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Sun & NASA Bullshit exposed! Another source responsible for specific twisting of Earth's magnetic field & charged particle influx.

 
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Hello,

I have been analyzing the GOES-15 solar flares data for periods of time between february and april of the last 3 years
and i have found completely strange (but similar anomalies) data in the same period, i'am not and enhanced member so i can't post any images but you can all verify for yourself at the site :

[link to www.tesis.lebedev.ru] you just need to select the periods of time i'am talking about.

My english is very bad sory.

2010 - Starting at 27 february and ending at april 10 there is
always a big decline in the data graphs just before 08:00 and there are data failures (blank periods) in many days, this behaviour only ends at april 10, this anomalies are impossible to be generated by sun behaviour.

2011 - Starting at 24 february at + - 17:00 there are data failures in the graphs, this kind of behaviour continues until
april 13. I call yout atention for march 1 and after, a pattern of decline in graphics starts to appear near the same hour (06:00) every day... and blank periods are getting stronger... this only ends in april 13.

2012 - Starting at 24 february there are data failures (blank periods) in the graphs, they intensify in march with many data gaps, this kind of behaviour only end at april 12.

I would like a opinion about this....

thanks...
 Quoting: apm


Well the dates covered in this thread start on Feb 24 through April 13th.
Beyond the one time I gave a prediction on Feb 23rd.

I think we both know why there are data failures during this time frame.
 Quoting: Bending Light


The past few minutes I've been going through dates and see how the data feed gets cut out as u said.

Real interesting stuff, thank you for sharing!

clappa
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Amazing work spotting patterns, as in past videos as well!

I do wonder, though, if it is not that they are blaming the sun or manufacturing data for solar flares/filament eruptions/CMEs, but maybe these magnetosphere anomalies are precursors to solar activity. But then again, you pose an excellent question: If this precursor exists, surely someone would have noticed it by now other than you.

I do think that we have a magnetic/electric connection to the sun, and this could very well be a precursor, but why has no one noticed it!?!?
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Great observations you've made
that open up all sorts of possible
scenario's, eh?

Perhaps the earths magnetic field
is strongly affected by developing
solar activity before the sun
exhibits flares or earth exhibits
aurora's? If so, you may have found
a local method to predict solar
activity?

Perhaps there's an astronomical
alignment with some 'body', be it
fluff, nibiru, whatever... on a
regular, cyclical basis?

Perhaps you're not some 'random
guy' at all and are far more
intelligent and attentive to
detail than you give yourself
credit for?

The flux transfer events mentioned
by a previous poster may also have
some relevance too?

Great effort and I'm one impressed
earthling!
"If you do not go within
You WILL go without."

A wiser man than I

"Standing on truth
Ensures eternal support."

"There is a perfectly logical
explanation for everything
and
a logically perfect everything
for explanations."

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Hello,

I have been analyzing the GOES-15 solar flares data for periods of time between february and april of the last 3 years
and i have found completely strange (but similar anomalies) data in the same period, i'am not and enhanced member so i can't post any images but you can all verify for yourself at the site :

[link to www.tesis.lebedev.ru] you just need to select the periods of time i'am talking about.

My english is very bad sory.

2010 - Starting at 27 february and ending at april 10 there is
always a big decline in the data graphs just before 08:00 and there are data failures (blank periods) in many days, this behaviour only ends at april 10, this anomalies are impossible to be generated by sun behaviour.

2011 - Starting at 24 february at + - 17:00 there are data failures in the graphs, this kind of behaviour continues until
april 13. I call yout atention for march 1 and after, a pattern of decline in graphics starts to appear near the same hour (06:00) every day... and blank periods are getting stronger... this only ends in april 13.

2012 - Starting at 24 february there are data failures (blank periods) in the graphs, they intensify in march with many data gaps, this kind of behaviour only end at april 12.

I would like a opinion about this....

thanks...
 Quoting: apm


Well the dates covered in this thread start on Feb 24 through April 13th.
Beyond the one time I gave a prediction on Feb 23rd.

I think we both know why there are data failures during this time frame.
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Cover up, of course!
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Nice thread B.L.... Threads like this keep me coming back to GLP.

The next date to look out for is late February?

Also, have you looked into any other dates other than these main three that might demonstrate this phenomena with the magnetic field?

OP....Could you imagine if your computer crashed right before you pressed Submit?
Id be soo pissed!
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I was thinking the exact same thing while I was reading his post.

