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BURY YOUR GOLD AND GUNS? Dont bother. They can find them easy | |
| Barry Cash User ID: 1310640  United States12/28/2012 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30899241 United States12/28/2012 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1310640 United States12/28/2012 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1310640 United States12/28/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe so OP, but they won't detect that arrow from the crossbow flying out of nowhere nor that car battery hooked to the door knob. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30899241 What exactly do you think a 12 v car battery will do connected to a door handle? Do you think that only one person will show up to take your precious? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 United States12/28/2012 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 'bury your stash' fantasy is just that, a fantasy. Quoting: Barry Cash 1310640 The metal detection technology is so good, and Uncle can afford the best toys and people to search for your precious and other metal treasure. You may be unaware that they can with the right tools detect anything you bury that's metal and can selectively search and detect precious metal concentrations to depths deeper than you can dig. The 'bury now, come back later' fantasy wont work, they can scan your land in minutes for distrubed soil, and even survey your property from space. If they think you have something, they have the time, people and money to search every square inch for metals and voids in the ground to depths of dozens of feet Sorry to have to tell you this, but burying your stuff simply means youre wasting your time and wasting opportunities. I dont have any answers, and am unaware of any way of shielding metals and voids in the earth or water from detectors. Just so you dont get your hopes up about prevailing by passive resistance. Even if they dont know where to look, they know if they put you somewhere and control your movements by some means, whatever is cached will stay cached until found by someone else by accident. I agree, they already know who most of the gun owners are. Even if you turn everything in, you'll still be considered a threat and treated accordingly. On that terrible day of confiscation, should it arrive, anyone on their 'list' will be in a world of shit. Even if you've followed all the laws enacted. Time to wise up, put on our big boy boxers, and realize that we cannot weasel out. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30972713 United States12/28/2012 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1310640 United States12/28/2012 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29307060 United States12/28/2012 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 'bury your stash' fantasy is just that, a fantasy. Quoting: Barry Cash 1310640 The metal detection technology is so good, and Uncle can afford the best toys and people to search for your precious and other metal treasure. You may be unaware that they can with the right tools detect anything you bury that's metal and can selectively search and detect precious metal concentrations to depths deeper than you can dig. The 'bury now, come back later' fantasy wont work, they can scan your land in minutes for distrubed soil, and even survey your property from space. If they think you have something, they have the time, people and money to search every square inch for metals and voids in the ground to depths of dozens of feet Sorry to have to tell you this, but burying your stuff simply means youre wasting your time and wasting opportunities. I dont have any answers, and am unaware of any way of shielding metals and voids in the earth or water from detectors. Just so you dont get your hopes up about prevailing by passive resistance. Even if they dont know where to look, they know if they put you somewhere and control your movements by some means, whatever is cached will stay cached until found by someone else by accident.  The fantasy is that the Gov't knows all and sees all. The Gov't can't watch 320 million people all at once, nor does it have the resources to scan every inch of the US. You watch to much propaganda on TV. There are many "treasures"(lost safes, buried loot from stage robberies, etc) lost in the old West that are still not discovered. Even most drug farms, are accidentally stumbled upon, not located by superior Government Technology. |
| Dapurps hakuna matata  User ID: 30803443  Canada12/28/2012 02:56 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Chip Forum Moderator User ID: 22480895 United States12/28/2012 02:56 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1310640 United States12/28/2012 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Chip Forum Moderator User ID: 22480895 United States12/28/2012 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In your world is the earth like 5 miles around? No tree or canopy cover? You're a fool if you think people don't bury important items that are never found. Too much land to cover. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1310640 United States12/28/2012 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In your world is the earth like 5 miles around? No tree or canopy cover? You're a fool if you think people don't bury important items that are never found. Too much land to cover. I'm a fool for thinking that the vast majority dont have five miles of property to dig up in secret, or that ground penetrating radar or soil disturbance detection satellites to bedrock dont exist. I'm a fool for imagining that Uncle doesnt have assets to search in the obvious places. I'm also a fool to think that I can bring my cache with me on the fema bus. Thanks for the update |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1310640 United States12/28/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Sunyata This is it User ID: 14343956 United States12/28/2012 03:12 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Chip Forum Moderator User ID: 22480895 United States12/28/2012 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In your world is the earth like 5 miles around? No tree or canopy cover? You're a fool if you think people don't bury important items that are never found. Too much land to cover. I'm a fool for thinking that the vast majority dont have five miles of property to dig up in secret, or that ground penetrating radar or soil disturbance detection satellites to bedrock dont exist. I'm a fool for imagining that Uncle doesnt have assets to search in the obvious places. I'm also a fool to think that I can bring my cache with me on the fema bus. Thanks for the update If you live in America...there's a forest within 50 miles of you. "Ground penetrating radar" is used quite infrequently for objects the size of a hand gun or rifle. Soil disturbance detection? Really? Haha...I won't even grant that a response. Lastly if you're on a FEMA bus...it's too late...you lose. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| joe mamma User ID: 8383650 United States12/28/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1310640 United States12/28/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wishing and hoping and ignoring the obvious is still popular I see Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640 You're giving them too much credit. Taliban fares just fine on walkie talkies and xbox controllers. While uncle has space and air support. They arent concerned about finding the Taliban, the Taliban sends Ramadan cards to Dear Leader, who ships them weapons on the down low. |
| Sunyata This is it User ID: 14343956 United States12/28/2012 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wishing and hoping and ignoring the obvious is still popular I see Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640 You're giving them too much credit. Taliban fares just fine on walkie talkies and xbox controllers. While uncle has space and air support. They arent concerned about finding the Taliban, the Taliban sends Ramadan cards to Dear Leader, who ships them weapons on the down low. Why would they be concerned about guns here at home, when a virus could do all the work for them if needed? Empty and marvellous |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31031013  Germany12/28/2012 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1310640 United States12/28/2012 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640 Apparently youre unconvinced. Ever watch the show "Meteorite Men"? In your world is the earth like 5 miles around? No tree or canopy cover? You're a fool if you think people don't bury important items that are never found. Too much land to cover. I'm a fool for thinking that the vast majority dont have five miles of property to dig up in secret, or that ground penetrating radar or soil disturbance detection satellites to bedrock dont exist. I'm a fool for imagining that Uncle doesnt have assets to search in the obvious places. I'm also a fool to think that I can bring my cache with me on the fema bus. Thanks for the update If you live in America...there's a forest within 50 miles of you. "Ground penetrating radar" is used quite infrequently for objects the size of a hand gun or rifle. Soil disturbance detection? Really? Haha...I won't even grant that a response. Lastly if you're on a FEMA bus...it's too late...you lose. 99% of people bury their precious where they can see if it's being disturbed, or where they can count on their friends and family noticing if someones snooping around. Pretty much nobody buries anything of value where others can stumble across it. The meteorite men search for metal by pulling their detector array with an ATV, and they find things pretty deep and it's just the two of them. Most of you already list your friends and family on tattlebook or similar. How you can tell that nobody was watching while you buriesd your precious is a leap of faith, I can tell if someone moved by boat by using google maps. |
| Chip Forum Moderator User ID: 22480895 United States12/28/2012 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Chip In your world is the earth like 5 miles around? No tree or canopy cover? You're a fool if you think people don't bury important items that are never found. Too much land to cover. I'm a fool for thinking that the vast majority dont have five miles of property to dig up in secret, or that ground penetrating radar or soil disturbance detection satellites to bedrock dont exist. I'm a fool for imagining that Uncle doesnt have assets to search in the obvious places. I'm also a fool to think that I can bring my cache with me on the fema bus. Thanks for the update If you live in America...there's a forest within 50 miles of you. "Ground penetrating radar" is used quite infrequently for objects the size of a hand gun or rifle. Soil disturbance detection? Really? Haha...I won't even grant that a response. Lastly if you're on a FEMA bus...it's too late...you lose. 99% of people bury their precious where they can see if it's being disturbed, or where they can count on their friends and family noticing if someones snooping around. Pretty much nobody buries anything of value where others can stumble across it. The meteorite men search for metal by pulling their detector array with an ATV, and they find things pretty deep and it's just the two of them. Most of you already list your friends and family on tattlebook or similar. How you can tell that nobody was watching while you buriesd your precious is a leap of faith, I can tell if someone moved by boat by using google maps. Sorry. I just think you are being unrealistic. But...you go girl! Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| scimitar User ID: 28310193 United States12/28/2012 03:23 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's easy...... just be ready to meet your maker on that day and refuse, then when they enter your house take a couple with you. Not sure what I'll do. However I prefer to grow old and die in my sleep so I'll probably give them what they want. On a different note...... why bury them? Put them high in a tree and don't look up. I mean really now if this actually happens the majority of us will have great deal of warning. It helps if you live in the country, where no one can see what your're doing. Last Edited by scimitar on 12/28/2012 03:26 PM One Truth.... many realities |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1310640 United States12/28/2012 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wishing and hoping and ignoring the obvious is still popular I see Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640 You're giving them too much credit. Taliban fares just fine on walkie talkies and xbox controllers. While uncle has space and air support. They arent concerned about finding the Taliban, the Taliban sends Ramadan cards to Dear Leader, who ships them weapons on the down low. Why would they be concerned about guns here at home, when a virus could do all the work for them if needed? Viruses and biologicals get out of hand, they mutate, are effected by climate and vaccines are unreliable for a defense and can affect unintended targets. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2629719 United States12/28/2012 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is a quivering pussy. So frightened all the time. I won't be hiding anything. And nobody will be taking anything from me. I am justified and sanctified beyond any silly laws they pass. Unlike the fag Op, I am not afraid to stand and fight like a real man. I stand for principles. The Op is a frightened bitch. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9222520 United States12/28/2012 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In your world is the earth like 5 miles around? No tree or canopy cover? You're a fool if you think people don't bury important items that are never found. Too much land to cover. This ^ Especially in towns that are surrounded by 100's of square miles of nothingness. Hell, maybe Ill disturb the land in many places. Go ahead, look, waste of resources. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1310640 United States12/28/2012 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's easy...... just be ready to meet your maker on that day and refuse, then when they enter your house take a couple with you. Not sure what I'll do. However I prefer to grow old and die in my sleep so I'll probably give them what they want. Quoting: scimitar On a different note...... why bury them? Put them high in a tree and don't look up. I mean really now if this actually happens the majority of us will have great deal of warning. It helps if you live in the country, where no one can see what your're doing. You must have Dr Seuess trees, and a wind and rain free environment. You've already noticed that Uncles minions never look up. |
| scimitar User ID: 28310193 United States12/28/2012 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is a quivering pussy. So frightened all the time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2629719 I won't be hiding anything. And nobody will be taking anything from me. I am justified and sanctified beyond any silly laws they pass. Unlike the fag Op, I am not afraid to stand and fight like a real man. I stand for principles. The Op is a frightened bitch. Like I said...... if you are ready to die, then NO PROBLEM. One Truth.... many realities |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1310640 United States12/28/2012 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is a quivering pussy. So frightened all the time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2629719 I won't be hiding anything. And nobody will be taking anything from me. I am justified and sanctified beyond any silly laws they pass. Unlike the fag Op, I am not afraid to stand and fight like a real man. I stand for principles. The Op is a frightened bitch. Hmmmm, it's as if youre attempting to elicit a specific response, I cant imagine what it could be? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30760504 United States12/28/2012 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 11546402  United Kingdom12/28/2012 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640 Apparently youre unconvinced. Ever watch the show "Meteorite Men"? In your world is the earth like 5 miles around? No tree or canopy cover? You're a fool if you think people don't bury important items that are never found. Too much land to cover. I'm a fool for thinking that the vast majority dont have five miles of property to dig up in secret, or that ground penetrating radar or soil disturbance detection satellites to bedrock dont exist. I'm a fool for imagining that Uncle doesnt have assets to search in the obvious places. I'm also a fool to think that I can bring my cache with me on the fema bus. Thanks for the update If you live in America...there's a forest within 50 miles of you. "Ground penetrating radar" is used quite infrequently for objects the size of a hand gun or rifle. Soil disturbance detection? Really? Haha...I won't even grant that a response. Lastly if you're on a FEMA bus...it's too late...you lose. Even if they can detect "soil disturbance", what's to stop someone digging a tunnel from somewhere else so the disturbed soil isn't on there land? You could even make it look like a drain. |
