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# Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number

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12/29/2012 12:49 AM
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Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
Take this simple equation: 5 - 10 = -5

WTF is a -5 ?

Math is fundamentally based on counting.

For the above equation we can say, you have five apples and you take away 10 apples. This is invalid because you create additional five apples that are nonexistent.

The Arabs got it all wrong!
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12/29/2012 12:52 AM
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suppose you take 5 steps forward, then take 10 steps backwards.

how many steps forward of your starting position are you?
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12/29/2012 12:56 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
Take this simple equation: 5 - 10 = -5

WTF is a -5 ?

Math is fundamentally based on counting.

For the above equation we can say, you have five apples and you take away 10 apples. This is invalid because you create additional five apples that are nonexistent.

The Arabs got it all wrong!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31047157

More appropriately, we can say that your initial I.Q. score was 5, but a retest proved your actual I.Q. score to be 10 points lower than original assessed. As such, your ignorance is a drain on society.
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12/29/2012 12:57 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
But you are counting steps and not physical, observable objects. Steps don't exist.
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12/29/2012 01:02 AM
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But you are counting steps and not physical, observable objects. Steps don't exist.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31047157

who decided that mathematics must be limited to counting physical observable objects? many people use mathematics for things that aren't physical or aren't observable.

if steps don't exist, how do you walk around?
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12/29/2012 01:05 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
But you are counting steps and not physical, observable objects. Steps don't exist.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31047157

who decided that mathematics must be limited to counting physical observable objects? many people use mathematics for things that aren't physical or aren't observable.

if steps don't exist, how do you walk around?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29757648

That's my point, since math is allowing people to create things that don't exist, it is flawed.

Money is allowed to be created that does not exist for instance.

Who knows what in the universe is being regarded as truth where it might not exist.

I know my post sounds dumb, but if people think about it, math should really be based on observable things and not fantasies.
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12/29/2012 01:05 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
I owe you 5 bucks, I pay you back with a 10 because I do not have change. Now you owe me 5 bucks. 5-10 = -5

Next question for the 3rd grader?
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12/29/2012 01:08 AM
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I owe you 5 bucks, I pay you back with a 10 because I do not have change. Now you owe me 5 bucks. 5-10 = -5

Next question for the 3rd grader?
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If you give me \$10 and I owe you \$5, that is 10 - 5 = 5 not the other way around.
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12/29/2012 01:09 AM
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The word of every mathematician of any stripe in recent history,

or,

the word of a tard on GLP.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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12/29/2012 01:15 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
The word of every mathematician of any stripe in recent history,

or,

the word of a tard on GLP.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549

To whom do I report my findings to correct the error in mathematics?

In all seriousness though, look at what I said above for the reason, and also, nobody proved me wrong...

I'm not a retard because I'm giving a detailed explanation for my reasoning.
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12/29/2012 01:17 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
OP, what about imaginary and irrational numbers ?
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12/29/2012 01:17 AM
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Negatives are the problem you have with mathematics?
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12/29/2012 01:20 AM
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The word of every mathematician of any stripe in recent history,

or,

the word of a tard on GLP.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549

To whom do I report my findings to correct the error in mathematics?

In all seriousness though, look at what I said above for the reason, and also, nobody proved me wrong...

I'm not a retard because I'm giving a detailed explanation for my reasoning.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31047157

Fuck it, go down to your local high school and try to explain this fundamental error to the staff Algebra teacher, brah.

Report back and let us know how it went.
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12/29/2012 01:21 AM
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The word of every mathematician of any stripe in recent history,

or,

the word of a tard on GLP.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549

I like athiests who don't believe in God myself. I like when they go balance their checkbooks using an imaginary concept known as zero.

Even better are mathematicians who have to use the same nothing to do something all day.

These same people will tell you to go get a job, because money doesn't grow on trees.
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12/29/2012 01:24 AM
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In chemistry there are positively and negatively charged particles. Electrons are negative. OP is a moran.
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12/29/2012 01:25 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
The word of every mathematician of any stripe in recent history,

or,

the word of a tard on GLP.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549

To whom do I report my findings to correct the error in mathematics?

In all seriousness though, look at what I said above for the reason, and also, nobody proved me wrong...

I'm not a retard because I'm giving a detailed explanation for my reasoning.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31047157

Fuck it, go down to your local high school and try to explain this fundamental error to the staff Algebra teacher, brah.

Report back and let us know how it went.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549

Imagine yourself standing in one spot.

Now imagine you take five steps forward. Call it +5.

Now you need to do the opposite, -5.

Do you turn around and take five steps forward to do the OPPOSITE of +5, leaving you facing an entirely different direction, or do you BACK UP FIVE STEPS. Negating what you just did.

Tell me which one the Algebra teacher says is -5.
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12/29/2012 01:26 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
In chemistry there are positively and negatively charged particles. Electrons are negative. OP is a moran.
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Are you positive?
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2012 01:26 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
The word of every mathematician of any stripe in recent history,

or,

the word of a tard on GLP.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549

I like athiests who don't believe in God myself. I like when they go balance their checkbooks using an imaginary concept known as zero.

Even better are mathematicians who have to use the same nothing to do something all day.

These same people will tell you to go get a job, because money doesn't grow on trees.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31056540

U mad because you suck at math?

