Are there any former military people here that can comment on the feds ability to confiscate guns!

Has it truly become that sensitive?

In my line of business, I am working with a lot of high brass from Bragg, LeJune, and Norfolk. CPT, LTC, COL etc... They're prepping. They don't say "getting ready for battle" but they are saying they want to "be ready". I'm working with SF folks as well.

I was listening to Stewart Rhodes (founder of Oathkeepers) the other day. He said: if they repeal the 2nd amendment we're looking at Civil War II

I think if it went asymmetric, with some hint of organization to begin with to get it off the ground, that there would not be a chance for the feds.It would likely have a snowball effect. Unfortunately people have to be willing to wait out the aggressor, sometimes for years and even decades.

This bears repeating:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”


- Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

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It wont be the US military that Obongo unleashes against us....It will be the 100,000 arned thugs of his Homeland security department.

This modern day Praetorian Guard is loaded up with a billion rounds of hollow point bullets, sound cannons, predator drones...

These are the "knock on the door in the moddel of the night" dudes

That's what we have to worry about!

I think you're quoting me, but I'm having trouble discerning your point.

Without Googling, my understanding is that 3% of colonists actually took up arms against the British in the American War of Independence. Point being, you don't need to have a vast majority of people to get together and stop something from happening.

For the second part of it, I *think* I'm understanding but am not sure. Yes, the confiscators would be outnumbered by their victims. I don't know if the "victims" will fight back or not. I'm hoping that this doesn't happen.

Either way, I agree that it would at the least be very monetarily expensive.

About a million of those little Vietnamese men died.

But Siagon is now Ho Chi Mihn City.

But in the US, the soldiers would be fighting against their families.

Ho Chi Minh was never gonna quit, so we had to get out
at 50,000 dead.

You must have missed the headline on Drudge?

as opposed to say japan , where would you rather have spent the last 40 years ?

vietnam rice pack joe and jane got fucked longtime and still live not much better than their ancestors in 1012 )

Still not live better than their ancestors?

That's a fairly 'Westernized' perspective.

the muslims are using the same determination against us,
and our military planners have some tough decisions to make.

i say, stop using troops and start using nukes.

After US troops get done killing their own families because they follow orders without question, they themselves will be killed by the robots and drones that the TPTB plan to replace them with.

Of course Elites have no love for soldiers, that's why they are called SOL-DIERS or soul diers in occult-speak. All these troops will certainly all be killed by the elites when they are done killing Americans.

Read Zbigniew Brezenski's book The Grand Chessboard. Brezenski calls the deaths of US troops HUMAN SACRIFICE.

all military personnel are sworn to defend the Constitution
against all enemies foreign and domestic.

I'll believe it when I see it. Talk is cheap and oaths don't mean shit when people don't uphold them.

The majority of the populace is clueless with regard to what's coming down the pike. Listening to Steve Quayle is a real eye-opener and wake up call. I got an email from an inside source that is almost identical to what Steve talked about in the following interview. It's depressing. There will be nothing left of the constitution after about a year from now. Facebook is already censoring and deleting accounts that are in support of the 2nd ammendment.



[link to www.youtube.com]
Steve Quayle : The Global Elite's Plans Revealed

Published on Dec 23, 2012 - Author and researcher, Steve Quayle, discussed the coming worst-case scenarios approaching the world and how they are all interrelated. "We're in a time period like no other in the history of the world," he declared, warning that the proverbial 'end game' of the global elite, as foretold in the Bible, has arrived. He cited the amplified violence in society, manipulation of the world's economy, and extreme weather being controlled by HAARP as indicators of this agenda to take over the planet. According to Quayle, "UN globalists" see gun control in America as a key step towards fulfilling their plan and he claimed that "four star, active duty generals in special operations" have told him that there are nearly 400,000 NATO troops already in the United States.

Quayle also shared chilling details about the secret plans for FEMA camps in America. He cited a whistle blower from the EPA who told him "the real purpose of a lot of it." Quayle explained that there is a "red list" of people who are "deemed incorrigible" and includes talk show hosts, gun owners, veterans, and "people who are outspoken." These unfortunate souls, he said, are to be "terminated within the first 30 days" and, thus, will not end up in FEMA camps. The "blue list" are law enforcement and military personnel who carry out the plans for the people on the "red list." Finally, there are those on the "green list," who will reside in FEMA camps and are reeducated to be turned into "techno-serfs" for the global elite. This nation is fubar and congress is the problem as they've sold out the American people long, long ago.

Wikipedia
As a conspiracy theory, the term New World Order or NWO refers to the emergence of a totalitarian one-world government.

The common theme in conspiracy theories about a New World Order is that a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government—which replaces sovereign nation-states—and an all-encompassing propaganda that ideologizes its establishment as the culmination of history's progress. Significant occurrences in politics and finance are speculated to be orchestrated by an unduly influential cabal operating through many front organizations. Numerous historical and current events are seen as steps in an on-going plot to achieve world domination through secret political gatherings and decision-making processes.

Prior to the early 1990s, New World Order conspiracism was limited to two American countercultures, primarily the militantly anti-government right, and secondarily fundamentalist Christians concerned with end-time emergence of the Antichrist.Skeptics, such as Michael Barkun and Chip Berlet, have observed that right-wing populist conspiracy theories about a New World Order have now not only been embraced by many seekers of stigmatized knowledge but have seeped into popular culture, thereby inaugurating an unrivaled period of people actively preparing for apocalyptic millenarian scenarios in the United States of the late 20th and early 21st centuries. These political scientists are concerned that this mass hysteria could have what they judge to be devastating effects on American political life, ranging from widespread political alienation to escalating lone-wolf terrorism.

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You better ask yourself a question...

Is it better to GO with them, knowing what THAT will mean?

Or better to defend your rights, no matter what.

Yeah that's right. You know these wars are unconstitutional don't you? Why are troops following orders by even being there? They are are supposed to uphold the Constitution yadda yadda. Let's nuke the muslims because they dare to fight back because troops don't have the guts to refuse UNCONSTITUTIONAL orders. These troops are all going to kill their families and friends. They really are soul diers, the elites are right. Their souls are dead.

we have to do some thang its our job and love of this place we have to say no more we will not walk away and say its ok we have say NO MORE no matter what it takes .plz thank of what our fathers and brothers and sisters fought for tell them NO MORE WILL I RUN I WILL STAND BY MY PPL

I could see this happening.

Rice farmers and water buffalo kicked their asses. Same thing would happen here. They wouldn't know who wasd the enemy, which would be just about everybody.

Facebook has ALWAYS been nothing more than the single best CIA data-mining tool ever invented.

Hitler would have given his left AND right nut, for something like that.

The thing you have to prepare for is...they bombed the shit out of those farmers and buffalo, and killed shitloads of kids and babies and old men and women, but yet, in the end, they STILL got their asses kicked. Too bad they got to run away...they won't have anywhere to run when they start that shit here, though.

That's why they are going to be so violent and ruthless when it starts. iT WILL BE THEM VERSUS US...LOSER GETS EXECUTED.

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8 - ONLY CONGRESS can declare war. Only Congress.

The President has NO powers or say in this whatsoever. Nor the United Nations nor any other body. Not by any executive order or any other "War Powers" language designed to bewilder people.

War powers by the President is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and even if the Supreme Court ruled it Constitutional it would not make it so. The Supreme Court also ruled that blacks were not human, and that corporations own your body (DNA). Read the Constitution.

Of course they will bring in UN troops to exterminate whole areas of people where resistance has occurred. Be ready, because these pos will do this. They are traitors.