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I am the AC who wrote that vision I had when I was 15. I tuned 44 today. So it begins. Does anyone have any questions or need any encouragement?

 
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Something about the account seems 'off' to me. No disrespect.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Anhedonic- I'm just an AC, but it seems that we have a lot in common (posts that interest us and things that you say)!

Anyways, I'm agreeing with you on this one. I get the feeling that the OP prob had a dream vision and his 15 year old brain embellished it. He's so special that Jesus gave him eyes just like his own? I guess the rest of us he created he didn't care much for? we're the throw-aways with non-Jesus eyes?

Sorry OP, there have been greater "visions" and "prophecies" throughout history which turned out to be duds.
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The author claims that he/she presently wants nothing to do with religion:

I found this on another forum.

I thought I would post it here.

I have never seen anyting like it.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I was raised an athiest.

Utterly godless.

Not even agnostic.

No gods..fairies..santas or bunnies…Believed nothing at all.

I saw all the trouble and confusion it caused and wanted nothing to do with it.

I see Christians always fighting and debating and being hypocrites all the time.

I see new agers not really having a clue what it is they actually beleive in, and going in circles.

I see all the other religions all banging their head on a wall but achieving nothing but headaches.

I wanted no part in it and still don’t.

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Then why is the story filled with religious/biblical undertones & references????

- 2013 to 2020 = 7 Year Period, gee where did that come from?
- Reference to Moses flood at the end
- Reference to 'God' or the Creator as 'Lord'.
- Harvest/Rapture like event at the end

Why would someone who calls christians 'hypocrites' and says he/she wants nothing to do with religion write a story with multiple references that come directly from christianity & the bible? Why would someone make multiple references to christianity/bible and claim that the 'Lord' was a 6 foot tall medium build male with white hair when the bible contradicts this by saying that 'God' is LIGHT and that no man shall see the face of 'God'???? How's that for a contradiction?

The author of this message was also alleged to have written this follow up on another forum:

I found that thread from the other forum

the OP went on to write this in answer to a question.

Cant post link to that forum. Its naughty to do so and results in insta ban.

=================================================

Feel free to post that vision if you like.

BTW.

After I wrote it more came back to my memory of the event.

The last year for me has been hard. very very hard. I wont go into details but the events of my life just in the last 12 months leading up to today..the last day of my 43rd year..were the final stage. I am dead to this world now. And going by what I can remember now of that event 28 years ago...I can see why.

There is a vast and terrifying abysss just ahead. Many millions dying..war..death..loss of hope. Our whole way of life..our entire civilization..will soon be in ruin..

That is when lights shine the brightest..when darkness falls.

The darkness falls very soon. Before the middle of next year...I cant see clearly WHAT it is..I only know its devastating..and permanent..as in..it ends western civilization..forever.

One other thing I know about whats coming..

THERE WILL BE NO WARNING...NO one will predict it..NO prophet will warn of it..NO one will KNOW..until the final few seconds.

Its going to be FAST and SUDDEN and WORLD SHAKING..NO warning..not even from the Lord.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21306218


So there's 'no warning', no 'predicting it', no 'prophet' will warn of it, and 'no one will know', yet the author is sitting here telling us this will happen in a few weeks while his/her own story directly contradicts this account by telling us there will be no messenger, no warning, no prophet telling us of these events. That's weird huh?

I find it comical how the introduction to the story is meant to touch on all the various belief systems - mentioning atheists, new agers, christians, and the likes of other religions. Almost as if to intentionally eliminate suspicion of bias in advance of the story. To appease to a larger audience right?

Couple this in with the fact that you've got 3 different anonymous australian AC's posting this same story on the same day and one of which is embellishing the account by adding phrases like "I've never seen anything like it" (yeah right) and encouraging others to post this vision elsewhere.

Sorry but this has all the ingredients for being Grade A:

stir

People, no divinely inspired vision/message is going to be told or relayed in this contradictory manner and it's certainly not going to contain any elements designed to generate a fear response within you. The follow up message contains phrases such as:

'terrifying abyss'
'milllions dying, war, death'
'devastating, permanent end of western civilization'
'world shaking'
'sudden and shocking'

All of this bullshit is designed to play on your emotions and generate anxiety/fear and make the story seem more sensational and thus, believable. Funny how this story is being posted on multiple conspiracy forums and by multiple users from the same location.


Words of advice:

- Do not allow yourselves to be easily swayed or manipulated by your emotions during these trying times because people will seek to test you like this, especially online.

- Do not listen to anyone who tells you what will happen in the future and gives you exact dates/years. No one knows this information, whether they claim to have had a dream, a vision, or to be psychic - NO ONE KNOWS because the future is not written in stone and is currently being created in the PRESENT moment!

- Do not listen to anyone who acts as a prophet while also telling you there will be no prophet (MAJOR RED FLAG)


Finally: Recommend unpin this B.S.

bsflag


/end rant

dasbier
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


makes sense...
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I havent read anything you have mentioned or at least I havent recognized anything to be yours.

What was your vision, you may have to retell your story.
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Thread: A Vision/Dream from an AC 28 years ago about to be fulfilled?
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He was about 6 foot...medium build..strong..yet supple..he had an air of authority about him..like a mighty fighter who could whip anyones butt with ease..and KNEW it..but was humble and gentle and didnt brag about it.


