PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! | |
WindyMind User ID: 955168 United States 12/30/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! If you own anything and can't get insurance...you lose it. It' not a bad system, lotsa folks like it, especially risk takers and those that can afford insurance but would rather spend the money elsewhere. Medical Bankruptcy is unknown in any other western country. I suppose if the plan is to break everybody, this is just one avenue. |
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ISLANDIA User ID: 8828100 United States 12/30/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! Not True The contracted rate is avaiable and at all Hospita based Urgent Cares via law must be dispayed in a clear easily visible location. The menue must detail the 50 most common costs This is true in Florida. Next question State Rep. Richard Corcoran recalled a day last year when a doctor recommended an MRI test for his wife's back pain. When they asked how much it would cost, "nobody knew," Corcoran said. "No one would tell me." They called around, and found that the price of an MRI varied from $350 to $1,200. That experience was a driving force behind the health care price transparency bill that the New Port Richey Republican introduced this year. It was approved overwhelmingly and takes effect on Friday. Urgent care clinics across the state will be required to post on 15-square-foot signs the prices of their 50 most frequently provided services. Those that don't face fines of up to $1,000 a day until they comply. Last Edited by ISLANDIA on 12/30/2012 08:43 PM |
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ISLANDIA User ID: 8828100 United States 12/30/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! And it all just keeping getting worse and worse. The more control and regulation they get, the worse it gets and the louder statists scream for more government to solve the problems. LOL Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432 Correct if it was a true free market sytem then we would be competing for services just like Mc Donalds. At this time Health Care providers can not legally offer prices lower than they would to the Fed Govt. oh and the Federal Gov. sets the price levels get it |
last one I just don't give a fuck User ID: 30472255 United States 12/30/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! I mean, for example, ER visits: Doctor visits: Surgeries: Quoting: Uncle Alyosha 665059 They don't tell you the price until AFTER they're done, without a price list or even an estimate. What legit business does this? WHY are we allowing it? Because, until we stand up, WE'RE ALL SHEEP! And they charge more and more every year! Thank God I had kids several years ago, because now it's just highway robbery. More to come, sheep. It's gonna get worse, dumbass. Trust me. If I'd known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.---Grandpa Rednecks, hillbillies, and cowboys will save the nation---me I dreamed I was drinkin', woke up and I was "we put our faith in maniacs"- Lemmy Kilmister |
OP User ID: 31181447 United States 12/30/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! I mean, for example, ER visits: Doctor visits: Surgeries: Quoting: Uncle Alyosha 665059 They don't tell you the price until AFTER they're done, without a price list or even an estimate. What legit business does this? WHY are we allowing it? Because, until we stand up, WE'RE ALL SHEEP! And they charge more and more every year! Thank God I had kids several years ago, because now it's just highway robbery. More to come, sheep. It's gonna get worse, dumbass. Trust me. 'Dumbass' was a little harsh, you hick. Thanks otherwise for everyone's input. By the way, the last time an ER tried to charge us $1200 to put a bandaid on my son's forehead, I told them to show me why it cost that much. They cancelled the bill. There was no way in hell I was paying this type of extortion...and I won't ever. |
op User ID: 23021807 United States 12/31/2012 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! Socializing medicine would be the ONLY way to make healthcare viable again -- the more socialized the better. I used to think 'socialized' was a dirty word, too. Until I learned that I'd been programmed to think it was a dirty word. Sheeple and easy to program. |
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Uncle Alyosha User ID: 31215815 United States 12/31/2012 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! In case you haven't been keeping up with current events, sunshine, we ain't a republic anymore. Quoting: SlimExponent Uhm. That's my point. And until we stand up and stop letting this happen, we're sheep. ERs and hospitals should be surrounded by activists demanding that this corruption stops. Peaceful protests...which of course will be met by police brutality... Best Wishes, Uncle Alyosha And here's a GLP-appropriate Bible verse (atheists may read, too): God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong. - 1 Corinthians 1:27 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28822130 United States 12/31/2012 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! Medicaid destroyed the health market, created in 1965. So the government is trying to solve and issue created by them with more government! Man, the government is great. |
