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You are not the original 535 - he wouldn't say that.

Don't you have your own identity? Or must you steal anothers?


BTW, OP, excellent post 5 stars.
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Then you are a fool.

The future is set, all is being done to concentrate the limited resources on Earth for the good of the few and elite.
Stand and be counted or fall.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


fixed that for ya
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


That is not true, from a certain point of view.

The aim is to save as many humans as possible while maximizing the limited resources available. The most worthwhile of causes I assure you.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


What point of view would that be? Those that look down upon the peons and think that they are nothing more that chattel?
WAKE UP AMERICA
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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All is negotiable, as it has always been.

The fallacy of a fixed set of laws that are somehow "inalienable" is the stuff of childish dreams.

The foolishness in thinking that anything is non-negotiable, in particular the rule of a nation, is arrogance.

Comply.
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rofl
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OK 535-I COMPLIED by whipping my cock out for you....Happy now?
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50% rule
There is a destructive, delusional meme spreading like a virus among many misguided Americans. It pushes the idea that government can pick and choose which rights codified in the Bill of Rights it wishes to recognize or discard on any given day.

This delusion is predicated on the concept that if a popular majority can be emotionally whipped into a frenzy over one particular right, then that right can simply be discarded and stricken from the Bill of Rights.

But no such power exists to discard any portion of the Bill of Rights, at least not without proper ratification by three-fourths of the fifty states. There is no such power found solely in the federal government. There is no such power placed solely in the executive branch, nor in Congress, nor in the White House.

The Bill of Rights describes a set of individual rights and liberties which are not granted by government, but recognized as DIVINE rights given to use by our Creator. Because government never granted the rights in the first place, it has no authority to take them away.

"The Framers of the Bill of Rights did not purport to "create" rights. Rather, they designed the Bill of Rights to prohibit our Government from infringing rights and liberties presumed to be preexisting." - William J Brennan Jr.

The individual liberties described in the Bill of Rights cannot be infringed, nor deleted, nor overridden by popular opinion... not even loudly screamed opinion. America is not a nation ruled by the tyranny of the mob. It isn't even a democracy -- it's a republic, where certain inalienable rights describe the protection of each individual, even if that individual is the lone voice of sanity in a majority gone mad. The Bill of Rights protects individuals from the tyranny of mob rule -- a phenomenon that routinely rears its head in any society where historical illiteracy is rampant and the masses are lulled into a state of complacency by charismatic but dishonest leaders.

It was the extended amendments attached to the Bill of Rights that outlawed slavery, guaranteeing individual freedom to those of African descent even in a time and place when the majority of voting citizens believed slavery was socially acceptable. And it was the Second Amendment that put firearms into the hands of those recently-freed slaves, ensuring that they could defend themselves against attackers of any color through the powerful expression of armed defense (aided by the laws of physics and certain materials from the table of elements, notably lead).

Another amendment beyond the Bill of Rights granted women equal voting rights in an age when the majority believed women should not be allowed to vote. It was the Bill of Rights that decriminalized prohibition, ending a dark era of mass criminalization of everyday citizens who suffered under the oppression of government law enforcement gone bad.

Yet today, incredibly, many African-Americans and women are actively assaulting the very document that first secured their own freedoms. They now wish to take their freedom and power and use it to enslave someone else by revoking other people's rights under the Bill of Rights. This is the ultimate social betrayal, and it is a powerful demonstration of the principle that those who do not respect freedom for others do not deserve it for themselves.

WAKE UP AMERICAmilitia
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clappa
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All is negotiable, as it has always been.

The fallacy of a fixed set of laws that are somehow "inalienable" is the stuff of childish dreams.

The foolishness in thinking that anything is non-negotiable, in particular the rule of a nation, is arrogance.

Comply.
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rofl
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s.d. should we take the time to explain that "in-alienable" and "un-alienable" are not the same thing?
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all legislation is subject to reforms.

any bill of rights is reformed legislation itself, thats how they exist.
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No. the BOR isn't "reformed legislation"
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All is negotiable, as it has always been.

The fallacy of a fixed set of laws that are somehow "inalienable" is the stuff of childish dreams.

The foolishness in thinking that anything is non-negotiable, in particular the rule of a nation, is arrogance.

