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Feinstein's Gun Control Bill Will Trigger The Next American Revolution

 
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[link to www.zerohedge.com]

Revolution? Yes, it all sounds rather “extreme”, but the cold hard reality of our era is not going to comfort us with diplomacies and niceties, so honestly, why should I have to sugar coat anything? We live in extreme times and there is no longer room for prancing around the ultimate consequences of that which is taking place in America today. This country is increasingly sliding towards the edge of internal conflict. The Liberty Movement and true Constitutionalists see it, subsections of Republicans and Democrats see it, and most of all, the federal government sees it. In fact, they may even be counting on it.

Over the past two years alone, multiple draconian policies have been enacted through executive order by the Obama Administration which build upon the civil liberty crushing actions of George W. Bush and press far beyond. The Patriot Acts, the FISA domestic spy bill, the bailouts of corrupt international banks, attempts at CISPA and SOPA, actions like the NDAA authorizing the treatment of U.S. citizens as “enemy combatants” without rights to due process; all paint a picture so clear only a one-celled amoeba (or your average suburban yuppie) would not see it. You and I, and everyone else for that matter, have been designated potential targets of the state. Our rights have been made forfeit.

There is no ambiguous or muddled separation between the citizenry and the government anymore. The separation is absolute. It is undeniable. It is vast. It is only a matter of time and momentum, and eventually there will be unbridled oppression, dissent, and conflict. All that is required is a trigger, and I believe that trigger has arrived…

Though made to appear “complex”, the gun control debate is actually an incredibly simple issue. It all boils down to a couple of questions which gun grabbers rarely ask: How does the 2nd Amendment affect the future? That is to say, what was the original intent, and should we still value that intent as it applies to tomorrow? And, what will really happen if it is forcibly removed? Gun opponents act as though they are unaware of these questions, or maybe they don’t care. However, it is vital to their safety and the safety of our culture in general that they do finally consider the bigger picture.

Common Anti-Gun Arguments:
1) The 2nd Amendment is “outdated” and no longer relevant in today’s modern society.

2) We do not want to stop you from “defending yourself”, or interfere with the American tradition of hunting, but people do not need “military assault weapons” for either.

3) Your claimed freedom to own guns should not supersede my freedom to live without fear of guns. We exist in a society, and our society requires us to give up certain freedoms so that it can function.


Again, in response to these arguments, I have to ask, what does the 2nd Amendment mean for the future? What was its original intent? Gun control advocates would like to ignore the fact that the Constitution specifically protects a broad application of gun ownership, but when they cannot deny the legality of it, they instead turn to more abstract and existential methods of attack. They try to twist the original intent of the 2nd Amendment to further their goals. To respond briefly to each of the above fallacies:

1) The right to self defense from ANY threat, whether it be an individual, or a criminal government, does not “outdate”. It is a universal and eternal freedom. It is a foundational pillar of natural law. Even if the 2nd Amendment did not exist, I would still have the inborn right to arm and protect myself and those I love, and the best way to do that is to own firearms. The men who drafted the Constitution were far more intelligent than any pithy gun grabber today, yet, these socialist errand boys seem to believe that they have “surpassed” the wisdom of the Founders. The amount of ego required to fuel such an attitude boggles the mind…

Gun violence and violence in general will not end simply by banning firearms. The very idea that any society can remove all weapons from their sight is naïve to begin with. Criminals always find a way. Murder, rape, and mayhem will continue until you confront the root problem, which is the human mind, and the human heart. Only when these two things are balanced in all people will violence end. Disarming good men and women has never made a society “safer”. When the power of defense is removed from the people, someone, somewhere, will seek to abuse their weakness. The most armed entity of the time invariably becomes the subjugator, and usually this is the government. Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Mao’s China, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, etc, all contained disarmed populations. The guns were gone, and still millions upon millions died. Modern day Mexico is a perfect example of a disarmed population that is now living in terror because of criminal organizations (which, of course, still have guns). Disarmament does NOT end gun violence, it only changes the dynamic of who uses that violence, and it makes innocent victims easier to attack.

2)... <snip>



Do They Know What They Are In For...?


Feinstein’s campaign for gun control is not hers alone; it has been the overall establishment’s work in progress for decades. I covered the broad based arguments of gun control advocates above because I wanted to illustrate the tangibility of gun ownership. I want to show you where we stand as constitutionalists, and I can say confidently that our moral and intellectual footing is strong. To be clear, when defenders of a particular idea are right in their position, they are much more likely to fight and die for that position, and they are much more likely to win.

