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THE BILL OF RIGHTS IS NON NEGOTIABLE - read this NOW!!!!

 
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Justice Clarence Thomas made the point that the right to bear arms was critical to newly freed slaves during Reconstruction and that the 14th Amendment guaranteed that state law could not trump federal law in such matters, that federal citizenship trumped state citizenship. Immediately following emancipation, southern states, controlled wholly by Democrats had sought to pass a multitude of state laws to prevent blacks from acquiring firearms and, thus, the ability to protect themselves.

Not ironically, it is again the Democrat Party standing at the ready to disarm the citizenry. The KKK mobs, the white supremacist mobs that terrorize blacks back then will simply be replaced by the New Black Panthers and labor union mobs of today.
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Justice Clarence Thomas made the point that the right to bear arms was critical to newly freed slaves during Reconstruction and that the 14th Amendment guaranteed that state law could not trump federal law in such matters, that federal citizenship trumped state citizenship. Immediately following emancipation, southern states, controlled wholly by Democrats had sought to pass a multitude of state laws to prevent blacks from acquiring firearms and, thus, the ability to protect themselves.

Not ironically, it is again the Democrat Party standing at the ready to disarm the citizenry. The KKK mobs, the white supremacist mobs that terrorize blacks back then will simply be replaced by the New Black Panthers and labor union mobs of today.
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The sad thing is blacks will not see they are getting played. They are too angry and will not see their available choices. They have a choice, to turn down rap, affirmative action., and the lies. But they fall right into the plan, and don't flourish. They will consistently do everything they are not supposed to do ( not all blacks of course) like vote for Obama even though they don't really know why.. And be angry towards whites even though blacks sold them as slaves as well, and give in to popular black media/ culture ., that hurts them ... It's a shame
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Justice Clarence Thomas made the point that the right to bear arms was critical to newly freed slaves during Reconstruction and that the 14th Amendment guaranteed that state law could not trump federal law in such matters, that federal citizenship trumped state citizenship. Immediately following emancipation, southern states, controlled wholly by Democrats had sought to pass a multitude of state laws to prevent blacks from acquiring firearms and, thus, the ability to protect themselves.
Not ironically, it is again the Democrat Party standing at the ready to disarm the citizenry. The KKK mobs, the white supremacist mobs that terrorize blacks back then will simply be replaced by the New Black Panthers and labor union mobs of today.
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Indeed
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WAKE UP AMERICA!

In six days this Feinstein bill will be introduced into the house. It is the 1994 ban on steroids and even if they can't pass the whole thing they will try and meet on some of the proposals or be sneaky and slip it in behind some other bill.

WAKE UP AMERICA
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Do Obama supporters even know what Obama care really consists of and are they really aware of all the executive orders he has signed?
Doubt it
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bump and 5 stars! Good post.
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READ THIS!

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If you disagree then you are an Enemy of America and need to be thrown in prison for TREASON.
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hell yeah!
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If it is non-negotiable then why is there so many amendments? How about you ask the native americans what they think about it.
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If it is non-negotiable then why is there so many amendments? How about you ask the native americans what they think about it.
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The ONLY way to ban guns is via a Constitutional Amendment that would effectively have to say that the Founding Fathers were wrong and that no inherent right exists to protect one's self. Congress and / or POTUS cannot do it by passing laws. Neither can the states. The 14th Amendment re-affirms the 2nd Amendment in that regard. US citizenship trumps state citizenship.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws".
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:bumps:
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Thank you OP!!!


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PIN WORTHY MATERIAL, that any Freedom Loving American Citizen should be foaming at the mouth over..

PIN IT!
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Indeed it is.

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The first ten amendments to the Constitution make up the Bill of Rights. The Constitution changes constantly.
Interpretations are made by the Supreme Court.

Freedom of Speech
Freedom of the Press
Freedom of Religion
The right to keep and bear arms
Due Process of Law
Protection of Individual privacy

NON-NEGOTIABLE???

NOT!
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The first ten amendments to the Constitution make up the Bill of Rights. The Constitution changes constantly.
Interpretations are made by the Supreme Court.

Freedom of Speech
Freedom of the Press
Freedom of Religion
The right to keep and bear arms
Due Process of Law
Protection of Individual privacy
NON-NEGOTIABLE???

NOT!
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Yet they just renewed the wire tap bill.America is fucked 5a
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i concur , case settled
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Absolutely top notch article, thanks for posting that.
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The linked article is full of noble sounding phrases but is incorrect. The Bill of Rights were not handed to Americans on tablets from some old bearded White man calling himself God. Madison's bill of rights were adopted by actions of the people to amend the Constitution. By becoming a part of the Constitution, those Rights cemented themselves into the foundation of government. So YES the government does grant those rights. But since in the final analysis the Government is the people; don't sweat the small stuff.