Comply.
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Go fuck yourself. Comply
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The Right to Keep and Bear Arms -- much like the Right of
50% rule

[link to www.naturalnews.com]
Free Speech -- is not negotiable. Its protections are not subject to the whims of majority opinion, nor the screaming demands of hyperventilating media personalities. All the social media trolls and opinion writers in the world can comment all they want on the Second Amendment, yet the individual right to keep and bear arms remains immutable.

Just like the Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment is not negotiable. No Governor, Senator or President has any power whatsoever to banish the Second Amendment, and any who attempt to oppose it only brand themselves as criminal traitors to the United States of America. Any active effort to eradicate the Second Amendment outside of law -- without going through the proper process of state ratification for Constitutional amendments -- is, by definition, an act of sedition against the United States of America and its people.

Ironically, many who viciously attack the Second Amendment do so by invoking their free speech protections under the First Amendment. Yet they seem blind to the realization that the First Amendment itself is only made possible by the Second Amendment which balances power between the People and the government, ensuring that the individual right to bear arms serves as a check and balance against the monopoly of violence every government inherently seeks.

Disarmament of the populace is always the first step to depriving them of their civil rights and human rights. Without the right to bear arms, there is no right to free speech, no right to due process, no right to trial by jury and certainly no right to be secured against unreasonable search and seizure. A government with a monopoly of force is a government that respects no boundaries and honors no limits.

Grasping this point requires competent thinking, which is why so many who now flourish in America on the popularity of pop culture idiocy fail to understand it. It is intellectually lazy to blame gun rights for violence, requiring no depth of thought or reason. Only someone of higher awareness and possessing the aptitude for multi-layered thinking can realize the critical importance of distributed firepower in stopping government violence against the People. As Ron Paul recently said, "Government security is just another kind of violence."

Ron Paul gets it. He understands that an imbalance of power in the hands of government inevitably leads to mass violence waged against the People. Those who are currently screaming for the population to be disarmed do not realize that in seeking to prevent one kind of violence (school shootings), they are unleashing a far more disastrous and horrifying violence by allowing the government to monopolize physical power over the citizens. This is a mistake that has been repeated throughout history, often at the cost of tens of millions of destroyed lives. Click here to watch my short video documentary that lays out these facts in more detail.

The Second Amendment was put in place precisely for the purpose of making sure that future Americans would not fall for the same mistake yet again. That's why it is the second highest amendment, right after the right of free speech, indicating its crucial priority in the enumeration of sacred rights that must be protected at all costs.

The article is spot on the dot. Guess some of you folks need a good history lesson instead of the brainwashed ideaologies you have abhored to for so long.
WAKE UP AMERICAmilitia

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
WAKE UP AMERICA
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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You are not the original 535 - he wouldn't say that.

Don't you have your own identity? Or must you steal anothers?


BTW, OP, excellent post 5 stars.
 Quoting: Turtles Voice


Then you are a fool.

The future is set, all is being done to concentrate the limited resources on Earth for the good of the few and elite.
Stand and be counted or fall.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


fixed that for ya
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


That is not true, from a certain point of view.

The aim is to save as many humans as possible while maximizing the limited resources available. The most worthwhile of causes I assure you.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


Careful how long you stay. The last 535 gained a conscience afro
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The Right to Keep and Bear Arms -- much like the Right of
50% rule

[link to www.naturalnews.com]
Free Speech -- is not negotiable. Its protections are not subject to the whims of majority opinion, nor the screaming demands of hyperventilating media personalities. All the social media trolls and opinion writers in the world can comment all they want on the Second Amendment, yet the individual right to keep and bear arms remains immutable.

Just like the Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment is not negotiable. No Governor, Senator or President has any power whatsoever to banish the Second Amendment, and any who attempt to oppose it only brand themselves as criminal traitors to the United States of America. Any active effort to eradicate the Second Amendment outside of law -- without going through the proper process of state ratification for Constitutional amendments -- is, by definition, an act of sedition against the United States of America and its people.

