The Chakra system, awakened and flawed... Part II | |
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| Ministar User ID: 16227053 12/29/2012 03:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I share here is not to tare down your thread. What I know about the chakras (body) is that it is not a natural body.. but an overlayed body (4D body) to keep us controlled through the chakras and also through the pineal gland. The first thing you 'learn' from new age sites, gurus, is to clean or heal your chakras and not doing this yourself, but via other persons, energies (entities such as saint germain). This is realy bad stuff. A lot of people are being controlled by these chakras. There is one true center everyone has, in the center of your chest, there you find your true heart, connection to your true self, there is the seed of this universe which connects us with mother earth, father sun and the universe. We all have aspects/fragments of ourselfs in mother earth/father sun and in all the dimensions in this universe of light, which we came to explore in many different levels. Dark entities knew about our journey and developped a mind programm to keep us trapped (religion and now newage). This is how I feel this is true. I experienced some mind programs, but I now can see through the veils, the program, connecting with my true self again. I wanted to share this with you dear friend, because i love your threads and your loving heart and also to share this with others. I can not tell others what to think or do, i know you don't do that either, just sharing. ![]() |
| 141 (OP) User ID: 4449580 12/29/2012 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for asking There is a threefold nature of the pineal gland and the third eye... The two outer layers are illusive and holds the person in ego traps, while the innermost layer (which again is three-fold in nature), have three levels of truth, leading to awareness based on our true nature... Outer layer: Solar plexus connects through the ego to the outer part of the third eye, which is highly sensitive to the astral layer which hold a lot of imposed images, which are not real, but will make an impact on the personality, through fear, obsession, false channelings and so on... This will have a very disharmonic frequency to the bodies... Second layer: This is still illusive, yet more subtle in nature... It unfolds through an imbalanced between the solar-plexus (imbalanced ego) and the throat-chakra(control and creativity)... Many being awakened in this level have delusions of grandeur, being this and this powerful entity, or delusions to communicating directly with God and so on... This is reflected by the fake Gods and entities which roam the astral and lower mental areas... Again this is still disharmonic to the bodies of emanation, yet many self-proclaimed 'immortal' souls have obtained a level of power and control from this level of awareness, going around the awakened heart... Third layer This is the first 'real' layer, and it actually involve the pineal gland directly/physically, while the two outer/illusive layers only is rooted in the energybodies surrounding it... To reach this layer, a level of faith in the heart is needed, faith, purity and dedication... That combined with a true intention to listen to our Divine Source Mother and Father, and a urge to act this out in the actual life lived... This way an energetic bridge between the Crown (heart in the crown) and the Heart (crown in the heart) starts to activate, connecting the two, and thus also activating the first true layer of the brow chakra... This will be an activation inside out, which does not involve the astral and mental layers, but rather is an inner process of awakening... This is involves a harmonic frequency for the bodies, which will give birth to true communication with our deepest nature, as well as our Divine Source... It is important to stress that it is not necessary to go through the two outer illusive layers, to awaken this, bc they are rather traps to keep the ego in power position... The two deeper true layers of the pineal, involves connecting the essential crystal of the root chakra, giving a true inner balance, and in the final layer connecting with the Rose of the World, which will result in true sharing and a collective building of that true gateway/bridge to our Source/One life, which will result in a life in balance and respect for all part of existence, inwards as well as outwards... Again it is important to stress that these layers are more collectively unfolding than personal, so that it takes a wave effect, starting through and from every each one of us to create that connection... Hope any of this resonate Lots of love Truth and Love... |
| 141 (OP) User ID: 4449580 12/29/2012 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I share here is not to tare down your thread. What I know about the chakras (body) is that it is not a natural body.. but an overlayed body (4D body) to keep us controlled through the chakras and also through the pineal gland. The first thing you 'learn' from new age sites, gurus, is to clean or heal your chakras and not doing this yourself, but via other persons, energies (entities such as saint germain). This is realy bad stuff. A lot of people are being controlled by these chakras. There is one true center everyone has, in the center of your chest, there you find your true heart, connection to your true self, there is the seed of this universe which connects us with mother earth, father sun and the universe. We all have aspects/fragments of ourselfs in mother earth/father sun and in all the dimensions in this universe of light, which we came to explore in many different levels. Dark entities knew about our journey and developped a mind programm to keep us trapped (religion and now newage). This is how I feel this is true. I experienced some mind programs, but I now can see through the veils, the