicked
as Sodom or Gomorrah, 1700's America was absolutely
devout, but THAT America had lost its Christian moorings.

Something happened. An outpouring of the Holy Spirit,
that was known at the time as, the "Great Awakening".

Perhaps the greatest preacher of that era was
Jonathan Edwards.
He preached fire and brimstone. It changed America.

Here is one of his most famous sermons.
"SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD"
[link to www.jonathan-edwards.org]

The "feel good" christianity of today is saving FEW.
The fruits of this Church of Laodicea, are evident
EVERYWHERE.
There is NO true repentence. America is falling
headlong into absolute total moral corruption, and
financial ruin.

Some fruits, huh?

The so-called "fire and brimstome" preaching is
unpleasant to our itching ears today.
That same preaching put an evil nation back on the
narrow path, and if it hadn't we would have been
destroyed long, long ago.

God is Love, but he also is a God of GREAT WRATH.

Solomon said,
Proverbs 1
7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge:
but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Jesus said,
Matthew 10
28 And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able
to destroy both soul and body in hell.

YOU CANNOT APPRECIATE THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL,
UNLESS YOU FIRST UNDERSTAND THE BAD NEWS.

The bad news is that the world WAS and IS headed
for eternal damnation.

But THE GOOD NEWS is that God had mercy on us, and
sent His Son into the world, that WHOSOEVER would
believe in Him, might not perish, but receive
eternal life.

Most people will reject the salvation offered by God,
and will perish. Jesus said so, but He still holds
out the offer to anyone who would receive it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


And look at what hapenned to America.

There is your fruit.

If what Jonathan did was of the LORD..the fruit would have lasted.

Look at it like this..

The Lord wants us to love him with our whole heart..in spirit and in truth. He does not want PRETENDERS..people who really DONT love him but SAY they do..but their hearts are far from him.

Over and over he says this in His word,,he wants REAL love..TRUE love..not forced and fake love..or hypocritical love.

Now..to go around telling to people to LOVE God OR he will burn you alive in horrible tortures..MAY get a few to come a grovelling..but DO THEY REALLY OLOVE GOD?..or are they just SCARED TO DEATH about what he will do to them if they dont?

So any service they give..is always given in DURESS..its been FORCED out of them..on PAIN OF TORTURE.

Its blackmail really..coercian and force..which the fruit of is a hypocritical SELFISH LOVE..fake love..FORCED love..which is NO love.

If you wanted to woo a womans heart...tell me..would you speak gently too her..be kind to her..show her unconditional love and speak life and compliments to her..and thus win her heart and she would TRULY fall in love with you?

OR..would you threaten her..stalk her..tell her you love her with your lips..but treat her like dirt and speak nasty threatening things to her..and tell her if she does NOT marry you before a certain date that you will kidnap her and lock her in a dungeon and torture her and ignore her screams for mercy as you tell her with anger "YOU SHOULD HAVE MARRIED ME WHILE YOU HAD THE CHANCE"?

Which one of these wins a womans heart?

The second way is the work of a pshycopath..a sadistic twisted evil hearted monster..who would be locked up in a loony bin if he actually DID that.

But thats what you are saying God is.

And that also explains why most hellfire christians are hypocrites..because any service they give to God is done in DURESS..not love..their god holds hell over them if they dont bow..he threatens and stalks them..and says to them.."Serve me..or I will torture you in screaming agony forever"..DOOM DEATH AND JUDGMENT..is all they ever hear..and all they ever preach.

Their "Love" of God is selfish..they serve him only to save themselves..and when they think THEY are saved from this horrible doom..they snidley proclaim..with a self rightous selfish cold heart..the same DOOM to everyone else..and they dont care..about anyone but themselves. So long as THEY are safe from the fire..nothing else matters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


Have you read the OLD TESTAMENT?
The children of Israel were perpetually in either
a state of revival or moral degeneracy.
Don't blame Jonathan Edwards for the moral degeneracy
of this vile, wicked generation.

Judgment starts at the House of the Lord.
The preachers who don't preach REPENTENCE FIRST,
or who preach the "feel good" gospel, which has never
to my knowledge darkened America's door,
or who preach the prosperity gospel with God playing
the role of Santa Claus, another new satanic twist,
all these people will answer for the souls they are
leading to perdition.

You have Christianity upside down and backwards.
Christians love God for what HE DID for us at Calvary.
We have NO FEAR at all, of ANYTHING.
We are NO LONGER CONDEMNED,
but those who haven't received the Lord Jesus Christ
have EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD TO FEAR,
because they are already condemned, as Jesus said.
They are bound for the Lake of Fire!!!

That isn't some notion Christians came up with to
fill the pews of their churches by scaring the lost,
it is the WORD OF GOD!

It is a fact, and if you have any unsaved loved ones,
to keep that reality from them, is nothing short of SIN.

I don't know if you are saved or not, but we are to
proclaim the WHOLE COUNSEL of God.
Most importantly is God's Love shown at Calvary,
where He was tortured, crucified, and died a bloody
death, IN OUR PLACE!

Jesus Christ, and Him crucified!

He is our Lord and our God and our Salvation,
but if you leave this world without Him, you are
eternally lost,
and that fact should make ANYONE SHUDDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


I DID preach repentance first.

But people wanted to have a reason besides being burnt alive if they didnt. That only brings FALSE repentance.

FORCED love is FAKE love..and if you come to God ONLY because he is going to torture you if you dont..your heart is NOT REALLY IN it,,and he sees that..and God does NOT like fake love.

Yeshuah is coming for his BRIDE..not His terrified blackmailed cowering slave.

If you got a woman to marry you because you told her you would skin her alive if she didnt..tell me..WOULD you really trust her love if she did give in to this and marry you?

She may marry you..but always resent and secretly HATE you..for being such an evil heartles loveless nutter.

And yet you expect to win people the same way..by blackmail and terror and force. Works of DARKNESS..and thus the fruits you see in the church..so much greed..arrogance..pride..selfishness..FEAR..always FEAR FEAR FEAR..and adultery.

WHY??

Because all those people NEVER REPENTED..they just said the right words..and NOTHING changed on the inside..they serve themselves more than God..they do it to save their own backsides..because of FEAR.

God sees all this..look at the endless fruit of hate and snide arguments christians have..always trying to win points and threaten eachother with doom and death..hate and arrogance..is the fruit of FAKE LOVE..which comes with FAKE REPENTANCE.

The Lord wants fruit that will last..not this self rightous greedy arrogant snide fruit the church produces today.

You do NOT know the love of the Lord..you only know the chastisement..yes..he DOES chastise..but he does it in LOVE..not HATE..and when he DOES have to use a rod..it hurts him more than it does us.

If you are going to preach..try honey..it attracts bees a lot better than vinegar...and fruit that will last.
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In the early 1700's in America, the nation had sunk
deep into sin. Fornication abounded, drunkenness and
disrespect was the order of the day.
Compared to America today which is as vile and wicked
as Sodom or Gomorrah, 1700's America was absolutely
devout, but THAT America had lost its Christian moorings.

Something happened. An outpouring of the Holy Spirit,
that was known at the time as, the "Great Awakening".

Perhaps the greatest preacher of that era was
Jonathan Edwards.
He preached fire and brimstone. It changed America.

Here is one of his most famous sermons.
"SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD"
[link to www.jonathan-edwards.org]

The "feel good" christianity of today is saving FEW.
The fruits of this Church of Laodicea, are evident
EVERYWHERE.
There is NO true repentence. America is falling
headlong into absolute total moral corruption, and
financial ruin.

