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BURY YOUR GOLD AND GUNS? Dont bother. They can find them easy

 
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yah like they are going to use medal detectors to scan the 4 trillion acres that are the USA....
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Like you have the option of 4 trillion acres.
Most of you will bury your precious in the garden within sight of your home or other outbuildings belonging to someone you know.

How about some of you with a good metal detector chiming in on this increasingly disinfo thread and reminding people what the tech is capable of?
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Bury your stuff way the fuck away from your house in the woods or mountains
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Maybe so OP, but they won't detect that arrow from the crossbow flying out of nowhere nor that car battery hooked to the door knob.
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this
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yah like they are going to use medal detectors to scan the 4 trillion acres that are the USA....
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Like you have the option of 4 trillion acres.
Most of you will bury your precious in the garden within sight of your home or other outbuildings belonging to someone you know.

How about some of you with a good metal detector chiming in on this increasingly disinfo thread and reminding people what the tech is capable of?
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Finding metal within a few feet of the surface, but if you encase it in concrete (with some way of getting to it, obviously, although not necessarily if it was for long term storage I guess) then they might have trouble. Ground penetrating radar is maybe an issue, but you make it look like a drain, as I said.

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147 acres, 3 different properties, two states, one province, two countries.

I don't think so.
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yah like they are going to use medal detectors to scan the 4 trillion acres that are the USA....
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Like you have the option of 4 trillion acres.
Most of you will bury your precious in the garden within sight of your home or other outbuildings belonging to someone you know.

How about some of you with a good metal detector chiming in on this increasingly disinfo thread and reminding people what the tech is capable of?
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Finding metal within a few feet of the surface, but if you encase it in concrete (with some way of getting to it, obviously, although not necessarily if it was for long term storage I guess) then they might have trouble. Ground penetrating radar is maybe an issue, but you make it look like a drain, as I said.
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So, you recommend the secret Concrete delivery?
Dont you think that someone may notice?


Are there any adults that understand the problem start to finish reading this thread that understand the available technology that I can talk to?
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yah like they are going to use medal detectors to scan the 4 trillion acres that are the USA....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30760504


Like you have the option of 4 trillion acres.
Most of you will bury your precious in the garden within sight of your home or other outbuildings belonging to someone you know.

How about some of you with a good metal detector chiming in on this increasingly disinfo thread and reminding people what the tech is capable of?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


Finding metal within a few feet of the surface, but if you encase it in concrete (with some way of getting to it, obviously, although not necessarily if it was for long term storage I guess) then they might have trouble. Ground penetrating radar is maybe an issue, but you make it look like a drain, as I said.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


So, you recommend the secret Concrete delivery?
Dont you think that someone may notice?


Are there any adults that understand the problem start to finish reading this thread that understand the available technology that I can talk to?
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Last I checked it's not illegal to buy concrete. If you think that they are monitoring every purchase, and every time someone digs a hole then there's not much hope frankly.
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My grandfather lost a few gold bars once. NOT as easy to find as you think and we had a very good idea where they were and it still took two weeks to find.


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The 'bury your stash' fantasy is just that, a fantasy.
The metal detection technology is so good, and Uncle can afford the best toys and people to search for your precious and other metal treasure.
You may be unaware that they can with the right tools detect anything you bury that's metal and can selectively search and detect precious metal concentrations to depths deeper than you can dig.

The 'bury now, come back later' fantasy wont work, they can scan your land in minutes for distrubed soil, and even survey your property from space. If they think you have something, they have the time, people and money to search every square inch for metals and voids in the ground to depths of dozens of feet

Sorry to have to tell you this, but burying your stuff simply means youre wasting your time and wasting opportunities.

I dont have any answers, and am unaware of any way of shielding metals and voids in the earth or water from detectors. Just so you dont get your hopes up about prevailing by passive resistance.

Even if they dont know where to look, they know if they put you somewhere and control your movements by some means, whatever is cached will stay cached until found by someone else by accident.
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bsflag

The fantasy is that the Gov't knows all and sees all.
The Gov't can't watch 320 million people all at once, nor does it have the resources to scan every inch of the US.
You watch to much propaganda on TV.

There are many "treasures"(lost safes, buried loot from stage robberies, etc) lost in the old West that are still not discovered. Even most drug farms, are accidentally stumbled upon, not located by superior Government Technology.
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you need to raise that bs flag on yourself.

looky here dip, [link to www.popsci.com]
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12/28/2012 03:48 PM
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Sounds like OP has allready buried his brain and will dig it up later and begin using it again.......
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yah like they are going to use medal detectors to scan the 4 trillion acres that are the USA....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30760504


Like you have the option of 4 trillion acres.
Most of you will bury your precious in the garden within sight of your home or other outbuildings belonging to someone you know.

