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Friends,

Have any of you here been following John Lash's career lately ?

I am having doubts about taking John Lash's and Jay Weidner’s material too seriously.

( Basically, I am starting to feel that there is evidence that the present Internet preoccupation with Archons is itself infected with an Archontic view- THAT is the danger I wish to address here. )

The most positively interesting aspect is the Worldview of the Gnostics-

the thing is, John Lash is having to RE- construct this Gnostic view from woefully IN- complete source material.
Then, he proceeds TO BUILD UPON this doubtful material-
then he builds EVEN MORE, adding yet another layer built upon the Un- known when he launches into the Gaian Navigation Experiment- GNE.

One important question-

John says that the Archons have used much Miraculous Simulation in order to deceive those who are NOT Gnostic followers.

The thing is, HOW can we be certain that the Gnostic Material ITSELF was not inspired BY THE ARCHONS THEMSELVES ? !

In other words, what if THE ARCHONS are the ones who supplied information TO THE GNOSTICS ? !

And it is just NOT ENOUGH to make some decree that this is somehow ' impossible ' or inconsistent..... how do you figure ? BASED ON WHAT ?

Moreover, how can we tell whether John Lash's own present interpretations are being heavily influenced by Archontic Entities ? As shared and spread by Jay Weidner.

It seems that such things just get sorted out as John goes along and he just makes decrees as to how things are.....

John says the Gnostic Telestai and the Mystery Schools taught AGAINST HUMAN PROCREATION-

but again, the question is, WHICH Indigenous Human Culture has EVER taken such a view against its own reproduction, continuance through its own physical offspring- from a practical standpoint, HOW could any such Indigenous Earth- Centered Culture have even CONTINUED any length of time ? Unless we must accept that the Telestai Gnsotics were to be taken as a sort of ELITE Group who did not have to have kids of their own while the rest of us had kids to supply the Telestai with students.....

It's getting deeper and deeper.....

Forms of MARRIAGE have been found to be practices IN EVERY TRIBE EVER DISCOVERED- some form of Marriage Culture IS UNIVERSAL !

Therefore, WHAT SOURCE could have been the inspiration for the Gnostic reluctance to Marry ? What sort of ' influence ' was THAT ? !

There is simply NO EVIDENCE showing that humans at one time in the distant past reproduced BY NON- SEXUAL MEANS- to be found neither in Genetics nor in Anthropology.

Sociologically, it appears that the Gnostics could ONLY have been able to function WITHIN A MUCH LARGER IMPERIAL SOCIETY- that is, Gnosticism could ONLY have taken the form of a Sub- Culture, and THAT Sub- Culture could only endure Institutionally as it needed to be embedded within a much larger Hierarchical Control Society- Gnostics could NEVER have survived as a functioning Society INDEPENDENTLY of a larger Elitist CONTROL Society of some sort or other ( the typical Temperate or Mediterranean Mass- Agriculturist Society ) that contained them and yet allowed some degree of localized independence and freedom of action enjoyed by tolerated Sub- Cultures.

Another important question-

I have to wonder-

Just what positive influences did the Gnostic System have in affecting the cultures surrounding them and their presence in the Roman Empire ?

Is their any evidence as to how Gnostic influence may have served to rein- in the excesses of Roman Greed and Lust for Power in the Mediterranean region ?

Any evidence how Gnostic Philosophy worked to rid the Empire of the growing menace of increased slavery and enslavement of anybody or any culture not Roman or Greek ? Or how the Philosophy of the Mystery Schools and their Telestai discouraged slavery practiced wholesale by their contemporaries ?

Is there any evidence how Gnosticism may have been working to expose the rampant Corruption and Materialism and Militarism of the Pre- Christian Roman World ? Any evidence of Gnostic Resistance, Opposition, Rebellion against Power- Mad PAGAN Rome ?

If there IS any such evidence of resistance to Rome's unethical philosophy, was such Gnostic opposition to PAGAN Rome just as great or greater than their opposition to Christian Rome ?

In sum:

Essentially, John Lash’s teaching says that any esoteric views not originating with Gnostics must by default have to come from Archontic influence- the essential point being that any esoteric idea or related supporting paranormal manifestation that is not Earth- Centered must necessarily be Archontic- well Friends, that concept ITSELF is highly suspicious as it may ITSELF be inspired by Archons !