In the beginning I asked what the 2nd Amendment means for the future of this country. Not only if it continues, but if it disappears. If I was a gun control proponent, I would weigh the aftereffects of my actions carefully, because the penalties will likely be dire…

I have heard it argued that Americans are passive. We didn’t rise up against the last Assault Weapons Ban. We didn’t rise up against the Patriot Act. We didn’t rise up against TSA molestation. We didn’t rise up against warrantless wiretapping, the assassination of U.S. citizens, or even the NDAA. The people who make this point, though, are not looking at the larger issue. It is one thing for our government to pass legislation; the wider application of that legislation on our streets and at our doorsteps is another matter.

Feinstein’s bill is unprecedented in the history of this country, and requires widespread enforcement in every town and hamlet in order to be effective. The way in which it is designed makes a violent response from the public inevitable. It reaches far beyond the Assault Weapons Ban of the 1990’s, calling for the creation of a massive database of almost all gun owners in the United States. This database will require citizens to submit their EXISTING firearms to cataloging, and the owners to be filed and fingerprinted like criminals.

The bill will ban the outright the sale, manufacture, and transfer of at least 120 models of firearms (which have not yet been named). It will ban the manufacture and sale of most if not all semi-automatic rifles and the bill specifically targets handguns as well. Large capacity mags and mag fed weapons will essentially disappear from gun stores. Though, those guns designated as “hunting rifles” will be exempt (for now).

Feinstein has also openly agreed with NY Governor Andrew Cuomo that government buy back programs (forced selling of firearms at a reduced price) and even physical confiscations are on the table:

[link to www.opposingviews.com]

[link to washingtonexaminer.com]

To put this bluntly, there are approximately 50 million gun owners (according to official estimates) in the United States. If only 2% of those gun owners refuse to submit to the Feinstein Database, and the feds attempt confiscation, they will have a massive revolution on their hands.
 Quoting: [link to www.zerohedge.com]


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no it won't

congress men and women propose legislation all the time. most of it doesn't pass.

this one won't either.
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If it does happen, I'd be surprised if it was only 2% of the people fighting back.

If foreign troops (blue helmets) are deployed in America to confiscate guns I'd expect the military to really step up and give them the boot.

Do I expect it to really get this bad? Not really. Or at least I sincerely hope it doesn't.

Last Edited by Cybermerc on 12/28/2012 04:33 PM
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
- James Madison

“The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.”
- Marine Gen. James Mattis
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If it does happen, I'd be surprised if it was only 2$ of the people fighting back.

If foreign troops (blue helmets) are deployed in America to confiscate guns I'd expect the military to really step up and give them the boot.

Do I expect it to really get this bad? Not really. Or at least I sincerely hope it doesn't.
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I guess none of you read the bible... it happens
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no it won't

congress men and women propose legislation all the time. most of it doesn't pass.

this one won't either.
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I expect you are right. I read a news story about a bill on a ban on magazines larger than 10 rounds that is being introduced the first part of January that probably won't even be brought up to the floor to be voted on.
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- Marine Gen. James Mattis
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If it does happen, I'd be surprised if it was only 2$ of the people fighting back.

If foreign troops (blue helmets) are deployed in America to confiscate guns I'd expect the military to really step up and give them the boot.

Do I expect it to really get this bad? Not really. Or at least I sincerely hope it doesn't.
 Quoting: Cybermerc


I guess none of you read the bible... it happens
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History books are full of the same stories. So yes, it does happen. Doesn't necessarily mean it will happen this time.
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no it won't

congress men and women propose legislation all the time. most of it doesn't pass.

this one won't either.
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God i hope not. but if it does they will have blood on their hands.
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The Mexican drug cartels armed by Fast & Furious will move north and joined by many new recruits already within against a now disarmed citizenry. Washington has already shown what side they would take.
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We're not in the wrong if we choose to defend our rights. The Government is in the wrong, we should have a clear conscience about this
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We're not in the wrong if we choose to defend our rights. The Government is in the wrong, we should have a clear conscience about this
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Agreed. We are not required to obey laws that are unconstitutional.
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"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
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- Marine Gen. James Mattis
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We're not in the wrong if we choose to defend our rights. The Government is in the wrong, we should have a clear conscience about this
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Agreed. We are not required to obey laws that are unconstitutional.
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Agreed -

That they would even possess the audacity to propose such should, in and of itself, create such overwhelming outrage that every single other issue on your news (soap opera) channels would be deafened by it.

