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Oliver Stone (of all people!): "U.S. an Orwellian State" Under Obama. Calls Obama "a Wolf In Sheep's Clothing."

 
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Here's the show they were filming based on their book "Untold History of the United States" more episodes on uthf

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the only thing he doesnt say is

he is part of the group that brought this country on its knees

right in your face pretending to be your friend while stabbing you in the back

they control all sides
deception
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I wouldn't have guessed Oliver Stone would have said this.
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Oliver Stone has been "awake" for a long time....
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Lot more people in Hollywood keeping quiet for fears of what it will do to their careers. But a producer/director coming out and saying this might have a good impact on the industry, this could snowball.

We will see…


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davi ..... Your SUCH a 'butt buddy' of Obammy, you should realize your 'comments'/inane utterances here are a waste of the, as your SO predictable and juvenile .

DON't miss the bus for junior high again !
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Does it occur to many others that the PTB,NWO or whatever you choose to call them, WANT people to wake up now?
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Leftists like Oliver Stone are a dime a dozen. They may wring their hands over Obummer, but they're so screwed up they're still romanticizing Stalin and Castro.
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Did you serve two tours in Vietnam fuckhead?!?!?! He goes for the truth douche! Left right, left right, left right, duhhhhhhhhh....
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EVEN THE COMMIES ARE DESERTING THE HEAD COMMUNIST KENYAN. LOL
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FUCKIN SYNCHRONISITY! I just finished watching a movie by him!
And look what's superpined on GLP.
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Americans are living in an Orwellian state argue Academy Award-winning director Oliver Stone and historian Peter Kuznick, as they sit down with RT to discuss US foreign policy and the Obama administration’s disregard for the rule of law.

Both argue that Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and that people have forgiven him a lot because of the “nightmare of the Bush presidency that preceded him.”

“He has taken all the Bush changes he basically put them into the establishment, he has codified them,” Stone told RT. “It is an Orwellian state. It might not be oppressive on the surface, but there is no place to hide. Some part of you is going to end up in the database somewhere.”

According to Kuznick, American citizens live in a fish tank where their government intercepts more than 1.7 billion messages a day. “That is email, telephone calls, other forms of communication.”
RT’s Abby Martin in the program Breaking the Set discusses the Showtime film series and book titled The Untold History of the United States co-authored by Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick.

"Obama was a great hope for change"

RT: It took both of you almost five years to produce this series. And in it you have a chapter called Obama: Management of a Wounded Empire. You give a harsh critique of the Obama administration. What in your eyes has been the most troubling aspect of his presidency, Oliver?

Oliver Stone: I think under the disguise of sheep’s clothing he has been a wolf. That because of the nightmare of the Bush presidency that preceded him, people forgave him a lot. He was a great hope for change. The color of his skin, the upbringing, the internationalism, the globalism, seemed all evident. And he is an intelligent man. He has taken all the Bush changes he basically put them into the establishment, he has codified them. That is what is sad. So we are going into the second administration that is living outside the law and does not respect the law and foundations of our system and he is a constitutional lawyer, you know. Without the law, it is the law of the jungle. Nuremburg existed for a reason and there was a reason to have trials, there is a reason for due process – ‘habeas corpus’ as they call it in the United States.
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Americans are living in an Orwellian state argue Academy Award-winning director Oliver Stone and historian Peter Kuznick, as they sit down with RT to discuss US foreign policy and the Obama administration’s disregard for the rule of law.

Both argue that Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and that people have forgiven him a lot because of the “nightmare of the Bush presidency that preceded him.”

“He has taken all the Bush changes he basically put them into the establishment, he has codified them,” Stone told RT. “It is an Orwellian state. It might not be oppressive on the surface, but there is no place to hide. Some part of you is going to end up in the database somewhere.”

According to Kuznick, American citizens live in a fish tank where their government intercepts more than 1.7 billion messages a day. “That is email, telephone calls, other forms of communication.”
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Obama introduced "smart" meter electric meters, which can reveal your activities on a day to day basis, according to the University of South Carolina:

[link to www.greenrightnow.com]

That's in addition, of course, to shooting dangerous levels of radiofrequency radiation and EMF through you and your family 24/7, starting numerous fires, blowing out appliances, and causing electric bills to skyrocket.

For more info, please visit [link to stopsmartmeters.org] And do everything you can to keep these digital disasters off your home and/or business!

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I wouldn't have guessed Oliver Stone would have said this.
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Well his son is a conspiracy guy so he must have learned it somewhere!
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Now that the sElection is over, the left can commence on eating their own...
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Right.

