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IRQ_1 User ID: 24600584  United States12/28/2012 10:59 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about just getting 7 altenators spinning at the same time. That adds up to almost 110 DC. You could just switch to DC lighting. Strip a car out. One alternator runs the radio, lights, heater blowerbox, and all the other stuff in a running car. Don't go AC, go DC. Might be cheaper than you think. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30240153 Alternators are AC. Ya know, they 'alternate'. You can't series AC current. The lack of basic electric knowledge in here is amusing. But all modern alternators have built in rectifiers (diodes). Jack of all trades, master of none. We are all the result of our past choices meeting the future. "shall not be infringed." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23755869 United States12/28/2012 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about just getting 7 altenators spinning at the same time. That adds up to almost 110 DC. You could just switch to DC lighting. Strip a car out. One alternator runs the radio, lights, heater blowerbox, and all the other stuff in a running car. Don't go AC, go DC. Might be cheaper than you think. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30240153 Alternators are AC. Ya know, they 'alternate'. You can't series AC current. The lack of basic electric knowledge in here is amusing. But all modern alternators have built in rectifiers (diodes). Regardless, you still can't series them. |
| ChickenLittleMessiah User ID: 1267719 United States12/28/2012 11:02 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ChickenLittleMessiah Did you see the weight generator the other day posted here? The one that ran the led light. Think of that on a bigger level attached to a generator that puts out enough volts to run your home. Instead of one weight just going down once. You need a double weight system with a gearing system in the cable pully. Once one weight goes down while pulling the other weight back up , then the system shifts gears making the weight at the bottom liter , thus its continual motion of up and down. The generator will turn forever. With gearing you can make 200 pounds feel like 5 pounds. The weights will just see saw each other all day long. You can builds a transformer onto the generator that regulates the electricity to 110 volts etc. You're such a simpleton. Your idea is akin to plugging an electric motor into a generator that is being driven by the electric motor. Conservation of energy. Read up on it. what? I wont be plugging in anything. Electricity from generators having nothing to do with the motor turning the generator turbine. In electricity generation, an electric generator is a device that converts mechanical energy to electrical energy The mechanical energy im talking about will be a weight and pulley perpetual motion system. But oh well it don't matter. Lol.... and how do you plan to overcome the inefficiencies in the system? Mainly, friction. grease and bearings... dude have you ever worked a day in your life on real mechanical shit?  M.I.B Utopian agenda credentials ................................ Unit 21 of Shadow division Galactic federation omni connection certification. 1000k of light permit Agenda 21 cert. Green/Blue Code of GFOL cert. Backlog unit cert. Galactic Front of Alien drone operation cert. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23755869 United States12/28/2012 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23755869 You're such a simpleton. Your idea is akin to plugging an electric motor into a generator that is being driven by the electric motor. Conservation of energy. Read up on it. what? I wont be plugging in anything. Electricity from generators having nothing to do with the motor turning the generator turbine. In electricity generation, an electric generator is a device that converts mechanical energy to electrical energy The mechanical energy im talking about will be a weight and pulley perpetual motion system. But oh well it don't matter. Lol.... and how do you plan to overcome the inefficiencies in the system? Mainly, friction. grease and bearings... dude have you ever worked a day in your life on real mechanical shit? And how will you overcome the resistance and resulting energy lost to hear in the generator windings? |
| Kirk User ID: 25384388 United States12/28/2012 11:08 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| IRQ_1 User ID: 24600584 United States12/28/2012 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about just getting 7 altenators spinning at the same time. That adds up to almost 110 DC. You could just switch to DC lighting. Strip a car out. One alternator runs the radio, lights, heater blowerbox, and all the other stuff in a running car. Don't go AC, go DC. Might be cheaper than you think. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30240153 Alternators are AC. Ya know, they 'alternate'. You can't series AC current. The lack of basic electric knowledge in here is amusing. But all modern alternators have built in rectifiers (diodes). Regardless, you still can't series them. And you can't series a DC output because? Not that it matters most 110+ is made for AC anyway, while most DC is 12+. Last Edited by IRQ_1 on 12/28/2012 11:12 PM Jack of all trades, master of none. We are all the result of our past choices meeting the future. "shall not be infringed." |