Apparently more important news revolves around the after-Christmas-deals to be found.
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8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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We're not in the wrong if we choose to defend our rights. The Government is in the wrong, we should have a clear conscience about this
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Agreed. We are not required to obey laws that are unconstitutional.
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Agreed -

That they would even possess the audacity to propose such should, in and of itself, create such overwhelming outrage that every single other issue on your news (soap opera) channels would be deafened by it.

Apparently more important news revolves around the after-Christmas-deals to be found.
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MSM are about ratings only, not reporting the truth. Most of what is called news is nothing more than a editorial piece. Some jackass giving their opinion on something, not reporting the facts.
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We're not in the wrong if we choose to defend our rights. The Government is in the wrong, we should have a clear conscience about this
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Agreed. We are not required to obey laws that are unconstitutional.
 Quoting: Cybermerc


Agreed -

That they would even possess the audacity to propose such should, in and of itself, create such overwhelming outrage that every single other issue on your news (soap opera) channels would be deafened by it.

Apparently more important news revolves around the after-Christmas-deals to be found.
 Quoting: ClydeX


MSM are about ratings only, not reporting the truth. Most of what is called news is nothing more than a editorial piece. Some jackass giving their opinion on something, not reporting the facts.
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I believe what has become of all of the "news" networks (and this includes FOX) is a combination of a reality show and soap opera in order to occupy the limited attention of "viewers", while imprinting the vitriol necessary to further a greater passive and easily manipulated public.
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the revolutionist leaders would have to supply oxygen breathing stations and motorized couches for the fat ass revolutionaries and than after 9:30 mommy would call back for dinner
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the revolutionist leaders would have to supply oxygen breathing stations and motorized couches for the fat ass revolutionaries and than after 9:30 mommy would call back for dinner
lay down your xbox controller, johhnie

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That is true for some, but not for all that would participate. A lot of ex-military would be part of the 2% (or more) that would not give in. Not saying that they don't get fat too, but it is less likely.

Last Edited by Cybermerc on 12/28/2012 05:28 PM
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
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As the truckers say on the CB .... "You got THAT RIGHT ! "
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If it does happen, I'd be surprised if it was only 2% of the people fighting back.

If foreign troops (blue helmets) are deployed in America to confiscate guns I'd expect the military to really step up and give them the boot.

Do I expect it to really get this bad? Not really. Or at least I sincerely hope it doesn't.
 Quoting: Cybermerc


Let me make one thing clear...if this does pass this time it's different. No one here really knows me but I am an astute evaluator of this issue and have been for many years. This time everything is different. It will NOT go as the government plans. I see and hear the desperation of our people. This will not stand.

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Remember guys, report the seditious assholes...we gotta be smart about these threads. I hate babysitting.
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Agreed. My point was what I see and hear. People are not just using emotion, there is a lot of intellect this time. They see the the Constitution being subverted. I spent nearly an hour today watching and listening o people while they shop in the largest gun store in Virginia, they are scared, concerned and adamant. They will not acquiesce.
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Adolff Hitler said the first step to conquer a country is to DISARM the people. obama and Hitler are one and the same
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that would be the easiest way of stopping the guntards.
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Adolff Hitler said the first step to conquer a country is to DISARM the people. obama and Hitler are one and the same
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no one has even suggested disarming americans except guntards.

anyone else find that odd?
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You must stop referring to 'them' as government. They are a criminal cabal working for the jew boys.
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I know a LOT of people and not even one is going to register,nevermind turn their weapon in and I wouldn't want to be the ones fucking with these guys either because they are fucking some wild dudes.....
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Adolff Hitler said the first step to conquer a country is to DISARM the people. obama and Hitler are one and the same
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no one has even suggested disarming americans except guntards.

anyone else find that odd?
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You are wrong. U.S. Senator Diane Fiendstein said she wants all guns to be turned in.

And she was the primary author behind the first US assault weapons ban in 1995, and she's also the main sponsor of the new assault weapons ban they are working on now.

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