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What ACTUAL revolution in the USA would look like. NOTHING like most here post.

 
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Not disagreeing with the main premise, but the situation is somewhat different if the rebels obtain military equipment and know how to use it.
If the Air Force SAC base command defects for example in Minot. That is the concern in a civil war. Will nuclear weapons be used to defend the Republic?

Aside from this possibility there is always irregular partisan warfare, harassing and intimidating murders of military officers or political leaders or family members by well armed civilians. While not a win for the old Republic exactly, it would doubtlessly be quite satisfying for the teenager carrying the gun to kill an enemy general.

Overall however, this is an absurdity since there is no rallying point-back to the Constitution will not work, power to the States might work but then the problem of governance arises once more. People are fairly incapable most of the time, so reconstituting a polity during wartime brings a host of problems the Founding Fathers and Honest Abe never faced.
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Once the executions of the traitors to the constitution and country end ... those that step forward will know that there are consequences for actions.

Do not think there are not people out there that are capable of showing direction in this country and rebuilding it in its proper form... there are many.
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Great post, OP.

History is replete with examples of rag-tag bands of unorganized citizenry overcoming large, technologically superior, professionally trained militaries.

So many examples, but a quick few that will resonate with most intelligent posters here - Viet Cong, Taliban, Colonial 'minutemen' during the American Revolution.

It is said that a military commander's worst nightmare is block after block of entrenched armed riflemen.

Here's another interesting tidbit...

Who out there reading this knew that Wisconsin State deer hunters are the 8th largest army in the world?

That's only the state of Wisconsin.

[link to www.newberlinnow.com]

Add to this number: hunters from the other 49 states. Active US military who will not comply with citizen disarmament, veteran military who will not stand for citizen disarmament, active police who will not comply with citizen disarmament, retired police who will not stand for citizen disarmament.

Figure in the recent number of gun sales across the United States. Go to your favorite gun store or sporting goods store and see how much ammunition there is available. If you've not done so yet, I seriously encourage it. It's surprising to see so many empty shelves and gun display racks.

Both 'sides' need to understand that there's no reason for any new gun laws in the United States.
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A storm is coming OP for sure.I Will turn to prayer to the one that give me my Freedom.5 stars .PIN THIS.
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Yes.

This Christmas was ominously quiet. People here were not shopping, retail was a bust all over the states, I read.

People were not moving around, not putting up lights. Dec 24, usually the panic last minute buying crush, was like a Tues June 14 --- nothing in particular happening. I saw one store manager going outside to look around several times.

I mentioned it to my husband, who is not gifted with a lot of intuition, that it was so quiet .. I did not want to say like the calm before the storm ... but that is just what he said.

I agree that people will not try to go up against tanks with hunting rifles. That is dumb. Too dumb to even think about.

For those who do not understand, go watch the movie 'Ghandi' on Youtube [link to www.youtube.com] and you will see that it is not necessary to fire a shot to win you freedom.

For those who think that there will be gunfire but superior military power will prevail, I suggest you learn to spell Afghanistan.

Say your prayers, everybody, for a peaceful resolution, not a bloody revolution.
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Wow! Makes a lot of Sence. My favorite qoute though was" "Crazyasspeople DON'T NEED ASSAULT WEAPONS to do serious damage to society" this is what ive been telling anyone who will listen.

I lived in the DC suburbs durring the sniper attacts. It was total chaos! People would duck behind their cars while getting gas. They'd only get gas if they were empty then it was so traumatic even when nothing happenened. No recess for kids all afterschool activities cancelled. Malls and stores were empty because no one wanted to leave the safty of their homes. I can only imagine what craziness an organised wide scale multiple attracts would cause.

Unfortanatly our govt forgot they work for us. I fear this latest power grab may tip the scales and people will not put up with it. Scarry times ahead.
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Like most people here, you don't know what you're
talking about.
Most of the 80 million people in America who are
very well armed are ex-military.
Do you think we don't know what we're doing?
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That is what they think, because that is the bullshit that is pounded into their heads by the MSM.. we are just crazy PTSD stricken shitbags that are heavily medicated..

Fuck it.. let them keep thinking that.
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stop voting folks. no votes and the system is null and void. then a new system has to emerge with new voices. independent voices not the red/blue con trick, its really that easy. the government has zero power unless the people give it power.
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15 million people woke up during the last election. Despite the most expensive campaign ever, and despite extending "Election Day" for a month, the System couldn't even muster a plurality.

It's a rigged game and people know it.
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Doesn't anyone remember that the Soviet Union fell apart in a week? No one would predicted that! The people even attacked the dreaded KGB and the files from that agency were blowing about in the street!

