stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?

Did you know what Israel looked like before it became a nation again? Do you know what it looks like now?

For tourists and grand, million-dollar vactions:

Bobby Valentino "Pink City Boogie"
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.ynetnews.com]

and:
[link to www.schundler.com]
And
[link to www.hotels-of-israel.com]
And:
Tel Aviv:
[link to www.hotels-of-israel.com]
The Daniel Dead Sea Hotel:
[link to media.expedia.com]
Or:
[link to www.inisrael.com]
And:
King David:
[link to www.hotels-of-israel.com]

1. I'm not a moron or an idiot
2. I don't stand under their 'rule" of influence
3. I am asking for as many reasons as possible about the perceived or real importance of that place.


So getting past the OBVIOUS, what else is there. Why is this such a hard question? Stripping away the things that we mostly know about regarding it, WHAT ELSE IS THERE. When something is made to be an important prominent figure of discussion in Religion as well as politics and media, there has to be UNDERLYING reasons of it that are not taken as commonplace.

GLP has a wealth of knowledge and informative posters and readers. I'm just trying to get a better picture besides the stuff that is always thrown in our face. You know, thinking deeper.

I'm not trying to refute or confirm anything as this is not about my personal beliefs or such. I simply want to know what others have to share on the topic.

This is not agenda based... You know there are people who really just want to know for the purpose of learning...

Most Hollywood movies are just themed interpretations of metaphysical cycles, forces and experiences.

Reality is built on symbolism, hence it must be distorted symbolically. Our collective has been distorted to the point where it represents a perfect reflection of our original state, the original truth... so many major themes today represent a 'perfectly distorted' version of truth... ie. Earth's people is 'God's people' in truth... the distorted truth is Israeli jews are God's people exclusively. Going further, all spiritual energy flows into Israel... politically, financially, energetically.

truth ain't your bag is it?

cool. Thanks for sharing.

Diamonds, cell phone and other advanced technology, medical field that is some if not the best in the world.

Do you know the truth? Did you know it had not rained in over a thousand years before it was a nation again and nothing grew there? Did you know that since 1948, it has thrived again with produce and fruits? Did you know any of this?

so is this technology coming from the people there? Is there some kind of vortex energy that makes people smarter there? Is there hidden archeology and books that people know about but don't share with outsiders? I'm really trying to get outside the common box of why things are perceived as important and what all of those things are hiding in plain sight, if anything.

I'm sure somebody has stuff on this that isn't so common knowledge. I'm trying to get as many perspectives as I can, and GLP has a wide variety of visitors daily...

Well I would tell you but then i guess that would go back to religion and you don't want to hear anything about that.

Though they dont have any diamond mines there

It has something to do with the location and some type of energy portal.... I cannot remember where I read this online, but it did make sense to me.

Basically all the religious bs and everything else is a coverup for the real reason. Sorry I cannot help more, but I really cannot find the website that most of the info was on that I read this from..

Without Isis Ra El oil would be cheap and plentiful as water.

No but they cut the diamonds into jewelry

Israel owes its preservation and exaltation to honour and glory to the Lord its God alone. - Ezekiel 16:6. Then I passed by thee, and saw thee stamping in thy blood, and said to thee, In thy blood live! and said to thee, In thy blood live! Ezekiel 16:7. I made thee into myriads as the growth of the field, and thou grewest and becamest tall, and camest to ornament of cheeks. The breasts expanded, and thy hair grew, whereas thou wast naked and bare. Ezekiel 16:8. And I passed by thee, and saw thee, and, behold, it was thy time, the time of love; and I spread my wing over thee, and covered thy nakedness; and I swore to thee, and entered into covenant with thee, is the saying of the Lord Jehovah, and thou becamest mine. Ezekiel 16:9. And I bathed thee in water, and rinsed thy blood from thee, and anointed thee with oil. Ezekiel 16:10. And I clothed thee with embroidered work, and shod thee with morocco, and wrapped thee round with byssus, and covered thee with silk. Ezekiel 16:11. I adorned thee with ornaments, and put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain around thy neck. Ezekiel 16:12. And I gave thee a ring in thy nose, and earrings in thine ears, and a splendid crown upon thy head. Ezekiel 16:13. And thou didst adorn thyself with gold and silver; and thy clothing was byssus, and silk, and embroidery. Wheaten-flour, and honey, and oil thou didst eat; and thou wast very beautiful; and didst thrive to regal dignity. Ezekiel 16:14. Thy name went forth among the nations on account of thy beauty; for it was perfect through my glory, which I put upon thee, is the saying of the Lord Jehovah. - The description of what the Lord did for Israel in His compassionate love is divided into two sections by the repetition of the phrase "I passed by thee" (Ezekiel 16:6 and Ezekiel 16:8). The first embraces what God had done for the preservation and increase of the nation; the second, what He had done for the glorification of Israel, by adopting it as the people of His possession. When Israel was lying in the field as a neglected new-born child, the Lord passed by and adopted it, promising it life, and giving it strength to live. To bring out the magnitude of the compassion of God, the fact that the child was lying in its blood is mentioned again and again

