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Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30708042 United States12/31/2012 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Georgetown University constitutional law professor Louis Michael Seidman has just about had it with the focus of his 40 years of academic study. As he writes in the New York Times on Monday, it is the Constitution itself which has allowed for the series of legislative follies that finally resulted in the “fiscal cliff.” Seidman says that it is time for Americans to realize what lawmakers have known since the constitution’s inception – it is okay to ignore it. Quoting: Laura Bow ... Seidman concludes that, though Americans will probably not give up on Constitution any time soon, his recommendation is the best of a series of bad choices facing the nation: "If even this change is impossible, perhaps the dream of a country ruled by “We the people” is impossibly utopian. If so, we have to give up on the claim that we are a self-governing people who can settle our disagreements through mature and tolerant debate. But before abandoning our heritage of self-government, we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance." More at [link to www.mediaite.com] Constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance. :LMFAO:  |
| Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States12/31/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Georgetown University constitutional law professor Louis Michael Seidman has just about had it with the focus of his 40 years of academic study. As he writes in the New York Times on Monday, it is the Constitution itself which has allowed for the series of legislative follies that finally resulted in the “fiscal cliff.” Seidman says that it is time for Americans to realize what lawmakers have known since the constitution’s inception – it is okay to ignore it. Quoting: Laura Bow ... Seidman concludes that, though Americans will probably not give up on Constitution any time soon, his recommendation is the best of a series of bad choices facing the nation: "If even this change is impossible, perhaps the dream of a country ruled by “We the people” is impossibly utopian. If so, we have to give up on the claim that we are a self-governing people who can settle our disagreements through mature and tolerant debate. But before abandoning our heritage of self-government, we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance." More at [link to www.mediaite.com] Constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance.   |
| Anon. User ID: 2223503 United States12/31/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Georgetown University constitutional law professor Louis Michael Seidman has just about had it with the focus of his 40 years of academic study. As he writes in the New York Times on Monday, it is the Constitution itself which has allowed for the series of legislative follies that finally resulted in the “fiscal cliff.” Seidman says that it is time for Americans to realize what lawmakers have known since the constitution’s inception – it is okay to ignore it. Quoting: Laura Bow ... Seidman concludes that, though Americans will probably not give up on Constitution any time soon, his recommendation is the best of a series of bad choices facing the nation: "If even this change is impossible, perhaps the dream of a country ruled by “We the people” is impossibly utopian. If so, we have to give up on the claim that we are a self-governing people who can settle our disagreements through mature and tolerant debate. But before abandoning our heritage of self-government, we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance." More at [link to www.mediaite.com] Another tenured Jewish subversive, Louis Michael Seidman. When will the masses wake-p to their true oppressors? |
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| 071676 User ID: 28709102 United States12/31/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Georgetown University constitutional law professor Louis Michael Seidman has just about had it with the focus of his 40 years of academic study. As he writes in the New York Times on Monday, it is the Constitution itself which has allowed for the series of legislative follies that finally resulted in the “fiscal cliff.” Seidman says that it is time for Americans to realize what lawmakers have known since the constitution’s inception – it is okay to ignore it. Quoting: Laura Bow ... Seidman concludes that, though Americans will probably not give up on Constitution any time soon, his recommendation is the best of a series of bad choices facing the nation: "If even this change is impossible, perhaps the dream of a country ruled by “We the people” is impossibly utopian. If so, we have to give up on the claim that we are a self-governing people who can settle our disagreements through mature and tolerant debate. But before abandoning our heritage of self-government, we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance." More at [link to www.mediaite.com] What would you expect from another liberal law professor? Did you really expect him to cheer about the Constitution? It is the Constitution that is still trying to keep the liberals at bay. By hating it, trying to get away from it, trying to outlaw it, the liberals openly admit that only the Constitution stands in their way of total domination. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27266211 United States12/31/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution The constitution is not for the American citizens. The American citizen has the Articles of Confederation. The Organic Laws that the constitution was founded from. The constitution is only for the Corporate United States. That is their laws to follow and if you are a US Citizen, you are subject to their laws. However, if you are an American free inhabitant then your not subject to their laws. You are under the Natural laws of God and your inalienable rights are recognized by the Article of Confederation. inalienable- can not be taken away or given freely away. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27266211 United States12/31/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Oh here is a test to find out if you are a US Citizen (subject) 1. Do you hold a Birth Certificate? 2. Do you hold a Social Security Card? 3. Do you hold a Drivers License? If you answered yes to one or more of the questions, you are a US Citizen (subject). |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27266211 United States12/31/2012 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Oh here is a test to find out if you are a US Citizen (subject) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27266211 1. Do you hold a Birth Certificate? 2. Do you hold a Social Security Card? 3. Do you hold a Drivers License (see definition below)? If you answered yes to one or more of the questions, you are a US Citizen (subject). Forgot to mention. If you are a US Citizen, you freely gave up your inalienable rights for only mere privileges. license - The permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an illegal act. |
| Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States12/31/2012 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Georgetown University constitutional law professor Louis Michael Seidman has just about had it with the focus of his 40 years of academic study. As he writes in the New York Times on Monday, it is the Constitution itself which has allowed for the series of legislative follies that finally resulted in the “fiscal cliff.” Seidman says that it is time for Americans to realize what lawmakers have known since the constitution’s inception – it is okay to ignore it. Quoting: Laura Bow ... Seidman concludes that, though Americans will probably not give up on Constitution any time soon, his recommendation is the best of a series of bad choices facing the nation: "If even this change is impossible, perhaps the dream of a country ruled by “We the people” is impossibly utopian. If so, we have to give up on the claim that we are a self-governing people who can settle our disagreements through mature and tolerant debate. But before abandoning our heritage of self-government, we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance." More at [link to www.mediaite.com] What would you expect from another liberal law professor? Did you really expect him to cheer about the Constitution? It is the Constitution that is still trying to keep the liberals at bay. By hating it, trying to get away from it, trying to outlaw it, the liberals openly admit that only the Constitution stands in their way of total domination. Well, it IS most ironic that it comes from a constitutional law professor... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27266211 United States12/31/2012 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution So yes if you take the constitution away you dissolve the Charter of the United States Corporation. Leaving only these united States of America. Yes we would then again be a free country. Out from the tyranny of the Bankers and the Corporate United States. The Constitution was only made to collect money to pay the debts owed back from the Revolutionary war and the Civil war for restitution via the Treaty of Paris. The Constitution placed all (free inhabitants) People as the sureties for the restitution of the debts. (surety - An individual who undertakes an obligation to pay a sum of money or to perform some duty or promise for another in the event that person fails to act.) Why do you think you sign under your NAME on the SS card? You are the Underwriter for that debtor. |
| 071676 User ID: 28709102 United States12/31/2012 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Georgetown University constitutional law professor Louis Michael Seidman has just about had it with the focus of his 40 years of academic study. As he writes in the New York Times on Monday, it is the Constitution itself which has allowed for the series of legislative follies that finally resulted in the “fiscal cliff.” Seidman says that it is time for Americans to realize what lawmakers have known since the constitution’s inception – it is okay to ignore it. Quoting: Laura Bow ... Seidman concludes that, though Americans will probably not give up on Constitution any time soon, his recommendation is the best of a series of bad choices facing the nation: "If even this change is impossible, perhaps the dream of a country ruled by “We the people” is impossibly utopian. If so, we have to give up on the claim that we are a self-governing people who can settle our disagreements through mature and tolerant debate. But before abandoning our heritage of self-government, we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance." More at [link to www.mediaite.com] What would you expect from another liberal law professor? Did you really expect him to cheer about the Constitution? It is the Constitution that is still trying to keep the liberals at bay. By hating it, trying to get away from it, trying to outlaw it, the liberals openly admit that only the Constitution stands in their way of total domination. Well, it IS most ironic that it comes from a constitutional law professor... Not really. It is what you should expect. Only a liberal law professor would try to destroy the Constitution. A conservative law professor would say that the law is the law. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31221478 United States12/31/2012 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Georgetown University constitutional law professor Louis Michael Seidman has just about had it with the focus of his 40 years of academic study. As he writes in the New York Times on Monday, it is the Constitution itself which has allowed for the series of legislative follies that finally resulted in the “fiscal cliff.” Seidman says that it is time for Americans to realize what lawmakers have known since the constitution’s inception – it is okay to ignore it. Quoting: Laura Bow ... Seidman concludes that, though Americans will probably not give up on Constitution any time soon, his recommendation is the best of a series of bad choices facing the nation: "If even this change is impossible, perhaps the dream of a country ruled by “We the people” is impossibly utopian. If so, we have to give up on the claim that we are a self-governing people who can settle our disagreements through mature and tolerant debate. But before abandoning our heritage of self-government, we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance." More at [link to www.mediaite.com] Constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance. :LMFAO: Pure doublespeak. 1984 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30670070 United States12/31/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Oh here is a test to find out if you are a US Citizen (subject) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27266211 1. Do you hold a Birth Certificate? 2. Do you hold a Social Security Card? 3. Do you hold a Drivers License (see definition below)? If you answered yes to one or more of the questions, you are a US Citizen (subject). Forgot to mention. If you are a US Citizen, you freely gave up your inalienable rights for only mere privileges. license - The permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an illegal act. I don't recall making a lot of free legally-binding choices around the time my birth certificate was written. |