Supple?

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Something about the account seems 'off' to me. No disrespect.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Anhedonic- I'm just an AC, but it seems that we have a lot in common (posts that interest us and things that you say)!

Anyways, I'm agreeing with you on this one. I get the feeling that the OP prob had a dream vision and his 15 year old brain embellished it. He's so special that Jesus gave him eyes just like his own? I guess the rest of us he created he didn't care much for? we're the throw-aways with non-Jesus eyes?

Sorry OP, there have been greater "visions" and "prophecies" throughout history which turned out to be duds.
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hf

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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The author claims that he/she presently wants nothing to do with religion:


Then why is the story filled with religious/biblical undertones & references????

- 2013 to 2020 = 7 Year Period, gee where did that come from?
- Reference to Moses flood at the end
- Reference to 'God' or the Creator as 'Lord'.
- Harvest/Rapture like event at the end

Why would someone who calls christians 'hypocrites' and says he/she wants nothing to do with religion write a story with multiple references that come directly from christianity & the bible? Why would someone make multiple references to christianity/bible and claim that the 'Lord' was a 6 foot tall medium build male with white hair when the bible contradicts this by saying that 'God' is LIGHT and that no man shall see the face of 'God'???? How's that for a contradiction?

The author of this message was also alleged to have written this follow up on another forum:


So there's 'no warning', no 'predicting it', no 'prophet' will warn of it, and 'no one will know', yet the author is sitting here telling us this will happen in a few weeks while his/her own story directly contradicts this account by telling us there will be no messenger, no warning, no prophet telling us of these events. That's weird huh?

I find it comical how the introduction to the story is meant to touch on all the various belief systems - mentioning atheists, new agers, christians, and the likes of other religions. Almost as if to intentionally eliminate suspicion of bias in advance of the story. To appease to a larger audience right?

Couple this in with the fact that you've got 3 different anonymous australian AC's posting this same story on the same day and one of which is embellishing the account by adding phrases like "I've never seen anything like it" (yeah right) and encouraging others to post this vision elsewhere.

Sorry but this has all the ingredients for being Grade A:

stir

People, no divinely inspired vision/message is going to be told or relayed in this contradictory manner and it's certainly not going to contain any elements designed to generate a fear response within you. The follow up message contains phrases such as:

'terrifying abyss'
'milllions dying, war, death'
'devastating, permanent end of western civilization'
'world shaking'
'sudden and shocking'

All of this bullshit is designed to play on your emotions and generate anxiety/fear and make the story seem more sensational and thus, believable. Funny how this story is being posted on multiple conspiracy forums and by multiple users from the same location.


Words of advice:

- Do not allow yourselves to be easily swayed or manipulated by your emotions during these trying times because people will seek to test you like this, especially online.

- Do not listen to anyone who tells you what will happen in the future and gives you exact dates/years. No one knows this information, whether they claim to have had a dream, a vision, or to be psychic - NO ONE KNOWS because the future is not written in stone and is currently being created in the PRESENT moment!

- Do not listen to anyone who acts as a prophet while also telling you there will be no prophet (MAJOR RED FLAG)


Finally: Recommend unpin this B.S.

bsflag


/end rant

dasbier
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Nicely worded Anhedonic

Plus he Throws in a self-righteous (and christian) dig about 30 million abortions being the reason so many children were running around in heaven.
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The author claims that he/she presently wants nothing to do with religion:


Then why is the story filled with religious/biblical undertones & references????

- 2013 to 2020 = 7 Year Period, gee where did that come from?
- Reference to Moses flood at the end
- Reference to 'God' or the Creator as 'Lord'.
- Harvest/Rapture like event at the end

Why would someone who calls christians 'hypocrites' and says he/she wants nothing to do with religion write a story with multiple references that come directly from christianity & the bible? Why would someone make multiple references to christianity/bible and claim that the 'Lord' was a 6 foot tall medium build male with white hair when the bible contradicts this by saying that 'God' is LIGHT and that no man shall see the face of 'God'???? How's that for a contradiction?

The author of this message was also alleged to have written this follow up on another forum:


So there's 'no warning', no 'predicting it', no 'prophet' will warn of it, and 'no one will know', yet the author is sitting here telling us this will happen in a few weeks while his/her own story directly contradicts this account by telling us there will be no messenger, no warning, no prophet telling us of these events. That's weird huh?

I find it comical how the introduction to the story is meant to touch on all the various belief systems - mentioning atheists, new agers, christians, and the likes of other religions. Almost as if to intentionally eliminate suspicion of bias in advance of the story. To appease to a larger audience right?

Couple this in with the fact that you've got 3 different anonymous australian AC's posting this same story on the same day and one of which is embellishing the account by adding phrases like "I've never seen anything like it" (yeah right) and encouraging others to post this vision elsewhere.

Sorry but this has all the ingredients for being Grade A:

stir

People, no divinely inspired vision/message is going to be told or relayed in this contradictory manner and it's certainly not going to contain any elements designed to generate a fear response within you. The follow up message contains phrases such as:

'terrifying abyss'
'milllions dying, war, death'
'devastating, permanent end of western civilization'
'world shaking'
'sudden and shocking'

All of this bullshit is designed to play on your emotions and generate anxiety/fear and make the story seem more sensational and thus, believable. Funny how this story is being posted on multiple conspiracy forums and by multiple users from the same location.