This is related to Chaos theory... it is impossible to predict the straw that breaks a camels back. It would be wise for all concerned to NOT load too much weight on the camel!
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I know this series was fiction..BUT sometimes fiction mimics real life..William W. Johnstone -- Ashes Series

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Doesn't anyone remember that the Soviet Union fell apart in a week? No one would predicted that! The people even attacked the dreaded KGB and the files from that agency were blowing about in the street!

This is related to Chaos theory... it is impossible to predict the straw that breaks a camels back. It would be wise for all concerned to NOT load too much weight on the camel!
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Black Swan.

And we have a flock of the little buggers flying right at us.

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I wonder how many people are learning how to make black powder, rdx or some other explosives right now? How many are buying acid or poison? How many are making timers or getting their rc planes and boats ready? How many are looking up the addresses of their cowardly sold out con gressman or reps? How many deep where they live know they can pull the trigger with full intent of blowing someones head off or lite the fuse that will take down a bridge, or poor that cup of antifreeze into the punchbowl? Are we all killers if the right buttons are pushed - I think so, and buttons are being pushed right now that are readying the first wave of the jehad against satan's sons.
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The Clinton administration put in much the same gun control legislation as is being proposed currently, in 1994... and nothing happened, life just went on as usual.

whatever
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Like most people here, you don't know what you're
talking about.
Most of the 80 million people in America who are
very well armed are ex-military.
Do you think we don't know what we're doing?
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That is what they think, because that is the bullshit that is pounded into their heads by the MSM.. we are just crazy PTSD stricken shitbags that are heavily medicated..

Fuck it.. let them keep thinking that.
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I think our ex and some current military will be leading us! Thank you both in advance! And thank you for your past service!
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I wonder how many people are learning how to make black powder, rdx or some other explosives right now? How many are buying acid or poison? How many are making timers or getting their rc planes and boats ready? How many are looking up the addresses of their cowardly sold out con gressman or reps? How many deep where they live know they can pull the trigger with full intent of blowing someones head off or lite the fuse that will take down a bridge, or poor that cup of antifreeze into the punchbowl? Are we all killers if the right buttons are pushed - I think so, and buttons are being pushed right now that are readying the first wave of the jehad against satan's sons.
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It's a sure bet people who are preparing aren't talking much on the internet...secrets
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The gun bans and prepper bashing in the media is propaganda. They are using reverse psychology to secretly trick people to prepare for an upcoming earth changing disaster.


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Here's how the revolution will go down: Half the people will be hired and equiped to fight and kill the people who are revolting. This scenario represents the best of all worlds for the people being revolted against because they will have ALL of their enemies fighting and destroying each other. Essentially the people being revolted against could care less about right, or left, liberal or conservative, Christian or athiest, black or white, these are merely convenient handles to get people to fight against each other. Meanwhile they, the overlords, will be nowhere to be found as they will be securely esconced in their numerous hidyholes around the world. Peace, and enjoy the revolution.
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The Clinton administration put in much the same gun control legislation as is being proposed currently, in 1994... and nothing happened, life just went on as usual.

whatever
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VERY different situation..Good economy during the Clinton years. Now we are all scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
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The Clinton administration put in much the same gun control legislation as is being proposed currently, in 1994... and nothing happened, life just went on as usual.

whatever
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True, but you're not taking the whole of the matter into account.

For one thing, there was (at the time) an unprecedented 'run' on firearms in the US. It's much like what we're seeing this very day in the US.

More importantly, this proposed legislation cuts to the heart. Registration and fingerprinting for 'grandfathered' weapons. That's a whole other kettle of fish, and it's probably hard to understand if you've not been raised in the so-called "gun culture" like myself and so many others who post here. However, we are well aware that registration leads directly to confiscation.

Have you been reading what we're posting on this forum? Do you think it's a lie that firearms sales are at record levels in the US?

It doesn't take a real genius to come to the conclusion that we're pretty serious about our guns here in the States.

Now, that being said, I think I'm through trying to converse with Australians and those of you from the UK. You people don't seem to quite get it, and no amount of evidence we provide seems to reveal even the smallest hint of neuroplasticity from the citizens of your countries. That in and of itself is alarming. It doesn't bode well for your countrymen.
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The Clinton administration put in much the same gun control legislation as is being proposed currently, in 1994... and nothing happened, life just went on as usual.

whatever
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Except the part about registering guns this time, dumb ass...
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The "masses starving in the streets" will gladly give up their guns and drop dime on their neighbors that have hidden guns in return for 3 squares and a cot in a FEMA camp.