We simply have NO guarantee that the Gnostic Story ITSELF remains entirely UNinfluenced by the Archontic Meddlers.

The way John Lash presents this, it is an ALL OR NOTHING proposition- blind acceptance of ALL Earth- Centered directives, and blind rejection of ALL “ Off- Planet “ influences.

SO SAYS WHOM ? !

BASED UPON WHAT ? !

Ahh- Yes…..Based on Blind Hatred of Christianity and Mono- Theism…..

NOW I get it…..

But again I ask- WHAT IF JOHN LASH AND JAY WEIDNER ARE VERY VERY WRONG ? !

Ahbleza Kevin

P.S.- Besides, HOW do you DEFINE the term “ Off- Planet “ influences anyway- Sophia herself originates from “ Off- Planet “- is John picking and choosing which Off- Planet Deity he likes or dislikes ?…..I know- just take his scholarly word for it.....
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I like Jay's stuff on Kubrick.
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Stick with the Nag Hammadi and discern for yourself.

Take people's interpretations and entertainment with a grain of salt.

I dig your post tho. I just finished reading this book,

The Forbidden Religion
by Jose Aragon

Great read. It's free on amazon for the kindle :)

Carlos Castaneda hits some great points on the matter, but take it all with a grain of salt. I do believe there is much truth being exposed by all of the above, but many misinterpretations and thrown in entertainment talking points.

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The tricky part is no one is completely right IMO...

From my own visionary experiences I am fairly certain archons are a real thing, but just how real are they compared to being manifestations of belief, egregors...

If I had to decide, I'd say they are their own archetypal forces, thought forms...

I never liked it when any of these guys get into such mind numbing specifics, the basic ideas themselves are more than enough to develop spiritual discernment - another peeve, like you mentioned, is giving these archons too much power, that seems to be a common theme, usurping as much as people will give away through belief and assumption.

People are ready to give the whole world away and give credit to archons as masters of holographic prisons, a very extreme and dangerous assumption IMO...

The irony, if archons are real, is that they are a force of nature like anything else, and like anything else, are we going to blame, resent and play victim endlessly?

The logical outcome is that we adapt to the reality of archons like any other part of nature, and learn to live with it, learn to coexist - transcend and overcome as an individual...

So the whole premise of hating on archons and making them into ultimate cosmic bogeymen, goes against what the ultimate lesson of their existence would be in the first place, to learn to make peace with all facets of nature...

That's why these specifics and grand myths just seem to muck up what the original basic concept is aiming to communicate anyway...

Yes it's a mess, in some shape or form, ultimate cosmic adventure, in some shape or form, should we chase our tail and feel victimized? Or use the concept as a spiritual possibility which should ultimately empower us and deepen our empathetic faculties.

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Friends,

Have any of you here been following John Lash's career lately ?

I am having doubts about taking John Lash's and Jay Weidner’s material too seriously.

( Basically, I am starting to feel that there is evidence that the present Internet preoccupation with Archons is itself infected with an Archontic view- THAT is the danger I wish to address here. )

The most positively interesting aspect is the Worldview of the Gnostics-

the thing is, John Lash is having to RE- construct this Gnostic view from woefully IN- complete source material.
Then, he proceeds TO BUILD UPON this doubtful material-
then he builds EVEN MORE, adding yet another layer built upon the Un- known when he launches into the Gaian Navigation Experiment- GNE.

One important question-

John says that the Archons have used much Miraculous Simulation in order to deceive those who are NOT Gnostic followers.

The thing is, HOW can we be certain that the Gnostic Material ITSELF was not inspired BY THE ARCHONS THEMSELVES ? !

In other words, what if THE ARCHONS are the ones who supplied information TO THE GNOSTICS ? !

And it is just NOT ENOUGH to make some decree that this is somehow ' impossible ' or inconsistent..... how do you figure ? BASED ON WHAT ?

Moreover, how can we tell whether John Lash's own present interpretations are being heavily influenced by Archontic Entities ? As shared and spread by Jay Weidner.

It seems that such things just get sorted out as John goes along and he just makes decrees as to how things are.....

John says the Gnostic Telestai and the Mystery Schools taught AGAINST HUMAN PROCREATION-

but again, the question is, WHICH Indigenous Human Culture has EVER taken such a view against its own reproduction, continuance through its own physical offspring- from a practical standpoint, HOW could any such Indigenous Earth- Centered Culture have even CONTINUED any length of time ? Unless we must accept that the Telestai Gnsotics were to be taken as a sort of ELITE Group who did not have to have kids of their own while the rest of us had kids to supply the Telestai with students.....

