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'It opens your heart': Canada approves use of ecstasy in study into post-traumatic stress disorder

 
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Oh, now it is medicinal. Just another pharmaceutical drug to make money on
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MDMA is safer then the majority of crap the big pharma puts out.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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Oh, now it is medicinal. Just another pharmaceutical drug to make money on
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MDMA is safer then the majority of crap the big pharma puts out.
 Quoting: Dapurps


The "arguments" people use.
 Quoting: TruthMinion


If you do it once a month and its pure un-cut and a safe dosage nothing bad would happen. Were talking on a therapeutically level here. Anything not done in moderation is bad.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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MDMA is safer then the majority of crap the big pharma puts out.
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The "arguments" people use.
 Quoting: TruthMinion


If you do it once a month and its pure un-cut and a safe dosage nothing bad would happen. Were talking on a therapeutically level here. Anything not done in moderation is bad.
 Quoting: Dapurps


I was talking about the other poster.
 Quoting: TruthMinion


Oh aha peace
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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MDMA helps heal
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In the Journal of Psychopharmacology, they reported that more than 83% of several PTSD patients treated with MDMA and therapy had completely recovered, “without evidence of harm.” A follow-up study published last month found that the patients still had virtually no symptoms two years later.

Smiley
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Ihave PTSD, and I would give anything if I could heal. I have never taken MDMA; but if I could recover from these attacks, I would take it if given to me by my doc.

How wonderful to be able to help people like myself. I saw someone commit suicide, and I relive this scene over and over again.:yhg:
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Oh, now it is medicinal. Just another pharmaceutical drug to make money on
 Quoting: MONSTER


MDMA is safer then the majority of crap the big pharma puts out.
 Quoting: Dapurps


The "arguments" people use.
 Quoting: TruthMinion


If you do it once a month and its pure un-cut and a safe dosage nothing bad would happen. Were talking on a therapeutically level here. Anything not done in moderation is bad.
 Quoting: Dapurps


I'd be open to try it, especially if I were haunted by PTSD and had a person who gave a damn spotting me.

Still, you can't trust a synthetic which still is pharma sad to say.
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MDMA helps heal
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In the Journal of Psychopharmacology, they reported that more than 83% of several PTSD patients treated with MDMA and therapy had completely recovered, “without evidence of harm.” A follow-up study published last month found that the patients still had virtually no symptoms two years later.

Smiley
 Quoting: smilesun


Ihave PTSD, and I would give anything if I could heal. I have never taken MDMA; but if I could recover from these attacks, I would take it if given to me by my doc.

How wonderful to be able to help people like myself. I saw someone commit suicide, and I relive this scene over and over again.:yhg:
 Quoting: Krystal


Gruesome experience, I'm so very sorry :( .

Wondering if uncut MDMA can be prescribed by psychiatrists (MD) here in the states. It was being used in casual non medical psychologists 20 years ago..I know because I enquired about it them.
There must be some setting where you can receive some one would think.
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In the Journal of Psychopharmacology, they reported that more than 83% of several PTSD patients treated with MDMA and therapy had completely recovered, “without evidence of harm.” A follow-up study published last month found that the patients still had virtually no symptoms two years later.

Smiley
 Quoting: smilesun


I remember MDMA being used in therapy in 1986. I've not experienced it myself, have had other types of non chemical mind expansion,
but what about findings of holes in the brain developing early on in use.
Were MDMA a natural product of earth's pharma I'd be more inclined to be more willing to try it.
But it is a synthetic created in a lab and that for sure I don't trust.
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Holes in the brain...? None of that is true. MDMA can be very affective when put to therapuetic use. As wih all things in life you never want to abuse it. :)

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Good for them. This is only a begining though.
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People got to realize its not the drug itself that would help PTSD. Its the combination of a therapist plus MDMA that allows you to be more open and confident in getting past your demons. It would not be used as a daily medication.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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HAS ANYBODY GOT ANY VERAS?