| Zedakah User ID: 25719696 United States12/31/2012 01:51 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Not really. It is what you should expect. Only a liberal law professor would try to destroy the Constitution. A conservative law professor would say that the law is the law. Quoting: 071676 My father is a law professor, and I've heard the statement "the law is the law" more times than I can count (or similar renditions of that statement). |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30670070 United States12/31/2012 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Oh here is a test to find out if you are a US Citizen (subject) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27266211 1. Do you hold a Birth Certificate? 2. Do you hold a Social Security Card? 3. Do you hold a Drivers License (see definition below)? If you answered yes to one or more of the questions, you are a US Citizen (subject). Forgot to mention. If you are a US Citizen, you freely gave up your inalienable rights for only mere privileges. license - The permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an illegal act. I don't recall making a lot of free legally-binding choices around the time my birth certificate was written. Actually the same applies for the time my Social Security card was issued (I was at most a few years old) and my initial Driver's License (I was 16, below the age of majority.) So all those things were done without my legally binding consent, I guess it's all reversible now? Doesn't practically everyone have a Birth Certificate? I mean, I'm sure even Obama has one, from somewhere like Kenya or Indonesia. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30670070 United States12/31/2012 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution I dropped out of college. Because I'm more concerned with facts than leftist agendas. You can learn more studying on your own than in a classroom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19453323 You could have always have taken a technical major. Not a lot of leftist agendas in the engineering curriculum. If you elect a major where you spend 4 years studying some liberal religion like Sociology, what do you expect but indoctrination. But it's easier to pass! |
| Skin Suit User ID: 22870849 United States12/31/2012 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution I dropped out of college. Because I'm more concerned with facts than leftist agendas. You can learn more studying on your own than in a classroom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19453323 You could have always have taken a technical major. Not a lot of leftist agendas in the engineering curriculum. If you elect a major where you spend 4 years studying some liberal religion like Sociology, what do you expect but indoctrination. But it's easier to pass! yeah major in chemistry. at least you know how aldehydes or ketones will react under certain circumstances. no politics. plus our company has a shortage of finding of chem engineers and chemists. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31139112 United States12/31/2012 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution He's right. The US constitution is an anachronism which has no bearing on reality. The only way it survives is the current political regime installs Supreme Court judges that "reinterpret" the constitution to suit their agenda. The US constitution is a terribly flawed and outdated document. We ought to free ourselves from the chains of the past and do what's best TODAY; not what was best 250 years ago. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28938817 United States12/31/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution Georgetown University constitutional law professor Louis Michael Seidman has just about had it with the focus of his 40 years of academic study. As he writes in the New York Times on Monday, it is the Constitution itself which has allowed for the series of legislative follies that finally resulted in the “fiscal cliff.” Seidman says that it is time for Americans to realize what lawmakers have known since the constitution’s inception – it is okay to ignore it. Quoting: Laura Bow ... Seidman concludes that, though Americans will probably not give up on Constitution any time soon, his recommendation is the best of a series of bad choices facing the nation: "If even this change is impossible, perhaps the dream of a country ruled by “We the people” is impossibly utopian. If so, we have to give up on the claim that we are a self-governing people who can settle our disagreements through mature and tolerant debate. But before abandoning our heritage of self-government, we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance." More at [link to www.mediaite.com] This guy is a dually American Israeli citizen. Surprised he's a traitor to the US, bad mouthing our founding documents, therefore the founding fathers, and an enemy of the constitution? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31172622 United Kingdom12/31/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution He's right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31139112 The US constitution is an anachronism which has no bearing on reality. The only way it survives is the current political regime installs Supreme Court judges that "reinterpret" the constitution to suit their agenda. The US constitution is a terribly flawed and outdated document. We ought to free ourselves from the chains of the past and do what's best TODAY; not what was best 250 years ago. yes, that damned free speech! outrageous! |
| Lord Teapot User ID: 16648993 United States12/31/2012 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution We ought to free ourselves from the chains of the past and do what's best TODAY; not what was best 250 years ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31139112 what you really mean to say is free ourselves of the liberty of the past, and embrace the chains of the future. no thanks, but you have fun living in that slave-society. Lord Teapot |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31139112 United States12/31/2012 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Constitutional law professor says ‘Give Up’ On The ‘Archaic, Idiosyncratic’ And ‘Evil’ Constitution He's right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31139112 The US constitution is an anachronism which has no bearing on reality. The only way it survives is the current political regime installs Supreme Court judges that "reinterpret" the constitution to suit their agenda. The US constitution is a terribly flawed and outdated document. We ought to free ourselves from the chains of the past and do what's best TODAY; not what was best 250 years ago. yes, that damned free speech! outrageous! Free speech? Really? Free speech zones, bullying, libel, slander, state secrets, assault on whistleblowers, homosexuals claiming nudity is free speech, threats of violence.... As you can see, this ideal of "free speech" does not apply to the reality we live in. We need a new constitution. |