program, connecting with my true self again. I wanted to share this with you dear friend, because i love your threads and your loving heart and also to share this with others. I can not tell others what to think or do, i know you don't do that either, just sharing. Quoting: Ministar ![]() Thanks for sharing this, my loved friend And yes, I would never tell anyone what to think, and the more we share, the deeper our wisdom and understanding goes... From my perspective, there are many truths in this, and it is so important to stress that working with the energy-system, should always be based on a loving approach, to one self, to Father and Mother Divine, and to Creation/All... There are so many power traps in this, and so many who tries to control, by hidden energy attacks, by imposing all kind of stuff in astral, mental and even soul-levels... As I see it, it is important to make it an inwards journey, connecting to our own heart, and looking deep and honestly into that mirror... That way we are less likely to fall into all kind of traps, bc we are honestly prepared to work with ourselves and bc we are dedicated to walk the path out of love, which naturally nourishes our ability to self reflect... There are more outer/illusive layers in this and perhaps you can use the description of the pineal gland above, bc that repeats itself in many ways throughout the energy system... For me, the chakras and energy flow is not that important, what matters is our connection and our true intention really to seek that what is our true essence, our real nature... Connect in honor, love and respect with our Divine Source, and through the heart walk that way which resonates the deepest from there... The chakras is just a perception of how all of this unfolds, and a perception that has been much tampered and flawed with in this world, to bring control for the few and fear for the many... That is also my motivation for bringing this up in the first place... To create a true honest debate, and together to look as honest as possible ion how all of this unfolds, so that we may dissolve some of the illusions and lies concerning this area... We need to question everything, even ourselves... Resonating to the deepest level Lots of love to you Last Edited by 141 on 12/29/2012 01:32 PM Truth and Love... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1561325 12/29/2012 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Second layer: Quoting: 141 This is still illusive, yet more subtle in nature... It unfolds through an imbalanced between the solar-plexus (imbalanced ego) and the throat-chakra(control and creativity)... Many being awakened in this level have delusions of grandeur, being this and this powerful entity, or delusions to communicating directly with God and so on... This is reflected by the fake Gods and entities which roam the astral and lower mental areas... Again this is still disharmonic to the bodies of emanation, yet many self-proclaimed 'immortal' souls have obtained a level of power and control from this level of awareness, going around the awakened heart... Third layer This is the first 'real' layer, and it actually involve the pineal gland directly/physically, while the two outer/illusive layers only is rooted in the energybodies surrounding it... To reach this layer, a level of faith in the heart is needed, faith, purity and dedication... That combined with a true intention to listen to our Divine Source Mother and Father, and a urge to act this out in the actual life lived... This way an energetic bridge between the Crown (heart in the crown) and the Heart (crown in the heart) starts to activate, connecting the two, and thus also activating the first true layer of the brow chakra... This will be an activation inside out, which does not involve the astral and mental layers, but rather is an inner process of awakening... Hehe, resonate might be a word my jester would attribute to that. You've appreciated my honesty in the past and well, I've yet to peruse a post from you I did not find both resonant and of discord - so lemme just see where typing out gets me. I am curious how you came to the knowledge of the nature of an awakening in the second layer through an imbalance between the plexus and throat. That's precisely what happened to me shortly before I met someone that cracked my heart wide open. Had I the courage to open my throat sooner, I could have saved myself the pain of a hard lesson to learn. Good thing I'm a fast learner :) So a couple months ago, I find the first soul mate I'm able to form a connection with in this lifetime. This awakened my heart and a few interesting gifts. For one of, the signs are impossible to not take notice and it is an interesting incorporation of the power of my voice and word association/transformation techniques. Funny that I never talked much for the first 32 years of my life for fear that no one would find my thoughts credible or without delusions of grandeur. Now it all just makes perfect fucking sense, pardon mon français. My problem was the first stage of awakening, as you describe, went around my heart. This woman I found was one of my soul mates, but she was so badly abused in her life that all she saw in me was a $ ticket while holding no remorse whatsoever anymore for the emotional pain she inflicts through her actions. My intuition was utterly blinded to her true nature, and all I could see was the good in her when normally I am quite keen on visionary glimpses of others' shadow and working through my own as well. She threatened to have CPS take my daughters away (one of whom I have spoken of having a linked crown with in one of your threads) just to get my attention after I told her I did not want any contact with her anymore (the culminated result of too many unfulfilled promises). Bad line to cross with a father whose world is his daughters' futures. I guess in essence this is a fragment of a story that can serve as a modern-world