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So post up predictions for 2013, and we'll see if it works!
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Wonderful work, sir. Before wild speculation runs rampant, perhaps some serious theories on what is the source of this anomoly. Cover-ups and misdirection is a given. We must try to come together here and reason together. Again, excellent work. Please keep us updated.bumpbumpbump
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Thanks OP! hf
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Hello,

I have been analyzing the GOES-15 solar flares data for periods of time between february and april of the last 3 years
and i have found completely strange (but similar anomalies) data in the same period, i'am not and enhanced member so i can't post any images but you can all verify for yourself at the site :

[link to www.tesis.lebedev.ru] you just need to select the periods of time i'am talking about.

My english is very bad sory.

2010 - Starting at 27 february and ending at april 10 there is
always a big decline in the data graphs just before 08:00 and there are data failures (blank periods) in many days, this behaviour only ends at april 10, this anomalies are impossible to be generated by sun behaviour.

2011 - Starting at 24 february at + - 17:00 there are data failures in the graphs, this kind of behaviour continues until
april 13. I call yout atention for march 1 and after, a pattern of decline in graphics starts to appear near the same hour (06:00) every day... and blank periods are getting stronger... this only ends in april 13.

2012 - Starting at 24 february there are data failures (blank periods) in the graphs, they intensify in march with many data gaps, this kind of behaviour only end at april 12.

I would like a opinion about this....

thanks...
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Your english is just fine. Thanks for adding your findings to the discussion.

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Hell of a thread BL, much respect on your research and it holds weight. We should be able to go many directions from these postulations. It all connects,we just aren't given enough of the info,but we're slowly putting it together.Peace
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'Seems' obvious that we are CLOSER to another large body in space from late February though early April, as posted in another thread about two days ago.

AS the symptoms seem to be getting more 'out of hand', could it also be that the incoming (?) object is increasing it's speed of approach to our 'Main Sun' and the other object is our binary sun approaching ? ( Gravity = mass 1 X Mass2
divided by the distance SQUARED; meaning G increase FOUR times every times you HALVE that distance ! ).

IMHO, this IS our 'last' spring of anything normal, as it was 20 - 50 years ago
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A few possible factors to consider. In the yearly cycle, though this only changes slightly over time, the Sun moves through the 12 constellations of the zodiac. If I understand my astrology then the Sun is in conjunction with the galactic center in Nov-Dec when it is in Sagittarius. The opposite time of year May-June the Earth is between the Sun & galactic center, but in both instances the gravity and other forces are at their peak, and these alignments are close to the same dates which only slowly change over long periods due to various precession, sidereal & etc. as the signs don't exactly match the constellations over the 26k year cycle. But by all appearances the peaks occur close to the same dates twice per year. You get an idea of these tidal gravity forces by how the moon effects the tides and other 28 day cycles like female periods, etc..

The black hole in the center of our galaxy in Sagittarious holds all the stars in the Milky Way spiral arms so they orbit it, its gravity stretches huge distances, and there's lots of talk of other effects such as the galactic wave theory that some were tying to Dec. 21, 2012 and supposed Gamma rays.

My point is this could account for the stated effects which would be greatest twice yearly but accentuated perhaps in Springtime when the Earth is between the Sun & the galactic center.

Even though those dates might be ahead of the effect you are seeing it might be caused as we begin to enter that gravitational lineup sort of like surfing the wave as it is forming like an incoming tide. In any event these periods must peak & ebb on a regular basis and there might be an ebb effect when the Earth is at right angles to this line also.

These periodic cycles would also be bookended by the Solstices & Equinoxes for example the Winter solstice is about Dec. 21 as the Sun leaves Sagittarious and is between Earth and the galactic center.

Now there is a chance that the HAARP operators are aware of these energy fluxes and coincide their "attacks" the amplify certain cosmic waves. It would be interesting to compare your graphs against the HAARP readings & it's well known here something was up the week before the Japanese quake and that there were releases of energy along Japan's faults that sattellites picked up.

Perhaps they are timing it to add to the resonance effect & focus it, such as scalar weapons and Tesla effects such as his resonance device that could bring down a skyscraper with a relatively small energy input. Is that enough doom for you? I emphasize the galactic wave which you can Google, and it references a gamma ray event about 14,000 years ago that might have wiped out some species & caused geologic effects, and is due to recur.

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Here's another question. So of if acess to this NICT Simulation software was 'termintaed', so does that mean that there is currently no means for us to monitor the magnetosphere, and that we will not be able to view any graphs during these upcoming dates to verify that this is repeating?

If this is the case then are we pretty much left with looking for auroras & potentially significant EQ activity as our means for confirming the phenomena is reoccuring on these dates?

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If it's due to an astronomical,
alignment, an astrological
counterpart would also seem
logical... end/start of zodiac
isn't that far off...

Wondermwhat allowing for the
precession of the equinoxes
would do...

scratching
"If you do not go within
You WILL go without."

A wiser man than I

"Standing on truth
Ensures eternal support."

