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Obama Administration: We Can and Will Force Christians to Act Against Their Faith

 
DoorBert
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(CNSNews.com) - In a legal argument formally presented in federal court in the case of Hobby Lobby v. Kathleen Sebelius, the Obama administration is claiming that the First Amendment—which expressly denies the government the authority to prohibit the “free exercise” of religion—nonetheless allows it to force Christians to directly violate their religious beliefs even on a matter that involves the life and death of innocent human beings.

Because federal judges—including Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor—have refused to grant an injunction protecting the owners of Hobby Lobby from being forced to act against their Christian faith, those owners will be subject to federal fines of up to $1.3 million per day starting Tuesday for refusing to include abortion-inducing drugs in their employee health plan.

The Obama administration is making a two-fold argument for why it can force Christians to act against their faith in complying with the regulation it has issued under the Obamacare law that requires virtually all health care plans to cover, without co-pay, sterilizations, contraceptives, and abortion-inducing drugs.

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With all attention focused on the so-called fiscal cliff, President Obama is moving America ever closer towards tumbling over the freedom cliff. As a writer for Salon Magazine put it, “liberals let Obama get away with unconstitutional actions.” Here are just a few examples.

Freedom of Speech

Freedom of Religion

Right To Keep and Bear Arms

Due Process

Separation of Powers

[link to frontpagemag.com]
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I am really surprised this has no replies yet - whether or not you're a Christian is irrelevant. This is about a complete trashing of the constitution.
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Was posted and pinned days ago.
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All babies should be aborted but you shouldn't be forced to pay for it if you don't support abortion. I side with Hobby Lobby.
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A) This was hashed out and pinned already.

B) There is nothing in the bible that supports capitalism. The whole crux of the scriptures is to lead you away from the false idolization of money and to the total subservience to the triumvirate.

Jesus definitely said loaning money is bad juju; and loaning of money is a cornerstone of capitalism.

Jesus also preached that the pursuit of money will not get you into heaven; the pursuit of money is goal one in capitalism.

Capitalism and Christianity are at complete odds. There is nothing christ like in operating a capitalist enterprise.
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TO USE THE 666 CALCULATOR SHOWN IN THE FIRST VIDEO

use the keywords: ANTICHRIST CALCULATOR" in any search engine

This is why Jesus Christ will destroy non believers that take the buying and selling mark of the beast.
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Thanks for another pin!
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life/notlife
I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw.

We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.
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Just keep this in mind as everything unfolds......Obama is a constitutional lawyer......
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life/notlife
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With all attention focused on the so-called fiscal cliff, President Obama is moving America ever closer towards tumbling over the freedom cliff. As a writer for Salon Magazine put it, “liberals let Obama get away with unconstitutional actions.” Here are just a few examples.

Freedom of Speech

Freedom of Religion

Right To Keep and Bear Arms

Due Process

Separation of Powers

[link to frontpagemag.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


The
12th-century, Catholic Inquisition for "heretics" rises from out of its ashes at the foot of The White House.

The first to go (to be mobbed and bashed in the streets), in The United States Of America, will be the Born-Again Christians. yup
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"We Can and Will Force Christians to Act Against Their Faith"

So can Budweiser

just sayin

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:life/notlife:
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Generalize much? The debate over abortion revolves around when an organism becomes sentient; not if it is life. Only a very simple or completely indoctrinated would have trouble discerning between those spectrums.
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freedom and religion dont mix
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Freedom of Religion
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The constitution protects what you can practice in the privacy in your own home. It does not protect any attempt to imprint religious doctrine in the marketplace.
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"We Can and Will Force Christians to Act Against Their Faith"

So can Budweiser

just sayin

rockon
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1rof1
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freedom and liberal thinking dont mix
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fixed.
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Freedom of Religion
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The constitution protects what you can practice in the privacy in your own home. It does not protect any attempt to imprint religious doctrine in the marketplace.
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The hell it doesn't.
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Freedom of Religion
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The constitution protects what you can practice in the privacy in your own home. It does not protect any attempt to imprint religious doctrine in the marketplace.
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so why does government fine Christians for having Bible Study in the privacy of their own homes?