Uncle Alyosha User ID: 31215815 United States 12/31/2012 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! The reason medical cost went up in the first place is government involvement. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28822130 Medicaid destroyed the health market, created in 1965. So the government is trying to solve and issue created by them with more government! Man, the government is great. I don't entirely agree. Costs went up due to GREED in the private sector. Also, people eat very poorly in the western world - restaurant food is 99% crap, processed foods, obesity. And, did I mention GREED and corruption? Who's ready to protest? Best Wishes, Uncle Alyosha And here's a GLP-appropriate Bible verse (atheists may read, too): God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong. - 1 Corinthians 1:27 |
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Uncle Alyosha User ID: 31227117 United States 12/31/2012 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! Obamacare doesn't fix anything in the "healthcare industry" it perpetuates it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27735673 ObamaCare is a mess. Of course. But any step toward taking control out of the hands of private industry is a good one. FOR PROFIT BUSINESSES SHOULD NEVER HAVE ANY SAY IN A PERSON'S HEALTHCARE DECISIONS!!! - But what have we had - For Profit Businesses own the healtcare system!!! THAT'S the nightmare!!! Best Wishes, Uncle Alyosha And here's a GLP-appropriate Bible verse (atheists may read, too): God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong. - 1 Corinthians 1:27 |
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last one I just don't give a fuck User ID: 30472255 United States 12/31/2012 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! I mean, for example, ER visits: Doctor visits: Surgeries: Quoting: Uncle Alyosha 665059 They don't tell you the price until AFTER they're done, without a price list or even an estimate. What legit business does this? WHY are we allowing it? Because, until we stand up, WE'RE ALL SHEEP! And they charge more and more every year! Thank God I had kids several years ago, because now it's just highway robbery. More to come, sheep. It's gonna get worse, dumbass. Trust me. 'Dumbass' was a little harsh, you hick. Thanks otherwise for everyone's input. By the way, the last time an ER tried to charge us $1200 to put a bandaid on my son's forehead, I told them to show me why it cost that much. They cancelled the bill. There was no way in hell I was paying this type of extortion...and I won't ever. Yes, you will, dumbass. Your days as an indignant libtard in the doctors office are over. You WILL buy insurance(if you have a job)as prescribed by Obamacare mandates, you WILL see a doctor on the authorized list for your area, you WILL pay all copays, you WILL like it, or you WILL be prosecuted. If I'd known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.---Grandpa Rednecks, hillbillies, and cowboys will save the nation---me I dreamed I was drinkin', woke up and I was "we put our faith in maniacs"- Lemmy Kilmister |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30425386 United States 12/31/2012 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! I mean, for example, ER visits: Doctor visits: Surgeries: Quoting: Uncle Alyosha 665059 They don't tell you the price until AFTER they're done, without a price list or even an estimate. What legit business does this? WHY are we allowing it? Because, until we stand up, WE'RE ALL SHEEP! And they charge more and more every year! Thank God I had kids several years ago, because now it's just highway robbery. More to come, sheep. Corrupt about as long as the gov has started regulating it. |
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SilverPatriot User ID: 10518597 United States 12/31/2012 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! Socializing medicine would be the ONLY way to make healthcare viable again -- the more socialized the better. Quoting: op 23021807 I used to think 'socialized' was a dirty word, too. Until I learned that I'd been programmed to think it was a dirty word. Sheeple and easy to program. Yes indeed metered socialized medicine is a real boon to undertakers everywhere just wait until those death panels kick in under obamacare. Now sick babies go on death pathway: Doctor's haunting testimony reveals how children are put on end-of-life plan [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] 130,000 elderly patients killed every year by ‘death pathway’, claims leading UK doctor [link to www.lifesitenews.com] U.K. Professor: Doctors Using ‘Death Pathway’ to Euthanize Patients [link to www.theblaze.com] UK Hospitals Paid To Put Patients on Death “Pathway” [link to www.nationalreview.com] Last Edited by SilverPatriot - Memorial on 12/31/2012 11:15 PM |