Some fruits, huh?

The so-called "fire and brimstome" preaching is
unpleasant to our itching ears today.
That same preaching put an evil nation back on the
narrow path, and if it hadn't we would have been
destroyed long, long ago.

God is Love, but he also is a God of GREAT WRATH.

Solomon said,
Proverbs 1
7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge:
but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Jesus said,
Matthew 10
28 And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able
to destroy both soul and body in hell.

YOU CANNOT APPRECIATE THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL,
UNLESS YOU FIRST UNDERSTAND THE BAD NEWS.

The bad news is that the world WAS and IS headed
for eternal damnation.

But THE GOOD NEWS is that God had mercy on us, and
sent His Son into the world, that WHOSOEVER would
believe in Him, might not perish, but receive
eternal life.

Most people will reject the salvation offered by God,
and will perish. Jesus said so, but He still holds
out the offer to anyone who would receive it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


And look at what hapenned to America.

There is your fruit.

If what Jonathan did was of the LORD..the fruit would have lasted.

Look at it like this..

The Lord wants us to love him with our whole heart..in spirit and in truth. He does not want PRETENDERS..people who really DONT love him but SAY they do..but their hearts are far from him.

Over and over he says this in His word,,he wants REAL love..TRUE love..not forced and fake love..or hypocritical love.

Now..to go around telling to people to LOVE God OR he will burn you alive in horrible tortures..MAY get a few to come a grovelling..but DO THEY REALLY OLOVE GOD?..or are they just SCARED TO DEATH about what he will do to them if they dont?

So any service they give..is always given in DURESS..its been FORCED out of them..on PAIN OF TORTURE.

Its blackmail really..coercian and force..which the fruit of is a hypocritical SELFISH LOVE..fake love..FORCED love..which is NO love.

If you wanted to woo a womans heart...tell me..would you speak gently too her..be kind to her..show her unconditional love and speak life and compliments to her..and thus win her heart and she would TRULY fall in love with you?

OR..would you threaten her..stalk her..tell her you love her with your lips..but treat her like dirt and speak nasty threatening things to her..and tell her if she does NOT marry you before a certain date that you will kidnap her and lock her in a dungeon and torture her and ignore her screams for mercy as you tell her with anger "YOU SHOULD HAVE MARRIED ME WHILE YOU HAD THE CHANCE"?

Which one of these wins a womans heart?

The second way is the work of a pshycopath..a sadistic twisted evil hearted monster..who would be locked up in a loony bin if he actually DID that.

But thats what you are saying God is.

And that also explains why most hellfire christians are hypocrites..because any service they give to God is done in DURESS..not love..their god holds hell over them if they dont bow..he threatens and stalks them..and says to them.."Serve me..or I will torture you in screaming agony forever"..DOOM DEATH AND JUDGMENT..is all they ever hear..and all they ever preach.

Their "Love" of God is selfish..they serve him only to save themselves..and when they think THEY are saved from this horrible doom..they snidley proclaim..with a self rightous selfish cold heart..the same DOOM to everyone else..and they dont care..about anyone but themselves. So long as THEY are safe from the fire..nothing else matters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


Have you read the OLD TESTAMENT?
The children of Israel were perpetually in either
a state of revival or moral degeneracy.
Don't blame Jonathan Edwards for the moral degeneracy
of this vile, wicked generation.

Judgment starts at the House of the Lord.
The preachers who don't preach REPENTENCE FIRST,
or who preach the "feel good" gospel, which has never
to my knowledge darkened America's door,
or who preach the prosperity gospel with God playing
the role of Santa Claus, another new satanic twist,
all these people will answer for the souls they are
leading to perdition.

You have Christianity upside down and backwards.
Christians love God for what HE DID for us at Calvary.
We have NO FEAR at all, of ANYTHING.
We are NO LONGER CONDEMNED,
but those who haven't received the Lord Jesus Christ
have EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD TO FEAR,
because they are already condemned, as Jesus said.
They are bound for the Lake of Fire!!!

That isn't some notion Christians came up with to
fill the pews of their churches by scaring the lost,
it is the WORD OF GOD!

It is a fact, and if you have any unsaved loved ones,
to keep that reality from them, is nothing short of SIN.

I don't know if you are saved or not, but we are to
proclaim the WHOLE COUNSEL of God.
Most importantly is God's Love shown at Calvary,
where He was tortured, crucified, and died a bloody
death, IN OUR PLACE!

Jesus Christ, and Him crucified!

He is our Lord and our God and our Salvation,
but if you leave this world without Him, you are
eternally lost,
and that fact should make ANYONE SHUDDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


I DID preach repentance first.

But people wanted to have a reason besides being burnt alive if they didnt. That only brings FALSE repentance.

FORCED love is FAKE love..and if you come to God ONLY because he is going to torture you if you dont..your heart is NOT REALLY IN it,,and he sees that..and God does NOT like fake love.

Yeshuah is coming for his BRIDE..not His terrified blackmailed cowering slave.

If you got a woman to marry you because you told her you would skin her alive if she didnt..tell me..WOULD you really trust her love if she did give in to this and marry you?

She may marry you..but always resent and secretly HATE you..for being such an evil heartles loveless nutter.

And yet you expect to win people the same way..by blackmail and terror and force. Works of DARKNESS..and thus the fruits you see in the church..so much greed..arrogance..pride..selfishness..FEAR..always FEAR FEAR FEAR..and adultery.

WHY??

Because all those people NEVER REPENTED..they just said the right words..and NOTHING changed on the inside..they serve themselves more than God..they do it to save their own backsides..because of FEAR.

God sees all this..look at the endless fruit of hate and snide arguments christians have..always trying to win points and threaten eachother with doom and death..hate and arrogance..is the fruit of FAKE LOVE..which comes with FAKE REPENTANCE.

The Lord wants fruit that will last..not this self rightous greedy arrogant snide fruit the church produces today.

You do NOT know the love of the Lord..you only know the chastisement..yes..he DOES chastise..but he does it in LOVE..not HATE..and when he DOES have to use a rod..it hurts him more than it does us.

If you are going to preach..try honey..it attracts bees a lot better than vinegar...and fruit that will last.
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Your in same boat as those people yourself, still need to repent will find out in coming years why. Ye speak for yourself not the Heavens and are considered breaking the law of false witnessing. In eyes of heaven ye are evil and at the judgment shall be shown why.
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OK, let's hear how Jesus preached to the lost.
I was going to go through all four gospels, but
I didn't have to go beyond the fifth chapter of Matthew.
You may not like it, but Jesus USED VINEGAR on the lost
FIRST, NOT HONEY.
You are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG to think that you can do it
better than Jesus did.
The old time preachers had the humility to KNOW they
couldn't improve on Jesus.

Matthew 1
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees
come to his baptism, he said unto them,
O GENERATION OF VIPERS,
who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

9 And think not to say within yourselves,
We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you,
that God is able of these stones
to raise up children unto Abraham.

10 And now also the axe is laid unto the
root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth
not forth good fruit is hewn down, and
CAST INTO THE FIRE.

Matthew 5
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness
shall exceed the righteousness of the
scribes and Pharisees,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time,
Thou shalt not kill;
and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his
brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:
and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca,
shall be in danger of the council:
but WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY, THOU FOOL,
SHALL BE IN DANGER OF HELLFIRE
.