Anything but starvation, anything but that.
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Didn't Henry Kissinger, advisor to presidents for decades, say something like that a long time ago?
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-- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei
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Taking out the power to several states would only hurt the civvy population, not the military.

The biggest threat people face is not getting blown up by military tanks but the fact that no one has access to the food supply unless they already have a garden. At any moment, the govt can freeze your accounts and then you have no food or anything.

The way an actual revolution would look is people starving in the streets because their credit cards don't work any more.
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I think you missed the point.
Guerrilla Warfare Theory, is to upset the civilian populace, in that the government can not "protect" them and their idyllic lives, causing them to join the revolt.
This is any governments worst nightmare.
It is often a part of the Communist Revolutionary's play book.

Disrupt the social and economic structure enough and it will collapse under its own weight.
The Military has devised "Plans" to combat this, but most are ineffective.
Vietnam and Iraq and Afghanistan are the most prominent failures. Some limited success was found in Central and South America against the Communists.

To the original point:

Deprive American's of Electricity and their creature comforts, create panic, and force the Military to put troops and checkpoints on every corner, and you will have a recipe for disaster. At some point even the "sheep", would fight back.

Let's all work to ensure that it never comes to this!
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The act of discussion and causing controversy causes one to feel like they have done something towards a goal. This leads to someone not taking action instead.
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I've said this before, to all who think they'll be safe at home. Living off the land. They will get you. They won't go for you in your home, they will pick you up when your away from home, when you are vunerable.

Or they will pick up your family when your out hunting and then clean out your house. clean out your guns, groceries, fuel, maybe even clothes.

And honestly with this administration I don't think it will be done by other American's. There are alot of people in this world (syrians, iranians, russians, africans, etc)that would love to come here, form militias and go door to door, farm to farm,and not only take everything you have, but kill, maim, torture and rape everyone they can.

They've ruin everything in their own countries and would kill(pun intended) for a chance to do the same to ours.

Revolution isn't romantic or pretty, those who call for it, IMO are calling for death and hardships even on their own families.

Some may have guns, but what is a gun in the face of a rocket propelled launcher or a tank driving into your house. My suggestion would be ham radios, so if they did start "The gathering" you could find others and then organize. Untill then have a plan, talk to people all over the country who are of a like mind. You may need them.
And by and by Christopher Robin came to an end of things, and he was silent, and he sat there, looking out over the world, just wishing it wouldn't stop.

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Because our military does so good against afghanis. And our military could care less about them.
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Ok OP GREAT POST except that when you said
"A group of people (say 50) even armed to the teeth have NO CHANCE of going up against a military unit or even heavily militarized police force with heavy weapons. This would work out just as well as say 50 people with handguns would do against a single tank.... not well. Head to head would NOT be the way I think people would go about taking down the beast....."
Thats bullshit man 50 men is 2 fucking platoons!! What do you think the militia/resistance would use? spitballs!?!! AR-15's are just semi auto versions of the M-4... LOL if you hit what you shoot at it goes down. BUT lucky for the resistance more than half will be using in addition to .223 are AK, 308, 50bmg, 30-06, 300 win mag and MANY other high power calibers that penetrate kevlar and can kill with one hit reliably at GREAT RANGE beyond .223 This isn't the civil war era anymore where hundreds of men are used in engagements, modern military's use the TEN MAN SQUAD as a base unit. Also 50 men in a unit would be rare as hell in the beginning, 3-5 man teams, pairs and loners will be the norm and WILL BE EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE if they have any tactical sense what so ever.

OP I'd advise a study in modern guerrilla tactics if you would like to brush up on your analysis ability's. 50 men using proper tactics with just average aim and average hunting rifles would be HELL absolute HELL to deal with in a single state let alone a million country wide which I think is the minimum that would resist.
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It'll get worse before it gets better.
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If it were actually about pro-guns or anti-guns it would be a different story. TPTB know damn well that gun control does not work on the people actually committing gun murders, they are simply using this & escalating it with FF's to disarm the populace. One has to ask a deeper question...

Why is the same government who sells assault weapons to drug cartels & terrorists, allowing illegals to come here & releasing violent offenders into our streets & at the same time "attempting", (I say attempt because they will never get what they want), to take our right to have weapons from us?

People very much need to read history as it always repeats itself and if the sheeple think for a second that some of us are not willing to die for that right, then they are sadly mistaken.
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It really amazes me. People are so far to one side of reality or the other that what I believe would be reality itself is basically seldom represented.

On one hand you have your very hard stance folks that say "from my cold dead hands" and have basically drawn a hard line in the sand over gun issues. They basically envision a "great resistance" where gun owners will go barrel to barrel fighting those coming to confiscate their weapons.