The Bill of Rights are certainly subject to negotiation via judicial review. As Justice Holmes pointed out the 1st Amendment does not protect the speech of someone who fraudulently cries "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. And here lately the SCOTUS has granted a federal right to own a gun to those who are not a part of a well ordered militia. If that is not a renegotiation of the 2nd Amendment I would not know what is.

I am hardly an enemy of America but the OP might inadvertently be one since he/she has obviously not done his/her homeworker. Jefferson weeps.
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READ THIS!

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

If you disagree then you are an Enemy of America and need to be thrown in prison for TREASON.
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"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined". -Patrick Henry, 1788
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Dictators and tyrants love a disarmed citizenry. So, if it is to be argued that the constitution is an evolving document, then it must be evolved to make the right to bear arms an absolute right of the people as a counter weight to tyrants and power drunk, run amock administrations' attempts at destroying our freedoms.
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Just in case no one has brought this up, those are not all of your rights. You have lots more. Those are just the ones the framers thougt the government and the idiot masses might try to infringe upon. That is why they enumerated those ones in particular. Yes licensing is an infringement. Rights don't cost you anything, you can't be charged by the government to exercise them. Travel is a right as well. In the customary way, that would be in a private car while driving it. Don't let them bullshit you into thinking they can infringe on your rights for your protection.
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exactly and good post
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The linked article is full of noble sounding phrases but is incorrect. The Bill of Rights were not handed to Americans on tablets from some old bearded White man calling himself God. Madison's bill of rights were adopted by actions of the people to amend the Constitution. By becoming a part of the Constitution, those Rights cemented themselves into the foundation of government. So YES the government does grant those rights. But since in the final analysis the Government is the people; don't sweat the small stuff.

The Bill of Rights are certainly subject to negotiation via judicial review. As Justice Holmes pointed out the 1st Amendment does not protect the speech of someone who fraudulently cries "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. And here lately the SCOTUS has granted a federal right to own a gun to those who are not a part of a well ordered militia. If that is not a renegotiation of the 2nd Amendment I would not know what is.

I am hardly an enemy of America but the OP might inadvertently be one since he/she has obviously not done his/her homeworker. Jefferson weeps.
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People are ever eager to be slaves.
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Interesting to see 535 has returned.

That said, freedom comes from the willingness to say no, and to back that statement up with non-compliance.

So you are saying we need to give up freedom in order for humanity to survive?
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Listen no one is making me take out my adopted Rights in Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, just to scratch out freedoms, and put in zero freedom.

Its stashed away, where no one can change them. The paper doth not Rot nor Rust,nor is it in a warehouse, but has become an erected Fort of Freedom, hanging out in the Mind's Eye.

You come to my house / mansion, without a inkling of paperwork to substantiate my consent, and you will put the fear of Life in my mind, as you try to break down my door mafia style.

That leaves me but one option, DEFENCE of Lives...

Anyone comes with guns, is mafia .

No amount of lies and deceit will change the truth.

I have the Right to defend my state of life.

I will not die to satisfy someones ideas of ultimate control.

The Constitution is Real, We have Reconstituted and we're not orange juice.

We are True Americans doing what Americans do. ...
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We have a right to defend ourselves, our lives and possessions and families, that requires no written law and nobody can take away without our consent.
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Interesting to see 535 has returned.

That said, freedom comes from the willingness to say no, and to back that statement up with non-compliance.

So you are saying we need to give up freedom in order for humanity to survive?
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It's what the libtards want. They will be very pissed as will this administration when they realize most Law Abiding citizens respect our constitution and will not surrender our firearms.
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The linked article is full of noble sounding phrases but is incorrect. The Bill of Rights were not handed to Americans on tablets from some old bearded White man calling himself God. Madison's bill of rights were adopted by actions of the people to amend the Constitution. By becoming a part of the Constitution, those Rights cemented themselves into the foundation of government. So YES the government does grant those rights. But since in the final analysis the Government is the people; don't sweat the small stuff.

The Bill of Rights are certainly subject to negotiation via judicial review. As Justice Holmes pointed out the 1st Amendment does not protect the speech of someone who fraudulently cries "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. And here lately the SCOTUS has granted a federal right to own a gun to those who are not a part of a well ordered militia. If that is not a renegotiation of the 2nd Amendment I would not know what is.

I am hardly an enemy of America but the OP might inadvertently be one since he/she has obviously not done his/her homeworker. Jefferson weeps.
 Quoting: lunatex



Government can't "grant" fundamental inherent rights. If you claim govt can, then you are also saying govt can take them away. They cannot do this. Fundamental rights aren't given by man made institutions. People already possess them.


The BOR aren't subject to judicial review or worse negotiation. If you yell fire in a crowded theatre and there is no fire,a crime has been committed. But the crime isn't the exercise of the 1st amendment.

SCOTUS did not "grant" the individual right in the Heller
decision. They recognized it as an existing inherent human right.

In the final analysis the government is separate from the American people. It exists of,by and for itself. It has its own agenda and its own priorities.

Occasionally the interests coincide but not usually.

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