Words of advice:

- Do not allow yourselves to be easily swayed or manipulated by your emotions during these trying times because people will seek to test you like this, especially online.

- Do not listen to anyone who tells you what will happen in the future and gives you exact dates/years. No one knows this information, whether they claim to have had a dream, a vision, or to be psychic - NO ONE KNOWS because the future is not written in stone and is currently being created in the PRESENT moment!

- Do not listen to anyone who acts as a prophet while also telling you there will be no prophet (MAJOR RED FLAG)


Finally: Recommend unpin this B.S.

bsflag


/end rant

dasbier
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Nicely worded Anhedonic

Plus he Throws in a self-righteous (and christian) dig about 30 million abortions being the reason so many children were running around in heaven.
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Awww you butt hurt when people tell it like it is fella?
Abortion ain't a chance,and it isn't merely disposing of some cells.Thats a human life being exterminated pal...deal with it.
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This is typical Christian proselytizing


"I'm not Christian, but Jesus appeared to me and saved me"
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OP, you seem the same Australian guy, that rants about God and hell?
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The author claims that he/she presently wants nothing to do with religion:


Then why is the story filled with religious/biblical undertones & references????

- 2013 to 2020 = 7 Year Period, gee where did that come from?
- Reference to Moses flood at the end
- Reference to 'God' or the Creator as 'Lord'.
- Harvest/Rapture like event at the end

Why would someone who calls christians 'hypocrites' and says he/she wants nothing to do with religion write a story with multiple references that come directly from christianity & the bible? Why would someone make multiple references to christianity/bible and claim that the 'Lord' was a 6 foot tall medium build male with white hair when the bible contradicts this by saying that 'God' is LIGHT and that no man shall see the face of 'God'???? How's that for a contradiction?

The author of this message was also alleged to have written this follow up on another forum:


So there's 'no warning', no 'predicting it', no 'prophet' will warn of it, and 'no one will know', yet the author is sitting here telling us this will happen in a few weeks while his/her own story directly contradicts this account by telling us there will be no messenger, no warning, no prophet telling us of these events. That's weird huh?

I find it comical how the introduction to the story is meant to touch on all the various belief systems - mentioning atheists, new agers, christians, and the likes of other religions. Almost as if to intentionally eliminate suspicion of bias in advance of the story. To appease to a larger audience right?

Couple this in with the fact that you've got 3 different anonymous australian AC's posting this same story on the same day and one of which is embellishing the account by adding phrases like "I've never seen anything like it" (yeah right) and encouraging others to post this vision elsewhere.

Sorry but this has all the ingredients for being Grade A:

stir

People, no divinely inspired vision/message is going to be told or relayed in this contradictory manner and it's certainly not going to contain any elements designed to generate a fear response within you. The follow up message contains phrases such as:

'terrifying abyss'
'milllions dying, war, death'
'devastating, permanent end of western civilization'
'world shaking'
'sudden and shocking'

All of this bullshit is designed to play on your emotions and generate anxiety/fear and make the story seem more sensational and thus, believable. Funny how this story is being posted on multiple conspiracy forums and by multiple users from the same location.


Words of advice:

- Do not allow yourselves to be easily swayed or manipulated by your emotions during these trying times because people will seek to test you like this, especially online.

- Do not listen to anyone who tells you what will happen in the future and gives you exact dates/years. No one knows this information, whether they claim to have had a dream, a vision, or to be psychic - NO ONE KNOWS because the future is not written in stone and is currently being created in the PRESENT moment!

- Do not listen to anyone who acts as a prophet while also telling you there will be no prophet (MAJOR RED FLAG)


Finally: Recommend unpin this B.S.

bsflag


/end rant

dasbier
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Nicely worded Anhedonic

Plus he Throws in a self-righteous (and christian) dig about 30 million abortions being the reason so many children were running around in heaven.
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Awww you butt hurt when people tell it like it is fella?
Abortion ain't a chance,and it isn't merely disposing of some cells.Thats a human life being exterminated pal...deal with it.
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You're a retard. This is not a debate about abortion. It's about the OP's Christian-based "vision."

I have no opinion about abortion. That's your problem.
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So why does god, the creator, choose just select people to give his vision to? Why not everyone...why doesn't he give everyone the same vision; Seems a bit lopsided to me and unfair. Sorry, I am just telling it how I feel it. I think every living being should be able to experience what you described in your vision. Why choose one over the other? Why make one ready and the rest fall short?
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The author claims that he/she presently wants nothing to do with religion:


Then why is the story filled with religious/biblical undertones & references????

- 2013 to 2020 = 7 Year Period, gee where did that come from?
- Reference to Moses flood at the end
- Reference to 'God' or the Creator as 'Lord'.
- Harvest/Rapture like event at the end

Why would someone who calls christians 'hypocrites' and says he/she wants nothing to do with religion write a story with multiple references that come directly from christianity & the bible? Why would someone make multiple references to christianity/bible and claim that the 'Lord' was a 6 foot tall medium build male with white hair when the bible contradicts this by saying that 'God' is LIGHT and that no man shall see the face of 'God'???? How's that for a contradiction?

