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Message Subject How liberalism and left wingers destroyed the west
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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Environmentalism:

Look, we fought for the air standards we have and you can bug off. We don't want to become China. People Power. The water in Boston is excellent.

Actually, if you don't love the earth, trees and animals, if you don't respect Muir or Thoreau or Johnny Applesead, you should just go away from here. We don't need any non environmental attitudes and in this I am unanimous!

I just realized there must be another fiction going on here: the fiction of the Environmentalists! What's that one. OP?

My own father was a Republican Tea Party card carrier and he also belonged to the National Audobon society, the Wilderness Society, the Save Buzzards Bay committee, the Essex/Cape Ann Watershed society, the Consevators Of Reservations (NE) and about seven other Environmentalist groups I can't remember. Never voted for a Democrat or liberal of any kind In His Life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20442113


Ok, you have a point there, my statement was poorly worded.

I should have stated the following;

I have no time for environmental regulations that do not take into account economic principles, the right for people to make a living and the balanced approach to sustainable growth and prosperity. Knee jerk left wing reactions to proposals that could create jobs, save industry or otherwise enhance the quality of life for humans should be the paramount concern, not ideology.

People who value the earth over human life and their right to exist annoy me.

People who destroy entire communities based on animal protection also annoy me. Goes back to the theory that animals are equal to humans, or in some case, exceed humans.

People who put spikes in trees to injure lumberjacks because they do not agree with forestry industries are vile to me.Domestic terrorists to be exact. Forestry can be one of the most environmentally friendly and sustainable industries around.

Depopulation advocates, who rely on the environmentalism movement as justification for such outlandish ideas.

Carbon emissions alarmists who have successfully hijacked a significant amount of the food manufacturing base ( think ethanol production), to replace agriculture for people to eat with agriculture for fuel substitutes. Although there is proof that the climate is getting warmer, there is no conclusive evidence that this is caused by humans, yet we have to pay for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27627548


I'm sorry. but "depopulation advocates"? Who are they? Are they like the satanists who were supposed to be having mass ritual abuse of children as was discovered by suppressed memory theorists in the 80s? (and since debunked)

I've never seen a case where ideology disconnected from practical concerns decided an environmental issue. If your "job" is going to kill off species, why should it be kept? Everybody is effected when we loose species. Why is cancer growing? Don't we need a healthy earth to survive? That's a practical concern.

A scientist I respect, Dr. Lovelock in England said that in a couple hundred years humanity will be a billion people living around the arctic. He was correct, but his timing is off. This Fall's discoveries of massive methane release from the Russian arctic sea-floor have some scientists who are in the know saying the timetable for warming is MUCH faster than was realized. One of the tipping points has been reached, the arctic methane cycle reversal.

Really, this trumps all of our political arguments.
Even people like you who would not have admited anything a few years ago now know that the earth is heating up. Admitting that putting 10 trillion tons of carbon into the atmosphere since the industrial revolution has something to do with it is still beyond you, but give it a few years more.
 
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