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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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Heads up folks!!!

Got a real bad feeling about the upcoming days!!!

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Heads up folks!!!

Got a real bad feeling about the upcoming days!!!

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I agree. Bad, bad feeling. This crap ain't over by a long shot.
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Israel ready to act on Syria weapons, warns Netanyahu

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Israel ready to act on Syria weapons, warns Netanyahu

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Soon, very soon!!!

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Evacuating 30 miles radius.....2 anhydrous hydrogen tanks on fire
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Video of West explosion

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DA_Banks: Shit. Might not be an accident.RT @Asher_Wolf: Live-scanner: "Use caution. There are possible other devices in the area." #Waco #Texas #West
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"Other" devices? I just popped in to make sure the rest of the world is still where it should be. Youngest son is in the tornado zone tonight, daughter is just far enough away from the blast. AND, all that is just what's on here. I won't talk about the local shit.

What other devices? I've been trying to keep up with the weather thread and transcribe the highlights for Cowgirl. What did I miss?
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Israel ready to act on Syria weapons, warns Netanyahu

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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Soon, very soon!!!

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bump
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Israel ready to act on Syria weapons, warns Netanyahu

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Soon, very soon!!!

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Show em Bibi!

Shalom Y'srael!

Y'varekh'kha ADONAI v'yishmerekha.
Ya'er ADONAI panav eleikha vichunekka.
Yissa ADONAI panav eleikha v'yasem l'kha shalom.

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Israel ready to act on Syria weapons, warns Netanyahu

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Soon, very soon!!!

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Show em Bibi!

Shalom Y'srael!

Y'varekh'kha ADONAI v'yishmerekha.
Ya'er ADONAI panav eleikha vichunekka.
Yissa ADONAI panav eleikha v'yasem l'kha shalom.

hf
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bump bump bump
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DA_Banks: Shit. Might not be an accident.RT @Asher_Wolf: Live-scanner: "Use caution. There are possible other devices in the area." #Waco #Texas #West
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"Other" devices? I just popped in to make sure the rest of the world is still where it should be. Youngest son is in the tornado zone tonight, daughter is just far enough away from the blast. AND, all that is just what's on here. I won't talk about the local shit.

What other devices? I've been trying to keep up with the weather thread and transcribe the highlights for Cowgirl. What did I miss?
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


hfhf

Prayers for you and yours, TB.
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Nathan J Hunt ‏@ISNJH 1m

FAA reportedly issues No Fly Zone around W Texas FAA: No fly zone in effect 3 miles around West and below 3,000 feet. only EMS aircraft.
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Here is some interesting intel...the Saudi national that was released by the FBI as not being connected to the bombing will be deported next Tuesday for "national security reasons".
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what does that mean?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


I don't have a clue...but there is more, just can't really say more. The "more" doesn't help solve the riddle.
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There is also this...WASHINGTON - U.S. President Barack Obama met with Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal at the White House on Wednesday...coincidence?
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Damn!
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DA_Banks: Shit. Might not be an accident.RT @Asher_Wolf: Live-scanner: "Use caution. There are possible other devices in the area." #Waco #Texas #West
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"Other" devices? I just popped in to make sure the rest of the world is still where it should be. Youngest son is in the tornado zone tonight, daughter is just far enough away from the blast. AND, all that is just what's on here. I won't talk about the local shit.

What other devices? I've been trying to keep up with the weather thread and transcribe the highlights for Cowgirl. What did I miss?
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


hfhf

Prayers for you and yours, TB.
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Thx, Swin. I saw your question on one of the explosion threads about the drought. I was flying between them and the weather thread, so I could let Cowgirl know what was happening in West. I'm not anywhere near the explosion. It was confusing for a bit. The town's name is West, but it's in Central Texas. I live in the region west Texas. AND...the whole state has been in a 2 year drought. Does that help?
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DA_Banks: Shit. Might not be an accident.RT @Asher_Wolf: Live-scanner: "Use caution. There are possible other devices in the area." #Waco #Texas #West
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"Other" devices? I just popped in to make sure the rest of the world is still where it should be. Youngest son is in the tornado zone tonight, daughter is just far enough away from the blast. AND, all that is just what's on here. I won't talk about the local shit.

What other devices? I've been trying to keep up with the weather thread and transcribe the highlights for Cowgirl. What did I miss?
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Dang TB, you can't seem to catch a break lately. Stay safe! hf
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Dang...now they're saying another fertilizer plant is in danger of exploding.
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DA_Banks: Shit. Might not be an accident.RT @Asher_Wolf: Live-scanner: "Use caution. There are possible other devices in the area." #Waco #Texas #West
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"Other" devices? I just popped in to make sure the rest of the world is still where it should be. Youngest son is in the tornado zone tonight, daughter is just far enough away from the blast. AND, all that is just what's on here. I won't talk about the local shit.

