why make a big deal over gun control?

thx for the 1-star hick

For the Four Zillionth time you Numm Nutts: The firearms civilians own ARE NOT FULLY AUTOMATIC

ok, listen. the only reason canada is able to be canada as you know it, is because the USA is your next door neighbor. No forigen power will ever invade the shores of North America because it is the home of the USA. Any forigen power would have to be tremendously stupid to invade our shores, because we do not need to rely on the Armed Forces to come and protect us. We can protect ourselves, and our land. So, you just sit up there, on your high horse, and ignore the legs that hold you up there. Ass Hole.

the legs that hold us. LOL

^^^ That was me, I forgot to sign in.

Registration is followed by confiscation.

Derp.

if anyone were to invade our continent they would have already. you are notthe world superpower every country with a good military is equal

^^ They want a nice list so it is easier to get them shortly thereafter.

magine that smiley represents you, go back to rotten ronnies
oh and when you are done that take your fat ass to wal-mart and buy some discount toilet tissues:picki:

You still dont realize why they havent, do you? Why do you think China is over there, rubbing their hands together, drooling all over theirselves, saying "Take their guns away!!"

OP got received one star from because you don't research the facts!

What is an assault rifle?
Do you know full auto arms are NOT generally owned by the public. Yes a tax stamp and thorough background check and you can get one but that's few and far between.

I hunt with an AR every year for deer and coyotes and the reason I use them is first little meat or pelt damage and a fast follow up if needed.

I'm sure you already know there is difference between a semi auto versus a full auto RIGHT?!!!!

i honesly don't think china could give two fucks they have the best military, biggest economy, why invade a dying nation?

I don't know. Maybe all the resources that America still has an abundant amount of? Maybe for more land to expand their population into? Maybe they dislike Canadians, and have to go through America before they can quench their Canadian blood-lust?

All of those reason support the potential that they would invade, as well as their extreme overpopulation, and not enough land and resources.

Once the guns are gone 3 things happen..

Look at history once this happens.. Millions of people are marched away to be killed,, starved,, just shot in the head.. It has happens every time in every country its happened..

2nd,,, our doors are open for any other country to walk in and just take us over.. As it is now there are 300 million arms in the hands of people all over the USA, The reason we could not win the war in NAM was for the same reason.. Farmers in the day and killers in the night,..

3rd.. Govts are known to feed for themselves.. When the system stops feeding them what they want is when they turn and start taking away everything.. History does not lie,, and it repeats itself unless we learn from the mistakes of other over the years.. Keep our guns,, keep our freedoms..

Sodbust

I think you need to be an American to really understand the psyche of the "right to bear arms". If our government become tyrannical, or foreign elements from within plan to destroy our rather "young" country (Agenda 21), that we have the ability to fight for our rights and our country. America, love us or hate us, has been a beacon of safety for those escaping tyranny. We simply love our freedom, and will fight to keep it.
We are in deep trouble right now because foreign elements have usurped our government and bought our representatives. We stand for something, or we stand for nothing.

Great post.

Thankfully the AC does not speak for all Canadians. I support Americans 100% It is you RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS for fucks sake..Guns do not kill people, People kill people.

same over here.


not one multi fatality shooting since regulation thirteen years ago, not one case of someone being unable to defend themselves and everyone with a legal purpose for a firearm can own one.


have yet to see one fact that requires any civilian to have the weapons in question.


only thing I can think of is a big game hunter with one arm and poor marksmanship.

Second thoughts?

It's probably too late dude. Not ragging you, but your thoughts are already out there.

Hell, there are millions of us on the list.

which is exactly why people shouldn't have semi automatic firearms.


makes the killing all that easier.

Really? Not one single case of someone being unable to defend themselves?



Wow you guys really are automatons, aren't you?

Socialist zombies.

Brain-dead from birth?

All in favor of gun control, raise your right hand!

You'll never convince these fanatics of that kind of logic.

They type of Americans you see posting their garbage here have ZERO ability or willingness to use common sense. They are just a motley mix of cowards, bullies, intellectual washouts, violent mentalities, and little guys with big guns.

Because of these types and assorted other lowlifes, America is becoming the disgrace of the universe.

There are small factions of people who are intellectuals, believe in common sense and decency, are anti-violence, etc. but the numbers are dwindling due to the unrestrained breeding by the mentally deficient, alcoholics, druggies, and the just plain stupid.

This is to the both of ya'll

Crocodile Dundee killed by gun confiscating police.

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Last Edited by Copperhead on 12/28/2012 08:57 PM

Sir, the weapons are needed for the coming Civil War.

Immigration always leads to war.

You are a fool to think that "foreign elements" are any more of a threat than domestic elements.

The Following is a Paper I wrote for School A few weeks ago.


Benjamin Franklin said “Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither.”

No one ever said freedom was safe. In fact, upon true realization and understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that true freedom is actually the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guaranties in freedom. The only security one can have in a truly free environment is security they provide for themselves at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

Last year, in Wisconsin, the “concealed carry” law passed, allowing people who attain the proper license to carry a concealed firearm. I believe that this is a step in the right direction, giving the law abiding citizen the freedom to defend themselves against a criminal. The concealed carry law serves as more of a crime deterrent. What kind of criminal would attempt to victimize a citizen that might be able to effectively defend themselves against the crime? Criminals already have blatant disregard for the law, and in the case where guns would be made illegal by the law, do you really think that criminals would just give up their guns based on the laws they already disregard? No! The only persons affected by oppressive gun control laws is the law abiding citizen, whom, in that case, would no longer be able to effectively defend themselves against the illegal gun toting criminal. In fact, the U.S. Department of Justice conducted research on 2000 felons. Of these felons, it was found that 34% had been “wounded or captured by an armed victim”, and 40% admitted that they had been deterred from committing a crime in the first place because they feared the potential victim was armed.

As of March 2012, there are only 2 places in the U.S. that have prohibited concealed carry; Washington D.C., and Illinois. Go look up the crime rates in those places yourself, Chicago in particular. There are different classifications that states can use to establish their concealed carry laws. There are “Shall Issue” states, where issuing authorities are required to issue a permit to any applicant that meets the objective statutory criteria. There are “may issue” states, which are stricter than the fore mentioned because of how they classify certain disqualifying felonies, or they have different firearms training requirements. And finally there are “no permit required” states. Four states fall into this category, including Vermont, Wyoming, Arizona and Alaska.

Florida has set the standard for the “shall issue” model. Since they adopted a concealed carry law in 1987, the overall crime rate has dropped 32% and the homicide rate has dropped 58%. Also, by 2009, Florida had issued 1,360,000 permits, of which only 165 had been revoked due to crimes by the permit holder. That is less than .02%. I would say that those numbers speak scores as to the reliability and discretion of the eligibility requirements, as well as to the effectiveness of such laws overall. ¬

Criminals are criminals, and they will always be a part of this world. Sure, we can imagine, and work towards an ideal future, but in order to achieve this ideal future, we must take into consideration the reality we actually exist in today, without the ideals. Unless one can travel back in time, and un-invent the gun, guns are going to be a permanent part of our reality. We must consider this in our imagined ideal future, and integrate them into our vision. I believe that the concealed carry laws are moving us closer to this realization. Remember, there are no guarantees in true freedom. How free do you want to be?

Needless to say, my instructor (from the UK, mind you) did not like it so much.

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