The author of this message was also alleged to have written this follow up on another forum:


So there's 'no warning', no 'predicting it', no 'prophet' will warn of it, and 'no one will know', yet the author is sitting here telling us this will happen in a few weeks while his/her own story directly contradicts this account by telling us there will be no messenger, no warning, no prophet telling us of these events. That's weird huh?

I find it comical how the introduction to the story is meant to touch on all the various belief systems - mentioning atheists, new agers, christians, and the likes of other religions. Almost as if to intentionally eliminate suspicion of bias in advance of the story. To appease to a larger audience right?

Couple this in with the fact that you've got 3 different anonymous australian AC's posting this same story on the same day and one of which is embellishing the account by adding phrases like "I've never seen anything like it" (yeah right) and encouraging others to post this vision elsewhere.

Sorry but this has all the ingredients for being Grade A:

stir

People, no divinely inspired vision/message is going to be told or relayed in this contradictory manner and it's certainly not going to contain any elements designed to generate a fear response within you. The follow up message contains phrases such as:

'terrifying abyss'
'milllions dying, war, death'
'devastating, permanent end of western civilization'
'world shaking'
'sudden and shocking'

All of this bullshit is designed to play on your emotions and generate anxiety/fear and make the story seem more sensational and thus, believable. Funny how this story is being posted on multiple conspiracy forums and by multiple users from the same location.


Words of advice:

- Do not allow yourselves to be easily swayed or manipulated by your emotions during these trying times because people will seek to test you like this, especially online.

- Do not listen to anyone who tells you what will happen in the future and gives you exact dates/years. No one knows this information, whether they claim to have had a dream, a vision, or to be psychic - NO ONE KNOWS because the future is not written in stone and is currently being created in the PRESENT moment!

- Do not listen to anyone who acts as a prophet while also telling you there will be no prophet (MAJOR RED FLAG)


Finally: Recommend unpin this B.S.

bsflag


/end rant

dasbier
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Nicely worded Anhedonic

Plus he Throws in a self-righteous (and christian) dig about 30 million abortions being the reason so many children were running around in heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30852964


Awww you butt hurt when people tell it like it is fella?
Abortion ain't a chance,and it isn't merely disposing of some cells.Thats a human life being exterminated pal...deal with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30974590


You're a retard. This is not a debate about abortion. It's about the OP's Christian-based "vision."

I have no opinion about abortion. That's your problem.
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If you have no bias towards abortion why are you so butthurt about the visionary having a negative perception of it?I'm pretty sure it's well known that we Christians are notoriously against abortion (AKA infant genocide)
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Alright...

I believe you! But!

How can you be sure to trust Him?

When I'm at my best, I have deep love, empathy and appreciation of the Demi-urge, but I'm also cautious of the masculine "god" being...

He always puts on such a display of grandeur, sort of vain and pushy...

So he's fine with paying a special visit to a chosen few and fear-mongering...

Love and forgiveness of course, what about subtle guilt? Implying a spiritual hierarchy by his stature and locale, wow sure sounds nice, that's too bad for us :(

Oh he created us and everything huh? But we're all infinite.

This being sounds like the pleasant face of Demi-urge which attempts to take credit for all of creation through mind-games, uses passive aggression, and uses love like a bait and lure.

The true unconditional loving source insists on equality with all beings, there is no difference between the grand waterfall and my shit in the toilet -as crazy as that sounds its actually true.

The true source would let you know language itself is a tool of control.

Would agree this world is a half-light world, not complete reality.

But the funny thing is I love this being dearly, he teaches us the different faces of the "snake" force, pretty and awful, so now we may know better, and we can find love for him even when we know the games he plays with us.

Has no problem using emotional strings does he?

Boy, I get frustrated with this being and our spot, but ultimately this experience allows for development of empathy and understanding of the most deceptive, most advanced predator and parasite system.

He's made it seem normal, lol, predator and prey, there's no other choice if you want to survive.

This is the hard truth IMO... And we came in here so we may know all, forgive all, be aware of all, including super advanced passive aggressive ego maniac creator gods, from the point of view as a subject from inside, if we can transcend this, make peace with this, we can handle anything existence can throw at us.

Ah, and I don't want to give him too much credit either, reality is not his, not an illusion, his control is a control of belief, if we believe this is all his, we are his finite creation below, that's good enough for him, this way we act as foundation to his illusory domain.

This all belongs to all of us, all is infinite, all is source, he has cornered off a section and set up sophisticated mind games to keep you convinced and give him the credit, quite the deceiver indeed!

So be careful! I wonder how many will actually make it through, gracefully thanking the Demi-urge on the way out with true unconditional love, balance and understanding- this is the cutting edge and most intense stage of evolution, which results in total liberation and understanding, returning to our full self outside this universe as we have accomplished what we came in here originally to do.

And those billions wrapped around his finger will loop over and over until they don't loop anymore...

peace
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You should keep it simple, and just listen to the good part of the heart.
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I know it's scary sounding but it's true.

Don't take my word for it you'll discover the same thing yourself one lifetime or another.