Ironically, many who viciously attack the Second Amendment do so by invoking their free speech protections under the First Amendment. Yet they seem blind to the realization that the First Amendment itself is only made possible by the Second Amendment which balances power between the People and the government, ensuring that the individual right to bear arms serves as a check and balance against the monopoly of violence every government inherently seeks.

Disarmament of the populace is always the first step to depriving them of their civil rights and human rights. Without the right to bear arms, there is no right to free speech, no right to due process, no right to trial by jury and certainly no right to be secured against unreasonable search and seizure. A government with a monopoly of force is a government that respects no boundaries and honors no limits.

Grasping this point requires competent thinking, which is why so many who now flourish in America on the popularity of pop culture idiocy fail to understand it. It is intellectually lazy to blame gun rights for violence, requiring no depth of thought or reason. Only someone of higher awareness and possessing the aptitude for multi-layered thinking can realize the critical importance of distributed firepower in stopping government violence against the People. As Ron Paul recently said, "Government security is just another kind of violence."

Ron Paul gets it. He understands that an imbalance of power in the hands of government inevitably leads to mass violence waged against the People. Those who are currently screaming for the population to be disarmed do not realize that in seeking to prevent one kind of violence (school shootings), they are unleashing a far more disastrous and horrifying violence by allowing the government to monopolize physical power over the citizens. This is a mistake that has been repeated throughout history, often at the cost of tens of millions of destroyed lives. Click here to watch my short video documentary that lays out these facts in more detail.

The Second Amendment was put in place precisely for the purpose of making sure that future Americans would not fall for the same mistake yet again. That's why it is the second highest amendment, right after the right of free speech, indicating its crucial priority in the enumeration of sacred rights that must be protected at all costs.

The article is spot on the dot. Guess some of you folks need a good history lesson instead of the brainwashed ideaologies you have abhored to for so long.
WAKE UP AMERICAmilitia

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


Far too much is assumed here. Although I understand exactly your point of view, unfortunately it means nothing in the real world.

In the real world, much has been accomplished within many nations that previously would have been unheard of (including the United States).

The targeting of protesters.

The elimination of other heads of state.

The curtailing of free speech as hate crimes.

The curtailing of firearms in the hands of the commoner.

The elimination of internal heads of state that think in the manner which you have listed above.

The conquest of other nations for material gain.

The installation of governments.

The elimination of governments.

The appropriation of funds from the general treasury to the powerful

This could continue, but there is no point to it. Everyone reading this will comply if any potential new firearms laws are enacted. That is the reality of the situation.

There will be no fighting. No one here would dare pick-up a firearm against those in power, as it should be.

Your superiors are exactly that. Do not test the waters as you may be burnt.
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You are not the original 535 - he wouldn't say that.

Don't you have your own identity? Or must you steal anothers?


BTW, OP, excellent post 5 stars.
 Quoting: Turtles Voice


Then you are a fool.

The future is set, all is being done to concentrate the limited resources on Earth for the good of the few and elite.
Stand and be counted or fall.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


fixed that for ya
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


That is not true, from a certain point of view.

The aim is to save as many humans as possible while maximizing the limited resources available. The most worthwhile of causes I assure you.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


535 is an Agenda 21 Tard... And leftist fudgepacker.

Place system on ignore.
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The Right to Keep and Bear Arms -- much like the Right of
50% rule

[link to www.naturalnews.com]
Free Speech -- is not negotiable. Its protections are not subject to the whims of majority opinion, nor the screaming demands of hyperventilating media personalities. All the social media trolls and opinion writers in the world can comment all they want on the Second Amendment, yet the individual right to keep and bear arms remains immutable.

Just like the Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment is not negotiable. No Governor, Senator or President has any power whatsoever to banish the Second Amendment, and any who attempt to oppose it only brand themselves as criminal traitors to the United States of America. Any active effort to eradicate the Second Amendment outside of law -- without going through the proper process of state ratification for Constitutional amendments -- is, by definition, an act of sedition against the United States of America and its people.

Ironically, many who viciously attack the Second Amendment do so by invoking their free speech protections under the First Amendment. Yet they seem blind to the realization that the First Amendment itself is only made possible by the Second Amendment which balances power between the People and the government, ensuring that the individual right to bear arms serves as a check and balance against the monopoly of violence every government inherently seeks.

