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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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In chaotic eastern Syria, tribes and smugglers take hold of oil supplies

Deir al-Zor is critical to Syrian oil output, which has more than halved in the past two years of fighting. The hijacking of the oil industry by tribes complicates Western efforts to help the Syrian opposition fund itself and will make any future reconstruction even more difficult.



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Libya is falling apart...more than usual.

I've updated my thread - Thread: UPDATE - Libya Taken Over by Benghazi Attackers - Political Isolation is "Legal Coup" - Plotters Caught on Tape

Five incredibly unsuccessful suicide bombers in Mali were only able to wound 2 soldiers YIKES

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"Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood rallies against Israel"

This is a muslim warfare against their own people, aim is to rally and submit their kin to the official dictator moslem rulers line and recruit youngsters in their own population in order to die in the next war.

Egypt is paid by the US. Moslim Brotherhood is paid by the US.

The US is helping and giving military aid and financial support to the moslim brotherhood, known and kin and affiliated to Hamas, known and affiliated to al qaeda, known to be our the west enemies.

I personnally cannot stand the US double feature anymore. It might have served at a time, but in times like these you need to be able to identify your enemy.

If you do not even know who is your enemy, you will never win the fight.

NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER.
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Libya is falling apart...more than usual.

I've updated my thread - Thread: UPDATE - Libya Taken Over by Benghazi Attackers - Political Isolation is "Legal Coup" - Plotters Caught on Tape

Five incredibly unsuccessful suicide bombers in Mali were only able to wound 2 soldiers YIKES

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Of course it will fall apart. There are tribes and traditions, and there is islam. Islam is not a religion, it is a nazi concept. And it is applied in Lybia.

Who is applying the law in Lybia ? Who are the people behind it ?

Thruth is that there are many local clans, and a winning global al quaida movement infesting like a cancer this country.
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Libya is falling apart...more than usual.

I've updated my thread - Thread: UPDATE - Libya Taken Over by Benghazi Attackers - Political Isolation is "Legal Coup" - Plotters Caught on Tape

Five incredibly unsuccessful suicide bombers in Mali were only able to wound 2 soldiers YIKES

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Of course it will fall apart. There are tribes and traditions, and there is islam. Islam is not a religion, it is a nazi concept. And it is applied in Lybia.

Who is applying the law in Lybia ? Who are the people behind it ?

Thruth is that there are many local clans, and a winning global al quaida movement infesting like a cancer this country.
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Truth is, that people in that part of the earth, are attached to a pedophile warrior philosophy, who claim the religion, in my eyes they are part of the devil.

And all those arab inventions of spring, is in reallity a move to descent deeper into their hole together with their man, women, children an mouse and rats, into their heavan called here hell.

Ouups the boston bombers were moslim
Ouups all the other ones were moslim,too.

Ouups I remember the GI who killed his comrades. Fort where ? 12 killed ? And why ? Because he went moslim.

Is there a pattern ?

Is, would it be possible, that turning into a moslim, makes you a "potential" terrorist, like at the time, a commited nazi, would be in war and in his duty of war would just to kill you ?

Could it be, that we are just reading the signs on the wall, and we philosoph, but we do not understand the message at this fucking wall ?????????????????
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Nasrallah Threatens Golan Front With Israel

For both Hezbollah and Israel, the next war will tolerate no tie; there should be a clear winner. Israel, according to observers, is at full strength.... What about Hezbollah?

On May 9, the group's chief made his first comments on the Israeli strikes on Damascus, saying, "Israel seeks to totally remove Syria from the equation in order to besiege the resistance in Lebanon and Palestine." Nasrallah pointed out that Israel bombed Syria to say that backing the resistance and supplying it with military aid will lead to the downfall of the regime.

According to Nasrallah, the Syrian strategic response was that of "launching the popular-resistance campaign in the Golan Heights" and Damascus' decision to supply Hezbollah with "game-changing" arms. What does this mean? For years, Israel has been speculating that Hezbollah has between 40,000 and 60,000 rockets. The number was never confirmed by Hezbollah, but many know that from 2006 up to now, the group has been stuffing its depots with all kinds of weapons...

In any new war, it's clear that Hezbollah's strategy will differ. In his Feb. 17, 2011, speech Nasrallah said, "In the last war, there were limited rockets in the north. In the next war they'll be aiming for all of Israel."...

Read more: [link to www.al-monitor.com]
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Nasrallah Threatens Golan Front With Israel

For both Hezbollah and Israel, the next war will tolerate no tie; there should be a clear winner. Israel, according to observers, is at full strength.... What about Hezbollah?

On May 9, the group's chief made his first comments on the Israeli strikes on Damascus, saying, "Israel seeks to totally remove Syria from the equation in order to besiege the resistance in Lebanon and Palestine." Nasrallah pointed out that Israel bombed Syria to say that backing the resistance and supplying it with military aid will lead to the downfall of the regime.

According to Nasrallah, the Syrian strategic response was that of "launching the popular-resistance campaign in the Golan Heights" and Damascus' decision to supply Hezbollah with "game-changing" arms. What does this mean? For years, Israel has been speculating that Hezbollah has between 40,000 and 60,000 rockets. The number was never confirmed by Hezbollah, but many know that from 2006 up to now, the group has been stuffing its depots with all kinds of weapons...

In any new war, it's clear that Hezbollah's strategy will differ. In his Feb. 17, 2011, speech Nasrallah said, "In the last war, there were limited rockets in the north. In the next war they'll be aiming for all of Israel."...

Read more: [link to www.al-monitor.com]
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The next "Hot" war is rapidly approaching on the northern border!!!