29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out,
and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee
that one of thy members should perish,
AND NOT THAT THY WHOLE BODY SHOULD BE CAST INTO HELL.

30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off,
and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee
that one of thy members should perish,
AND NOT THAT THY WHOLE BODY SHOULD BE CAST INTO HELL.
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Predictions... predictions... that will never, EVER, become true.
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Not true. I'm here for the end times, and I dont have much longer myself, you shall see it, all of you shall, it's already commencing and the players are on the board.
It shall be worse than you can possibly imagine, that's what you get with an operating system based on lies, theft and murder.
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OK, let's hear how Jesus preached to the lost.
I was going to go through all four gospels, but
I didn't have to go beyond the fifth chapter of Matthew.
You may not like it, but Jesus USED VINEGAR on the lost
FIRST, NOT HONEY.
You are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG to think that you can do it
better than Jesus did.
The old time preachers had the humility to KNOW they
couldn't improve on Jesus.

Matthew 1
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees
come to his baptism, he said unto them,
O GENERATION OF VIPERS,
who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

9 And think not to say within yourselves,
We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you,
that God is able of these stones
to raise up children unto Abraham.

10 And now also the axe is laid unto the
root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth
not forth good fruit is hewn down, and
CAST INTO THE FIRE.

Matthew 5
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness
shall exceed the righteousness of the
scribes and Pharisees,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time,
Thou shalt not kill;
and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his
brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:
and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca,
shall be in danger of the council:
but WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY, THOU FOOL,
SHALL BE IN DANGER OF HELLFIRE
.

29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out,
and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee
that one of thy members should perish,
AND NOT THAT THY WHOLE BODY SHOULD BE CAST INTO HELL.

30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off,
and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee
that one of thy members should perish,
AND NOT THAT THY WHOLE BODY SHOULD BE CAST INTO HELL.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34387830


He was talking to the RELIGIOUS PHARISEES when he called them vipers...the ones who USED VINEGAR to control the people with fear and threats..like you are...NOT the people in general..CONTEXT!

THEn he turned to the people to WARN them NOT to follow the example OF the religious ones or they TOO would share their fate.

READ it again.
ParadigmShift
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Predictions... predictions... that will never, EVER, become true.
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Not true. I'm here for the end times, and I dont have much longer myself, you shall see it, all of you shall, it's already commencing and the players are on the board.
It shall be worse than you can possibly imagine, that's what you get with an operating system based on lies, theft and murder.
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They are many of us that have been called. Just as in 2 ACTS his spirit has been spilled forth.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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SOT hijacked a good thread because everyone would just ignore his. Go start your own thread SOT and see how far it gets!
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In the early 1700's in America, the nation had sunk
deep into sin. Fornication abounded, drunkenness and
disrespect was the order of the day.
Compared to America today which is as vile and wicked
as Sodom or Gomorrah, 1700's America was absolutely
devout, but THAT America had lost its Christian moorings.

Something happened. An outpouring of the Holy Spirit,
that was known at the time as, the "Great Awakening".

Perhaps the greatest preacher of that era was
Jonathan Edwards.
He preached fire and brimstone. It changed America.

Here is one of his most famous sermons.
"SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD"
[link to www.jonathan-edwards.org]

The "feel good" christianity of today is saving FEW.
The fruits of this Church of Laodicea, are evident
EVERYWHERE.
There is NO true repentence. America is falling
headlong into absolute total moral corruption, and
financial ruin.

Some fruits, huh?

The so-called "fire and brimstome" preaching is
unpleasant to our itching ears today.
That same preaching put an evil nation back on the
narrow path, and if it hadn't we would have been
destroyed long, long ago.

God is Love, but he also is a God of GREAT WRATH.

Solomon said,
Proverbs 1
7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge:
but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Jesus said,
Matthew 10
28 And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able
to destroy both soul and body in hell.

YOU CANNOT APPRECIATE THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL,
UNLESS YOU FIRST UNDERSTAND THE BAD NEWS.

The bad news is that the world WAS and IS headed
for eternal damnation.

But THE GOOD NEWS is that God had mercy on us, and
sent His Son into the world, that WHOSOEVER would
believe in Him, might not perish, but receive
eternal life.

Most people will reject the salvation offered by God,
and will perish. Jesus said so, but He still holds
out the offer to anyone who would receive it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


And look at what hapenned to America.

There is your fruit.

If what Jonathan did was of the LORD..the fruit would have lasted.

Look at it like this..

The Lord wants us to love him with our whole heart..in spirit and in truth. He does not want PRETENDERS..people who really DONT love him but SAY they do..but their hearts are far from him.

Over and over he says this in His word,,he wants REAL love..TRUE love..not forced and fake love..or hypocritical love.

Now..to go around telling to people to LOVE God OR he will burn you alive in horrible tortures..MAY get a few to come a grovelling..but DO THEY REALLY OLOVE GOD?..or are they just SCARED TO DEATH about what he will do to them if they dont?

So any service they give..is always given in DURESS..its been FORCED out of them..on PAIN OF TORTURE.

Its blackmail really..coercian and force..which the fruit of is a hypocritical SELFISH LOVE..fake love..FORCED love..which is NO love.

If you wanted to woo a womans heart...tell me..would you speak gently too her..be kind to her..show her unconditional love and speak life and compliments to her..and thus win her heart and she would TRULY fall in love with you?

OR..would you threaten her..stalk her..tell her you love her with your lips..but treat her like dirt and speak nasty threatening things to her..and tell her if she does NOT marry you before a certain date that you will kidnap her and lock her in a dungeon and torture her and ignore her screams for mercy as you tell her with anger "YOU SHOULD HAVE MARRIED ME WHILE YOU HAD THE CHANCE"?

Which one of these wins a womans heart?

The second way is the work of a pshycopath..a sadistic twisted evil hearted monster..who would be locked up in a loony bin if he actually DID that.

But thats what you are saying God is.

And that also explains why most hellfire christians are hypocrites..because any service they give to God is done in DURESS..not love..their god holds hell over them if they dont bow..he threatens and stalks them..and says to them.."Serve me..or I will torture you in screaming agony forever"..DOOM DEATH AND JUDGMENT..is all they ever hear..and all they ever preach.

Their "Love" of God is selfish..they serve him only to save themselves..and when they think THEY are saved from this horrible doom..they snidley proclaim..with a self rightous selfish cold heart..the same DOOM to everyone else..and they dont care..about anyone but themselves. So long as THEY are safe from the fire..nothing else matters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


Have you read the OLD TESTAMENT?
The children of Israel were perpetually in either
a state of revival or moral degeneracy.
Don't blame Jonathan Edwards for the moral degeneracy
of this vile, wicked generation.

Judgment starts at the House of the Lord.
The preachers who don't preach REPENTENCE FIRST,
or who preach the "feel good" gospel, which has never
to my knowledge darkened America's door,
or who preach the prosperity gospel with God playing
the role of Santa Claus, another new satanic twist,
all these people will answer for the souls they are
leading to perdition.

You have Christianity upside down and backwards.
Christians love God for what HE DID for us at Calvary.
We have NO FEAR at all, of ANYTHING.
We are NO LONGER CONDEMNED,
but those who haven't received the Lord Jesus Christ
have EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD TO FEAR,
because they are already condemned, as Jesus said.
They are bound for the Lake of Fire!!!

