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The Israelites aren't guided by God

 
Challenger
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The Israelites aren't guided by God
They are, or at least, were, guided by something supernatural, to be sure, but I don't think it's the true God.

It should become pretty obvious once you read through the Old Testament and see how 'God' commanded them to pour animal blood all over themselves and commit brutal sacrifices; rape infants and take sex slaves; and invade and pillage cities and tribes that weren't hostile to them.

And that's just the beginning of the list.
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
nor are most christians
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12/28/2012 01:02 PM
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
nor are most christians
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30760504


Didn't say they were.

Even the Bible tells us that lots of Christians will be rejected at the final judgment.

Of course, I have issues with trusting the Bible, so who knows, either way.
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
The Israelis, not Israelites.
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12/28/2012 01:04 PM
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
All Jews as Rabbi Finkelstein beleives are sons and daughters of Lucifer.
Challenger (OP)
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
All Jews as Rabbi Finkelstein beleives are sons and daughters of Lucifer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29128713


I'm thinking more of the ancient Israelites of the Bible and some of modern Israel's hardliners. I don't necessarily believe somebody is evil or corrupt just by reason of being Jewish.

Though I do think all of the Abrahamic religions have been taken over (or were created) by something very, very dark that we humans can't perceive.
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
JUDEO christianity - comes out of babylon, magic! spells! (influence really) a word after all IS a god damn SPELL - it is a set of sigils, arranged in a particular order and "Cast" (sent, spoken) away from you)

this is babylonian magic baby - aint it obvious yet?
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The Israelites are not your Israeli's in the state of Israel today. Furthermore, the only true and living Power NEVER commanded Israel to rape kids, that's straight from the Talmud (Niddah), which is a bunch of satanic rabbinical traditions put in a book.
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Exclusivity and intolerance is good for nothing. This applies to All.
There is nothing so powerful as truth, and often nothing so strange ~ Daniel Webster

Omnia Vincit Amor ~ Virgil

The more you learn, the less you know ~ Socrates

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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
The Israelis, not Israelites.
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And this^^^^^
There is nothing so powerful as truth, and often nothing so strange ~ Daniel Webster

Omnia Vincit Amor ~ Virgil

The more you learn, the less you know ~ Socrates

That writer does the most, who gives his reader the most knowledge, and takes from him the least time. ~ Charles Caleb Colton
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
Spiritual Israel is guided by God, however the descendants of physical Israel (12 tribes spread all over the earth. The Jews are only 1 tribe Judah) are mostly not. Most of "organized christianity" is not. Father God "chooses whom He will...". This is why the saints are far and few between.
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
They are, or at least, were, guided by something supernatural, to be sure, but I don't think it's the true God.

It should become pretty obvious once you read through the Old Testament and see how 'God' commanded them to pour animal blood all over themselves and commit brutal sacrifices; rape infants and take sex slaves; and invade and pillage cities and tribes that weren't hostile to them.

And that's just the beginning of the list.
 Quoting: Challenger 1277549


Ok lets check it

The countries who hate Israel:

Egypt : they have many problems since the last revolution and they have no time to attack Israel

Lybie : Civel war enough said

Irak : Since the American invasion this country is a mess

Palestine : Israel destroyed the hamas ans hezbollah nest last year with air strike

No Israel is not protected by God
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
The Bible is God and God is the Bible OR

The Word is God and God is the Word.

The Original King James version is safe.

The Bible is provided to drink from, It is the Living Waters so you can pass from spiritual death to spiritual Life.

It depends what your intentions are for reading the Bible.

For self glory.

For destruction purposes.

For edification of your soul.

The historical evidence cannot lie.

The world saw how God moved in the west and how God went back to Israel.

Jesus made Himself known to His people, those Jews who never defiled themselves with false religions and that is how they finally knew Who He is. "Where did you get those scars" "In the house of my friends". This part is obviously not world news it is private stuff and a God fearing Christian would automatically know this.

The only value left on earth are THE LIVING, not the living dead as they denied God.

The revelation is out now the Word is in The Chosen people while the rest of the world is still arguing about whether or not Noah's flood did indeed take place. Perfect Peace and Divine Love has come in the confusion.

After sin in the beginning God turned his back on the human race and laws had to be provided to start working towards saving a people for Himself, it took 6000 years.

Had Eve not allowed herself to be beguiled this world would have been a different place.

SIN = Unbelief

Eve did not listen and did touch the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

God Who created them said do not touch it and she did touch it.

Does that not ring a bell ?

Everyone is like this.

Jesus' disciples are a good example of believing and doubting and believing again after they made mistakes.

God does the choosing like a husband who chooses his wife.

The Perfect has come, Peace and Divine Love are with the believers world wide while the rest of the world is in chaos.
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
SIN = violating the Law of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins breaks God's law, because sin is the same as breaking God's law.
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
The Israelis, not Israelites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


yep.
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
rape infants and take sex slaves;
 Quoting: Challenger 1277549

You're pretty fucked up aren't you. The version you promote is more likely the way you would run a campaign. There was no rape and there were no slaves, the captured virgin girls were raised as normal children and then marriage took place before sex was an issue. Most of the time it would not be to the man they had taking care of them but to someone they fell in love with as they were growing up. If they were married to the one that took care of then they became assistants to the 1st wife.

I doubt you can read but just in case you can here are the relevant verses. (for a start)

De:21:11:
And seest among the captives a beautiful woman,
and hast a desire unto her,
that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
De:21:12:
Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house;
and she shall shave her head,
and pare her nails;
De:21:13:
And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her,
and shall remain in thine house,
and bewail her father and her mother a full month:
and after that thou shalt go in unto her,
and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
De:21:14:
And it shall be,
if thou have no delight in her,
then thou shalt let her go whither she will;
but thou shalt not sell her at all for money,
thou shalt not make merchandise of her,
because thou hast humbled her.

Married women were not captured as the first time the man had her in bed and he fell asleep that would be his last sleep, know what I mean?
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Re: The Israelites aren't guided by God
24Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were fixed on their fathers' idols.
25Therefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments by which they should not live; ... Ezekiel 20

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