Dr. Acula Forum Moderator User ID: 90675 United States12/28/2012 11:09 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ChickenLittleMessiah what? I wont be plugging in anything. Electricity from generators having nothing to do with the motor turning the generator turbine. In electricity generation, an electric generator is a device that converts mechanical energy to electrical energy The mechanical energy im talking about will be a weight and pulley perpetual motion system. But oh well it don't matter. Lol.... and how do you plan to overcome the inefficiencies in the system? Mainly, friction. grease and bearings... dude have you ever worked a day in your life on real mechanical shit? And how will you overcome the resistance and resulting energy lost to hear in the generator windings? this is like mechanix 101 to you isnt it? are you taking notes? my solution is magic magic always works I am a HelpTard, need Help? Ask me! Peace Means Reloading Your Guns! Some of my custom graphics are featured in the Official GLP Store: [link to www.cafepress.com]  |
| ChickenLittleMessiah User ID: 1267719 United States12/28/2012 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ChickenLittleMessiah what? I wont be plugging in anything. Electricity from generators having nothing to do with the motor turning the generator turbine. In electricity generation, an electric generator is a device that converts mechanical energy to electrical energy The mechanical energy im talking about will be a weight and pulley perpetual motion system. But oh well it don't matter. Lol.... and how do you plan to overcome the inefficiencies in the system? Mainly, friction. grease and bearings... dude have you ever worked a day in your life on real mechanical shit? And how will you overcome the resistance and resulting energy lost to hear in the generator windings? explain what you are trying to say in simpleton terms? You talking about my rpm ratio for the generator? M.I.B Utopian agenda credentials ................................ Unit 21 of Shadow division Galactic federation omni connection certification. 1000k of light permit Agenda 21 cert. Green/Blue Code of GFOL cert. Backlog unit cert. Galactic Front of Alien drone operation cert. |
| ChickenLittleMessiah User ID: 1267719 United States12/28/2012 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it will work on multiple sets of gearing cogs and electricity generators don't have much resistance. I will get my preferred rmp's. Even with slow moving weights. They don't have compression like a gas engine. They just spin on magnetos.They could be oil filled , and huge but then ill just have to make it really big and use 1 ton weights.  Last Edited by imdone on 12/28/2012 11:15 PM M.I.B Utopian agenda credentials ................................ Unit 21 of Shadow division Galactic federation omni connection certification. 1000k of light permit Agenda 21 cert. Green/Blue Code of GFOL cert. Backlog unit cert. Galactic Front of Alien drone operation cert. |
| JEACES User ID: 817672 United States12/28/2012 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What your describing is a perpetual motion machine. There have been many attempts at this before. A few have claimed to have mastered it. When I was going to school for electrical engineering I was intrigued by the idea but failed to come up with a working model myself. I did figure out how to generate free electricity utilizing radio waves but there are many models of this already on the internet.  Love everyone and Everything for you/we are all one and the same. |
| Kirk User ID: 25384388 United States12/28/2012 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about just getting 7 altenators spinning at the same time. That adds up to almost 110 DC. You could just switch to DC lighting. Strip a car out. One alternator runs the radio, lights, heater blowerbox, and all the other stuff in a running car. Don't go AC, go DC. Might be cheaper than you think. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30240153 Alternators are AC. Ya know, they 'alternate'. You can't series AC current. The lack of basic electric knowledge in here is amusing. But all modern alternators have built in rectifiers (diodes). Regardless, you still can't series them. you don't need to. Years ago there was a long time advert on a switch box and some wires and after you installed it you could run your engine up to about 2000 rpm and power your skil saw or drill too far away from the house to run an extension cord. I think if you tried this today you would have to replace the diodes and you would have to go inside the alternator for some of your wiring because voltage regulators are inside the alternator now. Last Edited by Kirk on 12/28/2012 11:20 PM Worry is a misuse of the imagination. |
| IRQ_1 User ID: 24600584 United States12/28/2012 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23755869 Lol.... and how do you plan to overcome the inefficiencies in the system? Mainly, friction. grease and bearings... dude have you ever worked a day in your life on real mechanical shit? And how will you overcome the resistance and resulting energy lost to hear in the generator windings? this is like mechanix 101 to you isnt it? are you taking notes? my solution is magic magic always works That damned Arthur C. Clarke.  Jack of all trades, master of none. We are all the result of our past choices meeting the future. "shall not be infringed." |