"There is a perfectly logical
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and
a logically perfect everything
for explanations."

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Amazing work spotting patterns, as in past videos as well!

I do wonder, though, if it is not that they are blaming the sun or manufacturing data for solar flares/filament eruptions/CMEs, but maybe these magnetosphere anomalies are precursors to solar activity. But then again, you pose an excellent question: If this precursor exists, surely someone would have noticed it by now other than you.

I do think that we have a magnetic/electric connection to the sun, and this could very well be a precursor, but why has no one noticed it!?!?
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Great observations you've made
that open up all sorts of possible
scenario's, eh?

Perhaps the earths magnetic field
is strongly affected by developing
solar activity before the sun
exhibits flares or earth exhibits
aurora's? If so, you may have found
a local method to predict solar
activity?

Perhaps there's an astronomical
alignment with some 'body', be it
fluff, nibiru, whatever... on a
regular, cyclical basis?

Perhaps you're not some 'random
guy' at all and are far more
intelligent and attentive to
detail than you give yourself
credit for?

The flux transfer events mentioned
by a previous poster may also have
some relevance too?

Great effort and I'm one impressed
earthling!
 Quoting: fellowearthling



Thank you both for your kind words.


"magnetosphere anomalies are precursors to solar activity"

Why the same dates year after year and how come no other times during the year? Earth's magnetic field in tiny compared to the mass of the Sun and why would this only now start to happen if the Sun is indeed the source?

"why has no one noticed it!?!?"

That's key..
I always asked myself that, perhaps people are studying BS data NASA is putting out is the answer.
Again the question remains: If the solar activity is legit and other forces in space NASA speaks for is accurate then why no one else has noticed all this????
What I shared is magnetic field and spaceweather data, all public and simple to see and understand.
I think people blindly believe whatever NASA puts out about the Sun well this thread proves NASA is bullshitting about a lot, especially the Sun.


"If so, you may have found
a local method to predict solar
activity?"

Again I'm a nobody that just studies data and things actually going on with the Earth.
I'm not putting myself down but rather speaking realistically.
There is a large scientific community, plus there is NASA.. if I was predicting "coming Solar activity" then others would have found have put this together before me.

FYI in the video I show David Morrison from NASA on my youtube channel saying "I don't understand science", where I replied:
"Being I don't understand science perhaps explain why by using this data predictions were made of exactly when changed particles would influx Earth's magnetosphere causing a bow shock of pressure and geomagnetic storms. Where as the predictions were made before any forecast from NASA/NOAA and before any "Solar eruption".

Of course I got no response, no anybody can respond to that.. it's undeniable.
Right after that conversation the source I was using NICT was terminated for good.
Thread: NICT Real-time Magnetosphere Simulation is now shut down for good! "Web services have been terminated"! Very interesting!


Start at 25 min to see the quotes.

"Perhaps there's an astronomical alignment with some 'body'"
That's what I believe and whatever it is hasn't been made "official" as is why the Sun bullshit cover up.
Which also answers this question "why has no one noticed it!?!?"

The alignments happen during that time frame and it's been getting worse (source getting closer)?
So that is WHY I'm now pushing this data hard, a couple months before I know things will pick up.
You all have an early warning and know what to look for.

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If it's due to an astronomical,
alignment, an astrological
counterpart would also seem
logical... end/start of zodiac
isn't that far off...

Wonder what allowing for the
precession of the equinoxes
would do...

scratching
"If you do not go within
You WILL go without."

A wiser man than I

"Standing on truth
Ensures eternal support."

"There is a perfectly logical
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and
a logically perfect everything
for explanations."

A phellow earthling
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JUPITER-SUN CONJUNCTIONS !!!

THESE DATES ARE ON OR NEAR JUPITER-SUN CONJUNCTIONS !!!

This means that when Jupiter is on the same side of the Earth as the Sun (Jupiter exists in the sky with the Sun very near by) Earth's mag. is getting extra pressure!

The correlation indicates that Jupiter is likely your source, or is affecting the Sun drastically!

[link to jabbingjupiter.com]

Your data goes back to 2010, well something happened to Jupiter in 2009. See above.
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Is it not interesting that ol' "Dr." Astro has nothing of value to offer when we have intelligent evidence, such as this?

ohyeah

Great thread OP!

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One of the best threads i've read in a while. Thanks a bunch OP.

Only got thru half of it since im on mobile so bump for later. Green for you!

Last Edited by Dapurps on 12/28/2012 09:14 PM
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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JUPITER-SUN CONJUNCTIONS !!!

THESE DATES ARE ON OR NEAR JUPITER-SUN CONJUNCTIONS !!!