That isn't some notion Christians came up with to
fill the pews of their churches by scaring the lost,
it is the WORD OF GOD!

It is a fact, and if you have any unsaved loved ones,
to keep that reality from them, is nothing short of SIN.

I don't know if you are saved or not, but we are to
proclaim the WHOLE COUNSEL of God.
Most importantly is God's Love shown at Calvary,
where He was tortured, crucified, and died a bloody
death, IN OUR PLACE!

Jesus Christ, and Him crucified!

He is our Lord and our God and our Salvation,
but if you leave this world without Him, you are
eternally lost,
and that fact should make ANYONE SHUDDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


I DID preach repentance first.

But people wanted to have a reason besides being burnt alive if they didnt. That only brings FALSE repentance.

FORCED love is FAKE love..and if you come to God ONLY because he is going to torture you if you dont..your heart is NOT REALLY IN it,,and he sees that..and God does NOT like fake love.

Yeshuah is coming for his BRIDE..not His terrified blackmailed cowering slave.

If you got a woman to marry you because you told her you would skin her alive if she didnt..tell me..WOULD you really trust her love if she did give in to this and marry you?

She may marry you..but always resent and secretly HATE you..for being such an evil heartles loveless nutter.

And yet you expect to win people the same way..by blackmail and terror and force. Works of DARKNESS..and thus the fruits you see in the church..so much greed..arrogance..pride..selfishness..FEAR..always FEAR FEAR FEAR..and adultery.

WHY??

Because all those people NEVER REPENTED..they just said the right words..and NOTHING changed on the inside..they serve themselves more than God..they do it to save their own backsides..because of FEAR.

God sees all this..look at the endless fruit of hate and snide arguments christians have..always trying to win points and threaten eachother with doom and death..hate and arrogance..is the fruit of FAKE LOVE..which comes with FAKE REPENTANCE.

The Lord wants fruit that will last..not this self rightous greedy arrogant snide fruit the church produces today.

You do NOT know the love of the Lord..you only know the chastisement..yes..he DOES chastise..but he does it in LOVE..not HATE..and when he DOES have to use a rod..it hurts him more than it does us.

If you are going to preach..try honey..it attracts bees a lot better than vinegar...and fruit that will last.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


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SOT hijacked a good thread because everyone would just ignore his. Go start your own thread SOT and see how far it gets!
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A day shall come that all whom has spoken against shall know whom it was against, I pray before that day all of ye have repented and prayed for forgiveness. I responded to they whom responded to me, I was about to leave thread but the spirit said speak. Ye whom have spoken against me shall not be counted as mine sheep and woe be it unto ye in future to learn lessons of humility, heaven shall not reside with the prideful christian. A good thread is not a thread which is misleading the sheep for vision was not of God but give of the adversary even that old serpent Satan, the Op has much pride for sees himself wise and in position to teach but woe unto those whom seek to be teachers for they shall be held accountable for every soul misled. I saith unto all repent lest what is written be completely fulfilled.
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Predictions... predictions... that will never, EVER, become true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34248788


Not true. I'm here for the end times, and I dont have much longer myself, you shall see it, all of you shall, it's already commencing and the players are on the board.
It shall be worse than you can possibly imagine, that's what you get with an operating system based on lies, theft and murder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


They are many of us that have been called. Just as in 2 ACTS his spirit has been spilled forth.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


The spirit of that scripture does not come forth until the restoration of the Seven churches, people are listening unto evil spirits whom pretend to be Holy. Christian shall learn a hard lesson in future that even they are misled and God is not happy with most of them. Some whom are atheist shall enter the kingdom of heaven before some whom are christian will.
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OK, let's hear how Jesus preached to the lost.
I was going to go through all four gospels, but
I didn't have to go beyond the fifth chapter of Matthew.
You may not like it, but Jesus USED VINEGAR on the lost
FIRST, NOT HONEY.
You are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG to think that you can do it
better than Jesus did.
The old time preachers had the humility to KNOW they
couldn't improve on Jesus.

Matthew 1
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees
come to his baptism, he said unto them,
O GENERATION OF VIPERS,
who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

9 And think not to say within yourselves,
We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you,
that God is able of these stones
to raise up children unto Abraham.

10 And now also the axe is laid unto the
root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth
not forth good fruit is hewn down, and
CAST INTO THE FIRE.

Matthew 5
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness
shall exceed the righteousness of the
scribes and Pharisees,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time,
Thou shalt not kill;
and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his
brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:
and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca,
shall be in danger of the council:
but WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY, THOU FOOL,
SHALL BE IN DANGER OF HELLFIRE
.

29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out,
and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee
that one of thy members should perish,
AND NOT THAT THY WHOLE BODY SHOULD BE CAST INTO HELL.

30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off,
and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee
that one of thy members should perish,
AND NOT THAT THY WHOLE BODY SHOULD BE CAST INTO HELL.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34387830


He was talking to the RELIGIOUS PHARISEES when he called them vipers...the ones who USED VINEGAR to control the people with fear and threats..like you are...NOT the people in general..CONTEXT!

THEn he turned to the people to WARN them NOT to follow the example OF the religious ones or they TOO would share their fate.

READ it again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17104373


It was also to teach to repent lest the wrath come upon ye, which if ye don't repent yourself it will come upon ye soon also. This generation of today is a generation of vipers, even your skin is scales like the snake and hair like beasts, fallen fallen are mankind and Babylon shall fall and take mankind with her. It was about pride that Christians have pride and those whom are with pride though they follow the laws and good works shall still fall. In end days I shall bring forth prophets with power whom shall speak harsher things unto mankind then those in old testament have and they shall be hated of the nations for the truth.
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In the early 1700's in America, the nation had sunk
deep into sin. Fornication abounded, drunkenness and
disrespect was the order of the day.
Compared to America today which is as vile and wicked
as Sodom or Gomorrah, 1700's America was absolutely
devout, but THAT America had lost its Christian moorings.

Something happened. An outpouring of the Holy Spirit,
that was known at the time as, the "Great Awakening".

Perhaps the greatest preacher of that era was
Jonathan Edwards.
He preached fire and brimstone. It changed America.

Here is one of his most famous sermons.
"SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD"
[link to www.jonathan-edwards.org]

The "feel good" christianity of today is saving FEW.
The fruits of this Church of Laodicea, are evident
EVERYWHERE.
There is NO true repentence. America is falling
headlong into absolute total moral corruption, and
financial ruin.

Some fruits, huh?

The so-called "fire and brimstome" preaching is
unpleasant to our itching ears today.
That same preaching put an evil nation back on the
narrow path, and if it hadn't we would have been
destroyed long, long ago.

God is Love, but he also is a God of GREAT WRATH.

Solomon said,
Proverbs 1
7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge:
but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Jesus said,
Matthew 10
28 And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able
to destroy both soul and body in hell.

YOU CANNOT APPRECIATE THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL,
UNLESS YOU FIRST UNDERSTAND THE BAD NEWS.

The bad news is that the world WAS and IS headed
for eternal damnation.

But THE GOOD NEWS is that God had mercy on us, and
sent His Son into the world, that WHOSOEVER would
believe in Him, might not perish, but receive
eternal life.

Most people will reject the salvation offered by God,
and will perish. Jesus said so, but He still holds
out the offer to anyone who would receive it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


And look at what hapenned to America.

There is your fruit.

If what Jonathan did was of the LORD..the fruit would have lasted.

Look at it like this..