On the other hand you have those that really think disarming themselves and follow citizens is a great idea. Personally I can not understand how someone can think this way given history and what armed governments have done time and time again to their populations, but alas they still think it is a good idea. They believe that people will just "hand over their guns" when it is demanded of them by the federal govt. I suppose they have not been following how successful the govts "War on Drugs" has gone and how everyone "handed over their drugs".

The basic point is there will be people on both sides of the fence. But there will be one thing CERTAIN.... there will still be million of "illegal" firearms on the street and they will still be available to those that decide to use them for a mass act of violence .... just as much a car will be too if they want to use that for a act of mass violence.

Now, the one thing that is not really discussed is those folks that will be SO MAD that they will be ready for a revolution... a serious fight against the fed govt. They will be ready to fight but I don't think it will go down the way a lot of you THINK it will go down.... let me explain.

A group of people (say 50) even armed to the teeth have NO CHANCE of going up against a military unit or even heavily militarized police force with heavy weapons. This would work out just as well as say 50 people with handguns would do against a single tank.... not well. Head to head would NOT be the way I think people would go about taking down the beast.....

In my opinion they would simply collapse everything to the point the beast would be unable to maintain any order and control any longer....

And how do I think they would do this? Well I sat and thought to myself for entertainment purposes that if people were forced into a corner what could they REALLY do to fight back against such a superior force?

Well, for example, what would happen if someone took down say 2 or 3 high tension main power line towers? These things are in the middle of nowhere (not really monitored) and would take out multiple STATES if the correct ones were selected... NO POWER in multiple states = BAD NEWS. This involved no guns, no confronting superior forces... nothing. An in and out in the middle of the night.

I guess what I am getting at is with hundred of thousands of people that I assume will react against what the govt is proposing to do (if not a few million) they could literally overwhelm the system to the point that they would need to do nothing more than thump on the head the very basic and fragile underlying "support structure" (trucking, power, banking, etc) to do enough damage to make it impossible for them to operate.

Do you remember what a shitstorm the "DC Sniper" caused? That was a couple people in a trunk. Can you imagine if the same shit started happening again to people at gas pumps, ATM machines, etc etc. Coupled with power lines coming down and other crazy shit. What about if they started to vaporize gas stations? People stop filling their cars with gas and going to work, school, etc out of fear of going up in a fireball. See my point? AND WERE "ASSAULT WEAPONS" used for any of this? NOPE. Crazy ass people DON'T NEED ASSAULT WEAPONS to do serious damage to society. Remember an IQ test is *NOT* required to run for office. I have listened to a number of Senators and House Reps talk about things and I can tell you they are not sharp enough that they should be working in a sewer plant let along representing people in govt. They just don't GET IT. Think about the house rep that really thought the island of Guam could "capsize". SERIOUSLY? Did you not get it at age, oh say 5, that islands can not tip over?!?!?! The lack of intelligence in D.C. is frightening.

This is what worries me. I am far less concerned about the govts DIRECT action than the side effects INDIRECTLY that would be caused by people fighting back. I really do believe the govt is going to rely way to much on their "technological advantage" and "superior weapons". It does not take technology nor weapons to take down a large bloated INEFFICIENT system that can not operate or make a decision without major effort. Small fast moving groups of people even without weapons I think are going to be a MAJOR thorn in their side.

When people start to live in a State of hell and the govt is not able to help with that pain (because they are basically powerless to what these people will most likely do to them) is when the MAJORITY will turn against their controllers... and that is when they will totally lose control.

People are not complete idiots. I can just not see any group (even the big militia groups) making strategy that would at all involve direct confrontation with the Fed govts assets. Millions of people can not be monitored (and I am not taking Internet BS with monitoring emails and stupid shit -- I am talking out, moving about and doing what they feel need to be done in real life). 50,000 - 250,000 people will have no hope against containing tens of millions.

I wrote this only because I am just basically tired of reading posts by people that say stuff like "You will just puss out and hand over your weapons and be a good slave." To those folks I think you are really missing the picture of what I think will be a more realistic picture of people fighting back.... weapons not even necessary. I think this is a huge point people are missing.

I personally wish both sides would just "wise up" and back down. To the FED GOVT there is NO REASON for you to be going after your own population in the way you are and treating the masses like common criminals. You may think your MSM mouthpiece is working, but it is not. 95% of people I talk to on a daily basis now see through the BS and see what you are doing for face value. Oh BTW, they are basically not happy and most are pissed off. These may not all be people that will directly resist you but I CAN tell you they are certainly not going to HELP YOU. Back off these attacks on the people or I think it will in the end not work out the way you were hoping.