op User ID: 31250471 United States 12/31/2012 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! Socializing medicine would be the ONLY way to make healthcare viable again -- the more socialized the better. Quoting: op 23021807 I used to think 'socialized' was a dirty word, too. Until I learned that I'd been programmed to think it was a dirty word. Sheeple and easy to program. Yes indeed metered socialized medicine is a real boon to undertakers everywhere just wait until those death panels kick in under obamacare. Now sick babies go on death pathway: Doctor's haunting testimony reveals how children are put on end-of-life plan [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] 130,000 elderly patients killed every year by ‘death pathway’, claims leading UK doctor [link to www.lifesitenews.com] U.K. Professor: Doctors Using ‘Death Pathway’ to Euthanize Patients [link to www.theblaze.com] UK Hospitals Paid To Put Patients on Death “Pathway” [link to www.nationalreview.com] Let me refer you to post #4: "Fuck health care everyone should just die when they're fucking told to!" Roughly put, but truthful in some ways, and rational in a sick kinda way... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14907108 United States 12/31/2012 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! The thing that sucks is if you make over $14,900(just an estimate) you MUST BUY insurance. Which really fucks over people who are young and make like $15,000-25,000. It's nothing more than a handout to insurance companies. I was on board with the idea until I realized all it would do is require me to buy insurance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14907108 United States 12/31/2012 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! And who cares if they kill old people. If you're like 75+ years and contributing nothing to society and require constant medical attention wtf is the point? Fuck I'm a drain on society and i wish they'd... kill me now. And I'm only 20-something. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States 12/31/2012 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! And it all just keeping getting worse and worse. The more control and regulation they get, the worse it gets and the louder statists scream for more government to solve the problems. LOL Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432 This. "They" created the problem in order to offer the solution. Which will of course, create a plethora of newer, bigger problems that they will be "forced" to solve. Welcome to hell. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31234125 Australia 01/01/2013 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! If you own anything and can't get insurance...you lose it. It' not a bad system, lotsa folks like it, especially risk takers and those that can afford insurance but would rather spend the money elsewhere. Medical Bankruptcy is unknown in any other western country. I suppose if the plan is to break everybody, this is just one avenue. Quoting: WindyMind before 1986 and medicare many judges here dismissed cases where medical practitioners directly took unpaid patient bills to court if the patient had representation who questioned the practitioners hypocratic oath. case dismissed, plaintif to pay court costs, don't like it, don't practice medicine. still to this day even an expensive private doctor will sell debts to a collection agency who will dog you and make threats for years, but won't take it as far court. |
SilverPatriot User ID: 10518597 United States 01/01/2013 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: PROOF: So many of you cry about ObamaCare, but our healthcare has been insanely corrupt for decades!!!! Socializing medicine would be the ONLY way to make healthcare viable again -- the more socialized the better. Quoting: op 23021807 I used to think 'socialized' was a dirty word, too. Until I learned that I'd been programmed to think it was a dirty word. Sheeple and easy to program. Yes indeed metered socialized medicine is a real boon to undertakers everywhere just wait until those death panels kick in under obamacare. Now sick babies go on death pathway: Doctor's haunting testimony reveals how children are put on end-of-life plan [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] 130,000 elderly patients killed every year by ‘death pathway’, claims leading UK doctor [link to www.lifesitenews.com] U.K. Professor: Doctors Using ‘Death Pathway’ to Euthanize Patients [link to www.theblaze.com] UK Hospitals Paid To Put Patients on Death “Pathway” [link to www.nationalreview.com] Let me refer you to post #4: "Fuck health care everyone should just die when they're fucking told to!" Roughly put, but truthful in some ways, and rational in a sick kinda way... I responded to you and if you can rationalize such behavior with another posters words then you fail to grasp to dismal situation obamacare puts us into. |