The Lord wants us to love him with our whole heart..in spirit and in truth. He does not want PRETENDERS..people who really DONT love him but SAY they do..but their hearts are far from him.

Over and over he says this in His word,,he wants REAL love..TRUE love..not forced and fake love..or hypocritical love.

Now..to go around telling to people to LOVE God OR he will burn you alive in horrible tortures..MAY get a few to come a grovelling..but DO THEY REALLY OLOVE GOD?..or are they just SCARED TO DEATH about what he will do to them if they dont?

So any service they give..is always given in DURESS..its been FORCED out of them..on PAIN OF TORTURE.

Its blackmail really..coercian and force..which the fruit of is a hypocritical SELFISH LOVE..fake love..FORCED love..which is NO love.

If you wanted to woo a womans heart...tell me..would you speak gently too her..be kind to her..show her unconditional love and speak life and compliments to her..and thus win her heart and she would TRULY fall in love with you?

OR..would you threaten her..stalk her..tell her you love her with your lips..but treat her like dirt and speak nasty threatening things to her..and tell her if she does NOT marry you before a certain date that you will kidnap her and lock her in a dungeon and torture her and ignore her screams for mercy as you tell her with anger "YOU SHOULD HAVE MARRIED ME WHILE YOU HAD THE CHANCE"?

Which one of these wins a womans heart?

The second way is the work of a pshycopath..a sadistic twisted evil hearted monster..who would be locked up in a loony bin if he actually DID that.

But thats what you are saying God is.

And that also explains why most hellfire christians are hypocrites..because any service they give to God is done in DURESS..not love..their god holds hell over them if they dont bow..he threatens and stalks them..and says to them.."Serve me..or I will torture you in screaming agony forever"..DOOM DEATH AND JUDGMENT..is all they ever hear..and all they ever preach.

Their "Love" of God is selfish..they serve him only to save themselves..and when they think THEY are saved from this horrible doom..they snidley proclaim..with a self rightous selfish cold heart..the same DOOM to everyone else..and they dont care..about anyone but themselves. So long as THEY are safe from the fire..nothing else matters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


Have you read the OLD TESTAMENT?
The children of Israel were perpetually in either
a state of revival or moral degeneracy.
Don't blame Jonathan Edwards for the moral degeneracy
of this vile, wicked generation.

Judgment starts at the House of the Lord.
The preachers who don't preach REPENTENCE FIRST,
or who preach the "feel good" gospel, which has never
to my knowledge darkened America's door,
or who preach the prosperity gospel with God playing
the role of Santa Claus, another new satanic twist,
all these people will answer for the souls they are
leading to perdition.

You have Christianity upside down and backwards.
Christians love God for what HE DID for us at Calvary.
We have NO FEAR at all, of ANYTHING.
We are NO LONGER CONDEMNED,
but those who haven't received the Lord Jesus Christ
have EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD TO FEAR,
because they are already condemned, as Jesus said.
They are bound for the Lake of Fire!!!

That isn't some notion Christians came up with to
fill the pews of their churches by scaring the lost,
it is the WORD OF GOD!

It is a fact, and if you have any unsaved loved ones,
to keep that reality from them, is nothing short of SIN.

I don't know if you are saved or not, but we are to
proclaim the WHOLE COUNSEL of God.
Most importantly is God's Love shown at Calvary,
where He was tortured, crucified, and died a bloody
death, IN OUR PLACE!

Jesus Christ, and Him crucified!

He is our Lord and our God and our Salvation,
but if you leave this world without Him, you are
eternally lost,
and that fact should make ANYONE SHUDDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


I DID preach repentance first.

But people wanted to have a reason besides being burnt alive if they didnt. That only brings FALSE repentance.

FORCED love is FAKE love..and if you come to God ONLY because he is going to torture you if you dont..your heart is NOT REALLY IN it,,and he sees that..and God does NOT like fake love.

Yeshuah is coming for his BRIDE..not His terrified blackmailed cowering slave.

If you got a woman to marry you because you told her you would skin her alive if she didnt..tell me..WOULD you really trust her love if she did give in to this and marry you?

She may marry you..but always resent and secretly HATE you..for being such an evil heartles loveless nutter.

And yet you expect to win people the same way..by blackmail and terror and force. Works of DARKNESS..and thus the fruits you see in the church..so much greed..arrogance..pride..selfishness..FEAR..always FEAR FEAR FEAR..and adultery.

WHY??

Because all those people NEVER REPENTED..they just said the right words..and NOTHING changed on the inside..they serve themselves more than God..they do it to save their own backsides..because of FEAR.

God sees all this..look at the endless fruit of hate and snide arguments christians have..always trying to win points and threaten eachother with doom and death..hate and arrogance..is the fruit of FAKE LOVE..which comes with FAKE REPENTANCE.

The Lord wants fruit that will last..not this self rightous greedy arrogant snide fruit the church produces today.

You do NOT know the love of the Lord..you only know the chastisement..yes..he DOES chastise..but he does it in LOVE..not HATE..and when he DOES have to use a rod..it hurts him more than it does us.

If you are going to preach..try honey..it attracts bees a lot better than vinegar...and fruit that will last.
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So at this point, you believe there's no such thing as eternal torment in hell?
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And look at what hapenned to America.

There is your fruit.

If what Jonathan did was of the LORD..the fruit would have lasted.

Look at it like this..

The Lord wants us to love him with our whole heart..in spirit and in truth. He does not want PRETENDERS..people who really DONT love him but SAY they do..but their hearts are far from him.

Over and over he says this in His word,,he wants REAL love..TRUE love..not forced and fake love..or hypocritical love.

Now..to go around telling to people to LOVE God OR he will burn you alive in horrible tortures..MAY get a few to come a grovelling..but DO THEY REALLY OLOVE GOD?..or are they just SCARED TO DEATH about what he will do to them if they dont?

So any service they give..is always given in DURESS..its been FORCED out of them..on PAIN OF TORTURE.

Its blackmail really..coercian and force..which the fruit of is a hypocritical SELFISH LOVE..fake love..FORCED love..which is NO love.

If you wanted to woo a womans heart...tell me..would you speak gently too her..be kind to her..show her unconditional love and speak life and compliments to her..and thus win her heart and she would TRULY fall in love with you?

OR..would you threaten her..stalk her..tell her you love her with your lips..but treat her like dirt and speak nasty threatening things to her..and tell her if she does NOT marry you before a certain date that you will kidnap her and lock her in a dungeon and torture her and ignore her screams for mercy as you tell her with anger "YOU SHOULD HAVE MARRIED ME WHILE YOU HAD THE CHANCE"?

Which one of these wins a womans heart?

The second way is the work of a pshycopath..a sadistic twisted evil hearted monster..who would be locked up in a loony bin if he actually DID that.

But thats what you are saying God is.

And that also explains why most hellfire christians are hypocrites..because any service they give to God is done in DURESS..not love..their god holds hell over them if they dont bow..he threatens and stalks them..and says to them.."Serve me..or I will torture you in screaming agony forever"..DOOM DEATH AND JUDGMENT..is all they ever hear..and all they ever preach.

Their "Love" of God is selfish..they serve him only to save themselves..and when they think THEY are saved from this horrible doom..they snidley proclaim..with a self rightous selfish cold heart..the same DOOM to everyone else..and they dont care..about anyone but themselves. So long as THEY are safe from the fire..nothing else matters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


Have you read the OLD TESTAMENT?
The children of Israel were perpetually in either
a state of revival or moral degeneracy.
Don't blame Jonathan Edwards for the moral degeneracy
of this vile, wicked generation.