| ChickenLittleMessiah User ID: 1267719 United States12/28/2012 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What your describing is a perpetual motion machine. There have been many attempts at this before. A few have claimed to have mastered it. When I was going to school for electrical engineering I was intrigued by the idea but failed to come up with a working model myself. I did figure out how to generate free electricity utilizing radio waves but there are many models of this already on the internet. Quoting: JEACES The problem is people having to figure out the one gear cog that runs the "back and forth weight motion cog" into a single spinning cog motion in one direction to complete the generator gearing system.You need a cork screw type gear for that... like a spinning top uses " the kids toy". M.I.B Utopian agenda credentials ................................ Unit 21 of Shadow division Galactic federation omni connection certification. 1000k of light permit Agenda 21 cert. Green/Blue Code of GFOL cert. Backlog unit cert. Galactic Front of Alien drone operation cert. |
| Dr. Acula Forum Moderator User ID: 90675 United States12/28/2012 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ChickenLittleMessiah grease and bearings... dude have you ever worked a day in your life on real mechanical shit? And how will you overcome the resistance and resulting energy lost to hear in the generator windings? this is like mechanix 101 to you isnt it? are you taking notes? my solution is magic magic always works That damned Arthur C. Clarke. damn him indeed and his Odyssey  I am a HelpTard, need Help? Ask me! Peace Means Reloading Your Guns! Some of my custom graphics are featured in the Official GLP Store: [link to www.cafepress.com] |
| IRQ_1 User ID: 24600584 United States12/28/2012 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23755869 Alternators are AC. Ya know, they 'alternate'. You can't series AC current. The lack of basic electric knowledge in here is amusing. But all modern alternators have built in rectifiers (diodes). Regardless, you still can't series them. you don't need to. Years ago there was a long time advert on a switch box and some wires and after you installed it you could run your engine up to about 2000 rpm and power your skil saw or drill too far away from the house to run an extension cord. I think if you tried this today you would have to replace the diodes and you would have to go inside the alternator for some of your wiring because voltage regulators are inside the alternator now. Are you sure this isn't just an inverter? You would have to completely rewire an alternator from a car to output 60hz and even then you would have to keep the rpm steady to not burn out any 110+ AC motors attached. Jack of all trades, master of none. We are all the result of our past choices meeting the future. "shall not be infringed." |
| JEACES User ID: 817672 United States12/28/2012 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm going to have to agree with chicken little. The coeficient of gravity alone would cause problems with this theory and be more specific when speaking about generators becuase many generators do have substantial resistance . Love everyone and Everything for you/we are all one and the same. |
| mr_brightside74 User ID: 23755869 United States12/28/2012 11:35 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23755869 Alternators are AC. Ya know, they 'alternate'. You can't series AC current. The lack of basic electric knowledge in here is amusing. But all modern alternators have built in rectifiers (diodes). Regardless, you still can't series them. And you can't series a DC output because? Not that it matters most 110+ is made for AC anyway, while most DC is 12+. you can't series a DC motor which is essentially what a rectified AC motor is because the windings are continually switching on/off as the armature commutes. Come on... use a bit of thinking. Mr. Brightside |
| mr_brightside74 User ID: 23755869 United States12/28/2012 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it will work on multiple sets of gearing cogs and electricity generators don't have much resistance. I will get my preferred rmp's. Even with slow moving weights. Quoting: ChickenLittleMessiah They don't have compression like a gas engine. They just spin on magnetos.They could be oil filled , and huge but then ill just have to make it really big and use 1 ton weights. ok... you'll never understand until you try to build it yourself. How about this. I will pay you $50,000 in cash if you can build this device that will generate more power than it consumes. No joke. $50k in cash. Mr. Brightside |
| ChickenLittleMessiah User ID: 1267719 United States12/28/2012 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it will work on multiple sets of gearing cogs and electricity generators don't have much resistance. I will get my preferred rmp's. Even with slow moving weights. Quoting: ChickenLittleMessiah They don't have compression like a gas engine. They just spin on magnetos.They could be oil filled , and huge but then ill just have to make it really big and use 1 ton weights. ok... you'll never understand until you try to build it yourself. How about this. I will pay you $50,000 in cash if you can build this device that will generate more power than it consumes. No joke. $50k in cash. If i built it , wouldn't it be worth a lot more then 50k?  M.I.B Utopian agenda credentials ................................ Unit 21 of Shadow division Galactic federation omni connection certification. 1000k of light permit Agenda 21 cert. Green/Blue Code of GFOL cert. Backlog unit cert. Galactic Front of Alien drone operation cert. |
