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Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops

 
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A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city. The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test. “This kind of puts an official face on discrimination in America against people of a certain class,” Jordan said today from his Waterford home. “I maintain you have no more control over your basic intelligence than your eye color or your gender or anything else.” Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training. The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average. Jordan alleged his rejection from the police force was discrimination. He sued the city, saying his civil rights were violated because he was denied equal protection under the law. But the U.S. District Court found that New London had “shown a rational basis for the policy.” In a ruling dated Aug. 23, the 2nd Circuit agreed. The court said the policy might be unwise but was a rational way to reduce job turnover. Jordan has worked as a prison guard since he took the test.
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They need people who will obey orders, not question the validity of them. Bearing that in mind, just remember to use short words and simple sentences when speaking to the police.
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I love the implication.....need an idiot....call a cop
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I love the implication.....need an idiot....call a cop
 Quoting: CtYankee


used to be "Protect and Serve"....now it seems more "Harass and Intimidate"....cops sure ain't what they used to be for sure.
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Wow, so they really are completely stupid pricks...
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Of course they rejected it. It's much easier to get a monkey to follow orders. Why would they want a cop that thinks?
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Old news. I took the test in 1987 and was told I was too smart to be a cop.
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the police used to at least appear figures of respectability. now theyre these tiny, stupid wannabees
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the police used to at least appear figures of respectability. now theyre these tiny, stupid wannabees
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27667491



Barney Fife comes to mind......lol....Andy got my bullet!
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the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.
 Quoting: Panhead


So as long as you discriminate against everyone, you are fine?
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no wonder crimes don't get solved and innocent people go to jail
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The real reason for the refusal to hire him is simple. Cops are in a position to commit varies crimes without suspicion put on them. A highly intelligent cop(I don't consider an IQ of 125 highly Intelligent,it is just above the norm)can get away with more crimes than a dumber cop can.
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Flesh drones. Nuff' said.
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No wonder people get shot with guns instead of tasers. Oops, I meant to pull my taser instead! This is not good.
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They need people who will obey orders, not question the validity of them. Bearing that in mind, just remember to use short words and simple sentences when speaking to the police.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179566


that and the ol jedi mind trick

and ya the only reason they want stupid cops is so they will do what they are told when it comes to terrorizing and killing civilians.
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this story is from the distant year 2000. i'm sure they're
even dumber now... hiding
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always knew I was to smart to be a cop.....
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I love the implication.....need an idiot....call a cop
 Quoting: CtYankee


That's rich....thanks for the smile
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the police used to at least appear figures of respectability. now theyre these tiny, stupid wannabees
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27667491



Barney Fife comes to mind......lol....Andy got my bullet!
 Quoting: Panhead


Too bad we don't do the same thing with these fucking retards today. Giving a retard a deadly weapon and training him to kill anything that appears to be a threat to his safety is obviously not in the people's best interests.

Teaching them that cops are special with special rights and more valuable lives isn't either.We would be a hell of alot safer without law enforcement and making it the way it used to be, where citizens alone have the right to arrest or resist criminals along with an elected sheriff and his sworn deputies. Municipal police departments are unconstitutional anyway, there is no prevision in the Constitution for the existence of a paramilitary organization hired by city governments whose sole job is to create revenue for the city and protect the haves from the have nots..
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Just pretend to be stupid duh LOL
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Old news. I took the test in 1987 and was told I was too smart to be a cop.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21000351


I took the test in that same year and was told I wasn't the right color. They had been sued for not having enough of the right color.
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the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.
 Quoting: Panhead


So as long as you discriminate against everyone, you are fine?
 Quoting: SE7EN 30769075


The thing is , they are not discriminating against everyone, only intelligent people. That's discrimination by definition.
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I love the implication.....need an idiot....call a cop
 Quoting: CtYankee


If they didn't require low IQ, Detroit could never hire a cop.
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the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.
 Quoting: Panhead


So as long as you discriminate against everyone, you are fine?
 Quoting: SE7EN 30769075


The thing is , they are not discriminating against everyone, only intelligent people. That's discrimination by definition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1716644


Bingo!
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if you are not smart enough to get on the cop force , your high iq is doing you no good.

a smart person would fail enough answers to get the damn job
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if you are not smart enough to get on the cop force , your high iq is doing you no good.

a smart person would fail enough answers to get the damn job
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31085156


that is lying isn't it?
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looks like they only want the dummies...

the smart ones might get bored and wanna do something else..
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if you are not smart enough to get on the cop force , your high iq is doing you no good.

a smart person would fail enough answers to get the damn job
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31085156


that is lying isn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30903996


You can be the smartest fry guy in the country, you still will not make 175 k with overtime.

you figure it out , you are smrt right >
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Re: Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops
The real reason for the refusal to hire him is simple. Cops are in a position to commit varies crimes without suspicion put on them. A highly intelligent cop(I don't consider an IQ of 125 highly Intelligent,it is just above the norm)can get away with more crimes than a dumber cop can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31185358


125 would be more of a detective imo. Smart enough to solve crimes committed by people with about 9 points or more lower than theirs. Id say the avg chief should be a bought off pawn with an iq somewhere around 140. Make sure the head of the "crime" division knows which crimes really need to be solved and which really "wont".

You don't want an outsider with even "detectective" intelligence coming in to your sweet opperation without proper "vetting". He might just suspect everything isn't what it should be.





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