It's getting deeper and deeper.....

Forms of MARRIAGE have been found to be practices IN EVERY TRIBE EVER DISCOVERED- some form of Marriage Culture IS UNIVERSAL !

Therefore, WHAT SOURCE could have been the inspiration for the Gnostic reluctance to Marry ? What sort of ' influence ' was THAT ? !

There is simply NO EVIDENCE showing that humans at one time in the distant past reproduced BY NON- SEXUAL MEANS- to be found neither in Genetics nor in Anthropology.

Sociologically, it appears that the Gnostics could ONLY have been able to function WITHIN A MUCH LARGER IMPERIAL SOCIETY- that is, Gnosticism could ONLY have taken the form of a Sub- Culture, and THAT Sub- Culture could only endure Institutionally as it needed to be embedded within a much larger Hierarchical Control Society- Gnostics could NEVER have survived as a functioning Society INDEPENDENTLY of a larger Elitist CONTROL Society of some sort or other ( the typical Temperate or Mediterranean Mass- Agriculturist Society ) that contained them and yet allowed some degree of localized independence and freedom of action enjoyed by tolerated Sub- Cultures.

Another important question-

I have to wonder-

Just what positive influences did the Gnostic System have in affecting the cultures surrounding them and their presence in the Roman Empire ?

Is their any evidence as to how Gnostic influence may have served to rein- in the excesses of Roman Greed and Lust for Power in the Mediterranean region ?

Any evidence how Gnostic Philosophy worked to rid the Empire of the growing menace of increased slavery and enslavement of anybody or any culture not Roman or Greek ? Or how the Philosophy of the Mystery Schools and their Telestai discouraged slavery practiced wholesale by their contemporaries ?

Is there any evidence how Gnosticism may have been working to expose the rampant Corruption and Materialism and Militarism of the Pre- Christian Roman World ? Any evidence of Gnostic Resistance, Opposition, Rebellion against Power- Mad PAGAN Rome ?

If there IS any such evidence of resistance to Rome's unethical philosophy, was such Gnostic opposition to PAGAN Rome just as great or greater than their opposition to Christian Rome ?

In sum:

Essentially, John Lash’s teaching says that any esoteric views not originating with Gnostics must by default have to come from Archontic influence- the essential point being that any esoteric idea or related supporting paranormal manifestation that is not Earth- Centered must necessarily be Archontic- well Friends, that concept ITSELF is highly suspicious as it may ITSELF be inspired by Archons !

We simply have NO guarantee that the Gnostic Story ITSELF remains entirely UNinfluenced by the Archontic Meddlers.

The way John Lash presents this, it is an ALL OR NOTHING proposition- blind acceptance of ALL Earth- Centered directives, and blind rejection of ALL “ Off- Planet “ influences.

SO SAYS WHOM ? !

BASED UPON WHAT ? !

Ahh- Yes…..Based on Blind Hatred of Christianity and Mono- Theism…..

NOW I get it…..

But again I ask- WHAT IF JOHN LASH AND JAY WEIDNER ARE VERY VERY WRONG ? !

Ahbleza Kevin

P.S.- Besides, HOW do you DEFINE the term “ Off- Planet “ influences anyway- Sophia herself originates from “ Off- Planet “- is John picking and choosing which Off- Planet Deity he likes or dislikes ?…..I know- just take his scholarly word for it.....
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They are simply promoting the Alien programming and agenda from Operation Paperclip.