What other devices? I've been trying to keep up with the weather thread and transcribe the highlights for Cowgirl. What did I miss?
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


hfhf

Prayers for you and yours, TB.
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Thx, Swin. I saw your question on one of the explosion threads about the drought. I was flying between them and the weather thread, so I could let Cowgirl know what was happening in West. I'm not anywhere near the explosion. It was confusing for a bit. The town's name is West, but it's in Central Texas. I live in the region west Texas. AND...the whole state has been in a 2 year drought. Does that help?
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It does -- missed the comma between West and Texas. Probably the only places in Texas I could locate on a map would be Houston and San Antonio. Glad you're nowhere near.
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From another thread on GLP. Just posted!

Unusually High Number of Navy Jets Scrambling In San Diego
I live on Coronado Island (im not military) and hear the jets taking off and landing every single day from the carriers stationed here as well as from North Island NAS, all of which are within one mile from my home.

But i kid you not when I say that I have NEVER heard this much activity this late at night. Jets (since Navy I assume theyre f-18s, helicopters, you name it). This is where Seal Team 6 is stationed. This is where all the SEALs train.
WTF is going on?

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From another thread on GLP. Just posted!

Unusually High Number of Navy Jets Scrambling In San Diego
I live on Coronado Island (im not military) and hear the jets taking off and landing every single day from the carriers stationed here as well as from North Island NAS, all of which are within one mile from my home.

But i kid you not when I say that I have NEVER heard this much activity this late at night. Jets (since Navy I assume theyre f-18s, helicopters, you name it). This is where Seal Team 6 is stationed. This is where all the SEALs train.
WTF is going on?

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The beast grows......
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From another thread on GLP. Just posted!

Unusually High Number of Navy Jets Scrambling In San Diego
I live on Coronado Island (im not military) and hear the jets taking off and landing every single day from the carriers stationed here as well as from North Island NAS, all of which are within one mile from my home.

But i kid you not when I say that I have NEVER heard this much activity this late at night. Jets (since Navy I assume theyre f-18s, helicopters, you name it). This is where Seal Team 6 is stationed. This is where all the SEALs train.
WTF is going on?

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The beast grows......
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Bump....but 6 IS NOT stationed at coronado...
But bump for activity and follow up.
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WOAH! Check this out:

News Headlines from April 17, 1947

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From another thread on GLP. Just posted!

Unusually High Number of Navy Jets Scrambling In San Diego
I live on Coronado Island (im not military) and hear the jets taking off and landing every single day from the carriers stationed here as well as from North Island NAS, all of which are within one mile from my home.

But i kid you not when I say that I have NEVER heard this much activity this late at night. Jets (since Navy I assume theyre f-18s, helicopters, you name it). This is where Seal Team 6 is stationed. This is where all the SEALs train.
WTF is going on?

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The beast grows......
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Bump....but 6 IS NOT stationed at coronado...
But bump for activity and follow up.
 Quoting: JW 2305


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Heads up folks!!!

Got a real bad feeling about the upcoming days!!!

bump
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A word of caution to neophyte Martini drinkers: When taken to excess, this perfectly civilized drink can lead directly to uncivilized behavior.
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West Mayor Tommy Muska said at a news conference however, that he doesn't yet know how many people were hurt or killed in the blast explosion, but said four or five firefighters are unaccounted for.
FIRST FATALITY ESTIMATE FROM EMS, Some 60-70 dead (unconfirmed)
CHICAGO: Some 60 to 70 people were killed and hundreds were injured by an explosion at a fertilizer plant outside Waco, Texas, local media reported, citing the local emergency manager.

The report could not be immediately verified by AFP, but KWTX television cited West Emergency Management Services Director George Smith as confirming the death toll.

[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com


WHY ARE SO MANY FIREFIGHTER DEAD AT THE SEEN,WHY DID THEY RUSH INTO THE PLANT FIRE????
BECAUSE OF THIS:

West fertilizer plant said in report that it presented no risk

The fertilizer plant that exploded Wednesday night in West, Texas, reported to the Environmental Protection Agency and local public safety officials that it presented no risk of fire or explosion, documents show...

[link to www.dallasnews.com]
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video of texas explosion

Thread: Projectile Coming in from the left at Waco Explosion!!!!



also heavy winds are spreading fire, can't get to many structures, expect death rate to raise

PRAY FOR TEXAS
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West Mayor Tommy Muska said at a news conference however, that he doesn't yet know how many people were hurt or killed in the blast explosion, but said four or five firefighters are unaccounted for.
FIRST FATALITY ESTIMATE FROM EMS, Some 60-70 dead (unconfirmed)
CHICAGO: Some 60 to 70 people were killed and hundreds were injured by an explosion at a fertilizer plant outside Waco, Texas, local media reported, citing the local emergency manager.