I was in "heaven" once, and I called them out, lovingly though, but still irritated, I demanded they reveal their true form to me.

They had the robes, golden pearly gates, clouds made of rainbows and white light - those are passive aggressive red flags, why are they trying to make a vain impression?

They tried to tell me I was Jesus, didn't fall for the ego trip, called them out we are all equals growing, there is no single Christ, in fact the chosen one ism has caused lots of problems.

They were shocked... Poof they were gone, except one stuck around, his robe was now brown, he was longer a muscular pristine white monk, but now a worried and desperate middle eastern bald man.

"Heaven" was now a dark brown and purple murky cavern if dim light...

He offered me great wealth if I would take him on as a spiritual advisor and give him a chance to explain himself.

I told him he just revealed himself further, why would he have anything to do with earth money? He looked shocked and had nothing to say.

I told him nice try and he should get going and he dissipated.

There's a lot of domains between here and outside this universe, and it's trickier than just listening to the goodness of your heart...
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Has no problem making such a loaded impression on a 15 year old no less.

I love the guy but geeez, he can be a frustrating Demi-urge...
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I am the AC who posted the vision on the other site.

I did so because I was blanket banned from this site over chritmas, and my first thought was to post it here once it all came flooding back.

I posted it at the other sight because I didnt have any other choice.

The ban was lifted today, so now I have the opportunity for the next two and a half hours,(I have to go somewhere soon) I will answer any questions you might have and give more details of the vision. I am remembering more and more as time passes like a blinder had been lifted from my eyes.

I am free to share and encourge.

I know a lot of you have questions and want further details so feel free to ask away.

Btw before you ask...I will not condemn anyone to hell...nor will I judge anyone..or belittle anyone. I am here to encourage and to strengthen..not frighten and pull down.

I have much truth to tell..and the truth is still the truth even if you dont beleive it.

The time for doctrines and strivings is over.

The world is barrelling headlong now into an abyss...now is the time to encourage eachother and speak light to eachother..not condemnation and darkness.

In the year ahead we will need all the love and light we can glean.

So while the sun still shines...lets make hay.
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Hello Sir.

Recently, The LORD came to comfort me after I came to some conclusions, regarding how the evil one works.. The evil one works like a snake, which is able to weave in and out while one is having considerations.


As we consider, ideas are pitched by our inner voice or sub-conscious to us while we think things over. Often times these ideas all seem like they are our own, however I have concluded 'that snake' is pitching those ideas often times, while The LORD is there too - similar to the concept of The LORD is at the cross(roads), because in the end, The LORD gave us men free will, but He wants us to turn from sin and choose Him instead of continuing down the road of sin.

Anyway so by putting this concept to the test, I often time use a iPhone 5 analogy - a young person walking with a new iPhone 5... (is often enough to bring in the snake, to pitch bad ideas) but most people are not sensitive enough to realize this, as they think it is their own thinking.

When they go to check, yes, of course it is only them-self in their mind - and there in lays the secret - the evil one is gone, and said victim is left holding the bag. The wages of sin is death. Even an atheist could step outside, and consider robbing someone - and they will notice these types of thoughts being pitched. It is a crime to go even this far, it is called "laying in wait" and is usually tied to a murder crime.

So by understanding all these things, I told my self "thats it! I figured it out! Thats how the evil one works!!"

But what happened next scared the SHIT out of me: my 'inner voice' responded to this thought, and said "oh ya?? So what are you gonna do about it..."

This was actually not my inner voice, as this voice sounded like mine, but when it said THAT, I knew who it really was, as he said it really mean and in such away as to be upset that I had found him out.

I only had one choice and so I replied in thought "I rebuke you in the name of the Living GOD" and that is when The LORD came to comfort me:

Instantly while sitting at my computer having these these thoughts, as soon as I rebuked the evil one, suddenly I was blinded by white. Not white like what we perceive, but the most pure unfathomable whitem, in all direction. I couldn't see anything like as if my eyes were closed.

Suddenly I felt overwhelmed in feeling, but not sure what, because it was joy and happyness and comforting, but not like how those feelings are on earth, and then I heard HIM: (verbatim:) You are to call me LORD.. or The LORD..... ..You need to bring people to Me..

Holy shit.... It was The LORD!!!!! He drove out the enemy and came to comfort me!! He then told me I need to bring people to Him!!

It felt like suddenly, your best friend who you haven't seen in 20yrs had just turned in the chair next to you, and paid you a visit but for only 2 minutes!! I still could see nothing except the most pure white in all direction.

I squandered the opportunity and asked in thought "what about current events" (like america and the middle east) and He said "..wait and see.."

Afterwords, I realized it was HIM all long who was there, step by step helping me along with my computer project, keeping me on task each step of the way, and that The LORD really is with you - always. Even if it seems like He is not.

So I have my orders, you know what I must do now, as I have been instructed by The LORD to Bring people to HIM.

This all happened randomly about 3weeks ago, and I am trying to bring people to Him.
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Very meaningful post! Thx U for sharing
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Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Alright...

I believe you! But!

How can you be sure to trust Him?

When I'm at my best, I have deep love, empathy and appreciation of the Demi-urge, but I'm also cautious of the masculine "god" being...