Archons are not aliens as they are depicted by these two.
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hf I think John lash is using the GNE, at least in part, as a front for an elaborate scheme to lure women into giving him sex and money. I also think he has a preference for very young women. Just look at how he hooked up with the teenage daughter (she was about 13 and he was approximately 22) of Jack Kerouac and then married her. She was receiving over $100,000/year in royalties, too. Jan Kerouac was in a battle over her fathers estate with his ex wife Stella, contending that Jack's will had been forged and that the estate was to be passed to Jacks sister not Stella. Jan died in 1996 and John Lash was given executive control of Jan's affairs (thanks to the potentially forged will). It appears that he struck a secret deal and got paid off to say that it was Jan's last dying wish that the case be dismissed. Who knows how much he might have received for that? I also believe that the dakinis are actually determined by the different women he is sleeping with. If you listen closely to the things he says you will start to notice how much he talks about beautiful, young, or nearly-virginal women. I believe he is attempting to create a harem and take money and new ideas from these women (if he hasn't done so already) and that he admired Carlos Castenada, who had a harem of women himself. He has fetishized the Kali Warrior and writes about ass sex with them in a more than frisky way. He also refers to Tantra as "the fuck religion". He states that procreation is disgusting, but an antelope being torn apart by a lion is beautiful. He probably just doesn't want to attract women to him that want any children, so he says that to help filter them out. I do have a contact who talked to one of the many women he has seduced and she confirmed much of this. All I know for certain is that there is more going on than he is letting on and that the navigation experiment might be deeper than anyone knows
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hf I think John lash is using the GNE, at least in part, as a front for an elaborate scheme to lure women into giving him sex and money. I also think he has a preference for very young women. Just look at how he hooked up with the teenage daughter (she was about 13 and he was approximately 22) of Jack Kerouac and then married her. She was receiving over $100,000/year in royalties, too. Jan Kerouac was in a battle over her fathers estate with his ex wife Stella, contending that Jack's will had been forged and that the estate was to be passed to Jacks sister not Stella. Jan died in 1996 and John Lash was given executive control of Jan's affairs (thanks to the potentially forged will). It appears that he struck a secret deal and got paid off to say that it was Jan's last dying wish that the case be dismissed. Who knows how much he might have received for that? I also believe that the dakinis are actually determined by the different women he is sleeping with. If you listen closely to the things he says you will start to notice how much he talks about beautiful, young, or nearly-virginal women. I believe he is attempting to create a harem and take money and new ideas from these women (if he hasn't done so already) and that he admired Carlos Castenada, who had a harem of women himself. He has fetishized the Kali Warrior and writes about ass sex with them in a more than frisky way. He also refers to Tantra as "the fuck religion". He states that procreation is disgusting, but an antelope being torn apart by a lion is beautiful. He probably just doesn't want to attract women to him that want any children, so he says that to help filter them out. I do have a contact who talked to one of the many women he has seduced and she confirmed much of this. All I know for certain is that there is more going on than he is letting on and that the navigation experiment might be deeper than anyone knows
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By the way, just so anyone who reads this knows, I am a female who followed his talks for almost a year and considered myself a part of "the crew", but essentially things didn't didn't add up and I woke up. I didn't start piecing this together until a few months ago and I don't know what his game plan is, but I feel certain that he is using the archetype of the trickster with us, he is paying a game with us, and that he is not necessarily who he is claiming to be. He's a fraud, acting as though he were an authority on Gnosticism. He is taking the role of a priest and acting as a divine interpreter and intercept. If John Lash can commune with Sophia or Gaia, then why can't any of us? We are ask here to tell the stories and create the myths and we don't ned him to authorize that for us.
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hf I think John lash is using the GNE, at least in part, as a front for an elaborate scheme to lure women into giving him sex and money. I also think he has a preference for very young women. Just look at how he hooked up with the teenage daughter (she was about 13 and he was approximately 22) of Jack Kerouac and then married her. She was receiving over $100,000/year in royalties, too. Jan Kerouac was in a battle over her fathers estate with his ex wife Stella, contending that Jack's will had been forged and that the estate was to be passed to Jacks sister not Stella. Jan died in 1996 and John Lash was given executive control of Jan's affairs (thanks to the potentially forged will). It appears that he struck a secret deal and got paid off to say that it was Jan's last dying wish that the case be dismissed. Who knows how much he might have received for that? I also believe that the dakinis are actually determined by the different women he is sleeping with. If you listen closely to the things he says you will start to notice how much he talks about beautiful, young, or nearly-virginal women. I believe he is attempting to create a harem and take money and new ideas from these women (if he hasn't done so already) and that he admired Carlos Castenada, who had a harem of women himself. He has fetishized the Kali Warrior and writes about ass sex with them in a more than frisky way. He also refers to Tantra as "the fuck religion". He states that procreation is disgusting, but an antelope being torn apart by a lion is beautiful. He probably just doesn't want to attract women to him that want any children, so he says that to help filter them out. I do have a contact who talked to one of the many women he has seduced and she confirmed much of this. All I know for certain is that there is more going on than he is letting on and that the navigation experiment might be deeper than anyone knows
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By the way, just so anyone who reads this knows, I am a female who followed his talks for almost a year and considered myself a part of "the crew", but essentially things didn't didn't add up and I woke up. I didn't start piecing this together until a few months ago and I don't know what his game plan is, but I feel certain that he is using the archetype of the trickster with us, he is paying a game with us, and that he is not necessarily who he is claiming to be. He's a fraud, acting as though he were an authority on Gnosticism. He is taking the role of a priest and acting as a divine interpreter and intercept. If John Lash can commune with Sophia or Gaia, then why can't any of us? We are ask here to tell the stories and create the myths and we don't ned him to authorize that for us.
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Sorry about the typos. :P was trying to say, we are all here as to tell the stories and create myths and we don't need him to authorize that for us.