Disarmament of the populace is always the first step to depriving them of their civil rights and human rights. Without the right to bear arms, there is no right to free speech, no right to due process, no right to trial by jury and certainly no right to be secured against unreasonable search and seizure. A government with a monopoly of force is a government that respects no boundaries and honors no limits.

Grasping this point requires competent thinking, which is why so many who now flourish in America on the popularity of pop culture idiocy fail to understand it. It is intellectually lazy to blame gun rights for violence, requiring no depth of thought or reason. Only someone of higher awareness and possessing the aptitude for multi-layered thinking can realize the critical importance of distributed firepower in stopping government violence against the People. As Ron Paul recently said, "Government security is just another kind of violence."

Ron Paul gets it. He understands that an imbalance of power in the hands of government inevitably leads to mass violence waged against the People. Those who are currently screaming for the population to be disarmed do not realize that in seeking to prevent one kind of violence (school shootings), they are unleashing a far more disastrous and horrifying violence by allowing the government to monopolize physical power over the citizens. This is a mistake that has been repeated throughout history, often at the cost of tens of millions of destroyed lives. Click here to watch my short video documentary that lays out these facts in more detail.

The Second Amendment was put in place precisely for the purpose of making sure that future Americans would not fall for the same mistake yet again. That's why it is the second highest amendment, right after the right of free speech, indicating its crucial priority in the enumeration of sacred rights that must be protected at all costs.

The article is spot on the dot. Guess some of you folks need a good history lesson instead of the brainwashed ideaologies you have abhored to for so long.
WAKE UP AMERICAmilitia

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01



This could continue, but there is no point to it. Everyone reading this will comply if any potential new firearms laws are enacted. That is the reality of the situation.

There will be no fighting. No one here would dare pick-up a firearm against those in power, as it should be.

Your superiors are exactly that. Do not test the waters as you may be burnt.
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Wishful thinking on your part.
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All is negotiable, as it has always been.

The fallacy of a fixed set of laws that are somehow "inalienable" is the stuff of childish dreams.

The foolishness in thinking that anything is non-negotiable, in particular the rule of a nation, is arrogance.

Comply.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


But surely you would agree that any change to the Constitution (of which the Bill of Rights is an integral part) must be done by the process set out when the Constitution was ratified? If not, then we have nothing standing between us and tyranny! And yes, there is a process. That is how the constitution is amended!
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The Right to Keep and Bear Arms -- much like the Right of
50% rule

[link to www.naturalnews.com]
Free Speech -- is not negotiable. Its protections are not subject to the whims of majority opinion, nor the screaming demands of hyperventilating media personalities. All the social media trolls and opinion writers in the world can comment all they want on the Second Amendment, yet the individual right to keep and bear arms remains immutable.

Just like the Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment is not negotiable. No Governor, Senator or President has any power whatsoever to banish the Second Amendment, and any who attempt to oppose it only brand themselves as criminal traitors to the United States of America. Any active effort to eradicate the Second Amendment outside of law -- without going through the proper process of state ratification for Constitutional amendments -- is, by definition, an act of sedition against the United States of America and its people.

Ironically, many who viciously attack the Second Amendment do so by invoking their free speech protections under the First Amendment. Yet they seem blind to the realization that the First Amendment itself is only made possible by the Second Amendment which balances power between the People and the government, ensuring that the individual right to bear arms serves as a check and balance against the monopoly of violence every government inherently seeks.

Disarmament of the populace is always the first step to depriving them of their civil rights and human rights. Without the right to bear arms, there is no right to free speech, no right to due process, no right to trial by jury and certainly no right to be secured against unreasonable search and seizure. A government with a monopoly of force is a government that respects no boundaries and honors no limits.

Grasping this point requires competent thinking, which is why so many who now flourish in America on the popularity of pop culture idiocy fail to understand it. It is intellectually lazy to blame gun rights for violence, requiring no depth of thought or reason. Only someone of higher awareness and possessing the aptitude for multi-layered thinking can realize the critical importance of distributed firepower in stopping government violence against the People. As Ron Paul recently said, "Government security is just another kind of violence."