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In the Journal of Psychopharmacology, they reported that more than 83% of several PTSD patients treated with MDMA and therapy had completely recovered, “without evidence of harm.” A follow-up study published last month found that the patients still had virtually no symptoms two years later.

Smiley
 Quoting: smilesun


I remember MDMA being used in therapy in 1986. I've not experienced it myself, have had other types of non chemical mind expansion,
but what about findings of holes in the brain developing early on in use.
Were MDMA a natural product of earth's pharma I'd be more inclined to be more willing to try it.
But it is a synthetic created in a lab and that for sure I don't trust.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213681


Holes in the brain...? None of that is true. MDMA can be very affective when put to therapuetic use. As wih all things in life you never want to abuse it. :)

hfyodahf
 Quoting: I Am Satya Yuga 18485437


Here again, no offense. Absence of enough info as with all pharma. It's not enough to say holes in the brain only occur with excess use as you're implying.
Under what conditions do people 'overheat' and require sips of water, why is that in a scientifically explored sense.
A person can't say it's because of being cut with speed if they really don't know.
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IIRC, the 'Holes in the brain' drug legend refers to NAN toxicity and thus Olney's lesions which can happen easily when MDMA is foolishly mixed with other Serotonergic drugs.

Large doses of DXM alone can cause lesions in rats with no other compounded drug.

I am of the opinion that large enough doses of DXM along with a CYP450 inhibitor (like anti-histamine found in combination with DXM in Coricidin) can result in the DXM -> DXO pathway being drastically slowed down, and thus vast quantities of unmetabolized DXM coursing around for days.

I personally know three different individuals who suffer from a range of sporadic to weekly non-epileptic parietal and grand-mall seizures that started within a year after a 48+ hour Coricidin trip.
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Replace 'NAN toxicity' with 'NMDA Antagonist Neurotoxicity' or just NAN for short :)
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hf
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Smiley
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In the Journal of Psychopharmacology, they reported that more than 83% of several PTSD patients treated with MDMA and therapy had completely recovered, “without evidence of harm.” A follow-up study published last month found that the patients still had virtually no symptoms two years later.

Smiley
 Quoting: smilesun


Ihave PTSD, and I would give anything if I could heal. I have never taken MDMA; but if I could recover from these attacks, I would take it if given to me by my doc.

How wonderful to be able to help people like myself. I saw someone commit suicide, and I relive this scene over and over again.:yhg:
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I hope for your healing I could give you a smile Smiley
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Good for them. This is only a begining though.
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Yes.
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Excellent.

Healing is on it's way.
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Excellent.

Healing is on it's way.
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Sure. Smiley
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Who do I have to hang around to get the disorder?
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Who do I have to hang around to get the disorder?
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The army or anything traumatic. Get raped, say someone shot at you or tried to kill you.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

:ftwpanda:

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I personally know three different individuals who suffer from a range of sporadic to weekly non-epileptic parietal and grand-mall seizures that started within a year after a 48+ hour Coricidin trip.
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Here I was envious right up till the last few words. lol
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MDMA
LSD
THC
DMT
Psilocybin


use them.
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Who do I have to hang around to get the disorder?
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The army or anything traumatic. Get raped, say someone shot at you or tried to kill you.
 Quoting: Dapurps

I'm attracted to all women that have tits and are still breathing, is that within the limits of 'normal'?

It used to bother me, now I just hope they are a good aim.

Why can't I grow it as a plant at home, surely the Amazon has the root plant still available in raw form, just need to know what ones for each specific person and the unique combination of ailments.

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"Good Karma" I.O.U.
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MDMA
LSD
THC
DMT
Psilocybin


use them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25933105

I suppose if you want to be in that dimension you might as well be controlling it at the same time.

They should be available at at any reservation in North America for a day pass to the Smoke-house.

Stop short of being hung up by the tits or hook in the back.

More like a barber chair hooked up to some VR controls or bring your own F-1 cockpit and plug into the high-performance hydraulics.

