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How to Escape from the USA?

 
Justalittlebad
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How to Escape from the USA?
Ideas or plans welcome.
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Kalles Kaviar

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12/29/2012 06:24 PM
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
1. Go to the airport.
2. Buy a ticket to somewhere else.
3. Relax with a beer before take off.
4. ???????
5. Profit
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12/29/2012 06:27 PM
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
There is truly no else where to go
What happens here will happen everywhere
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12/29/2012 06:29 PM
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There is truly no else where to go
What happens here will happen everywhere
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hf winning
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12/30/2012 12:54 AM
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
Actually it is much harder for an American to move to another country and become a citizen there than it is for them to come here.

The laws and stuff you may be trying to run from are there in other places, and often worse.

Its just that Americans complain far much more and have a greater sense of entitlement than the rest of the world.

You will also find that most non-Americans can't even stand being around an American, the idea itself makes their skin crawl.
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12/30/2012 12:56 AM
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The laws and stuff you may be trying to run from are there in other places, and often worse."
No, most places are far freer, generally speaking.
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12/30/2012 12:58 AM
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
If you're going to go ... do it while you still can ... it's going to get much harder to leave in the near future.
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12/30/2012 12:59 AM
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
I remember seeing in that Obamacare bill that 30% of all money wired out of the USA must be returned to the IRS. I think that starts jan 1st.
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As far as citizenship, it is hard to obtain unless you are able to marry a native.

However, residency is available in most countries if you have the funds.

How much depends on where you will be going.
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
The trick is to go visit another country now. Find Americans who frequently visit the country, meet them, and get them to introduce you to people in that country. Then go visit that country and meet people first hand.

(Hint: your two best bets are missionaries and scientists - they have many contacts who are typically hospitable.)

Escaping is the easy part. Having a place to go is the hard part.
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
The trick is to go visit another country now. Find Americans who frequently visit the country, meet them, and get them to introduce you to people in that country. Then go visit that country and meet people first hand.

(Hint: your two best bets are missionaries and scientists - they have many contacts who are typically hospitable.)

Escaping is the easy part. Having a place to go is the hard part.
 Quoting: Zedakah


Very practical suggestions!
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12/30/2012 01:18 AM
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
Ideas or plans welcome.
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Dont forget to resign your citizenship on the way out you traitor!
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12/30/2012 01:20 AM
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
declare your house an independent country
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[link to www.ptshamrock.com (secure)]

They sound very knowledgeable and reputable. They could help you get residency and/or passports in other countries.

Panama is relatively easy, you just need proof of income of (I think it's) about $800 a month US.

If you are young-ish and have a profession or trade needed by New Zealand, they let some people in. [link to www.immigration.govt.nz]
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Look into your family tree. It's possible that you may qualify for a second citizenship based on your ancestry. e.g. If you have an Irish grandparent, you qualify for Irish citizenship (and that's only one example of many).

A second citizenship opens a lot of doors. Also, it gives you a place to go where you can live and work without having to jump through a slew of expensive immigration hoops.

A number of Americans qualify for a second citizenship based on their ancestry, and they don't even realize it. Check into it.
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12/30/2012 01:31 AM
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
[link to www.ptshamrock.com (secure)]

They sound very knowledgeable and reputable. They could help you get residency and/or passports in other countries.

Panama is relatively easy, you just need proof of income of (I think it's) about $800 a month US.

If you are young-ish and have a profession or trade needed by New Zealand, they let some people in. [link to www.immigration.govt.nz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27352798


I have heard that immigration into Panama for Americans is about to get even easier.

I would provide a link, but the article is on a site that recently changed to require folks to buy a subscription to read it.
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12/30/2012 01:33 AM
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
I remember seeing in that Obamacare bill that 30% of all money wired out of the USA must be returned to the IRS. I think that starts jan 1st.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


This is correct.
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12/30/2012 01:35 AM

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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
There is truly no else where to go
What happens here will happen everywhere
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Not to mention the fact that you will be hated most wherever you go. Twenty years ago everyone loved Americans..It's not that way anymore.

You might want to check out the Philippines. It's inexpensive to live and they still like Americans there. Stay away from Mindanao, too dangerous.

Check out Palau, Saipan, Chuuk or some other little Pacific Island. Look into Bali too... the people are mostly Hindu not Muslim.

Just remember, anywhere you go, you will need a work visa and they are not easy to come by. If you don't need to work..then I say, head to an island and enjoy life.