Ron Paul gets it. He understands that an imbalance of power in the hands of government inevitably leads to mass violence waged against the People. Those who are currently screaming for the population to be disarmed do not realize that in seeking to prevent one kind of violence (school shootings), they are unleashing a far more disastrous and horrifying violence by allowing the government to monopolize physical power over the citizens. This is a mistake that has been repeated throughout history, often at the cost of tens of millions of destroyed lives. Click here to watch my short video documentary that lays out these facts in more detail.

The Second Amendment was put in place precisely for the purpose of making sure that future Americans would not fall for the same mistake yet again. That's why it is the second highest amendment, right after the right of free speech, indicating its crucial priority in the enumeration of sacred rights that must be protected at all costs.

The article is spot on the dot. Guess some of you folks need a good history lesson instead of the brainwashed ideaologies you have abhored to for so long.
WAKE UP AMERICAmilitia

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


Far too much is assumed here. Although I understand exactly your point of view, unfortunately it means nothing in the real world.

In the real world, much has been accomplished within many nations that previously would have been unheard of (including the United States).

The targeting of protesters.

The elimination of other heads of state.

The curtailing of free speech as hate crimes.

The curtailing of firearms in the hands of the commoner.

The elimination of internal heads of state that think in the manner which you have listed above.

The conquest of other nations for material gain.

The installation of governments.

The elimination of governments.

The appropriation of funds from the general treasury to the powerful

This could continue, but there is no point to it. Everyone reading this will comply if any potential new firearms laws are enacted. That is the reality of the situation.

There will be no fighting. No one here would dare pick-up a firearm against those in power, as it should be.

Your superiors are exactly that. Do not test the waters as you may be burnt.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


535 = R Tard

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All is negotiable, as it has always been.

The fallacy of a fixed set of laws that are somehow "inalienable" is the stuff of childish dreams.

The foolishness in thinking that anything is non-negotiable, in particular the rule of a nation, is arrogance.

Comply.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


But surely you would agree that any change to the Constitution (of which the Bill of Rights is an integral part) must be done by the process set out when the Constitution was ratified? If not, then we have nothing standing between us and tyranny! And yes, there is a process. That is how the constitution is amended!
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Interesting composure of the question. I am mildly impressed.

Since you are an American citizen, that is the assumption. However, what has been proven time and time again is that these constitutional laws are quite flexible, depending on who is sitting within certain seats of power.

By this definition, the National Firearms Act is illegal, yet it has been complied with for over 3/4 of a century. Abortion is patently illegal, yet its "legality" is enforced with armed personnel. Any and all "per se" laws are completely contrary to the constitution of the United States, yet I assure you that if you break it, you will be hauled off in chains.

You proceed from a false assumption. It is not about legal or illegal. It is not about right or wrong. It never has been.

It is about the powerful doing what is necessary to protect the powerless... even if they do not understand why.
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All is negotiable, as it has always been.

The fallacy of a fixed set of laws that are somehow "inalienable" is the stuff of childish dreams.

The foolishness in thinking that anything is non-negotiable, in particular the rule of a nation, is arrogance.

Comply.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


rofl
 Quoting: s. d. butler

s.d. should we take the time to explain that "in-alienable" and "un-alienable" are not the same thing?
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Yes. And please correct or add as you see fit.

Inalienable rights are those that can be changed in some fashion by individual consent.

Unalienable rights such as those in the BOR and spoken of in the Declaration of Independence are God given rights that cannot be taken,transferred,given,bestowed,abridged or negotiated away by any government anywhere at any time for any reason.
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Far too much is assumed here. Although I understand exactly your point of view, unfortunately it means nothing in the real world.

In the real world, much has been accomplished within many nations that previously would have been unheard of (including the United States).

The targeting of protesters.

The elimination of other heads of state.

The curtailing of free speech as hate crimes.

The curtailing of firearms in the hands of the commoner.

The elimination of internal heads of state that think in the manner which you have listed above.

The conquest of other nations for material gain.

The installation of governments.

The elimination of governments.

The appropriation of funds from the general treasury to the powerful

This could continue, but there is no point to it. Everyone reading this will comply if any potential new firearms laws are enacted. That is the reality of the situation.

There will be no fighting. No one here would dare pick-up a firearm against those in power, as it should be.