How about some of you with a good metal detector chiming in on this increasingly disinfo thread and reminding people what the tech is capable of?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


i've been prospecting since i was a kid.i have a 5k$ minelab...but here is alil taste of what they can do.remember this is what is out there for civvy's to buy.just think what they have.

[link to www.kellycodetectors.com]
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yah like they are going to use medal detectors to scan the 4 trillion acres that are the USA....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30760504


Like you have the option of 4 trillion acres.
Most of you will bury your precious in the garden within sight of your home or other outbuildings belonging to someone you know.

How about some of you with a good metal detector chiming in on this increasingly disinfo thread and reminding people what the tech is capable of?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


i've been prospecting since i was a kid.i have a 5k$ minelab...but here is alil taste of what they can do.remember this is what is out there for civvy's to buy.just think what they have.

[link to www.kellycodetectors.com]
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Almost like "Seeing" deep in the ground. . .
Scans 24,000 Sq. Ft.
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They can detect guns from the sky in their helicopters.
They can detect heat (body) the same way.

yes they have lots of spying tools.
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My grandfather lost a few gold bars once. NOT as easy to find as you think and we had a very good idea where they were and it still took two weeks to find.


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How many alphabet agencies wanted a piece of them?

The majority of the respondents to the thread pretend an elephant is only the part of it they are touching at the moment and not aware that any other parts are connected.
In plain fact not one in a thousand intending to hide their precious will do so off their own property or beyond their vision from their property.
Continue to imagine that there are no available techs that can easily search for metals within 40 feet of the surface, if that makes you feel all better. You can imagine that someone watching from a distance unobserved or walking by freshly disturbed earth wont notice or be curious enough to see what's down there.
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yah like they are going to use medal detectors to scan the 4 trillion acres that are the USA....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30760504


Like you have the option of 4 trillion acres.
Most of you will bury your precious in the garden within sight of your home or other outbuildings belonging to someone you know.

How about some of you with a good metal detector chiming in on this increasingly disinfo thread and reminding people what the tech is capable of?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


i've been prospecting since i was a kid.i have a 5k$ minelab...but here is alil taste of what they can do.remember this is what is out there for civvy's to buy.just think what they have.

[link to www.kellycodetectors.com]
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Almost like "Seeing" deep in the ground. . .
Scans 24,000 Sq. Ft.
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1 thing to note.anytime a high volume of metal is stashed in 1 place,you can use a simple ir device.not even a metal detector.anywhere the gorund looks hotter on the ir is where metal will be.because as the day goes on the ground heats up from the sun.metals retain heat alot longer than the ground.metals also reflect the heat...
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op do you honestly believe burying metals in the ground is the only hiding place ppl can come up with? 3 quick examples, 1.a hollowed out tree, 2. a fake kitchen drainage pipe( under the sink) ,3. you can shove it up your ass, im sure they wont think of looking there unless youve already been financially fucked before
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I'm not going to bury my guns. Probably ever. I'm not that paranoid yet... People here make up endless scenarios in their heads that will most likely never happen. If I did that i'd probably be paranoid too. I try to be positive, live and enjoy life. I'm not super concerned over a gun ban.
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Ignore the Op he is an obvious government shill
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yah like they are going to use medal detectors to scan the 4 trillion acres that are the USA....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30760504


Like you have the option of 4 trillion acres.
Most of you will bury your precious in the garden within sight of your home or other outbuildings belonging to someone you know.

How about some of you with a good metal detector chiming in on this increasingly disinfo thread and reminding people what the tech is capable of?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


i've been prospecting since i was a kid.i have a 5k$ minelab...but here is alil taste of what they can do.remember this is what is out there for civvy's to buy.just think what they have.

[link to www.kellycodetectors.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30966780


Almost like "Seeing" deep in the ground. . .
Scans 24,000 Sq. Ft.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30966780


Thanks bro, I couldnt recall what it was called, and, in truth it doesnt matter.
The whole "bury it and come back later" fantasy requires that nobody else find it after you leave, or that you are allowed to return without being followed by some method, like a chip or other tracking technology.
The whole point is that the hide and do nothing tactic isnt very successful when history's reviewed
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Ignore the Op he is an obvious government shill
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Riiiigght, I want all you soon to be victims to believe yourself a whole mess of comfortable fantasies.
You know that all us Mr gummit shills always tell it straight so you do the wrong thing, or is it the wrong thing so you do the right thing, oh shit I have to check the manual again...
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rednecks with 10-20 acres have plenty of places to stash and the gubment would never know.
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The 'bury your stash' fantasy is just that, a fantasy.
The metal detection technology is so good, and Uncle can afford the best toys and people to search for your precious and other metal treasure.
You may be unaware that they can with the right tools detect anything you bury that's metal and can selectively search and detect precious metal concentrations to depths deeper than you can dig.