Otherwise, stay here and enjoy the show.
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
I remember seeing in that Obamacare bill that 30% of all money wired out of the USA must be returned to the IRS. I think that starts jan 1st.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


This is correct.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063348


If you purchase land/homes outside of the US, many places will request US cash. They will also give hints on how to bring large amounts of cash out in briefcases or "other ways."
If you can justify killing one man, you can justify killing every man.

The Greatest Lie is the one never told, but assumed.

History isn't a measure of our successes, but the compilation of our mistakes.
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
Ideas or plans welcome.
 Quoting: Justalittlebad


Dont forget to resign your citizenship on the way out you traitor!
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Oh shut up.

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12/30/2012 01:37 AM
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
Why would you ever want to leave? We live within the heart of the Beast...where else greater than the core of the body, to effect the greatest change.
Personally, I am absolutely grateful to have been when and where I was...the only others are the founding fathers, who could have been blessed with such fortuitous circumstances.
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[link to www.ustream.tv]
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12/30/2012 01:44 AM
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
I remember seeing in that Obamacare bill that 30% of all money wired out of the USA must be returned to the IRS. I think that starts jan 1st.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


This is correct.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063348


If you purchase land/homes outside of the US, many places will request US cash. They will also give hints on how to bring large amounts of cash out in briefcases or "other ways."
 Quoting: Zedakah


Trying to take large amounts of undeclared cash abroad will get you into a load of trouble, and the cash will be seized.

The real purpose of the naked x-ray scanners in airports is to make sure you are not smuggling something like a lot of cash out of the country.
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I remember seeing in that Obamacare bill that 30% of all money wired out of the USA must be returned to the IRS. I think that starts jan 1st.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


This is correct.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063348


If you purchase land/homes outside of the US, many places will request US cash. They will also give hints on how to bring large amounts of cash out in briefcases or "other ways."
 Quoting: Zedakah


Trying to take large amounts of undeclared cash abroad will get you into a load of trouble, and the cash will be seized.

The real purpose of the naked x-ray scanners in airports is to make sure you are not smuggling something like a lot of cash out of the country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31080193


That may be true of that intent; but there are still many airports without those scanners.

Of course the easiest way of bypassing that trouble is to not go through a US airport to begin with.
If you can justify killing one man, you can justify killing every man.

The Greatest Lie is the one never told, but assumed.

History isn't a measure of our successes, but the compilation of our mistakes.
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12/30/2012 01:51 AM
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
Ideas or plans welcome.
 Quoting: Justalittlebad


Dont forget to resign your citizenship on the way out you traitor!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31128024


Oh, please. A lot of people vote with their feet. There's nothing wrong with it. Also, if it were treasonous, it would be illegal, and it is not... at least not yet.

Seriously, you sound like someone from the former Soviet Union. Why don't you just call him a "defector" and be done with it?
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There is truly no else where to go
What happens here will happen everywhere
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25672410


hf winning
 Quoting: Justalittlebad


Exactly I would rather stand here with my friends than parish running through some third world jungle with nothing left to fight back with.

America is the final stand.
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
Look into your family tree. It's possible that you may qualify for a second citizenship based on your ancestry. e.g. If you have an Irish grandparent, you qualify for Irish citizenship (and that's only one example of many).

A second citizenship opens a lot of doors. Also, it gives you a place to go where you can live and work without having to jump through a slew of expensive immigration hoops.

A number of Americans qualify for a second citizenship based on their ancestry, and they don't even realize it. Check into it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31080193


Yup. I qualify for Dutch citizenship. I should get it really, would be able to live in any EU country I want... I just don't bother because I have no reason nor desire to live anywhere else besides the great United States of America.
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This is correct.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063348


If you purchase land/homes outside of the US, many places will request US cash. They will also give hints on how to bring large amounts of cash out in briefcases or "other ways."
 Quoting: Zedakah


Trying to take large amounts of undeclared cash abroad will get you into a load of trouble, and the cash will be seized.

The real purpose of the naked x-ray scanners in airports is to make sure you are not smuggling something like a lot of cash out of the country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31080193


That may be true of that intent; but there are still many airports without those scanners.

Of course the easiest way of bypassing that trouble is to not go through a US airport to begin with.
 Quoting: Zedakah


I'm glad to hear that not all airports have them. I cannot imagine the degradation of having to go through something like that.

Of course, even if you can get out of the USA without being thoroughly searched, you may still be searched by the country admitting you.

Traveling with a lot of undeclared cash is a bad idea.
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Re: How to Escape from the USA?
Go to the navada desert just below las vegas with a high powered laser pointer and flash morse code into the sky requesting relocation. An interstellar alien ship will pick you up at midnight, every other Tuesday.. except on holidays.
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We don`t escape, we stand.

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