He always puts on such a display of grandeur, sort of vain and pushy...

So he's fine with paying a special visit to a chosen few and fear-mongering...

Love and forgiveness of course, what about subtle guilt? Implying a spiritual hierarchy by his stature and locale, wow sure sounds nice, that's too bad for us :(

Oh he created us and everything huh? But we're all infinite.

This being sounds like the pleasant face of Demi-urge which attempts to take credit for all of creation through mind-games, uses passive aggression, and uses love like a bait and lure.

The true unconditional loving source insists on equality with all beings, there is no difference between the grand waterfall and my shit in the toilet -as crazy as that sounds its actually true.

The true source would let you know language itself is a tool of control.

Would agree this world is a half-light world, not complete reality.

But the funny thing is I love this being dearly, he teaches us the different faces of the "snake" force, pretty and awful, so now we may know better, and we can find love for him even when we know the games he plays with us.

Has no problem using emotional strings does he?

Boy, I get frustrated with this being and our spot, but ultimately this experience allows for development of empathy and understanding of the most deceptive, most advanced predator and parasite system.

He's made it seem normal, lol, predator and prey, there's no other choice if you want to survive.

This is the hard truth IMO... And we came in here so we may know all, forgive all, be aware of all, including super advanced passive aggressive ego maniac creator gods, from the point of view as a subject from inside, if we can transcend this, make peace with this, we can handle anything existence can throw at us.

Ah, and I don't want to give him too much credit either, reality is not his, not an illusion, his control is a control of belief, if we believe this is all his, we are his finite creation below, that's good enough for him, this way we act as foundation to his illusory domain.

This all belongs to all of us, all is infinite, all is source, he has cornered off a section and set up sophisticated mind games to keep you convinced and give him the credit, quite the deceiver indeed!

So be careful! I wonder how many will actually make it through, gracefully thanking the Demi-urge on the way out with true unconditional love, balance and understanding- this is the cutting edge and most intense stage of evolution, which results in total liberation and understanding, returning to our full self outside this universe as we have accomplished what we came in here originally to do.

And those billions wrapped around his finger will loop over and over until they don't loop anymore...

peace
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You should keep it simple, and just listen to the good part of the heart.
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I know it's scary sounding but it's true.

Don't take my word for it you'll discover the same thing yourself one lifetime or another.

I was in "heaven" once, and I called them out, lovingly though, but still irritated, I demanded they reveal their true form to me.

They had the robes, golden pearly gates, clouds made of rainbows and white light - those are passive aggressive red flags, why are they trying to make a vain impression?

They tried to tell me I was Jesus, didn't fall for the ego trip, called them out we are all equals growing, there is no single Christ, in fact the chosen one ism has caused lots of problems.

They were shocked... Poof they were gone, except one stuck around, his robe was now brown, he was longer a muscular pristine white monk, but now a worried and desperate middle eastern bald man.

"Heaven" was now a dark brown and purple murky cavern if dim light...

He offered me great wealth if I would take him on as a spiritual advisor and give him a chance to explain himself.

I told him he just revealed himself further, why would he have anything to do with earth money? He looked shocked and had nothing to say.

I told him nice try and he should get going and he dissipated.

There's a lot of domains between here and outside this universe, and it's trickier than just listening to the goodness of your heart...
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^^ nice ^^

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but why would the Jesus in your vision incorrectly identify himself as God?

the real Jesus was not God but the son of God.

a human.

it is a crucial part of the story.


and the "I am" is a pretty common mistranslation that is actively used in (pagan) Christianity to help support the (false) idea that Jesus is God.


just because you had a vision, does not make it a revelation of God. particularly when you have shown that it incorporates commonly held but easily proven false doctrine

sorry, not trying to be mean. Just trying to elucidate.

hf
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Critical thinker here ^

hf
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No, rather a Jehovah's Witness.
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but why would the Jesus in your vision incorrectly identify himself as God?

the real Jesus was not God but the son of God.

a human.

it is a crucial part of the story.


and the "I am" is a pretty common mistranslation that is actively used in (pagan) Christianity to help support the (false) idea that Jesus is God.


just because you had a vision, does not make it a revelation of God. particularly when you have shown that it incorporates commonly held but easily proven false doctrine

sorry, not trying to be mean. Just trying to elucidate.

hf
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Critical thinker here ^

hf
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No, rather a Jehovah's Witness.
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A lot of Christian denominations do believe in the trinity. OP's vision is confirming this, maybe the JWs are wrong.
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so what exactly was your vision that will absolutely not come true because nothing amazing ever happens?
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Nicely worded Anhedonic

Plus he Throws in a self-righteous (and christian) dig about 30 million abortions being the reason so many children were running around in heaven.
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Awww you butt hurt when people tell it like it is fella?
Abortion ain't a chance,and it isn't merely disposing of some cells.Thats a human life being exterminated pal...deal with it.
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You're a retard. This is not a debate about abortion. It's about the OP's Christian-based "vision."

I have no opinion about abortion. That's your problem.
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If you have no bias towards abortion why are you so butthurt about the visionary having a negative perception of it?I'm pretty sure it's well known that we Christians are notoriously against abortion (AKA infant genocide)
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Really? I have to explain how the English language is used?