To the people, don't give up. Remember the govt is nothing more than PEOPLE. The govt is you, your neighbors and community. Govt is formed from the BOTTOM UP. Every IRS agent, every TSA agent, every DHS agent, postman, state public works person, code enforcement officer, water treatment plant worker, military men and women, etc etc.... these are all our neighbors. They work and live among us. There is a breaking point when even these folks with have to sit and look into the eyes of their children, wives and husbands and take real stock of what they are doing. What they are doing to their own families and the ones that live around them. A "job" is only a "job" in a functioning environment.

Personally I think we are approaching a point where there are going to be a lot of massive changes. The people have woke and can see what is taking place. What will they do? I think they will do as Americans have for a long time... adapt and deal with the problems at hand. How will they do this? I really don't know but one thing I can be certain of is that they will most likely use tactics and methods that none of us have even thought of.... and that includes the "people" among us that happen to "be employed" by government.

Interesting times ahead, I only hope that for all of us people start to wise up (this means you too govt) and return our country to the once wonderful place it used to be where you could live your life without an environment like depicted in the book 1984. The alternative will be a place I don't think ANY of us want to live -- and once again yes that means for your govt too. :)

Just a rant and some thoughts. Let us all hope that humans, for once, use their brains and find a peaceful solution for all of us that is acceptable to all of us.
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Take out military communications. Jam and hack the satellites.
No gunfire needed.
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Dude WW III has already started, as has been shown by repeated operations by foreign agents in this country.

These are continually covered up by a gaggle of media goons.

We are rattling along at the top of Peak Oil, from here there will be "Prcipitous Decline" of population.

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Or, more likely a grinding spiral of decay that could take decades until an equalibrium is established.

Revoloution? You are in the middle of one. A revoloution of grinding despotism, debauchery, graft, corruption, decay.

AGAIN, These are continually covered up by a gaggle of media goons.

NOTHING "Grows" continously, so when you hear the word "GROWTH", stop for a minute and contemplate what the deviant is REALLY SAYING!

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Power going out would benefit the uprising. The government uses it as much as we do and they always use it to spy on us. Day one my goal would be to have spies in every major city take down electric plants and then push blame on the government. You need to even out the field a little and no power is a good way to start. Also you would want spies within the military that can give ya heads up on attacks and such. Even in modern warfare a good militia can do alot of damage. Making friends with another nation with some military power could work too. Set a emp over the us to tak out all satilites, and electronic. At this point its a ground gorilla war. Alot of people would die no doubt, but its possible just look at the revolutionary war. The odds were stacked against us then as well.
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As sad as it may be - neighbors/ other members of the populous will provide the necessary momentum for greater governmental involvement in your life.

Have we already forgotten the "see something / say something" campaign? Even Wal-Mart is complicit with airing the videos. The conditioning process is well underway, and is eaten up by the masses believing they are doing "the right thing", while also ensuring their position alongside their providers.

Have we forgotten the numerous "buy-back" programs? (Sure, I'll hand over a $600 firearm in exchange for a $50 gift card - who even contrives this madness?)

The registration that ultimately leads to the collection/ confiscation of firearms will precede (even if only briefly) any such large, nationwide event. This collection/ confiscation will not likely be as much door-to-door checking, but will more likely be a combining of these two (2) programs that are already in place, the people have already been conditioned to, and the people (at least some) have already shown participation in.

At such point, your neighbor - or even a passer-by - simply places a call to their local authorities that they witnessed you placing a large case in your vehicle that resembled something in which a firearm would typically be stored and transported. Shortly thereafter, then you have a knock at your door looking for your firearms. All the while the neighbor/ passer-by believes they remain in the good graces of their providers, AND get their gift card/ food/ medication/ status/ etc.

So many people now look to the government as both their friend and provider with the belief that said government has their own best interests at heart, and as the ultimate "keepers" of not only society as a whole, but also their personal safety and well-being. With this set of beliefs and conditioning, not only will the government be at odds with a large portion of the people, but the people will also develop their own set of divisions within the societal structure that even merely functioning within such society will become threatening.

As this gains ground, it will not be limited to just the big cities. Every busy-body, every nosey neighbor, every questioning clerk at the check out, every "know-it-all" in your family - all will begin to be viewed in a different light, and relationships will cease to thrive.

Know your family. Know your "friends". Know your enemies. This is much larger than just the government, though they are pulling the strings; it is the very populous that have been conditioned to turn against one another with no regard that is the real work horse of the program. And this is no accident.
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.