Judgment starts at the House of the Lord.
The preachers who don't preach REPENTENCE FIRST,
or who preach the "feel good" gospel, which has never
to my knowledge darkened America's door,
or who preach the prosperity gospel with God playing
the role of Santa Claus, another new satanic twist,
all these people will answer for the souls they are
leading to perdition.

You have Christianity upside down and backwards.
Christians love God for what HE DID for us at Calvary.
We have NO FEAR at all, of ANYTHING.
We are NO LONGER CONDEMNED,
but those who haven't received the Lord Jesus Christ
have EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD TO FEAR,
because they are already condemned, as Jesus said.
They are bound for the Lake of Fire!!!

That isn't some notion Christians came up with to
fill the pews of their churches by scaring the lost,
it is the WORD OF GOD!

It is a fact, and if you have any unsaved loved ones,
to keep that reality from them, is nothing short of SIN.

I don't know if you are saved or not, but we are to
proclaim the WHOLE COUNSEL of God.
Most importantly is God's Love shown at Calvary,
where He was tortured, crucified, and died a bloody
death, IN OUR PLACE!

Jesus Christ, and Him crucified!

He is our Lord and our God and our Salvation,
but if you leave this world without Him, you are
eternally lost,
and that fact should make ANYONE SHUDDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


I DID preach repentance first.

But people wanted to have a reason besides being burnt alive if they didnt. That only brings FALSE repentance.

FORCED love is FAKE love..and if you come to God ONLY because he is going to torture you if you dont..your heart is NOT REALLY IN it,,and he sees that..and God does NOT like fake love.

Yeshuah is coming for his BRIDE..not His terrified blackmailed cowering slave.

If you got a woman to marry you because you told her you would skin her alive if she didnt..tell me..WOULD you really trust her love if she did give in to this and marry you?

She may marry you..but always resent and secretly HATE you..for being such an evil heartles loveless nutter.

And yet you expect to win people the same way..by blackmail and terror and force. Works of DARKNESS..and thus the fruits you see in the church..so much greed..arrogance..pride..selfishness..FEAR..always FEAR FEAR FEAR..and adultery.

WHY??

Because all those people NEVER REPENTED..they just said the right words..and NOTHING changed on the inside..they serve themselves more than God..they do it to save their own backsides..because of FEAR.

God sees all this..look at the endless fruit of hate and snide arguments christians have..always trying to win points and threaten eachother with doom and death..hate and arrogance..is the fruit of FAKE LOVE..which comes with FAKE REPENTANCE.

The Lord wants fruit that will last..not this self rightous greedy arrogant snide fruit the church produces today.

You do NOT know the love of the Lord..you only know the chastisement..yes..he DOES chastise..but he does it in LOVE..not HATE..and when he DOES have to use a rod..it hurts him more than it does us.

If you are going to preach..try honey..it attracts bees a lot better than vinegar...and fruit that will last.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


So at this point, you believe there's no such thing as eternal torment in hell?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34278775


If You serve God out of FEAR because he will burn you alive forever..you are NOT loving HIM..you are only loving yourself..because every word you say..and thing you do..is NOT done out of LOVE for him,,which is what he requires..its done ONLY to save your own backside from the flames.

If that is your main focus and motivation..you have not had a revelation of His grace as yet.

You will though.

Not too long ago..bout three years ago..I too went around screaming out doom and death and torment. I didnt see anyone respond..and those that did..didnt last long. their HEART was not in it because they ONLY "Repented" as an act of self preservation...NOT because they actually LOVED the lord with all the heart and all their soul and all their strength..AS he requires.

If yu are serving God out of fear...you are doing it for the WRONG reason..and GOD KNOWS the heart..he knows if you really LOVE Him.

And he is not a blackmailer..so why keep using blackmail to try to win people?

Thats what the pharisees were so good at. never GOOD news..only BAD.
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Have you read the OLD TESTAMENT?
The children of Israel were perpetually in either
a state of revival or moral degeneracy.
Don't blame Jonathan Edwards for the moral degeneracy
of this vile, wicked generation.

Judgment starts at the House of the Lord.
The preachers who don't preach REPENTENCE FIRST,
or who preach the "feel good" gospel, which has never
to my knowledge darkened America's door,
or who preach the prosperity gospel with God playing
the role of Santa Claus, another new satanic twist,
all these people will answer for the souls they are
leading to perdition.

You have Christianity upside down and backwards.
Christians love God for what HE DID for us at Calvary.
We have NO FEAR at all, of ANYTHING.
We are NO LONGER CONDEMNED,
but those who haven't received the Lord Jesus Christ
have EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD TO FEAR,
because they are already condemned, as Jesus said.
They are bound for the Lake of Fire!!!

That isn't some notion Christians came up with to
fill the pews of their churches by scaring the lost,
it is the WORD OF GOD!

It is a fact, and if you have any unsaved loved ones,
to keep that reality from them, is nothing short of SIN.

I don't know if you are saved or not, but we are to
proclaim the WHOLE COUNSEL of God.
Most importantly is God's Love shown at Calvary,
where He was tortured, crucified, and died a bloody
death, IN OUR PLACE!

Jesus Christ, and Him crucified!

He is our Lord and our God and our Salvation,
but if you leave this world without Him, you are
eternally lost,
and that fact should make ANYONE SHUDDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


I DID preach repentance first.

But people wanted to have a reason besides being burnt alive if they didnt. That only brings FALSE repentance.

FORCED love is FAKE love..and if you come to God ONLY because he is going to torture you if you dont..your heart is NOT REALLY IN it,,and he sees that..and God does NOT like fake love.

Yeshuah is coming for his BRIDE..not His terrified blackmailed cowering slave.

If you got a woman to marry you because you told her you would skin her alive if she didnt..tell me..WOULD you really trust her love if she did give in to this and marry you?

She may marry you..but always resent and secretly HATE you..for being such an evil heartles loveless nutter.

And yet you expect to win people the same way..by blackmail and terror and force. Works of DARKNESS..and thus the fruits you see in the church..so much greed..arrogance..pride..selfishness..FEAR..always FEAR FEAR FEAR..and adultery.

WHY??

Because all those people NEVER REPENTED..they just said the right words..and NOTHING changed on the inside..they serve themselves more than God..they do it to save their own backsides..because of FEAR.

God sees all this..look at the endless fruit of hate and snide arguments christians have..always trying to win points and threaten eachother with doom and death..hate and arrogance..is the fruit of FAKE LOVE..which comes with FAKE REPENTANCE.

The Lord wants fruit that will last..not this self rightous greedy arrogant snide fruit the church produces today.

You do NOT know the love of the Lord..you only know the chastisement..yes..he DOES chastise..but he does it in LOVE..not HATE..and when he DOES have to use a rod..it hurts him more than it does us.

If you are going to preach..try honey..it attracts bees a lot better than vinegar...and fruit that will last.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


So at this point, you believe there's no such thing as eternal torment in hell?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34278775


If You serve God out of FEAR because he will burn you alive forever..you are NOT loving HIM..you are only loving yourself..because every word you say..and thing you do..is NOT done out of LOVE for him,,which is what he requires..its done ONLY to save your own backside from the flames.

If that is your main focus and motivation..you have not had a revelation of His grace as yet.

You will though.

