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PHOENIX (AP) — Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne proposed a plan Wednesday to allow one educator in each school to carry a gun after receiving free firearms training from law enforcement.
The proposal comes less than two weeks after a gunman fatally shot 20 first-graders and six educators during a Dec. 14 rampage at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
Mr. Horne said the program, which would first need legislative action to amend state law, is aimed at reducing the risk of similar shootings in Arizona.
Under the plan, which Mr. Horne said is backed by sheriffs in Pinal, Mohave and Apache counties, each public school could designate a principal or educator to keep the gun in a secure, locked location at the facility. It would limit gun-carriers to one per school and would be a voluntary program.
However, Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu came out with his own, much broader plan on Wednesday aimed at training multiple educators per school to carry guns, noting his proposal and Mr. Horne’s were “the difference between putting your toe in a pool or jumping in.”
“And they should not be in a locked box these weapons,” Sheriff Babeu said. “Our schools are not as safe as we think they are, and we need to do something about it.”
Some schools around the state already have an armed law enforcement presence through the so-called school resource officer program, but budget constraints have cut it back.
“The ideal solution would be to have an armed police officer in each school,” Mr. Horne said, echoing calls from the National Rifle Association since the Connecticut shootings.
The next best thing, he said, is to arm an educator, comparing that proposal to allowing pilots to carry guns after the 9/11 terror attacks.


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It is a dumb idea, from a state full of absolutely stupid knee-jerk reactionist laws and a population too sackless to stop the idiot legislators in that state.
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It is a dumb idea, from a state full of absolutely stupid knee-jerk reactionist laws and a population too sackless to stop the idiot legislators in that state.
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Its a great idea, and I only wish it was more than 1 per school.
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It is a dumb idea, from a state full of absolutely stupid knee-jerk reactionist laws and a population too sackless to stop the idiot legislators in that state.
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Says the retard in a communist country
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It is a dumb idea, from a state full of absolutely stupid knee-jerk reactionist laws and a population too sackless to stop the idiot legislators in that state.
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Says the retard in a communist country
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^ this.
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bump for the zonies
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They should require 3, so in case one goes bad the other two can take her down.
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...and gun stores are clearly trying to be responsible on who they sell to....
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Placing three guns in secret locations locked up around the school premisis maybe the heads office for example as one and allowing teachers to volunteer for training would be better.

But this is a start in the right direction.
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I think they should have a school-based task force, say train some of the administrators, head custodian, etc. And I am a teacher. I'm for it. I am not for arming teachers, however.
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I looks like Eric Holder needs to give Jan Brewer another talking to !
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What people don't know,

Is that in AZ, they have an on-duty police officer at every middle and high school already. The cop car is always in the parking lot

The problem is, they don't have cops at the elementary schools

Why not? Because the cops are at the middle and high schools for the sole purpose of curbing drugs and teenage fighting!

Meanwhile, there have been multiple abduction attempts near(and at) the elementary schools.

Shows you how much they care for the kiddies.


It is a dumb idea, from a state full of absolutely stupid knee-jerk reactionist laws and a population too sackless to stop the idiot legislators in that state.
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Its a great idea, and I only wish it was more than 1 per school.
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Re: Arizona attorney general proposes arming 1 educator per school ----AZ UR SO BADASS!!! thumbs up!!!
You know what they should do is hire 1 ex military guy for each school as decently paid janitors/security guards. Give them enough weapons and ammo to protect the children.. I have a strong feeling these.shootings are inside jobs though.. And there.has to be lots of ex military coming home who want to be cops and troopers.. Make them school security guards for 18-20/hr... I bet they jump all over that..shit i would..
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You know what they should do is hire 1 ex military guy for each school as decently paid janitors/security guards. Give them enough weapons and ammo to protect the children.. I have a strong feeling these.shootings are inside jobs though.. And there.has to be lots of ex military coming home who want to be cops and troopers.. Make them school security guards for 18-20/hr... I bet they jump all over that..shit i would..
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That's actually a good idea. Shoot, they have no problem paying tsa goons and air officers.

But I think having a police officer makes sense. Since they do it already.

They are called SRO - school resource officers. They rotate every year or so - back out to patrol. So they don't get soft sitting in an office eating donuts, lol
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arizona is a conservative state who's had enough of the politically correct, asinine bullshit coming from the fed.

{where' that picture of jan brewer wagging her finger in obama's face!?}

we will be one of the first states to succeed from the union, if it comes to that.

and don't kid yourself. there are more than enough "patriotic" citizens here to secure our borders and maintain our sovereignty.

law enforcement. military. RETIRED military. christ! we've got vets coming out of our asses!

and people out here love our guns! even the hippies are packing heat! AND we have one of the largest groups of mothballed fighter planes in the U.S.

and with a nice little toll on I-10, of say $10 an axle... we'll do just fine without big daddy obie and his band of merry clowns.

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE US.
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Re: Arizona attorney general proposes arming 1 educator per school ----AZ UR SO BADASS!!! thumbs up!!!
arizona is a conservative state who's had enough of the politically correct, asinine bullshit coming from the fed.

{where' that picture of jan brewer wagging her finger in obama's face!?}

we will be one of the first states to succeed from the union, if it comes to that.

and don't kid yourself. there are more than enough "patriotic" citizens here to secure our borders and maintain our sovereignty.

law enforcement. military. RETIRED military. christ! we've got vets coming out of our asses!

and people out here love our guns! even the hippies are packing heat! AND we have one of the largest groups of mothballed fighter planes in the U.S.

and with a nice little toll on I-10, of say $10 an axle... we'll do just fine without big daddy obie and his band of merry clowns.

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE US.
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Agreed. Az has many grass roots groups that actually make a difference!

These grass roots people were able to get most of the red-light and speed cameras taken down.