| IRQ_1 User ID: 24600584 United States12/28/2012 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you can't series a DC output because? Not that it matters most 110+ is made for AC anyway, while most DC is 12+. you can't series a DC motor which is essentially what a rectified AC motor is because the windings are continually switching on/off as the armature commutes. Come on... use a bit of thinking. Have you heard about capacitors? Jack of all trades, master of none. We are all the result of our past choices meeting the future. "shall not be infringed." |
| Here for the moment User ID: 14554879 United States12/29/2012 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't overcome the effects of entropy. Perpetual motion is impossible because of entropy. Even the universe itself is (theoretically) governed by the same forces of nature. The expansion of the last 13.7+/- billion years may go on for as many more or longer, but one day the movement will cease much like a cell expanding until the resistance of the surrounding cells stop it's growth, or limit its footprint. In the case of the universe, assuming expansion is not stopped by other dimensional membranes, and empty space is without friction, then the universe would overcome entropy and be the only true perpetual motion. |
| mr_brightside74 User ID: 23755869 United States12/29/2012 12:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you can't series a DC output because? Not that it matters most 110+ is made for AC anyway, while most DC is 12+. you can't series a DC motor which is essentially what a rectified AC motor is because the windings are continually switching on/off as the armature commutes. Come on... use a bit of thinking. Have you heard about capacitors? Have you heard about inductance? Mr. Brightside |
| mr_brightside74 User ID: 23755869 United States12/29/2012 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it will work on multiple sets of gearing cogs and electricity generators don't have much resistance. I will get my preferred rmp's. Even with slow moving weights. Quoting: ChickenLittleMessiah They don't have compression like a gas engine. They just spin on magnetos.They could be oil filled , and huge but then ill just have to make it really big and use 1 ton weights. ok... you'll never understand until you try to build it yourself. How about this. I will pay you $50,000 in cash if you can build this device that will generate more power than it consumes. No joke. $50k in cash. If i built it , wouldn't it be worth a lot more then 50k? so what's stopping you? oh wait.... I know what's stopping you. the laws of thermodynamics. Last Edited by mr_brightside74 on 12/29/2012 12:51 AM Mr. Brightside |
| IRQ_1 User ID: 24600584 United States12/29/2012 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: IRQ_1 And you can't series a DC output because? Not that it matters most 110+ is made for AC anyway, while most DC is 12+. you can't series a DC motor which is essentially what a rectified AC motor is because the windings are continually switching on/off as the armature commutes. Come on... use a bit of thinking. Have you heard about capacitors? Have you heard about inductance? I thought I saw something on PBS about that very subject. If your point is about keeping pulses of DC synchronized then the capacitor is your friend. We're dealing with the output of a generator not the internals so inductance really doesn't apply here. Jack of all trades, master of none. We are all the result of our past choices meeting the future. "shall not be infringed." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30240153 United States12/29/2012 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about just getting 7 altenators spinning at the same time. That adds up to almost 110 DC. You could just switch to DC lighting. Strip a car out. One alternator runs the radio, lights, heater blowerbox, and all the other stuff in a running car. Don't go AC, go DC. Might be cheaper than you think. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30240153 Alternators are AC. Ya know, they 'alternate'. You can't series AC current. The lack of basic electric knowledge in here is amusing. Could you explain away this then? [link to www.youtube.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30240153 United States12/29/2012 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about just getting 7 altenators spinning at the same time. That adds up to almost 110 DC. You could just switch to DC lighting. Strip a car out. One alternator runs the radio, lights, heater blowerbox, and all the other stuff in a running car. Don't go AC, go DC. Might be cheaper than you think. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30240153 Alternators are AC. Ya know, they 'alternate'. You can't series AC current. The lack of basic electric knowledge in here is amusing. Could you explain away this then? [link to www.youtube.com] here's a prettier one you can probably shoot down quick. I'm happy to amuse you. It's your turn now. |
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| lucifer9 User ID: 21435704 United States12/29/2012 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do so when you think that they will reveal that technology. I guess a better term would be when do you think people will tire of the lies and hidden technologies and demand there release Unity is our greatest ally.. For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come... I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets. 7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few. |