Not too long ago..bout three years ago..I too went around screaming out doom and death and torment. I didnt see anyone respond..and those that did..didnt last long. their HEART was not in it because they ONLY "Repented" as an act of self preservation...NOT because they actually LOVED the lord with all the heart and all their soul and all their strength..AS he requires.

If yu are serving God out of fear...you are doing it for the WRONG reason..and GOD KNOWS the heart..he knows if you really LOVE Him.

And he is not a blackmailer..so why keep using blackmail to try to win people?

Thats what the pharisees were so good at. never GOOD news..only BAD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17104373


You like to twist peoples words, he not saying he serving God out of fear he pointing out that harsh words are used to save souls and that your newager approach is not going to save souls because you dont understand cause have pride. Fact is all those in Heaven even though they Love God also Fear God.

Fear of God is respect of Gods power, those whom don't fear God are with pride and arrogance. the world is evil and mankind shall reap as they have sown, great shall be the mourning in coming years and what ye think is hard that ye been through is nothing to what you will be going through soon.
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I DID preach repentance first.

But people wanted to have a reason besides being burnt alive if they didnt. That only brings FALSE repentance.

FORCED love is FAKE love..and if you come to God ONLY because he is going to torture you if you dont..your heart is NOT REALLY IN it,,and he sees that..and God does NOT like fake love.

Yeshuah is coming for his BRIDE..not His terrified blackmailed cowering slave.

If you got a woman to marry you because you told her you would skin her alive if she didnt..tell me..WOULD you really trust her love if she did give in to this and marry you?

She may marry you..but always resent and secretly HATE you..for being such an evil heartles loveless nutter.

And yet you expect to win people the same way..by blackmail and terror and force. Works of DARKNESS..and thus the fruits you see in the church..so much greed..arrogance..pride..selfishness..FEAR..always FEAR FEAR FEAR..and adultery.

WHY??

Because all those people NEVER REPENTED..they just said the right words..and NOTHING changed on the inside..they serve themselves more than God..they do it to save their own backsides..because of FEAR.

God sees all this..look at the endless fruit of hate and snide arguments christians have..always trying to win points and threaten eachother with doom and death..hate and arrogance..is the fruit of FAKE LOVE..which comes with FAKE REPENTANCE.

The Lord wants fruit that will last..not this self rightous greedy arrogant snide fruit the church produces today.

You do NOT know the love of the Lord..you only know the chastisement..yes..he DOES chastise..but he does it in LOVE..not HATE..and when he DOES have to use a rod..it hurts him more than it does us.

If you are going to preach..try honey..it attracts bees a lot better than vinegar...and fruit that will last.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


So at this point, you believe there's no such thing as eternal torment in hell?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34278775


If You serve God out of FEAR because he will burn you alive forever..you are NOT loving HIM..you are only loving yourself..because every word you say..and thing you do..is NOT done out of LOVE for him,,which is what he requires..its done ONLY to save your own backside from the flames.

If that is your main focus and motivation..you have not had a revelation of His grace as yet.

You will though.

Not too long ago..bout three years ago..I too went around screaming out doom and death and torment. I didnt see anyone respond..and those that did..didnt last long. their HEART was not in it because they ONLY "Repented" as an act of self preservation...NOT because they actually LOVED the lord with all the heart and all their soul and all their strength..AS he requires.

If yu are serving God out of fear...you are doing it for the WRONG reason..and GOD KNOWS the heart..he knows if you really LOVE Him.

And he is not a blackmailer..so why keep using blackmail to try to win people?

Thats what the pharisees were so good at. never GOOD news..only BAD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17104373


You like to twist peoples words, he not saying he serving God out of fear he pointing out that harsh words are used to save souls and that your newager approach is not going to save souls because you dont understand cause have pride. Fact is all those in Heaven even though they Love God also Fear God.

Fear of God is respect of Gods power, those whom don't fear God are with pride and arrogance. the world is evil and mankind shall reap as they have sown, great shall be the mourning in coming years and what ye think is hard that ye been through is nothing to what you will be going through soon.
 Quoting: spiritoftruth111 33441012


What..you mean the boils and agony and such that you warned about?

Is that Gods way or FORCING me to love him? If I Love God it is because I WANT to because he first Loved me..and poured out His Blood on the cross when I DIDNT deserve it..HIS GRACE..and that He took uppon himself MY punishment that I should have recieved for MY wrongdoings.

But YOU reckon His sacrifice was not enough..that he has to BLACKMAIL people with threats and fear and terror and torture and doom and satanic excruciation..

Well..to be like the God YOU seem to worship..I might go find my self a woman I like..and stalk her and threaten to torture her is she refuses my offer of a date..

Men who do that are sick..but..seeing as YOU want to BE God..or just LIKE Him and use His methods and all..I can imgine you doing that as a way of winning a womans heart.

I feel sorry for you really..you have NO understanding of HIS GRACE..only torture and threats and agony and doom.

ALL WORKS OF DARKNESS!

As for FEAR of God..yes..I fear Him..as in I respect him and Honour Him..but cower and grovel and cringe in TERROR of my wondeful loving Father??

NO WAY!

If MY children cringed in terror and fear every time they were around me..it says something about the kind of ratbag father I am to make em fear and cringe.

But I love my kids and they know it..they RESPECT me yes..but they happilly cavort around me in sheer joy and love of their dad.

And our heavenly father is SO much more of a father that we could ever be.

OH how I cant wait till he shows you this.
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So at this point, you believe there's no such thing as eternal torment in hell?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34278775


If You serve God out of FEAR because he will burn you alive forever..you are NOT loving HIM..you are only loving yourself..because every word you say..and thing you do..is NOT done out of LOVE for him,,which is what he requires..its done ONLY to save your own backside from the flames.

If that is your main focus and motivation..you have not had a revelation of His grace as yet.

You will though.

Not too long ago..bout three years ago..I too went around screaming out doom and death and torment. I didnt see anyone respond..and those that did..didnt last long. their HEART was not in it because they ONLY "Repented" as an act of self preservation...NOT because they actually LOVED the lord with all the heart and all their soul and all their strength..AS he requires.

If yu are serving God out of fear...you are doing it for the WRONG reason..and GOD KNOWS the heart..he knows if you really LOVE Him.

And he is not a blackmailer..so why keep using blackmail to try to win people?

Thats what the pharisees were so good at. never GOOD news..only BAD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17104373


You like to twist peoples words, he not saying he serving God out of fear he pointing out that harsh words are used to save souls and that your newager approach is not going to save souls because you dont understand cause have pride. Fact is all those in Heaven even though they Love God also Fear God.

Fear of God is respect of Gods power, those whom don't fear God are with pride and arrogance. the world is evil and mankind shall reap as they have sown, great shall be the mourning in coming years and what ye think is hard that ye been through is nothing to what you will be going through soon.
 Quoting: spiritoftruth111 33441012


What..you mean the boils and agony and such that you warned about?

Is that Gods way or FORCING me to love him? If I Love God it is because I WANT to because he first Loved me..and poured out His Blood on the cross when I DIDNT deserve it..HIS GRACE..and that He took uppon himself MY punishment that I should have recieved for MY wrongdoings.

But YOU reckon His sacrifice was not enough..that he has to BLACKMAIL people with threats and fear and terror and torture and doom and satanic excruciation..

Well..to be like the God YOU seem to worship..I might go find my self a woman I like..and stalk her and threaten to torture her is she refuses my offer of a date..