hf I think John lash is using the GNE, at least in part, as a front for an elaborate scheme to lure women into giving him sex and money. I also think he has a preference for very young women. Just look at how he hooked up with the teenage daughter (she was about 13 and he was approximately 22) of Jack Kerouac and then married her. She was receiving over $100,000/year in royalties, too. Jan Kerouac was in a battle over her fathers estate with his ex wife Stella, contending that Jack's will had been forged and that the estate was to be passed to Jacks sister not Stella. Jan died in 1996 and John Lash was given executive control of Jan's affairs (thanks to the potentially forged will). It appears that he struck a secret deal and got paid off to say that it was Jan's last dying wish that the case be dismissed. Who knows how much he might have received for that? I also believe that the dakinis are actually determined by the different women he is sleeping with. If you listen closely to the things he says you will start to notice how much he talks about beautiful, young, or nearly-virginal women. I believe he is attempting to create a harem and take money and new ideas from these women (if he hasn't done so already) and that he admired Carlos Castenada, who had a harem of women himself. He has fetishized the Kali Warrior and writes about ass sex with them in a more than frisky way. He also refers to Tantra as "the fuck religion". He states that procreation is disgusting, but an antelope being torn apart by a lion is beautiful. He probably just doesn't want to attract women to him that want any children, so he says that to help filter them out. I do have a contact who talked to one of the many women he has seduced and she confirmed much of this. All I know for certain is that there is more going on than he is letting on and that the navigation experiment might be deeper than anyone knows
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By the way, just so anyone who reads this knows, I am a female who followed his talks for almost a year and
considered myself a part of "the crew", but essentially things didn't didn't add up and I woke up. I didn't start piecing this together until a few months ago and I don't know what his game plan is, but I feel certain that he is using the archetype of the trickster with us, he is paying a game with us, and that he is not necessarily who he is claiming to be. He's a fraud, acting as though he were an authority on Gnosticism. He is taking the role of a priest and acting as a divine interpreter and intercept. If John Lash can commune with Sophia or Gaia, then why can't any of us? We are ask here to tell the stories and create the myths and we don't ned him to authorize that for us.
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As for Jay Weidner:

I think his work on Kubrick is brilliant, especially his essay on 2001: A Space Odyssey.

However, he has also laid some very big eggs. For example, he has written extensively on the so called "philosopher's stone", which, he contends, is urine that has been distilled by a very careful process and then smelted in combination with powdered gold or silver. In addition, he was adamant that in Ridley Scott's KINGDOM OF HEAVEN there was a scene in which Orlando Bloom had 2012 drawn on his forehead in charcoal and that this presaged the fall of Israel in 2012.

In his previous writings he speculated that the philosopher's stone was actually made from morning dew that was captured in a glass container that was never allowed to touch the earth. He also mentions that water naturally stored in a Black Oak tree also has age reversing properties.

His writing vis a vis 2012 concluded that Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) would be the downfall of mankind. The Nicholas Cage movie KNOWING reflects this view, and I believe Jay was a contributor to the project.