yes they have a big diamond industry

I bet it's hard to post a link from the made up bs in your head

Yeah we could've settled this a while back but op doesn't want anything like this.

over half our "Foreign Aid" goes to Israel

plus:

“TAPI Pipeline - The REAL REASON for 4 MORE YEARS of WAR
December 18, 2010 - TAPI Gas Pipeline Deal Signed“:
. . . to build and secure a 1,080-mile long gas pipeline designed to carry trillions of dollars of ISRAELI-OWNED GAS from Turkmenistan to Pakistan and India, for which our boys must die: [link to www.bollyn.com]

“Sam Francis' columns on Town Hall“:
[link to www.vdare.com]

See Jew Murder USA Military Boys(USS LIBERTY):
[link to www.gtr5.com]

What concrete concepts about that region do we not know about as much?

You know the whole, everything that happens in religion can be explained without the crutch of it.

Example- the anointed one being a pagan concept coming from Egypt. But I'm sure it had legs before that.

I'm versed in the religious Holy Bible aspect. My grandmother and mother were ministers. The Bible and Strong's concordance were my required reading daily. I grew up going to church 6 days a week. I've had some experiences in my life that were similar to some bible stories. My name is one of the Old Testament history books. I cringe when people say that my name was that of a prophet as it was one of the historical texts.

But if you all would like to go to your comfort zones of explaining things with religion then by all means do so.

I was trying to have a conversation outside of the parameters of our comfort crutches. But if that is what has to happen to share information, then so be it ...

Nothing to do with religion - it's traditional divide and rule. Israel is a massive thorn which we (the West) have planted in the Middle East's side to prevent it getting its shit together and uniting. Without Israel, Persia (Iran) would rise again and become a world superpower - it has loads of oil and gas and other resources.

Look to history. Our civilization has been fighting the Persians since before Alexander the Great. We're still doing it. Since the Brits pulled out after WW2, Israel has been the Western foothold in the Middle East, like the Crusader Outremer states in the Middle Ages. It fucks up all chances for peace, prosperity, and unification in the region, and guarantees stress, poverty, and suffering.

That's what it's for

thanks for sharing.

What purpose do you think keeping the division serves? Do you think it has to do with a deity worship or perhaps something like balancing the energies from different dimensions or such?

I really don't know I'm grasping at straws trying to understand the importance of this place without the context of religion- as it is used to muck up history.

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JACOBS WRESTLING MATCH

Did you ever see the old Biblical story of Jacob wrestling with the man.? The man puts Jacobs thigh out and when he does, Jacobs name is changed from Jacob to Israel.

Breaking the code reveals a pretty neat truth.

Jacob wrestling with a man is you and me wrestling with ourselves. You know the inner struggles we have. When Jacobs thigh is put out it means desire to control the issue is gone. The thigh is a symbol of desire (for obvious reasons). Now we submit to divine mind.



As soon as Jacob no longer is in control, divine mind rules. His name is changed from Jacob to Israel. What is Israel ? No it's not a country.

IS is Isis. The feminine principle. Spirit

RA is Ra. The light, masculine, Mind

EL is God. The supreme universal light.