If you re-read my words, I pointed out the fact that the OP got his Christian agenda dig into his vision...which shows he has an agenda. I'm challenging his VISION, not his (or any) abortion issues.
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Total BS.

Jesus himself said he was not God.

And as a language person I always crack up at the "I AM" nonsense.
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99% of the world's christians believe Jesus is God. Take your erroneous Jehovah's Witnesses belief out of this thread please.

Jesus:

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last - Revelation 22:13
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Perhaps this "Jesus" fellow was a demon in disguise?

It's known that the illuminati worship the "I AM" demons.
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Thank you OP for sharing your vision. I thought just the descriptions of heaven you shared were amazing. My question, what should we be doing to prepare? I am talking spiritually.
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THE most important thing..whether you are an athiest..a catholic..a hindu..does not matter WHAT you call yourself..is FIRST and FOREMOST..FORGIVE..and FORGIVE and FORGIVE.

Forgiveness is the very power of the creator...its his blood..its his life..once you allow forgiveness to flow out of you..HE will flow INTO you..and all your questions about WHO he is..he will answer you personally..one on one.

You see..he KNOWS every person personally..HE created each one..with a specific design and reason and personality...and THAT is why he empasised forgiveness above doctrines..above religions and creeds..because forgiveness of others is the START of true life.

Once it has started..all else melts away in a wave of TRUTH..and that TRUTH is the LORD..and that LORD...is LOVE ITSELF..the Lord Creator..the Most high..and he LOVES YOU>>ALL OF YOU.

Its not about "But im a christian" or "Im a catholic" or whatever.

ITS ALL about..CAN you forgive...the unforgivable?

CAN you love the unlovable?

ARE you hurting..in pain..needing love yourself?

Once you forgive...you will naturally LOVE..and ONCE you love..you are on the way to KNOWING the very heart of the Most High.

AND THAT..is all the prepeartion you need.

For those who seek to save their lives..for their OWN lives sake..will lose it.

But those who give of their life..for others..will save theirs....and..many others.
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I would consider mysekf someone who has known God for quite some time but recently he has also impressed upon me that bascially his people are those that forgive, and of course he forgave us. Think about it. What kind of place would heaven be if half the people there held grudges against each other. God wants his heaven to a place of peace and forgving people are required for this.
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OP, due your changing IP, it's hard to find your posts.

There are others, and myself that want to read all your posts.

So please, make a free account, so we can more easily find them, and this will in turn help more people out.
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Awww you butt hurt when people tell it like it is fella?
Abortion ain't a chance,and it isn't merely disposing of some cells.Thats a human life being exterminated pal...deal with it.
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You're a retard. This is not a debate about abortion. It's about the OP's Christian-based "vision."

I have no opinion about abortion. That's your problem.
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If you have no bias towards abortion why are you so butthurt about the visionary having a negative perception of it?I'm pretty sure it's well known that we Christians are notoriously against abortion (AKA infant genocide)
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Really? I have to explain how the English language is used?

If you re-read my words, I pointed out the fact that the OP got his Christian agenda dig into his vision...which shows he has an agenda. I'm challenging his VISION, not his (or any) abortion issues.
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So christians are the only ones against abortion? Maybe that's in the vision because it's a FACT, one which your anti-christian mindset doesn't want to deal with?
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Alright...

I believe you! But!

How can you be sure to trust Him?

When I'm at my best, I have deep love, empathy and appreciation of the Demi-urge, but I'm also cautious of the masculine "god" being...

He always puts on such a display of grandeur, sort of vain and pushy...

So he's fine with paying a special visit to a chosen few and fear-mongering...

Love and forgiveness of course, what about subtle guilt? Implying a spiritual hierarchy by his stature and locale, wow sure sounds nice, that's too bad for us :(

Oh he created us and everything huh? But we're all infinite.

This being sounds like the pleasant face of Demi-urge which attempts to take credit for all of creation through mind-games, uses passive aggression, and uses love like a bait and lure.

The true unconditional loving source insists on equality with all beings, there is no difference between the grand waterfall and my shit in the toilet -as crazy as that sounds its actually true.

The true source would let you know language itself is a tool of control.

Would agree this world is a half-light world, not complete reality.

But the funny thing is I love this being dearly, he teaches us the different faces of the "snake" force, pretty and awful, so now we may know better, and we can find love for him even when we know the games he plays with us.

Has no problem using emotional strings does he?

Boy, I get frustrated with this being and our spot, but ultimately this experience allows for development of empathy and understanding of the most deceptive, most advanced predator and parasite system.

He's made it seem normal, lol, predator and prey, there's no other choice if you want to survive.

This is the hard truth IMO... And we came in here so we may know all, forgive all, be aware of all, including super advanced passive aggressive ego maniac creator gods, from the point of view as a subject from inside, if we can transcend this, make peace with this, we can handle anything existence can throw at us.

Ah, and I don't want to give him too much credit either, reality is not his, not an illusion, his control is a control of belief, if we believe this is all his, we are his finite creation below, that's good enough for him, this way we act as foundation to his illusory domain.

This all belongs to all of us, all is infinite, all is source, he has cornered off a section and set up sophisticated mind games to keep you convinced and give him the credit, quite the deceiver indeed!

