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Gasman28110 User ID: 4099771 United States 12/29/2012 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If You Think this Republican Bull Pucky Isn't Going to Effect YOU Think Again Think the Farm Bill By letting a "reasonable piece of legislation" pass for the past 100 or so years look at the shit hole we are now in. Your "reasonable" legislation is so full of bullshit and "pork" from BOTH parties. Each and every person in the shit hole we call a capitol needs to be tried for treason and PUBLICLY executed after being found guilty by a jury of THE PEOPLE, not their piers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States 12/29/2012 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If You Think this Republican Bull Pucky Isn't Going to Effect YOU Think Again Think the Farm Bill When the House left before Christmas it gave us all a lump of coal as a present! The Repo majority to a person refused to vote on the new Farm Bill. This Bill amongst other things pays for last summers crop insurance/establishes subsidies/provides insurance for this year as well as a host of other farm related items including the FOOD STAMP PROGRAM. The FOOD STAMP PROGRAM benefits those who live below the poverty level especially those that have children. The stupid fucking REPOS are playing with fire here. We are already hearing of MILK priced at $8 a gallon and that is just the tip of the iceberg. Farmers decimated by last summers drouth who have crop insurance claims will not be able to buy seed for this years crop leading to far lower production and skyrocketing prices which we will ALL PAY so that these MORONS can ply their ideology. Call your Congress Critter and tell them to get this damn bill PASSED NOW! By the way don't give me any bull shit about misuse of funds by a small percentage of those recipients being any kind of excuse here. I have noted that the same person who rails against any form of gun control usually is the first one to step up and use the above excuse to defend their position re gun control. I am one of the first to defend 2nd Amend rights and I can't for the life of me see how anyone who takes that position can turn around and defend the Republican controlled Houses position on food stamps. Crop insurance claims for 2012 already paid to the majority who have filed claims. By the majority you don't happen to mean Corporate farms! Corporate Farm #1: A Man, his Wife, and his oldest Son, plus an Uncle. Owning 40 acres. Corporate Farm #2: An extended family of 12 people, CEO, CFO, etc.. total 12 people including farm hands. 20 Sections of Land. Corporate Farm #3: Publicly traded multi-national corporation with tens of thousands of publicly traded shares. Corporation holding hundreds to thousands of square miles of land. Employees in the hundreds if not thousands. Be aware when the term "corporation" is being used. Un-incorporated farm: Ma, Pop, and three kids and grand pa. 40 acres and a mule. You, perhaps, one acre of garden. All of these are farms. Necessary and Proper Clause. It is necessary and proper that no one in the USA be left starving as long as food is being produced in sufficient quantity. Hence, FOOD STAMPS. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States 12/29/2012 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If You Think this Republican Bull Pucky Isn't Going to Effect YOU Think Again Think the Farm Bill how much of that falls under the the powers as enumerated in Article 1: Section 8? Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder Article 1 - The Legislative Branch Section 8 - Powers of Congress The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; To borrow money on the credit of the United States; To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States; To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures; To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States; To establish Post Offices and Post Roads; To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries; To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court; To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations; To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water; To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; To provide and maintain a Navy; To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces; To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress; To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof. ================== It is not in the interest of the General Welfare of the United States (meaning We The People) to be allowed to starve to death, be homeless, and go without cloths. Or is it? The Food Stamps (or similar concepts) are all about providing for the General Welfare of The People, both collectively and individually. (Or so I would argue). As long as one US Citizen, Resident, or even Tourist is without food in this nation, the nation has absolutely no business exporting any food at all to any other nation. We come first, second, and third and if there is then any food left over in surplus then we export. What many do not seem to understand is that any and all TAXATION is already a form of Socialism, also already a re-distribution of wealth. The whole question revolves around to just who it is that such re-distribution is being given to. Consider these things. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States 12/29/2012 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If You Think this Republican Bull Pucky Isn't Going to Effect YOU Think Again Think the Farm Bill TPTB have worked over time to destroy industry in the USA, and now they are working to destroy agriculture in the USA as well. You shall not use fire. You shall not manufacture even by hand. You shall not grow food. Sit-Up and pay attention. |
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