The 'bury now, come back later' fantasy wont work, they can scan your land in minutes for distrubed soil, and even survey your property from space. If they think you have something, they have the time, people and money to search every square inch for metals and voids in the ground to depths of dozens of feet

Sorry to have to tell you this, but burying your stuff simply means youre wasting your time and wasting opportunities.

I dont have any answers, and am unaware of any way of shielding metals and voids in the earth or water from detectors. Just so you dont get your hopes up about prevailing by passive resistance.

Even if they dont know where to look, they know if they put you somewhere and control your movements by some means, whatever is cached will stay cached until found by someone else by accident.
 Quoting: Barry Cash 1310640


bsflag

The fantasy is that the Gov't knows all and sees all.
The Gov't can't watch 320 million people all at once, nor does it have the resources to scan every inch of the US.
You watch to much propaganda on TV.

There are many "treasures"(lost safes, buried loot from stage robberies, etc) lost in the old West that are still not discovered. Even most drug farms, are accidentally stumbled upon, not located by superior Government Technology.
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ohyeah
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op do you honestly believe burying metals in the ground is the only hiding place ppl can come up with? 3 quick examples, 1.a hollowed out tree, 2. a fake kitchen drainage pipe( under the sink) ,3. you can shove it up your ass, im sure they wont think of looking there unless youve already been financially fucked before
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A guy near here was arrested for suspicion of illegal possession of some illegal machined metal objects, they stripped his home to the studs, and sold it like that after they found what they suspected he hid there.

I find it curious the near frantic efforts to ignore the obvious, that when uncle wants, uncle does whatever he wants with whatever toys and toadies he bought with your money
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There are very expensive field apparatus that can create very detailed 3D density maps, although I do not think it is metal detection but rather shape detection. My father rented this equipment once in regards to the question of the extent of silver deposits under a piece of land.

There are space based systems. Supposedly the newly discovered tunnel under the great pyramids of Teotihuacan last year were discovered by satellite.

How much this technology would be employed by a supposed hostile government, or how much more the technology becomes available is an open ended question.

Maybe the best rule is still "don't put all your eggs in one basket".
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There are very expensive field apparatus that can create very detailed 3D density maps, although I do not think it is metal detection but rather shape detection. My father rented this equipment once in regards to the question of the extent of silver deposits under a piece of land.

There are space based systems. Supposedly the newly discovered tunnel under the great pyramids of Teotihuacan last year were discovered by satellite.

How much this technology would be employed by a supposed hostile government, or how much more the technology becomes available is an open ended question.

Maybe the best rule is still "don't put all your eggs in one basket".
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Some would suggest that surrendering is simply giving up and playing bitch.
The fantasy of surrendering today for return another day presupposes that those you surrender to are willing to let you go about your business later and not simply exterminating the lot of you.
Sometimes you only get one chance, but the el Norte gringos assume you get unlimited do-overs.
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Couple things to remember there Sport;
1: who says we're burying the guns on our property?
B: burying junk rebar all over the place slows down they detection efforts considerably- heh you don't even have to dig, just hammer them in at various angles!

Remember peeps, if this gets ugly, we're not waiting till they come to our house, WE'LL pick the time and place when this goes asymmetrical....
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There are very expensive field apparatus that can create very detailed 3D density maps, although I do not think it is metal detection but rather shape detection. My father rented this equipment once in regards to the question of the extent of silver deposits under a piece of land.

There are space based systems. Supposedly the newly discovered tunnel under the great pyramids of Teotihuacan last year were discovered by satellite.

How much this technology would be employed by a supposed hostile government, or how much more the technology becomes available is an open ended question.

Maybe the best rule is still "don't put all your eggs in one basket".
 Quoting: ehecatl


Some would suggest that surrendering is simply giving up and playing bitch.
The fantasy of surrendering today for return another day presupposes that those you surrender to are willing to let you go about your business later and not simply exterminating the lot of you.
Sometimes you only get one chance, but the el Norte gringos assume you get unlimited do-overs.
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The pueblo I live near is said to have been burned to the ground with every major passing revolution and conflict in Mexico. Furthermore there are restricted underground tunnels over a hundred years old connecting the major churches in town.

Furthermore there is a 7km long natural limestone cave connecting one major church up on a mountain to a church down in the middle of the valley below. Both passages are just behind the main alters and the tunnel connecting to the natural cave was prehispanic and the churches purposely built on the native locations.

Here is a video about my pueblo and most of it is about the secret underground bunkers that the people used to hide the women and children. These ancient bunkers still exist under many properties. (jump to minute 3)



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I've studied these scenerios for years and everyone says "THEY" will come for you or "THEY will find your buried stuff. WHO is THEY? The military? Government police? BS. If it comes to that there will be such civil unrest etc. and chaos and virtually every one of them will be more interested in saving their own asses.
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they had a rough time getting a handle on Katrina and that's just one city. And more and more military and law enforcement are waking up. They'll have to bring in foreign troops
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Op you're an idiot