example of the situations one can find oneself in when the wisdom you write of is not heeded. Not to think too highly of myself for my fortitude, but there truly is good in everything if we are just able to be aware of it. I learned more about the true nature of fulfilling love (last time around as a Virgo maybe - I'm so tired of this cusp on the Libra edge :P) through this delusional love ordeal that started 2.5 months ago than I had in the previous combined 12 years of committed (at least from my end) relationships. I have tools to help connect to whomever I may feel I need to, but have been struggling with the kind of clarity that reaches from the crown and through to the heart that you speak of. I don't know yet if my heart and root have wisened up to the wiles of my wants - time they say is the great healer, but I believe in chemicals, baby =D I know that's a backwards way to look at how we ought to use and develop our chakras, but part of me is always there questioning what possible good could come of striking a path that's already been taken by another one in another time. Truly awesome thread :') I love you, friend, and hope in some way, some day I'll grow to be able to repay the gifts you've shared. A very important teaching I kept faith in that saved me from slipping into a dissociative hole of isolation that's all too familiar and easy to go into: The path to healing for one who feels as though too much has been unjustly taken away is for one to give from the heart when there is no rationale to continue to be generous and every possible inward and outward justification to be selfish. If I may, do one of my things, - I believe our hearts are the source of true selfless intent. Unquestionable sacred intent comes via a balanced crown, and thus I do think you are on to something with a very real link that can be awakened and energized between the two. Mine's still got a bit of healing to take on, but at least in this particular venture I don't feel lost, thanks in part to you =) |
| andreidita User ID: 1550417 12/29/2012 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | great thread brother and very nicely said my abstract mind is joyful when reading such accurate descriptions one the orher hand, to speak from the heart, i feel sadness for all the souls still caught in the illusion and for which any truth like this will be distorted |
| 141 (OP) User ID: 4449580 12/29/2012 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Second layer: Quoting: 141 This is still illusive, yet more subtle in nature... It unfolds through an imbalanced between the solar-plexus (imbalanced ego) and the throat-chakra(control and creativity)... Many being awakened in this level have delusions of grandeur, being this and this powerful entity, or delusions to communicating directly with God and so on... This is reflected by the fake Gods and entities which roam the astral and lower mental areas... Again this is still disharmonic to the bodies of emanation, yet many self-proclaimed 'immortal' souls have obtained a level of power and control from this level of awareness, going around the awakened heart... Third layer This is the first 'real' layer, and it actually involve the pineal gland directly/physically, while the two outer/illusive layers only is rooted in the energybodies surrounding it... To reach this layer, a level of faith in the heart is needed, faith, purity and dedication... That combined with a true intention to listen to our Divine Source Mother and Father, and a urge to act this out in the actual life lived... This way an energetic bridge between the Crown (heart in the crown) and the Heart (crown in the heart) starts to activate, connecting the two, and thus also activating the first true layer of the brow chakra... This will be an activation inside out, which does not involve the astral and mental layers, but rather is an inner process of awakening... Hehe, resonate might be a word my jester would attribute to that. You've appreciated my honesty in the past and well, I've yet to peruse a post from you I did not find both resonant and of discord - so lemme just see where typing out gets me. I am curious how you came to the knowledge of the nature of an awakening in the second layer through an imbalance between the plexus and throat. That's precisely what happened to me shortly before I met someone that cracked my heart wide open. Had I the courage to open my throat sooner, I could have saved myself the pain of a hard lesson to learn. Good thing I'm a fast learner :) So a couple months ago, I find the first soul mate I'm able to form a connection with in this lifetime. This awakened my heart and a few interesting gifts. For one of, the signs are impossible to not take notice and it is an interesting incorporation of the power of my voice and word association/transformation techniques. Funny that I never talked much for the first 32 years of my life for fear that no one would find my thoughts credible or without delusions of grandeur. Now it all just makes perfect fucking sense, pardon mon français. My problem was the first stage of awakening, as you describe, went around my heart. This woman I found was one of my soul mates, but she was so badly abused in her life that all she saw in me was a $ ticket while holding no remorse whatsoever anymore for the emotional pain she inflicts through her actions. My intuition was utterly blinded to her true nature, and all I could see was the good in her when normally I am quite keen on visionary glimpses of others' shadow and working through my own as well. She threatened to have CPS take my daughters away (one of whom I have spoken of having a linked crown with in one of your threads) just to get my attention after I told her I did not want any contact with her anymore (the culminated result of too many unfulfilled promises). Bad line to cross with a father whose world is his daughters' futures. I guess in essence this is a fragment