I was not aware of the Lash stuff - nice info!
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hf I think John lash is using the GNE, at least in part, as a front for an elaborate scheme to lure women into giving him sex and money. I also think he has a preference for very young women. Just look at how he hooked up with the teenage daughter (she was about 13 and he was approximately 22) of Jack Kerouac and then married her. She was receiving over $100,000/year in royalties, too. Jan Kerouac was in a battle over her fathers estate with his ex wife Stella, contending that Jack's will had been forged and that the estate was to be passed to Jacks sister not Stella. Jan died in 1996 and John Lash was given executive control of Jan's affairs (thanks to the potentially forged will). It appears that he struck a secret deal and got paid off to say that it was Jan's last dying wish that the case be dismissed. Who knows how much he might have received for that? I also believe that the dakinis are actually determined by the different women he is sleeping with. If you listen closely to the things he says you will start to notice how much he talks about beautiful, young, or nearly-virginal women. I believe he is attempting to create a harem and take money and new ideas from these women (if he hasn't done so already) and that he admired Carlos Castenada, who had a harem of women himself. He has fetishized the Kali Warrior and writes about ass sex with them in a more than frisky way. He also refers to Tantra as "the fuck religion". He states that procreation is disgusting, but an antelope being torn apart by a lion is beautiful. He probably just doesn't want to attract women to him that want any children, so he says that to help filter them out. I do have a contact who talked to one of the many women he has seduced and she confirmed much of this. All I know for certain is that there is more going on than he is letting on and that the navigation experiment might be deeper than anyone knows
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By the way, just so anyone who reads this knows, I am a female who followed his talks for almost a year and considered myself a part of "the crew", but essentially things didn't didn't add up and I woke up. I didn't start piecing this together until a few months ago and I don't know what his game plan is, but I feel certain that he is using the archetype of the trickster with us, he is paying a game with us, and that he is not necessarily who he is claiming to be. He's a fraud, acting as though he were an authority on Gnosticism. He is taking the role of a priest and acting as a divine interpreter and intercept. If John Lash can commune with Sophia or Gaia, then why can't any of us? We are ask here to tell the stories and create the myths and we don't ned him to authorize that for us.
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Sorry about the typos. :P was trying to say, we are all here as to tell the stories and create myths and we don't need him to authorize that for us.

hf I think John lash is using the GNE, at least in part, as a front for an elaborate scheme to lure women into giving him sex and money. I also think he has a preference for very young women. Just look at how he hooked up with the teenage daughter (she was about 13 and he was approximately 22) of Jack Kerouac and then married her. She was receiving over $100,000/year in royalties, too. Jan Kerouac was in a battle over her fathers estate with his ex wife Stella, contending that Jack's will had been forged and that the estate was to be passed to Jacks sister not Stella. Jan died in 1996 and John Lash was given executive control of Jan's affairs (thanks to the potentially forged will). It appears that he struck a secret deal and got paid off to say that it was Jan's last dying wish that the case be dismissed. Who knows how much he might have received for that? I also believe that the dakinis are actually determined by the different women he is sleeping with. If you listen closely to the things he says you will start to notice how much he talks about beautiful, young, or nearly-virginal women. I believe he is attempting to create a harem and take money and new ideas from these women (if he hasn't done so already) and that he admired Carlos Castenada, who had a harem of women himself. He has fetishized the Kali Warrior and writes about ass sex with them in a more than frisky way. He also refers to Tantra as "the fuck religion". He states that procreation is disgusting, but an antelope being torn apart by a lion is beautiful. He probably just doesn't want to attract women to him that want any children, so he says that to help filter them out. I do have a contact who talked to one of the many women he has seduced and she confirmed much of this. All I know for certain is that there is more going on than he is letting on and that the navigation experiment might be deeper than anyone knows
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By the way, just so anyone who reads this knows, I am a female who followed his talks for almost a year and
considered myself a part of "the crew", but essentially things didn't didn't add up and I woke up. I didn't start piecing this together until a few months ago and I don't know what his game plan is, but I feel certain that he is using the archetype of the trickster with us, he is paying a game with us, and that he is not necessarily who he is claiming to be. He's a fraud, acting as though he were an authority on Gnosticism. He is taking the role of a priest and acting as a divine interpreter and intercept. If John Lash can commune with Sophia or Gaia, then why can't any of us? We are ask here to tell the stories and create the myths and we don't ned him to authorize that for us.
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Happy to read other women's feeling about this fake Jll. Yes "he is luring women" and men and is surrounding by accomplices, as Stanton Finley, Jill Halloway alias Kundrie (which is two persons in nearly all the crew's mind though she is only and one person...), as examples. Conscious accomplice or not they may be...
I suggest you go there: [link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
Jll seems to have seriously fallen into a trap, or is simply an agent. As he says himself, he's pretending. So what one can await from that, precisely?
He's not an "authority in gnosticim" of course. Just open the NH and it won't take ten minutes for you to figure this out...