This is the initial stage of building up the persona of the next Republican President. Demonize Obama. Next the Libtards. Then the Repubs look like good guys and they get the next 8 year cycle. Rinse and repeat til infinity because people are that damn stupid!
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Leftists like Oliver Stone are a dime a dozen. They may wring their hands over Obummer, but they're so screwed up they're still romanticizing Stalin and Castro.
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Did you serve two tours in Vietnam fuckhead?!?!?! He goes for the truth douche! Left right, left right, left right, duhhhhhhhhh....
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He served one tour and he has romanticized castro at least. I don't know about any other mass murderers he may have done so with.
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If the big hollywood jews are talking shit about obama then its aprecursor of what is to come

they are getti g ready to throw him under the bus and maybe much worse jult like they have done with all their useful idiots in the past



by any means necessary eh you fucking zio commie souless bastards
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Yep, some white christian extremist is gonna be patsy'd for the assassination of Obama the martyr whether real or not and then you get super zionazi who has already been commissioned to put together a gun confiscatory bill and with all the racial tension after his assassination and all the libtards and deviant homosexuals mourning their messiah the harshest gun control will be passed.

Possible scenario anyways, Beware the Biden who may just be biden his time. Or not!!
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If the big hollywood jews are talking shit about obama then its aprecursor of what is to come

they are getti g ready to throw him under the bus and maybe much worse jult like they have done with all their useful idiots in the past



by any means necessary eh you fucking zio commie souless bastards
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Yep, some white christian extremist is gonna be patsy'd for the assassination of Obama the martyr whether real or not and then you get super zionazi who has already been commissioned to put together a gun confiscatory bill and with all the racial tension after his assassination and all the libtards and deviant homosexuals mourning their messiah the harshest gun control will be passed.

Possible scenario anyways, Beware the Biden who may just be biden his time. Or not!!
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Leftists like Oliver Stone are a dime a dozen. They may wring their hands over Obummer, but they're so screwed up they're still romanticizing Stalin and Castro.
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Did you serve two tours in Vietnam fuckhead?!?!?! He goes for the truth douche! Left right, left right, left right, duhhhhhhhhh....
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He served one tour and he has romanticized castro at least. I don't know about any other mass murderers he may have done so with.
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I know quite a few filmmakers who admire Castro, some of whom are otherwise intelligent people, and I have to ask WTF?

I don't doubt that some are driven by genuine 'do-gooder' instincts, but nevertheless from their comfortable life they ignore the repression they claim to hate, and glorify a fantasy that they themselves aren't at risk of living

My pop had a friend named Rick Estrada, a cartoonist, who lost many friends during the Bay of Pigs fiasco, when those against Castro where tricked into exposing themselves only to be abandoned after exposed

The survivors were tortured, many family members vanished.

If it were such a paradise, why do people risk their lives on tiny rafts trying to escape and get to Florida?
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Have you guys ever noticed this scene from the 1973 movie Executive action where they talking about reducing population from 7 billion to around 550 million years before the georgia guidestone was erected? Thought it was interesting. Full movie is on youtube,not a bad film.
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he's whining, yet he probably voted for him and gave him a ton of money in campaign donations. Oh well Oliver and the rest of the Obamanauts...that's what you voted for...now deal with it.
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I take pride in ticking off canadian liberals....you worked up so easily. neener2
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The words "Canadian Liberal" is synonymous with the words "Hopeless Dipshit".
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Leftists like Oliver Stone are a dime a dozen. They may wring their hands over Obummer, but they're so screwed up they're still romanticizing Stalin and Castro.
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Did you serve two tours in Vietnam fuckhead?!?!?! He goes for the truth douche! Left right, left right, left right, duhhhhhhhhh....
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He served one tour and he has romanticized castro at least. I don't know about any other mass murderers he may have done so with.
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I know quite a few filmmakers who admire Castro, some of whom are otherwise intelligent people, and I have to ask WTF?

I don't doubt that some are driven by genuine 'do-gooder' instincts, but nevertheless from their comfortable life they ignore the repression they claim to hate, and glorify a fantasy that they themselves aren't at risk of living

My pop had a friend named Rick Estrada, a cartoonist, who lost many friends during the Bay of Pigs fiasco, when those against Castro where tricked into exposing themselves only to be abandoned after exposed

The survivors were tortured, many family members vanished.

If it were such a paradise, why do people risk their lives on tiny rafts trying to escape and get to Florida?
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The deluded useful idiots never have an answer for that question. Unless name calling,profanity and obfuscation is an answer

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The deluded useful idiots never have an answer for that question. Unless name calling,profanity and obfuscation is an answer
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agreed

and they never explain why every single communist or marxist "worker's paradise" in history needed barbed wire fences and border guards with orders to kill anyone trying to leave the paradise

every single one

you'd think if it were such a glorious economic success, people would be fighting to get in, not dying for the chance to get out with only the shirts on their backs

curious dat

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When Stone gets it you KNOW its got bad..
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I suspect he studied Constitutional Law (if he ever did) to look for ways to get around it.

He knew he didn't qualify. He was studying Consititional Law like a burglar studies locks.
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It was even on his own website he was born British Kenyan like his father.

He didn't even keep it secret. He winked when he said he was born in Hawaii. No hospital in Hawaii has claimed him.

