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Solar minimum or maximum? Solar system wide heating or global cooling?

 
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Solar minimum or maximum? Solar system wide heating or global cooling?
So...

...over the years I've read a lot of sites that indicate that we are in a solar minimum and the opposite. Both sides have charts and are very convincing to me. Maybe I'm just a weak minded fool?

I've also read that we are going into an ice age or that we are coming out of one...as well as the idea that ALL the planets in our solar system are heating up right now.

Now I am pretty convinced that the earth is releasing methane and CO2 right now and that many glaciers are melting...but that doesn't mean that the average global temperature isn't decreasing.

So...which is it people? What's the consensus on this website on WTF is going on with the weather and the sun? The one thing I know for sure is that the two are intimately connected.
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Re: Solar minimum or maximum? Solar system wide heating or global cooling?
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Looks like we are ABOUT to enter solar minimum based on the sun's polar magnetic field. We can still see strong activity as it is flipping.

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Re: Solar minimum or maximum? Solar system wide heating or global cooling?
Here is the thing, we are coming out of an extreamly calm 11 year minimum & it is predicted to be a very short maximum that will peak early. It will then go back in to another minimum or a grand solar minimum that happens every 180 years or so.

And yes glaciers are melting & it is a good thing we are still technically in an ice age. This grand mimimum if it does happen will be rather harsh.


Snip; Carl is no longer with us, but he has certainly left us with a legacy. Back in 1965 Paul Jose was one of the first to link solar modulation with planetary movements. He discovered that the planets roughly returned to the same position every 178.8 years (My research suggests 172 yrs). Jose's paper included a very rough solar radius graph which showed some modulation but was difficult to draw from. Later Theodor Landscheidt wrote many papers using a similar principle but mainly relied on solar torque graphs which ranged over long time periods. Theodor also focused on the zero crossings or when the Sun returns to the centre of the solar system, which in my opinion is not the crucial stage but happens close to grand minima. Landscheidt predicted a Grand Minimum to start at 1990, peak around 2030 (the latter 2030 might be late, if the current trend continues) and extend out to 2070...Those dates are derived from the zero crossing method which incorporates an extreme in solar torque measurements.

Then Carl Smith in 2007 using JPL data and his own programming skills plotted the Angular Momentum of the Sun. This graph I believe is the Rosetta stone of solar science.

Graphs and a lot more info at the link just to get you on the right path.

[link to www.landscheidt.info]

Now the last minimum we just went though was rather unique with how long it lasted and how calm the sun was for 11 years. So if we do fall in to another Maunder Minimum as it was known in the 17th century last time it happened in theory we will fall back in to a little ice age again.

Snip; The Maunder Minimum falls within the climatically cooler period of the “Little Ice Age”, during which temperatures were particularly low over continents in the Northern hemisphere (especially in winter). It has long been suspected that the low solar activity during the Maunder Minimum was one of the causes of the Little Ice Age, although other factors like a small drop in greenhouse gas concentrations around 1600 and strong volcanic eruptions during that time likely played a role as well.
Solar physicists do not yet understand how an extended solar-activity low like the Maunder Minimum arises. Yet there is recent observational evidence for an unusual behavior of the Sun during the current cycle 24, including a missing zonal wind flow within the Sun, decreasing magnetic field strength of sunspots and lower activity around the poles of the Sun. These observations prompted Frank Hill and colleagues to suggest that the Sun might enter a new Maunder-like minimum after the current 11-year cycle ends (i.e. after 2020 or so).


Lot of info at this link also…

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Oh there trying to blow it up again with Oo two such blasts.
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Who knows for sure.. We can only see what happens next year :)
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There is a magnetic reversal coming and the poles will move. I will simply call it CLIMATE CHANGE as it will be experienced at different levels globally. Yes there is an ice age coming when the poles move.

Marine life fossils are found on the top of very high mountains. Huge cities with roads and buildings are found deep under the oceans. The planet does these death and rebirth cycles every now and then. Call it a cleansing cycle and we are due for one hence the Global Warming/CLIMATE CHANGE agenda being pushed globally but you are being lied to as to the reason for why it is actually occurring.

You can fight this all you want but the PTB with their carbon tax laws, War on Terror hoax etc. are simply writing the next chapter for global governance and control of whats left of the human race after these huge earth changes occur. These are the very same things Georgia Guide Stones depicts.

Last Edited by Ohwell on 12/29/2012 05:57 PM
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Re: Solar minimum or maximum? Solar system wide heating or global cooling?
There is a magnetic reversal coming and the poles will move. I will simply call it CLIMATE CHANGE as it will be experienced at different levels globally. Yes there is an ice age coming when the poles move.

Marine life fossils are found on the top of very high mountains. Huge cities with roads and buildings are found deep under the oceans. The planet does these death and rebirth cycles every now and then. Call it a cleansing cycle and we are due for one hence the Global Warming/CLIMATE CHANGE agenda being pushed globally but you are being lied to as to the reason for why it is actually occurring.

You can fight this all you want but the PTB with their carbon tax laws, War on Terror hoax etc. are simply writing the next chapter for global governance and control of whats left of the human race after these huge earth changes occur. These are the very same things Georgia Guide Stones depicts.
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makes sense, but something tells me that it will be different this time.
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Re: Solar minimum or maximum? Solar system wide heating or global cooling?
Yes it will be different as the planet is coming to a completion. It's the grand finale we are at. The human experiment is coming to a conclusion. The Georgia Guidestones is simply a blueprint as to what and how they want to keep the human populace after these events.

It's a controlled spiritual way of life of which Whishaupt writes and speaks of Lucifer himself comes to rule. The invisible hand that has been guiding humanity through the ages finally reveals itself.

The geopolitical manoeuvres we are witnessing now i.e. Gun confiscation, a collapse of everything etc. is simply in preparation for the inevitable events we are discussing here.

Last Edited by Ohwell on 12/29/2012 06:42 PM
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The following is an excerpt from The Historical Arkhive website,

www.thehistoricalarkhive.com

There Is No More Time. Time Has Run Out…

Everyone is looking in the wrong direction. Many people have the incorrect expectation that the eruption of a great earthquake will occur along the New Madrid fault-line that stretches across several central-southeastern states in the U.S. -- Nothing could be further from the truth.

Rather, it is the underwater mountain range known as The Mid-Atlantic Ridge or The Mid-Oceanic Ridge which hides a dormant fault line that encircles the entire Planet of The Earth. The Mid-Atlantic/Oceanic Ridge is symbolically representative of “Yin & Yan.”The dormant fault line that is hidden within this underwater mountain range is also referred to as,

‘The Sleeping Giant of Poseidon’

Beter get ready folks!...


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