Lots of Ron Paul supporters too!
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It is a dumb idea, from a state full of absolutely stupid knee-jerk reactionist laws and a population too sackless to stop the idiot legislators in that state.
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We have always allowed teachers in Texas to carry in schools.
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PLEASE UNDERSTAND! This is just as bad for our gun rights as diane feinstein's AWB. The proposed solution is more taxes, bigger government and an expansion of the governments monopoly on brute force. THIS IS PROPAGANDA and any true patriot and second amendment supporter should see it.

This is not the answer, this is a divisive tactic born from the same people who pretend to give a shit about your rights but only care about being re-elected. What would actually be helpful (once again not the complete answer) would be to REMOVE the laws prohibiting the concealed carry of firearms inside schools. Police do not stop violence or crime, they respond to it. It is the duty of every man and woman to protect the children of this nation.

I am all for allowing teachers and school staff to carry firearms but I am absolutely against paying more cops to sit on their ass while they wait for the .00001% possibility a mass shooting will occur at the school they are stationed at. Even if they were alert and ready, one cop armed with a sidearm vs. a whacko with a rifle is not even remotely likely to prevent another incident.

Wake up NRA cardholders. Realize you are blindly swallowing rhetoric just as badly as the anti-gun nuts.
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arizona is a conservative state who's had enough of the politically correct, asinine bullshit coming from the fed.

{where' that picture of jan brewer wagging her finger in obama's face!?}

we will be one of the first states to succeed from the union, if it comes to that.

and don't kid yourself. there are more than enough "patriotic" citizens here to secure our borders and maintain our sovereignty.

law enforcement. military. RETIRED military. christ! we've got vets coming out of our asses!

and people out here love our guns! even the hippies are packing heat! AND we have one of the largest groups of mothballed fighter planes in the U.S.

and with a nice little toll on I-10, of say $10 an axle... we'll do just fine without big daddy obie and his band of merry clowns.

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE US.
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Agreed. Az has many grass roots groups that actually make a difference!

These grass roots people were able to get most of the red-light and speed cameras taken down.

Lots of Ron Paul supporters too!
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funny you would say that.

i gave to two of his money bombs.
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Re: Arizona attorney general proposes arming 1 educator per school ----AZ UR SO BADASS!!! thumbs up!!!
Columbine High School HAD an armed OFFICER on it's grounds at the time of the shootings there ... not just an armed teacher but an actual ARMED POLICE OFFICER, and the shootings still happened, in fact continued for quite some time after they began.

As shown by Columbine just having an armed person in the school doesn't mean that no shootings will occure, or that they will be terminated quickly if one starts.

As a parent my concern is that kids would be taught, by the action of having armed people everywhere, that THE GOVERNMENT IS THEIR SAVIOR, that a "PAPERS PLEASE!"
demand by a Government Functionary is not only the NOMRAL WAY THE WORLD SHOULD WORK, but is WONDERFUL.

You think we have "Big Government" now ... just wait until a generation of kids grows up that have grown up in an atmosphere where Big Government WITH GUNS is EVERYWHERE, including at the entrances to their elementary school dining room.
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Teachers and Students should be able to volunteer for training in school defense. Children under the age 10 can learn to hunt and shoot. Even young humans can be responsible.
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arizona is a conservative state who's had enough of the politically correct, asinine bullshit coming from the fed.

{where' that picture of jan brewer wagging her finger in obama's face!?}

we will be one of the first states to succeed from the union, if it comes to that.

and don't kid yourself. there are more than enough "patriotic" citizens here to secure our borders and maintain our sovereignty.

law enforcement. military. RETIRED military. christ! we've got vets coming out of our asses!

and people out here love our guns! even the hippies are packing heat! AND we have one of the largest groups of mothballed fighter planes in the U.S.

and with a nice little toll on I-10, of say $10 an axle... we'll do just fine without big daddy obie and his band of merry clowns.

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE US.
 Quoting: Dr. Lecter


Agreed. Az has many grass roots groups that actually make a difference!

These grass roots people were able to get most of the red-light and speed cameras taken down.

Lots of Ron Paul supporters too!
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funny you would say that.

i gave to two of his money bombs.
 Quoting: Dr. Lecter


Right on!

I went to a couple of the Ron Paul group meets. Very awesome group of people. They are definitely more "awake" than anyone I know personally. They can discuss current events without screaming or blindly defending their beliefs. Huge respect for them since they actually tried to make a positive difference.
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It is a dumb idea, from a state full of absolutely stupid knee-jerk reactionist laws and a population too sackless to stop the idiot legislators in that state.
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Actually we love our legislators. They are doing exactly what they are paid to do.
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all male teachers should be armed in every school

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It is a dumb idea, from a state full of absolutely stupid knee-jerk reactionist laws and a population too sackless to stop the idiot legislators in that state.
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worry about Hong Kong andnot us ziperhead
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AZ WAY COOL!
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Re: Arizona attorney general proposes arming 1 educator per school ----AZ UR SO BADASS!!! thumbs up!!!
Funny thing is we've had armed police officers in schools for awhile now here in Az. Back when I was in school we had one officer at both my middle school and high school. They mostly just did the drug education presentations and "scared straight" stuff for kids who got in trouble a lot to keep busy, but they were there for security. Never been a shooting at either, crazy how that works huh?
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One? That will ensure it still happens, and prove to the sheeple it does not work.
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One? That will ensure it still happens, and prove to the sheeple it does not work.
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I smell a government set up here.
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Every teacher should be able to properly unleash hell on some psycho who is out for blood.

PS. AZ has some fine women, the state produces nothing but 10s
We must protect this asset at all cost
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Just like how the sports coaches have to be teachers.. Every school is gonna have that one bone head teacher that also doubles as a marksman.
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