The report could not be immediately verified by AFP, but KWTX television cited West Emergency Management Services Director George Smith as confirming the death toll.

[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com


WHY ARE SO MANY FIREFIGHTER DEAD AT THE SEEN,WHY DID THEY RUSH INTO THE PLANT FIRE????
BECAUSE OF THIS:

West fertilizer plant said in report that it presented no risk

The fertilizer plant that exploded Wednesday night in West, Texas, reported to the Environmental Protection Agency and local public safety officials that it presented no risk of fire or explosion, documents show...

[link to www.dallasnews.com]
...
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Probably true, BUT, fire department inspectors are REQUIRED to inspect all facilities annually to ensure the company is adhering to fire safety regulations.
It's a town of only 2800 people. They should have known what was in that place.
Not taking up for anybody...just stating the obvious.
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West Mayor Tommy Muska said at a news conference however, that he doesn't yet know how many people were hurt or killed in the blast explosion, but said four or five firefighters are unaccounted for.
FIRST FATALITY ESTIMATE FROM EMS, Some 60-70 dead (unconfirmed)
CHICAGO: Some 60 to 70 people were killed and hundreds were injured by an explosion at a fertilizer plant outside Waco, Texas, local media reported, citing the local emergency manager.

The report could not be immediately verified by AFP, but KWTX television cited West Emergency Management Services Director George Smith as confirming the death toll.

[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com


WHY ARE SO MANY FIREFIGHTER DEAD AT THE SEEN,WHY DID THEY RUSH INTO THE PLANT FIRE????
BECAUSE OF THIS:

West fertilizer plant said in report that it presented no risk

The fertilizer plant that exploded Wednesday night in West, Texas, reported to the Environmental Protection Agency and local public safety officials that it presented no risk of fire or explosion, documents show...

[link to www.dallasnews.com]
...
See More
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Probably true, BUT, fire department inspectors are REQUIRED to inspect all facilities annually to ensure the company is adhering to fire safety regulations.
It's a town of only 2800 people. They should have known what was in that place.
Not taking up for anybody...just stating the obvious.
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1o volunteer firefighters, they weren't ready for this

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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1o volunteer firefighters, they weren't ready for this

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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I feel for them. They risked and lost their lives doing something noble. But I can't help but think that they might have known what was in there. Maybe that's WHY they went in so fast...they knew how dangerous it was and wanted to get their friends out. It's a small town. Everybody knows everybody else. The people that worked in the plant probably lived there too. Believe me, I know. I live in a town just about the same size. Like the gal said in Doc Hollywood: "You can't poop in this town without everybody knowing what color it was." An apt description of small town life.

Either way, they died trying to help others. It's their courage and honor that should be focused on right now. If we start out screaming conspiracy from the start, their names and deeds just get buried in the mire.
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1o volunteer firefighters, they weren't ready for this

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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I feel for them. They risked and lost their lives doing something noble. But I can't help but think that they might have known what was in there. Maybe that's WHY they went in so fast...they knew how dangerous it was and wanted to get their friends out. It's a small town. Everybody knows everybody else. The people that worked in the plant probably lived there too. Believe me, I know. I live in a town just about the same size. Like the gal said in Doc Hollywood: "You can't poop in this town without everybody knowing what color it was." An apt description of small town life.

Either way, they died trying to help others. It's their courage and honor that should be focused on right now. If we start out screaming conspiracy from the start, their names and deeds just get buried in the mire.
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Thank you for saying that, J4J. I don't live anywhere near West, but I live outside of small towns just like it. All of our towns have plants like this one and some have even worse chemicals. There's even an ethanol plant just up the road from my house.

We've worked closely with our town's FD for several years, learning search and rescue and rehabing the FFs during our many wildfires. They're good people and well trained. There are too many people on here casting them in a bad light. Since the plant was smack in the middle of town, those FFs KNEW how to fight that fire. If they didn't, then heads will roll over this. I come from a long line of volunteer FFs, they are NOT the idiots that people on the other threads are making them out to be.

I'm not buying the missile theory. The pics look like a secondary explosion to me. The facts will take a long time to come out, but they WILL come out. It's a small town, can't keep that stuff secret for long.

Sometimes an accident is just that, an accident. It would take a lot of variables to come together, but it's happened before and could have happened now. The only thing that makes me keep an open mind on this is the timing. It was too convenient. I'm honestly leaning more to a possible arson, but that's just a gut feeling.

*edit* Maybe I believe that, because I need to. For now.

Last Edited by Texan Buckeye on 04/18/2013 04:23 PM
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I'm w/ TB - the missile theory is ridiculous

I'm just don't know what started the fire.

FBI just released photos of guy in white hat & guy in dark hat. White guys, dark hair, big noses...

Could be Arab... Maybe not.


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