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stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?

 
Junker Voland
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12/29/2012 11:54 AM
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
Technology was higher in the Middle East because that's where cities and agriculture got started - both of which allow massive exploitation of people in big civic projects (building, war, etc) for the benefit of The Few. Starts with Akkad,Ur, Sumer, big long continuous line through Persia, Assyria, Caliphates, through to Iran.

Europe from Greece thru Rome to today's Anglo-Saxon Empire only got its shit together relatively later, after our Dark Age. The Middle East is going through its Dark Age now - and we're trying to make sure it doesn't get back out again any time soon.

So I think the technology and culture wars between us (The West) and Persia are for historical reasons, and they're still being fought. It's not an energy in the soil - it's different energies in our cultures, in our minds, what we're willing to live and die for. Same reason why our own TPTB trying to do that Sumerian Juju shit on us and shackle us all to some big anti-individualist slave wagon ain't gointa work. We don't do it like that over here.

Definitely ain't nothing to do with 'god', for sure. ;-)
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12/29/2012 11:58 AM
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
Strategic location in the middle east as a jumping off point to conduct operations.

Also ports into the Mediterranean , can't give up that strategic asset to the ME where a lot of the West's sworn enemies live.

The principle of sticking to your word and not backing down.

As a secondary launch pad for nukes should anyone attack the US, kind of a MAD backup.
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12/29/2012 12:03 PM
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
Israel is the 51st state of America. It is a strategic location for many reasons. The least of all being oil reserves in the surrounding countries. It's importance has little to do with religion. However, religion is a great tool to control hearts and minds. Israel is but a stepping stone in the grand scheme of things. Think beyond the next 25-50 years. Oil is a finite resource. Control of this region is paramount to the on-going super power that is America. Gaining the support of the masses through means of religion is part and parcel of the scenario. It would be nearly impossible I think, to perpetuate these conflicts without the aid of the disillusioned and unfortunates who rely on their faith to lead them through life. To your question I would say that separating one from the other is not possible. Regardless of the reason of it's importance, religion will always be a catalyst when Israel is involved.
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12/29/2012 12:15 PM
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
before christianity, the jews were just another religion. after that, for 2000 years, until the last century, the jews were despised. they were spit on, occasionally massacred, banned from some countries, corralled in ghettos in others, forced to wear emblems (such as a yellow star or an arm band or certain colored clothes), curfewed at night, banned from all professions except money lending or jewelry, etc.

why the sudden adoration of jews and their Israel? this turnaround in attitude toward the jews is actually bizarre when compared to the last 2000 years.

do you really think they were "given" a homeland of their own with no strings attached? I think the country of Israel was created as a strategic foothold in the middle east, foresawn by the creators and those-in-power at the close of WWII and the emergence of the Soviet Threat, and of course the undying support would follow. the excuse is that they are where christianity came from, their murder of Jesus which garnered so much hate conveniently forgotten.

and the western powers could get some number of jews out of their country.

it would have been a win-win situation.

if you don't believe this sort of opportunistic hacksawing of peoples and nations doesn't happen, you don't have to look any farther than the Balfour Accord and the British creation of the Arab states for another example.
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12/29/2012 12:30 PM
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
its miltary outpost for the crown/rothes to worm their way into middle east and finally the eastern countries
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12/29/2012 12:44 PM
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"Israel" was muslim controlled before Jews occupied it. They didn't destroy it.
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Did you know what Israel looked like before it became a nation again? Do you know what it looks like now?
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cruise
truth ain't your bag is it?
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Do you know the truth? Did you know it had not rained in over a thousand years before it was a nation again and nothing grew there? Did you know that since 1948, it has thrived again with produce and fruits? Did you know any of this?
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yes. Sure do.-
and it cost us every cent we hadredface
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2012 01:09 PM
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
The Jesuits created Israel, caused the wars and herded Jews there to create the Christian-Zionist deception.
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
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Tourism
war

you're right about those, I kind of lumped them in with the whole religious thing, but they do stand alone on their own. What else is there?

Thank you all for your input BTW
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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12/29/2012 01:14 PM
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
The Freemason's NWO are causing the wars & revolutions in the mideast to relocate Islam into the West to cause a civil war. The recent school massacre and gun control laws are more of the same, coming US civil war with Latins & Muslims vs American citizenry.
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
Genetics dispell the Khazarian theory.

The DNA of Abraham’s Children
Jun 2, 2010
Analysis of Jewish genomes refutes the Khazar claim.

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Jesus came first for Israel, born Jewish with the Jewish religion.


John 4:9 "Then said the woman of Samaria to [Jesus], How is it that you, being a Jew, ask drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans."
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
Israel is important for the disinfo to blame everything on as they have done for over 2000 years.
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12/29/2012 01:31 PM
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
It is the Rothschild method of being classified as being untouchable no matter how badly they fuck things up.

Odd because the OT banking rules are perfect as long as Gentiles are included as being part of the 12 Tribes, not so perfect without that step

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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
Genetics dispell the Khazarian theory.

The DNA of Abraham’s Children
Jun 2, 2010
Analysis of Jewish genomes refutes the Khazar claim.

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Jesus came first for Israel, born Jewish with the Jewish religion.


John 4:9 "Then said the woman of Samaria to [Jesus], How is it that you, being a Jew, ask drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans."
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you need to study, dear. Youarenot even close, no, not even in the ball field.

Hereis the tip of the iceberg:
Benjamin Freedman - Willard Hotel - 1961-4-5 - Vostfr:
[link to www.viddler.com]

There is no such thing as "Jew" 1rof1
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
Genetics dispell the Khazarian theory.

The DNA of Abraham’s Children
Jun 2, 2010
Analysis of Jewish genomes refutes the Khazar claim.

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Jesus came first for Israel, born Jewish with the Jewish religion.


John 4:9 "Then said the woman of Samaria to [Jesus], How is it that you, being a Jew, ask drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans."
 Quoting: - 30969563


you need to study, dear. Youarenot even close, no, not even in the ball field.

Hereis the tip of the iceberg:
Benjamin Freedman - Willard Hotel - 1961-4-5 - Vostfr:
[link to www.viddler.com]

There is no such thing as "Jew" 1rof1
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Friedman's khazar theory has been debunked by DNA evidence. The critics were right.
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2012 02:00 PM
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
they arenot "important",
they are FEARED monstershiding
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2012 02:06 PM
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Re: stripping away ALL religious connections can ANYBODY tell my why "Israel" is so important?
Genetics dispell the Khazarian theory.

The DNA of Abraham’s Children
Jun 2, 2010
Analysis of Jewish genomes refutes the Khazar claim.

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Jesus came first for Israel, born Jewish with the Jewish religion.


John 4:9 "Then said the woman of Samaria to [Jesus], How is it that you, being a Jew, ask drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans."
 Quoting: - 30969563


you need to study, dear. Youarenot even close, no, not even in the ball field.

Hereis the tip of the iceberg:
Benjamin Freedman - Willard Hotel - 1961-4-5 - Vostfr:
[link to www.viddler.com]

There is no such thing as "Jew" 1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30915212



Friedman's khazar theory has been debunked by DNA evidence. The critics were right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30969563


what does "DNA" have to do with dictionwtf

Further more "no linky you stinky", youare wasting my time.





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