This means that when Jupiter is on the same side of the Earth as the Sun (Jupiter exists in the sky with the Sun very near by) Earth's mag. is getting extra pressure!

The correlation indicates that Jupiter is likely your source, or is affecting the Sun drastically!

[link to jabbingjupiter.com]

Your data goes back to 2010, well something happened to Jupiter in 2009. See above.
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[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
Here is solar system simulator
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If this "happening" happens at the same time each year, am I correct in assuming it is a returning body? Like an invisible planet...meaning one we just cannot see?

Is it a pulsation that arrives once a year...like a giant heartbeat through space affecting stars inside its echo?

Could it be a magnetically "cloaked" ship that visits each year?

I appreciate your dedication and study on this subject. You care a great deal about getting to the truth. I hope we see the truth or are allowed to know the truth before long.

Anyone who has any brains should know something is not right. All we can do is wait, prepare, watch, and keep an open mind. Take any statement from tptb with a grain of salt.

As for you...stay in the crosswalks.
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OP, thank you for your replay. Please, check this link. If this is a fact then perhaps Moon is changing Earth's magnetic field but then what would be shifting Moon? And if so, there must be some third party (object?) which is doing it to both, Earth and Moon... Strange!

[link to youtu.be]
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If it's due to an astronomical,
alignment, an astrological
counterpart would also seem
logical... end/start of zodiac
isn't that far off...

Wonder what allowing for the
precession of the equinoxes
would do...

scratching

ETA: Oops, super slow double
post from slower than dial-up
place in the sticks...

Oh, and if it happens next
year, do we call it the
'Bending Light' effect?

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You WILL go without."

A wiser man than I

"Standing on truth
Ensures eternal support."

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JUPITER-SUN CONJUNCTIONS !!!

THESE DATES ARE ON OR NEAR JUPITER-SUN CONJUNCTIONS !!!

This means that when Jupiter is on the same side of the Earth as the Sun (Jupiter exists in the sky with the Sun very near by) Earth's mag. is getting extra pressure!

The correlation indicates that Jupiter is likely your source, or is affecting the Sun drastically!

[link to jabbingjupiter.com]

Your data goes back to 2010, well something happened to Jupiter in 2009. See above.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200


[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
Here is solar system simulator
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200


2/27/10
4/5/11
5/12/12
6/19/13

Jup-Sun line-ups.
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Is it not interesting that ol' "Dr." Astro has nothing of value to offer when we have intelligent evidence, such as this?

ohyeah

Great thread OP!

clappa
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right!!! where is that super shill now ???
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Here's another question. So of if acess to this NICT Simulation software was 'termintaed', so does that mean that there is currently no means for us to monitor the magnetosphere, and that we will not be able to view any graphs during these upcoming dates to verify that this is repeating?

If this is the case then are we pretty much left with looking for auroras & potentially significant EQ activity as our means for confirming the phenomena is reoccuring on these dates?

cool2
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Nope, here are links.. they are within the thread as well:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Study and monitor all you want, confirm the dates in the screenshots if you wish as well.

Bare in mind NICT was more widely used, not only was the feed terminated but all data history which was stored.

Thread: NICT Real-time Magnetosphere Simulation is now shut down for good! "Web services have been terminated"! Very interesting!

I gave a forecast in my other thread here:

Thread: Forecast February-May 2013 for Earth Booms, 8+ quakes, Sun Agenda, Magnetic field.. all based on previous statistical history & predictions.


Again it's important to remember the answers are in front of us.. I didn't need NASA, some "scientist" or a "channel" to tell me the answers.
The Earth is telling us what's going on, we just gotta pay attention to her.
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I'm cunvinced.

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JUPITER-SUN CONJUNCTIONS !!!

THESE DATES ARE ON OR NEAR JUPITER-SUN CONJUNCTIONS !!!

This means that when Jupiter is on the same side of the Earth as the Sun (Jupiter exists in the sky with the Sun very near by) Earth's mag. is getting extra pressure!

The correlation indicates that Jupiter is likely your source, or is affecting the Sun drastically!

[link to jabbingjupiter.com]

Your data goes back to 2010, well something happened to Jupiter in 2009. See above.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200


[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
Here is solar system simulator
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200


2/27/10
4/5/11
5/12/12
6/19/13

Jup-Sun line-ups.
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One of OP's sources was cut in May, just in time to not show the May data for 5/12/12.
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Thread: Weather goes haywire over Europe: scientists baffled by erratic swings of jet stream


check out page 1, 2/3rds way down the page...An AC left really good info about weather and the jet stream.
Love & Light...
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way to keep an eye out man. i've still got a few more pieces to put together, but i would be on the look out for a comet/capacitor, im on board for electric universe/ thunderbolts project. let real science rule.





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