Thus by allowing his own desires to be broken. Jacob is now Israel. Is-Spirit and Ra-Mind come together and produce El. God within.



And you know the great part of this? In Genesis 32.30 Jacob says. " I have seen God face to face and I shall call this place Peniel". The Pineal Gland of the brain. The single eye. The receptor of light. The fire of meditation. The true pathway to IS RA EL.

Now isn't that neat ?

(excerpt from Hidden Meanings)

Your playing games...

Isa 42:18 Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see.

Just power politics IMHO - but also worldview and philosophy. The West is traditionally pro-individual at any cost, ever since ancient Greece; Persia is traditionally centralized and top-down oppressive, more monarchic. Less so now, but still Us v Them is a big issue. We think very differently.

TPTB view it quite simply imho: Persia has to be kept from uniting in order to preserve the West's global hegemony and access to the Middle East's resources. That's why we spend so much time fostering fundamentalists in the region and creating fertile ground for breeding terrorists. If we gave every person in the Middle East color TVs and more food than they need, it'd cost us less than all our military war efforts and we'd probably see peace breaking out in short order.

But we don't want that. We want them fighting among themselves and scrabbling around for food. Certainly don't want them sorting their shit out and standing on their own two feet - too much competition. TPTB learned from history; Persia and then the Caliphate were technologically far more advanced civilizations than us for millennia - TPTB don't want that happening again. ;-)

believe it or not, I already knew that. That's my problem in addressing this topic. I'm quite familiar with religious context and such.

Perhaps I'm not asking the correct questions...

"A Jew is one INWARDLY" says the bible, Is Ra El are just symbols of one who seeks within and manifests the christ mind.


the outer literal jew and the outer literal Israel are all false, the bible is a spiritual book, not a book of literalism.


[link to thehiddenlighthouse.blogspot.com]






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THE BIBLE AS SYMBOL


Our first order of business in this quest is to see if we can justify considering the Bible as symbolic rather then literal. We must use the Bible itself.


1.2Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. So here is the Bible itself telling us not to take it literally.


2. Galatians 4:24 Which things are an allegory: the definition of a myth includes the term allegory. Here again the Bible tells us it is symbolic.


3. Matthew 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: The Bible is saying that all of Jesus statements were symbolic.


4. Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:


5. Psalm 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old: Here the Bible states that GOD speaks in parables . And what are dark sayings of old. Obviously they are symbolic statements.


6. In the Book of Proverbs describes wisdom. It explains how one becomes wise. Proverbs 1:6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings. Dark sayings is mytholoy


7. And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 2 cor.4:3


8. But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. 2 cor. 3:14


9. We should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter." (Romans 7:6)


10. Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! they say of me, Doth he not speak in parables? EZ:20 Here God speaks in parables


11. 1Cr 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, [even] the hidden [wisdom], which God ordained before the world unto our glory. Here it says god ordained the hidden wisdom, even before the world


12. Eze. 17:2 Son of man, put forth a riddle, and speak a parable unto the house of Israel. God orders riddles


13. Jdg.14:19 And the Spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he went down to Ashkelon, and slew thirty men of them, and took their spoil, and gave change of garments unto them which expounded the riddle.


And his anger was kindled, and he went up to his father's house. Here it says god was pleased when they cracked the riddle, and rewarded them.


14. Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of GOD to conceal a thing: but honor of kings is to search out a matter. And here its Gods honor to conceal things, and make you figure it out.


15. 2Cor.4:3,4 "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."


16. Isaiah 9,10 And he said, Go and tell this people, hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes


17. Col 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints.


18. JOB 27:11 I will teach you by the hand of God: that which is with the Almighty will I not conceal.


19. MAT 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.


20. psalm 89 might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world."


21. Proverbs 1:6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.


22. 1 cor 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:


23. IS. 48:6 Thou hast heard, see all this; and will not ye declare it? I have shewed thee new things from this time, even hidden things, and thou didst not know them.


24. Eziekel 3:5 For thou art not sent to a people of a strange speech and of an hard language, but to the house of Israel;


25. exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?


26. exodus 4:12 Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt say.