Your superiors are exactly that. Do not test the waters as you may be burnt.
 Quoting: 535 1326993



And you assume to much in that there will be no fighting. What a joke.. 100+million firearms legally owned in the U.S. (approx 1/3rd of the entire population). Resistance may be futile, but, I can you assure that you're wrong in your hallow assumption that there will be no fighting.
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All is negotiable, as it has always been.

The fallacy of a fixed set of laws that are somehow "inalienable" is the stuff of childish dreams.

The foolishness in thinking that anything is non-negotiable, in particular the rule of a nation, is arrogance.

Comply.
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s.d. should we take the time to explain that "in-alienable" and "un-alienable" are not the same thing?
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Yes. And please correct or add as you see fit.

Inalienable rights are those that can be changed in some fashion by individual consent.

Unalienable rights such as those in the BOR and spoken of in the Declaration of Independence are God given rights that cannot be taken,transferred,given,bestowed,abridged or negotiated away by any government anywhere at any time for any reason.
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They are all inalienable... you simply do not know it yet.

God gave you nothing. Everything you have has been fought for with blood.

Take the battles of your forefathers to heart and understand that this battle is for a long term freedom and survival of as many as possible.

It is the highest of callings.
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NO.
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The bill of rights isn't legislation. It is the foundation of this country and not subject to change unless the states ratify it.

all legislation is subject to reforms.

any bill of rights is reformed legislation itself, thats how they exist.
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all legislation is subject to reforms.

any bill of rights is reformed legislation itself, thats how they exist.
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The American Bill of Rights are not negotiable,
because they define and put to paper, INHERENT
RIGHTS, not granted by government.
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The bill of rights isn't legislation. It is the foundation of this country and not subject to change unless the states ratify it.

all legislation is subject to reforms.

any bill of rights is reformed legislation itself, thats how they exist.
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Inherent rights exist independent of government or people's
ratification, inhibition, modification, influence, etc.
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NO.
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You are on the wrong side. A side that has failed the pass thousands of years. Stop while you are ahead.
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NO.
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You are on the wrong side. A side that has failed the pass thousands of years. Stop while you are ahead.
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There are no sides. There is only those that survive, and those that do not.

That is the nature of things.
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More like 250+ million firearms.

Far too much is assumed here. Although I understand exactly your point of view, unfortunately it means nothing in the real world.

In the real world, much has been accomplished within many nations that previously would have been unheard of (including the United States).

The targeting of protesters.

The elimination of other heads of state.

The curtailing of free speech as hate crimes.

The curtailing of firearms in the hands of the commoner.

The elimination of internal heads of state that think in the manner which you have listed above.

The conquest of other nations for material gain.

The installation of governments.

The elimination of governments.

The appropriation of funds from the general treasury to the powerful

This could continue, but there is no point to it. Everyone reading this will comply if any potential new firearms laws are enacted. That is the reality of the situation.

There will be no fighting. No one here would dare pick-up a firearm against those in power, as it should be.

Your superiors are exactly that. Do not test the waters as you may be burnt.
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And you assume to much in that there will be no fighting. What a joke.. 100+million firearms legally owned in the U.S. (approx 1/3rd of the entire population). Resistance may be futile, but, I can you assure that you're wrong in your hallow assumption that there will be no fighting.
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You are on the wrong side. A side that has failed the pass thousands of years. Stop while you are ahead.
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There are no sides. There is only those that survive, and those that do not.

That is the nature of things.
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Your right, The ones that survive are the ones with firearms.
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rofl
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s.d. should we take the time to explain that "in-alienable" and "un-alienable" are not the same thing?
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Yes. And please correct or add as you see fit.

Inalienable rights are those that can be changed in some fashion by individual consent.

Unalienable rights such as those in the BOR and spoken of in the Declaration of Independence are God given rights that cannot be taken,transferred,given,bestowed,abridged or negotiated away by any government anywhere at any time for any reason.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


They are all inalienable... you simply do not know it yet.

God gave you nothing. Everything you have has been fought for with blood.

Take the battles of your forefathers to heart and understand that this battle is for a long term freedom and survival of as many as possible.

It is the highest of callings.
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God gave us all with his Son's blood. It is finished.

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