Men who do that are sick..but..seeing as YOU want to BE God..or just LIKE Him and use His methods and all..I can imgine you doing that as a way of winning a womans heart.

I feel sorry for you really..you have NO understanding of HIS GRACE..only torture and threats and agony and doom.

ALL WORKS OF DARKNESS!

As for FEAR of God..yes..I fear Him..as in I respect him and Honour Him..but cower and grovel and cringe in TERROR of my wondeful loving Father??

NO WAY!

If MY children cringed in terror and fear every time they were around me..it says something about the kind of ratbag father I am to make em fear and cringe.

But I love my kids and they know it..they RESPECT me yes..but they happilly cavort around me in sheer joy and love of their dad.

And our heavenly father is SO much more of a father that we could ever be.

OH how I cant wait till he shows you this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17104373


I don't think you are listening to what is being said I actually am the Jesus you speak of and have warned you directly for your own good, I have told you what heavens see ye as and others I've spoken too and told ye all reason why you need to repent. You are speaking from pride so devil uses your tongue to twist the intention of the WORD given. Ye do not understand Gods way we look at it from eternity not the moment of time man sees, the greater good always comes first. If people suffering agony on earth saves them from suffering agony forever, we will suffer that those events take place this does not mean we take pleasure in tormenting mankind we just allow it to occur because eternally it is beneficial to their souls.

The boils shall only come upon ye if you don't repent, before that time even arrives for the world mankind shall go through worst time in history, people will have to watch their own children starve to death this is only a small example of what mankind has brought upon them-self, the amount of evil that has occurred throughout all time is enough to open the mouth of Hell and before this world comes to it end it will open into the dimension of man. My focus is on saving the souls from eternal damnation if I have to suffer that karma 'reap as sow' comes back upon the world to do so I will, it is in my power to break the seals which bring forth the end time events and I tell you this soon I will break the seals, the Lion shall overcome all and shall break the seals upon the mount then woe shall come upon all nations and even Israel shall have hardship before being redeemed.

I saith unto ye to repent and let go of your pride it has overtaken ye like weeds.
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Have you read the OLD TESTAMENT?
The children of Israel were perpetually in either
a state of revival or moral degeneracy.
Don't blame Jonathan Edwards for the moral degeneracy
of this vile, wicked generation.

Judgment starts at the House of the Lord.
The preachers who don't preach REPENTENCE FIRST,
or who preach the "feel good" gospel, which has never
to my knowledge darkened America's door,
or who preach the prosperity gospel with God playing
the role of Santa Claus, another new satanic twist,
all these people will answer for the souls they are
leading to perdition.

You have Christianity upside down and backwards.
Christians love God for what HE DID for us at Calvary.
We have NO FEAR at all, of ANYTHING.
We are NO LONGER CONDEMNED,
but those who haven't received the Lord Jesus Christ
have EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD TO FEAR,
because they are already condemned, as Jesus said.
They are bound for the Lake of Fire!!!

That isn't some notion Christians came up with to
fill the pews of their churches by scaring the lost,
it is the WORD OF GOD!

It is a fact, and if you have any unsaved loved ones,
to keep that reality from them, is nothing short of SIN.

I don't know if you are saved or not, but we are to
proclaim the WHOLE COUNSEL of God.
Most importantly is God's Love shown at Calvary,
where He was tortured, crucified, and died a bloody
death, IN OUR PLACE!

Jesus Christ, and Him crucified!

He is our Lord and our God and our Salvation,
but if you leave this world without Him, you are
eternally lost,
and that fact should make ANYONE SHUDDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23587448


I DID preach repentance first.

But people wanted to have a reason besides being burnt alive if they didnt. That only brings FALSE repentance.

FORCED love is FAKE love..and if you come to God ONLY because he is going to torture you if you dont..your heart is NOT REALLY IN it,,and he sees that..and God does NOT like fake love.

Yeshuah is coming for his BRIDE..not His terrified blackmailed cowering slave.

If you got a woman to marry you because you told her you would skin her alive if she didnt..tell me..WOULD you really trust her love if she did give in to this and marry you?

She may marry you..but always resent and secretly HATE you..for being such an evil heartles loveless nutter.

And yet you expect to win people the same way..by blackmail and terror and force. Works of DARKNESS..and thus the fruits you see in the church..so much greed..arrogance..pride..selfishness..FEAR..always FEAR FEAR FEAR..and adultery.

WHY??

Because all those people NEVER REPENTED..they just said the right words..and NOTHING changed on the inside..they serve themselves more than God..they do it to save their own backsides..because of FEAR.

God sees all this..look at the endless fruit of hate and snide arguments christians have..always trying to win points and threaten eachother with doom and death..hate and arrogance..is the fruit of FAKE LOVE..which comes with FAKE REPENTANCE.

The Lord wants fruit that will last..not this self rightous greedy arrogant snide fruit the church produces today.

You do NOT know the love of the Lord..you only know the chastisement..yes..he DOES chastise..but he does it in LOVE..not HATE..and when he DOES have to use a rod..it hurts him more than it does us.

If you are going to preach..try honey..it attracts bees a lot better than vinegar...and fruit that will last.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34262584


So at this point, you believe there's no such thing as eternal torment in hell?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34278775


If You serve God out of FEAR because he will burn you alive forever..you are NOT loving HIM..you are only loving yourself..because every word you say..and thing you do..is NOT done out of LOVE for him,,which is what he requires..its done ONLY to save your own backside from the flames.

If that is your main focus and motivation..you have not had a revelation of His grace as yet.

You will though.

Not too long ago..bout three years ago..I too went around screaming out doom and death and torment. I didnt see anyone respond..and those that did..didnt last long. their HEART was not in it because they ONLY "Repented" as an act of self preservation...NOT because they actually LOVED the lord with all the heart and all their soul and all their strength..AS he requires.

If yu are serving God out of fear...you are doing it for the WRONG reason..and GOD KNOWS the heart..he knows if you really LOVE Him.

And he is not a blackmailer..so why keep using blackmail to try to win people?

Thats what the pharisees were so good at. never GOOD news..only BAD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17104373


I understand your point, to serve out of love, instead of fear.

But you didn't answer the question,

Do you currently believe in eternal torment?
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OP, are these meteors the beginning???
DOOM better not interrupt my Walking Dead!!
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02/15/2013 01:18 PM
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Re: I am the AC who wrote that vision I had when I was 15. I tuned 44 today. So it begins. Does anyone have any questions or need any encouragement?
OP

I am tired of living in this state of existence.

I live just for the quest of getting money.

This is all I feel I am ; just here to get a job to get money.

I don't have any friends ;

nor a really caring family

It is all just surface for them.

I have a husband and if I didn't have him; I would have left long ago.


This realm is just about getting and attaining money and this is really all.

Give me a word...

I would like to move on to another place that doesn't have anything to do with money.

I think my husband would miss me and this is what holds me here....
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02/15/2013 04:05 PM
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Re: I am the AC who wrote that vision I had when I was 15. I tuned 44 today. So it begins. Does anyone have any questions or need any encouragement?
OP, are these meteors the beginning???
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This year is a year of mourning I shall soon break the seals. The spirits are already at war it will affect the earth the Op is considered by heaven a false prophet, if ye listen unto him will only fall with him. Read revelations. The beginning of end began on the Chinese new year, marked for a reason by the adversary first cometh war in spirit then the physical is impacted, man can not see the unseen but shall see it effects on the world. More events are coming this year be ye prepared and repent.

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