27. "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God." (Jesus Christ - The Holy Bible: Matthew 22:29)


28. Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.


Here God is saying that his word is like milk to you, as a babe must drink milk before it can eat solid food. God is saying his word is for the the one who is ready for meat, in other words, when one is ready for the deeper meaning, this is the meat, for the one full of age (wisdom). Reading Gods word literally is MILK, it is for the unskillful, and they will not understand.


Here the fact that this is all consciousness is made clear. It says to know the mystery of the Kingdom of God. Where is the Kingdom of God ? .


(Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.) The statement concludes by saying that "unto them that are without".

Outside of the meditative state. Outside of the inner realm of consciousness where exists the Kingdom of God.


Here we see that God speaks in mysteries, riddles and parables, He puts riddles in peoples mouths, he shuts their eyes and ears, he sends strange and hard speeches, he sends dark sayings, and that is Gods glory that he conceal a thing, he imparts secret wisdom and make you and I search it.

His word is as milk to the unskillful, without age (reason).


There's no doubt that the bible is showing you that, you can't read it at face value, you have to look for the deeper meaning, the secret wisdom, the dark sayings, the hidden and so forth.

The problem with Christianity as a whole, including all the pastors and TV evangelist pay no attention to these verses and read and teach the bible literally, which is an abomination unto god.

The word is Mysterious and you have to search it out, the truth is not given to the vain, to the once a week jesus mercenary.


There's no doubt is there, about what is being said here, the Bible was written in a certain metaphorical, symbolic language of old, which is mythology.


Words of wisdom from the Scriptures of Islam

Of course these verses from the Quran are purely myth just like the Bible, but they don't know that.


Kill those who join other gods with God wherever you may find them. Holy Qu'ran, Sura ix, 5-6


Those who believe fight in the cause of God. Holy Qu'ran, Sura iv, 76


Say to the Infidels: if they desist from their unbelief, what is now past shall be forgiven; but if they return to it, they have already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it God's. Holy Qu'ran, Sura viii, 39-42


Let those who fight in the cause of God who barter the life of this world for that which is to come; for whoever fights on God's path, whether he is killed or triumphs, We will give him a handsome reward. Holy Qu'ran, Sura iv, 74


Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves. Holy Qu'ran, Sura ii, 223


When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads; then when you have made wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives. Holy Qu'ran, Sura xlvii.4


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If I had access to smart bombs and missiles, there wouldn't be one church or mosque standing, the Vatican would be the first to go.

I'm growing tired of these childish god followers, the heck with them all, with their prophets and holy men.

Religions are the most destructive force in the universe. They are all pure FICTION

If Jesus were here, he would help me load the rocket launcher.

"And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple."

"And Jesus said to them, See you not all these things ( physical worship bldgs)? truly I say to you, There shall not be left here one stone on top of another, that shall not be thrown down."

It's a good thing that G-d does NOT answer prayers.

If G-d or the g-ds listened to the prayers of human beings, then all humankind would quickly perish, since they constantly pray for many evils to befall one another.

EPICURUS


"Religious symbolism" as applied to man's understanding of God changed every 2,160 years and along with that was man's understanding of God and His revelation and message. The "path" intended for mankind's salvation was being written and elaborated upon by God in the blackboard in the Sky.


This is the message that God has consistently spoken to mankind from Heaven since the creation of the Universe. Man is to reflect this Cosmic Order of Heaven by following and implementing the same Divine Patterns and Cycles that operate "Above" and bring them into being "Below". As Above, So Below

Mythically...(personification of the Sun and its path through the Zodiac and the 4 seasons of the year)
Mystically...(expressing a hidden metaphysical teaching, a secret wisdom, given under strict and exacting conditions to approved candidates by the Masters of Wisdom regarding the descent of the Soul/Logos into matter as well as its intended development during the life of a person, ie., mankind).

Do you think that the technology was due to energy being different there or archeological finds. There is a deeper story than Oh because God, etc.

I'm not saying that religions are or are not real. That is not my scope for this. I'm looking at this from more of a tangible and observable view...

Last Edited by acegotflows on 12/29/2012 11:43 AM