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12/29/2012 01:30 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
The word of every mathematician of any stripe in recent history,

or,

the word of a tard on GLP.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549

I like athiests who don't believe in God myself. I like when they go balance their checkbooks using an imaginary concept known as zero.

Even better are mathematicians who have to use the same nothing to do something all day.

These same people will tell you to go get a job, because money doesn't grow on trees.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31056540

U mad because you suck at math?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549

I dunno, but Einstein is pissed, cuz I'm better than he was at it.
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2012 01:32 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
The word of every mathematician of any stripe in recent history,

or,

the word of a tard on GLP.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549

I like athiests who don't believe in God myself. I like when they go balance their checkbooks using an imaginary concept known as zero.

Even better are mathematicians who have to use the same nothing to do something all day.

These same people will tell you to go get a job, because money doesn't grow on trees.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31056540

U mad because you suck at math?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549

I dunno, but Einstein is pissed, cuz I'm better than he was at it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31056540

K, man, well I'm sure they'll start rewriting the textbooks any day now. What are you waiting for? The entire academic community of mathematicians must be made aware of this grave mistake in their thinking!
acegotflows

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12/29/2012 01:34 AM
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there is no such thing as a useless fact either, but some people argue that useless means without use and ignore the fact that it is a compound word that literally means less function.

Basically all I'm saying is that NOTHING makes sense if you think about it...
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12/29/2012 01:34 AM

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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
Take this simple equation: 5 - 10 = -5

WTF is a -5 ?

Math is fundamentally based on counting.

For the above equation we can say, you have five apples and you take away 10 apples. This is invalid because you create additional five apples that are nonexistent.

The Arabs got it all wrong!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31047157

'Math' is an imaginary activity that takes place inside the conceptual world, the fact is that your whole life takes place inside your mind.

It is a world with it's own rules and (non spatial) dimensions and exists whether the physical world exists or not.

It can be used to model certain aspect of the physical world, such as the presence or absence of apples, how fast they fall under gravity etc. But it is always entirely separate from the physical world - an image of an apple in your mind is not and never will be a physical apple.
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12/29/2012 01:39 AM
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...

I like athiests who don't believe in God myself. I like when they go balance their checkbooks using an imaginary concept known as zero.

Even better are mathematicians who have to use the same nothing to do something all day.

These same people will tell you to go get a job, because money doesn't grow on trees.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31056540

U mad because you suck at math?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549

I dunno, but Einstein is pissed, cuz I'm better than he was at it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31056540

K, man, well I'm sure they'll start rewriting the textbooks any day now. What are you waiting for? The entire academic community of mathematicians must be made aware of this grave mistake in their thinking!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549

You mean you think the textbook gods with their eons of wisdom will choose a lowly AC over their beloved patent clerk?

And I thought Tesla was a lost cause.

Don't even get me started about algebra. It's just a cross-dressing zero.
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12/29/2012 01:41 AM
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I owe you 5 bucks, I pay you back with a 10 because I do not have change. Now you owe me 5 bucks. 5-10 = -5

Next question for the 3rd grader?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30980093

If you give me \$10 and I owe you \$5, that is 10 - 5 = 5 not the other way around.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31047157

From YOUR perspective perhaps, because YOU now have an extra five dollars. From the perspective of the person who paid you with a \$10, he is now out five dollars or -5.
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2012 01:47 AM
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That's my point, since math is allowing people to create things that don't exist, it is flawed.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31047157

Carpentry allows people to create things that don't exist. Is carpentry flawed too? Carpentry often involves some mathematics.
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2012 01:54 AM
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op is right

i teach ab and bc calculus

and carpenters make "something" from nothing?

No- they use:

wood
glue
nails
tools
elbow grease
and dozens of other THINGS to make SOMETHING NEW

Spouse makes movies

They exist AFTER the assembly of images and sound captured

ok to disagree with OP and me

but why the tard and moran names?

learn to disagree with respect YOU expect from others

otherwise you LITERALLY have bad karma

and I am Hindu
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2012 01:54 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
That's my point, since math is allowing people to create things that don't exist, it is flawed.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31047157

Carpentry allows people to create things that don't exist. Is carpentry flawed too? Carpentry often involves some mathematics.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29757648

In carpentry, when you're out of wood, you're out of wood.

But with the magical zero, all banking systems can just grow their cabinets and tables larger and larger until you can't even afford a toothpick and you get that cavity that abscesses and goes straight to yer fucking brain.
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2012 01:55 AM
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op is right

i teach ab and bc calculus
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Of course you do.
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2012 01:57 AM
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Re: Mathematics is flawed, no such thing as real negative number
That's my point, since math is allowing people to create things that don't exist, it is flawed.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31047157

Carpentry allows people to create things that don't exist. Is carpentry flawed too? Carpentry often involves some mathematics.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29757648

In carpentry, when you're out of wood, you're out of wood.

But with the magical zero, all banking systems can just grow their cabinets and tables larger and larger until you can't even afford a toothpick and you get that cavity that abscesses and goes straight to yer fucking brain.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31056540

Dude, you don't even know how banking works.

You don't know how any sort of math works, at all.

You're basically a drooly tard who should be BANED from the internet for the rest of your days.