What about public parks? Can Christians have Bible Study in the Park, on the beach etcwtf
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IMO they should shut down every store they own in protest and let the people who are out of work as a result make their case for them.
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Freedom of Religion
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The constitution protects what you can practice in the privacy in your own home. It does not protect any attempt to imprint religious doctrine in the marketplace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26820407


so why does government fine Christians for having Bible Study in the privacy of their own homes?

What about public parks? Can Christians have Bible Study in the Park, on the beach etcwtf
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All questions were answered in the 8 page thread from yesterday.
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Re: Obama Administration: We Can and Will Force Christians to Act Against Their Faith
With all attention focused on the so-called fiscal cliff, President Obama is moving America ever closer towards tumbling over the freedom cliff. As a writer for Salon Magazine put it, “liberals let Obama get away with unconstitutional actions.” Here are just a few examples.

Freedom of Speech

Freedom of Religion

Right To Keep and Bear Arms

Due Process

Separation of Powers

[link to frontpagemag.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


This is the REAL cliff we need to worry about! The fiscal cliff is real, but I believe it is covering this more severe assault taking place against our freedoms. We will be worrying about our finances and suddenly find ourselves in a foreign country with no 'good-guy' ally coming to our rescue. This frightens me. The American people are not united enough to stand up and defend their liberties...they just aren't. Everyone is off in their own corner, on their own piece of land in their own home on their own computer. Divide and conquer...
Perpetually dumbfounded.

“I have learned now that while those who speak about one's miseries usually hurt, those who keep silence hurt more." C.S. Lewis

“Sticks and stones may break your bones but words can break hearts.”
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Freedom of Religion
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The constitution protects what you can practice in the privacy in your own home. It does not protect any attempt to imprint religious doctrine in the marketplace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26820407


If a Jewish bus owner is asked by the govt to paint swastikas on his buses, is he "attempting to imprint religious doctrine in the marketplace" by refusing?

If prostitution were legalized, and your massage parlor denied me a "happy ending," should I sue?

And why do you assume that pro-life arguments are faith-based? When I was an atheist long ago, I was pro-life. Are you so ignorant that you assume the two are mutually exclusive?
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Just keep this in mind as everything unfolds......Obama is a constitutional lawyer......
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i heard all that college talk was a lie.

Do any of you wonder if Obombo is playing devil's advocate to try to wakeup the sheepBecause i can hardly believe anyone can actually be THAT freaken, unabridged.
evil ! ! !

Like, man, i mean that sucker is working at it HARD. Overtime w/gusto and venom.
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Freedom of Religion
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The constitution protects what you can practice in the privacy in your own home. It does not protect any attempt to imprint religious doctrine in the marketplace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26820407


If a Jewish bus owner is asked by the govt to paint swastikas on his buses, is he "attempting to imprint religious doctrine in the marketplace" by refusing?

If prostitution were legalized, and your massage parlor denied me a "happy ending," should I sue?

And why do you assume that pro-life arguments are faith-based? When I was an atheist long ago, I was pro-life. Are you so ignorant that you assume the two are mutually exclusive?
 Quoting: kamalayka


i think it goes deeper than you realize:

If itwerenot for Christianity, there would be no such thing as a lie.

Ever see an animal "lie" and another walk up and bite him for it?

There would be no such thing as honesty, truth, trust or theft.

Ever see an animal use profanity and get bit for it?

Ever see a kitty kill a rat or mouse and another kitty walks up to him and lashes him for killing?

There are hundreds of things that exist, that wouldnot exist, were it not for Christianity. Take "Love your neighbor" for example. Helping absolute strangers in need.

And laws wouldnot exist, nor courts, nor judges, nor police.

We would still be running around naked in the jungle, eating with our hands, were itnot for Christianity.

So, now, can you see how oppressive and in your face is in fact, Christianity ! ! ! redface
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It is not religion idiot; it's morality. Have you forgotten?
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And the government does not own the marketplace. Every company has the right to dictate their policies and if you don't like it, leave.
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I just might become religious so I can get out of doing shit I don't want to do.
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