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Do not hesitate to comment or add a like, to help spread the words on the abhorent behaviour of such a man as John Lash.
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Happy to read other women's feeling about this fake Jll. Yes "he is luring women" and men and is surrounding by accomplices, as Stanton Finley, Jill Halloway alias Kundrie (which is two persons in nearly all the crew's mind though she is only and one person...), as examples. Conscious accomplice or not they may be...
I suggest you go there: [link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
Jll seems to have seriously fallen into a trap, or is simply an agent. As he says himself, he's pretending. So what one can await from that, precisely?
He's not an "authority in gnosticim" of course. Just open the NH and it won't take ten minutes for you to figure this out...

-- [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] --

Do not hesitate to comment or add a like, to help spread the words on the abhorent behaviour of such a man as John Lash.
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Apparently Godlike is not open to direct to the link above, so in case you are interested to no more about the lash fraud, type John Lamb Lash and the failed warriors in a browser and you should find the facebook link on top.
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04/19/2013 02:55 AM
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Someone mentioned sticking with the Nag Hammadi texts but there is another one that I think is called The Secret Books of the Egyptian Gnostics: An Introduction to the Gnostic Coptic Manuscripts Discovered at Chenoboskion -

and

an alternate Sophia myth at the following link under what if God was the devil: [link to celebritygozzip.blogspot.com] ... I think the Gnostics are talked about after the break and the Sophia myth begins a little more than halfway through or so ...

and as far as whether or not he is an agent of the CIA or whatever that was alluded to previously ... his mentor Castenada was proven to be a liar and it was also proven that he met with a government agent or two according to the gnostic media researcher ...
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I'm going to go back and read this thread through later. Seems like some really thoughtful stuff.

I'm much more aware of Weidner's work, as I usually fall asleep listening to Lash.

With respect to Weidner, I think he has revealed some fascinating truths. And yet, I don't trust him for a minute.

Think about this ... if you were committed to revealing the truth, would you make regular appearances on the show of a guy whose bio is an over-the-top blatant fabrication??? You know who I'm talking about. Claims he was the anchor of a local t.v. news show for many years, but no one can prdouce a picture of him on air? I guess he never anticipated the internet.

Also, has this been said? Weidner's wife is a full on new age freakazoid.
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You could throw Stewart Swerdlow into this mix. Sometimes he is lucid and has interesting, logical thoughts. Other times he starts giving the most outlandish specifics with no justification whatsoever.

He also does not deny having worked with the government.

I noticed once a very small ad in one of those local city weekly tabloid-style papers advertising that Swerdlow was going to be in town giving a seminar. The small size of the ad and lack of details struck me as very stange. It did not seem like a way to promote a seminar for profit. Like another poster said with respect to Lash, it seeemed more like a way to lure in some very impressionable, gullible and perhaps unhinged women and then use his mind tricks to abuse them.
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You can talk to people who have distanced themselves from John Lash here.

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Internet is trying to put the books to the dustbin. That way History would be more difficult to fathom than nowadays.
People like John lamb Lash or others, making their celebrity on myths, are using those non edited books anymore; or they don't need to, most people read new books or not at all. Easy to appear as a genius and abuse women with this false light.
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Maybe it’s time to re-think how we view our military. Do we really need such a big war machine? Who are we fighting if not ourselves? Are they clueless or brazen? Last year, a Kali shockwave was sent throughout our nation via the halls of a Congressional committee room in DC when a certain Secretary of Defense and Ex CIA director said, in so many words, us abusers of power, do not need the approval or support of the American People or Congress to go to war because we have a legal bassi for war if we have international consent or support. Many people think exposing this kind of information is enough but it is not. So with planetary tantra and Kali warrior ethics, perhaps we can kill these abusers of power with magic. Just a thought in case there are any Harry Potter fans out there in the blogosphere. Warrior Party anybody?
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i couldn't be bothered reading all of that but sometimes i listen to rense radio and jay is one of the guests i like to listen to.
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Typical Lashian ...
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jay weidner try to steal shit off the archon 8th level thread and claim it to be his.
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Archons is more PC than Jews.

Jay's kubrick stuff is great though. Check it out.
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His nasty anti-semitism shone through last night on Coast. Calling the Jews rascists because of their scriptural identification as the Chosen People was as Neo-Nazi as one could get.
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jay weidner try to steal shit off the archon 8th level thread and claim it to be his.
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lol