He was the non Bush candidate.
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I wouldn't have guessed Oliver Stone would have said this.
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Surprise to me, too. Shows you how bad things have really gotten. The interview with him was nothing short of amazing...and frightening.
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well, not entirely surprising as Oliver Stone IS the producer of the movie "JFK", so he is known to be open to a conspiracy theory or two, lol

never mind "Wall Street" and the sequel, which nicely summed up what was going on which led to the great crash of 2008

Never mind "Platoon" and "Born on the 4th of July", so he also knows a thing or two about the military industrial complex

in other words, he isn't the usual Hollywood airhead, and I'm glad to see that he wasn't sucked in by the most recent dose of kickapoo joy juice

the movies he has done has assured that he travels easily in certain circles, circles which include retired businessmen and politicians, where he gets to hear even more 411

amazing what old dudes tell each other while a little drunk and sitting in a steam room
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I have a family in Chicago and friends in NY and California. I have met lots of Americans and I honestly think that they are great people. I think that they have more balls than most of other nationalities, or so I thought... I see now how USA is going down the drain and Americans complain and complain and only complain, unfortunately. Folks, what is wrong with you? Just complaining won’t change anything!

Anyone remember “Solidarnosc”? Poles didn’t complain only organized themselves and stood up to communism and very powerful Russia, and they won because in unity is power. Now they are free and the best standing economically country in the middle Europe. Hey, you know what I have in mind... You started it well with the occupy movements and what? It’s sad to see how your rights are being taken away, how you are losing your jobs and homes when the rich are getting richer. And it’s especially shocking to know that soon you are going to be (OMG) implanted... Where they heck in the World something like this is happening? No where, only in America! Why? Because you let it happen!
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I agree with just about everything you say, and congrats for not saying the usual Canadian "all 'murkins' are morons' , it's so unoriginal

and I agree about the Poles. 'Solidarity' was one of the most amazing movements I have witnessed in my life

The problem is the internet and entertainment...the very thing we are using to have this discussion

It's a blessing, but it (like TV before it, which prepared the way in the dumbing down) is dissolving attention spans and helping create ever more rifts and divisions

Single parent households and serial divorces ensure that children often spend little to no time with grandparents and older uncles and cousins...the very people who have been watching this story unfold and who can pass on the history and spirit of their culture

who says this is not intentional

across the world, there is movement to demoralize individuals, to water down cultures and nationalities, to teach that resistance is futile, and with the internet and 24/7 entertainment/programming it is almost impossible to escape the direct-to-subconscious brainwashing

I have always been a sucker for lost causes. I deeply admire the poles, and that gallant but doomed cavalry which rode out on horses to combat Hitler's tanks on September 1st, 1939...

I guess that may be one of the things which attracted me to Texas, home of the Alamo and possibly the scene of the next last stand.

It may just come down to a faithful remnant of snake bit bastards, ornery, drunk, pissed off with little to lose...

better to die a free man than live a long life as a slave...
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Does it occur to many others that the PTB,NWO or whatever you choose to call them, WANT people to wake up now?
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Does it occur to many others that the PTB,NWO or whatever you choose to call them, WANT people to wake up now?
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I'll wake them up

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Americans are living in an Orwellian state argue Academy Award-winning director Oliver Stone and historian Peter Kuznick, as they sit down with RT to discuss US foreign policy and the Obama administration’s disregard for the rule of law.

Both argue that Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and that people have forgiven him a lot because of the “nightmare of the Bush presidency that preceded him.”

“He has taken all the Bush changes he basically put them into the establishment, he has codified them,” Stone told RT. “It is an Orwellian state. It might not be oppressive on the surface, but there is no place to hide. Some part of you is going to end up in the database somewhere.”

According to Kuznick, American citizens live in a fish tank where their government intercepts more than 1.7 billion messages a day. “That is email, telephone calls, other forms of communication.”
 Quoting: telling it straight


Obama introduced "smart" meter electric meters, which can reveal your activities on a day to day basis, according to the University of South Carolina:

[link to www.greenrightnow.com]

That's in addition, of course, to shooting dangerous levels of radiofrequency radiation and EMF through you and your family 24/7, starting numerous fires, blowing out appliances, and causing electric bills to skyrocket.

For more info, please visit [link to stopsmartmeters.org] And do everything you can to keep these digital disasters off your home and/or business!

yoda
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Have you guys ever noticed this scene from the 1973 movie Executive action where they talking about reducing population from 7 billion to around 550 million years before the georgia guidestone was erected? Thought it was interesting. Full movie is on youtube,not a bad film.
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clearly, he is an 'insider' of sorts and tries to inform the masses indirectly...


He has more integrity than many colleagues...I feel he is eing sincere

as far as he believes
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Obama has a depth to him that is difficult to fathom.

I still don't know what his role is!

I just sometimes get the feeling that he is subtlety mocking the Left, and their stupidity.

Not that I think he is big on Republicans either.

With the company he keeps, a Man like him is capable of just about anything.

Stone may be right, but not in any way he would understand.

2013 is shaping up to be one hell of a ride!
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he still blames the state of affairs he describes on bush

'nightmare of the bush administration '
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i don't get the (of all people) part.
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Kind of like Jamie Foxx coming out in the It's Time video about guns.

What, a weak before your movie came out where you use guns for what now?

WTF, can this shit be any more out in the open.

Hope your getting ready for a major shift Americans.
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