of a story that can serve as a modern-world example of the situations one can find oneself in when the wisdom you write of is not heeded. Not to think too highly of myself for my fortitude, but there truly is good in everything if we are just able to be aware of it. I learned more about the true nature of fulfilling love (last time around as a Virgo maybe - I'm so tired of this cusp on the Libra edge :P) through this delusional love ordeal that started 2.5 months ago than I had in the previous combined 12 years of committed (at least from my end) relationships. I have tools to help connect to whomever I may feel I need to, but have been struggling with the kind of clarity that reaches from the crown and through to the heart that you speak of. I don't know yet if my heart and root have wisened up to the wiles of my wants - time they say is the great healer, but I believe in chemicals, baby =D I know that's a backwards way to look at how we ought to use and develop our chakras, but part of me is always there questioning what possible good could come of striking a path that's already been taken by another one in another time. Truly awesome thread :') I love you, friend, and hope in some way, some day I'll grow to be able to repay the gifts you've shared. A very important teaching I kept faith in that saved me from slipping into a dissociative hole of isolation that's all too familiar and easy to go into: The path to healing for one who feels as though too much has been unjustly taken away is for one to give from the heart when there is no rationale to continue to be generous and every possible inward and outward justification to be selfish. If I may, do one of my things, - I believe our hearts are the source of true selfless intent. Unquestionable sacred intent comes via a balanced crown, and thus I do think you are on to something with a very real link that can be awakened and energized between the two. Mine's still got a bit of healing to take on, but at least in this particular venture I don't feel lost, thanks in part to you =) I love you too my friend Thanks for this sharing, by opening your heart this way, you have already helped many, bc we need to see that none of us are perfect or invulnerable... We find our own true way, by questioning everything, even ourselves, and only to keep what resonates the deepest... That's why I am also happy that some of what I share with you here are of discord, bc then I know that you question and ponder... And that is truly the only way to grow and to learn... My source of information, well I would call it inner ponderings, in many ways I have never been so connected to this world, but that is starting to change, especially after I began to share... For example, your question yesterday... Until then I'd never thought about the pineal gland/third eye... I knew it existed, but it was really nothing I really thought about... The reading your question, led me to visualize the brain, and then I saw the 3 layers and all the info was given to me... I thank my Divine Mother and Father for the information I may share here, and am only happy to get feedback, bc in order to be a true and honest channel, I also need to question myself... That also gave me a clear image of the two outer levels, where the heart was kinda bypassed, yet still leading to spiritual 'insights', but of a more deceptive nature... Where stuff such as personal gain and control can be included... Qualities that would never harmonize with the awakened heart... The throat chakra also holds many levels, and the connection between the throat and the solar-plexus, can be made true, by opening the heart truly, so that this willingness to sacrifice, and to walk that path no matter the circumstances are awakened... That will dissolve the veil, which keeps us in the shadows, the veil that lies between the illusions of this reality and the inner truth... As I see the heart, it has 7 layers of true awakening, and already in the surface ones you start to make true connections between the different energyfields, bc the heart knows and understands that there are really just One Life and One Energy, flowing from and through all, and that adds reality to it all... Also important to remember that the ideas of grandeur may be a trap, yet there may also be some truth to them... In a sense that realities from your innermost true nature will be used against you, through the ego, in an imbalanced way, so that you later on may have a harder time embracing the very same truth, just now on the innerside... If that makes sense lol Lots of love to you, my friend Truth and Love... |
| 141 (OP) User ID: 4449580 12/29/2012 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | great thread brother Quoting: andreidita and very nicely said my abstract mind is joyful when reading such accurate descriptions one the orher hand, to speak from the heart, i feel sadness for all the souls still caught in the illusion and for which any truth like this will be distorted Hello my loved brother, happy to see you Glad that you liked the thread, even I usually make like a poetry-gateway to the energy, I feel sometimes a more accurate description is in order... And yes, i too feel sadness for those so caught up in illusion, that they have no clue of the mask they wear... Was just pondering today how to reach them... I guess they will benefit mostly from meeting with persons who are able to show them steps, and to learn them to trust and to have faith in themselves... Truth and Love... |
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| 141 (OP) User ID: 4449580 12/29/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you used tools to aide Chakras energy flow. For example: stone, bilateral music or flower elixirs? Quoting: Terrebonne No not really, most inner ponderings, reflections and letting go of blockages... Also listening at my best ability to the tune of our One Source Lots of love to you Truth and Love... |