Last Edited by MHz on 12/29/2012 03:56 PM
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"Good Karma" I.O.U.
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Smiley
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Who do I have to hang around to get the disorder?
 Quoting: MHz


The army or anything traumatic. Get raped, say someone shot at you or tried to kill you.
 Quoting: Dapurps

I'm attracted to all women that have tits and are still breathing, is that within the limits of 'normal'?

It used to bother me, now I just hope they are a good aim.

Why can't I grow it as a plant at home, surely the Amazon has the root plant still available in raw form, just need to know what ones for each specific person and the unique combination of ailments.
 Quoting: MHz


Nothing is normal nowadays aha

and from my experience good MDMA is a bitch to make. E is easy though.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

:ftwpanda:

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Yeah, the quality went to shit once the CIA quit making it themselves.
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In the Journal of Psychopharmacology, they reported that more than 83% of several PTSD patients treated with MDMA and therapy had completely recovered, “without evidence of harm.” A follow-up study published last month found that the patients still had virtually no symptoms two years later.

Smiley
 Quoting: smilesun


I remember MDMA being used in therapy in 1986. I've not experienced it myself, have had other types of non chemical mind expansion,
but what about findings of holes in the brain developing early on in use.
Were MDMA a natural product of earth's pharma I'd be more inclined to be more willing to try it.
But it is a synthetic created in a lab and that for sure I don't trust.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213681


Holes in the brain. Sounds like Anti-drug propaganda. Reefer Madness led people to believe that smoking pot would cause a person to go on a rampage, raping and killing everything in sight.
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IIRC, the 'Holes in the brain' drug legend refers to NAN toxicity and thus Olney's lesions which can happen easily when MDMA is foolishly mixed with other Serotonergic drugs.

Large doses of DXM alone can cause lesions in rats with no other compounded drug.

I am of the opinion that large enough doses of DXM along with a CYP450 inhibitor (like anti-histamine found in combination with DXM in Coricidin) can result in the DXM -> DXO pathway being drastically slowed down, and thus vast quantities of unmetabolized DXM coursing around for days.

I personally know three different individuals who suffer from a range of sporadic to weekly non-epileptic parietal and grand-mall seizures that started within a year after a 48+ hour Coricidin trip.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1561325


DXM is not harmful. But if someone decides to be an idiot and take Coricidin Cough and Cold, they are not just ingesting DXM. Chlorpheniramine Maleate is the harmful ingredient. A little research shows that.

Who do I have to hang around to get the disorder?
 Quoting: MHz


The army or anything traumatic. Get raped, say someone shot at you or tried to kill you.
 Quoting: Dapurps

I'm attracted to all women that have tits and are still breathing, is that within the limits of 'normal'?

It used to bother me, now I just hope they are a good aim.

Why can't I grow it as a plant at home, surely the Amazon has the root plant still available in raw form, just need to know what ones for each specific person and the unique combination of ailments.
 Quoting: MHz


Nothing is normal nowadays aha

and from my experience good MDMA is a bitch to make. E is easy though.
 Quoting: Dapurps


What are you talking about? MDMA is E.




In my opinion MDMA is no drug to be trifled with. It can cause all sorts of problems and potentially ruin lives. In a carefully controlled environment though, such as with a therapist, it could be helpful. But it is too easy to be irresponsible with such a potent drug. Too many people are ignorant about a lot of things, which is why it can be so dangerous. When people on ecstasy start jumping around or dancing or whatever, increasing heart rate and body heat, they can die. So people try avert that risk by drinking massive amounts of water, but this can also cause death. People don't realize you also have to replenish the salts in your body, not just water.Erowid is a great source of info for all drugs. There is also the hard crash and depression that follows after taking ecstasy. 5-htp can help a person rebound much faster. It can also be taken days prior to help make the ecstasy experience more power. Erowid is a great source of info for pretty much all drugs, especially psychedelics. It is the best site in my opinion.

Once again, always research a drug extensively before you decide to try it, especially when it's a methamphetamine. That's right, let's not forget MDMA is a methamphetamine. Be responsible and safe.

Here's a good documentary about ecstasy
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