So be careful! I wonder how many will actually make it through, gracefully thanking the Demi-urge on the way out with true unconditional love, balance and understanding- this is the cutting edge and most intense stage of evolution, which results in total liberation and understanding, returning to our full self outside this universe as we have accomplished what we came in here originally to do.

And those billions wrapped around his finger will loop over and over until they don't loop anymore...

peace
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You should keep it simple, and just listen to the good part of the heart.
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I know it's scary sounding but it's true.

Don't take my word for it you'll discover the same thing yourself one lifetime or another.

I was in "heaven" once, and I called them out, lovingly though, but still irritated, I demanded they reveal their true form to me.

They had the robes, golden pearly gates, clouds made of rainbows and white light - those are passive aggressive red flags, why are they trying to make a vain impression?

They tried to tell me I was Jesus, didn't fall for the ego trip, called them out we are all equals growing, there is no single Christ, in fact the chosen one ism has caused lots of problems.

They were shocked... Poof they were gone, except one stuck around, his robe was now brown, he was longer a muscular pristine white monk, but now a worried and desperate middle eastern bald man.

"Heaven" was now a dark brown and purple murky cavern if dim light...

He offered me great wealth if I would take him on as a spiritual advisor and give him a chance to explain himself.

I told him he just revealed himself further, why would he have anything to do with earth money? He looked shocked and had nothing to say.

I told him nice try and he should get going and he dissipated.

There's a lot of domains between here and outside this universe, and it's trickier than just listening to the goodness of your heart...
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I believe you, you just told me, you just listened to your heart, and you didn't fall for it.
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go for it.


how long did it take for you to type the original message?
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About half an hour straight from memory.

So were those words EXACTLY what you heard in your dream or did you summarize?
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No they were exact.

Until yesterday I only had a vague recall..like it was a vague dream.

then yesterday it like a neuron pathway was unclogged and I remebered every word and detail which until then I could not access.

It was so vivid I could remeber even the tone of the words...the feelings I felt..everything.
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go for it.


how long did it take for you to type the original message?
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About half an hour straight from memory.

So were those words EXACTLY what you heard in your dream or did you summarize?
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No they were exact.

Until yesterday I only had a vague recall..like it was a vague dream.

then yesterday it like a neuron pathway was unclogged and I remebered every word and detail which until then I could not access.

It was so vivid I could remeber even the tone of the words...the feelings I felt..everything.
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I believe you. Read many stories of those visiting Heaven and Hell. What speaks to many is that your hand is not out to be paid to hear what He showed you. Thanks.
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Awww you butt hurt when people tell it like it is fella?
Abortion ain't a chance,and it isn't merely disposing of some cells.Thats a human life being exterminated pal...deal with it.
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You're a retard. This is not a debate about abortion. It's about the OP's Christian-based "vision."

I have no opinion about abortion. That's your problem.
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If you have no bias towards abortion why are you so butthurt about the visionary having a negative perception of it?I'm pretty sure it's well known that we Christians are notoriously against abortion (AKA infant genocide)
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Really? I have to explain how the English language is used?

If you re-read my words, I pointed out the fact that the OP got his Christian agenda dig into his vision...which shows he has an agenda. I'm challenging his VISION, not his (or any) abortion issues.
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I think you're the one that needs a refresher course in English,seeing as you make zero sense.

How is being against abortion an agenda?Are you deluded enough to think Jesus wouldn't consider it murder?There is no agenda you nitwit.
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Total BS.

Jesus himself said he was not God.

And as a language person I always crack up at the "I AM" nonsense.
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99% of the world's christians believe Jesus is God. Take your erroneous Jehovah's Witnesses belief out of this thread please.

Jesus:

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last - Revelation 22:13
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I'm too bored to re-read the OPs visions... But he said that Jesus claimed to be God. The OP called Jesus the creator, and his Lord Creator.

Yet, the nest paragraph, the OPs vision jesus said he has a father who lives in heavens capital city.
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Is it true that have to "repent" and ask him into our
lives or are we already saved because He gave
His life for us? I believe there are no magic words
to say to be "saved" and what matters is believing
in him and doing what he wants us to do which is
love and forgive. I hope that's right or else I'm going
to a very warm place with burn ointment in hand.
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lol that sums up me too.
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You're a retard. This is not a debate about abortion. It's about the OP's Christian-based "vision."

I have no opinion about abortion. That's your problem.
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If you have no bias towards abortion why are you so butthurt about the visionary having a negative perception of it?I'm pretty sure it's well known that we Christians are notoriously against abortion (AKA infant genocide)
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Really? I have to explain how the English language is used?

If you re-read my words, I pointed out the fact that the OP got his Christian agenda dig into his vision...which shows he has an agenda. I'm challenging his VISION, not his (or any) abortion issues.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30852964


I think you're the one that needs a refresher course in English,seeing as you make zero sense.

How is being against abortion an agenda?Are you deluded enough to think Jesus wouldn't consider it murder?There is no agenda you nitwit.
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iamwith

The agenda is the Christian "vision" and proselytizing...for christs sake!

Either you're a govt troll that enjoys pissing people off or you really are a nitwit.

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