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Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault.

That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya.

So, what did the President know and what did the President do?

No one seems to know. Or no one is telling.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
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Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault.

That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya.

So, what did the President know and what did the President do?

No one seems to know. Or no one is telling.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
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Not surprising,to say the least. Thanks Gerry.

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Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault.

That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya.

So, what did the President know and what did the President do?

No one seems to know. Or no one is telling.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: Gerry52


Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens.

SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA.

If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died?

Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief-

Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency.

Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th.

I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too.
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Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault.

That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya.

So, what did the President know and what did the President do?

No one seems to know. Or no one is telling.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: Gerry52


Ham was told to standby, while waiting he began emergency mission proceedings sending guys on their way. He had one call which ended in a heated disagreement and very shortly after that call another call came, then had the guys turn around, ending the mission, ~standing down~
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Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault.

That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya.

So, what did the President know and what did the President do?

No one seems to know. Or no one is telling.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
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hopefully it means his ass is on the way out, this guy has been nothing but bad news since he came onto the scene.
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Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault.

That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya.

So, what did the President know and what did the President do?

No one seems to know. Or no one is telling.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: Gerry52


hopefully it means his ass is on the way out, this guy has been nothing but bad news since he came onto the scene.
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bump bump bump
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Magnitude M 6.3
Region SOUTHERN IRAN
Date time 2013-05-11 02:08:19.0 UTC
Location 26.85 N ; 57.98 E
Depth 80 km
Distances 363 km N of Muscat, Oman / pop: 797,000 / local time: 06:08:19.0 2013-05-11
172 km E of Bandar ‘Abbās, Iran / pop: 352,173 / local time: 06:38:19.0 2013-05-11
95 km E of Mīnāb, Iran / pop: 70,790 / local time: 06:38:19.0 2013-05-11



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Magnitude M 6.3
Region SOUTHERN IRAN
Date time 2013-05-11 02:08:19.0 UTC
Location 26.85 N ; 57.98 E
Depth 80 km
Distances 363 km N of Muscat, Oman / pop: 797,000 / local time: 06:08:19.0 2013-05-11
172 km E of Bandar ‘Abbās, Iran / pop: 352,173 / local time: 06:38:19.0 2013-05-11
95 km E of Mīnāb, Iran / pop: 70,790 / local time: 06:38:19.0 2013-05-11



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G-d is shaking His fist. Think they'll listen??? Nah...
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Magnitude M 6.3
Region SOUTHERN IRAN
Date time 2013-05-11 02:08:19.0 UTC
Location 26.85 N ; 57.98 E
Depth 80 km
Distances 363 km N of Muscat, Oman / pop: 797,000 / local time: 06:08:19.0 2013-05-11
172 km E of Bandar ‘Abbās, Iran / pop: 352,173 / local time: 06:38:19.0 2013-05-11
95 km E of Mīnāb, Iran / pop: 70,790 / local time: 06:38:19.0 2013-05-11



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G-d is shaking His fist. Think they'll listen??? Nah...
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Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault.

That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya.

So, what did the President know and what did the President do?

No one seems to know. Or no one is telling.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: Gerry52


Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens.

SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA.

If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died?

Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief-

Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency.

Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th.

I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too.
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


First let me tell you where I sit before I tell you where I stand. I have a dog in this fight. My comment would be so incredibly non politically correct that it is probably best I keep it to myself. I can only say that you can't justify bad behavior by pointing at other bad behavior. I do not know what the outcome of saving the lives of these four men might have been, but I also know there was a good chance their lives could have been saved. There was nothing "fair" about this exchange.
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Tests said to reveal chemical weapons used in Syria

Tests on Syrian war casualties arriving in Turkey indicate chemical weapons have been used by Syrian forces, and further tests are being carried out to verify the evidence, Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said on Friday.

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Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault.

That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya.

So, what did the President know and what did the President do?

No one seems to know. Or no one is telling.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: Gerry52


Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens.

SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA.

If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died?

Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief-

Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency.

Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th.

I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too.
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Yes, they do. But, if they were that entrenched in the gov as the article says, then they KNEW what was coming. At the very least, they knew the atmosphere they lived in.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault.

That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya.

So, what did the President know and what did the President do?

No one seems to know. Or no one is telling.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: Gerry52


Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens.

SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA.

If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died?

Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief-

Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency.

Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th.

I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too.
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


First let me tell you where I sit before I tell you where I stand. I have a dog in this fight. My comment would be so incredibly non politically correct that it is probably best I keep it to myself. I can only say that you can't justify bad behavior by pointing at other bad behavior. I do not know what the outcome of saving the lives of these four men might have been, but I also know there was a good chance their lives could have been saved. There was nothing "fair" about this exchange.
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Re: WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)
Type: Earthquake
46 minutes ago
Magnitude: 4.7
DateTime: Saturday May 11 2013, 04:42:39 UTC
Region: near the coast of Libya
Depth: 14.8 km
Source: USGS Feed


I don't think they're getting the message.
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05/11/2013 06:17 AM
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Re: WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)
@DougPologe: U.N. observer units have completely withdrawn from the Golan Heights truce zone, according to this report (Arabic)

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05/11/2013 06:46 AM
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Imminent escalation in the golan ?
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05/11/2013 08:26 AM
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Re: WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)
Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault.

That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya.

So, what did the President know and what did the President do?

No one seems to know. Or no one is telling.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: Gerry52


Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens.

SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA.

If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died?

Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief-

Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency.

Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th.

I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too.
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


First let me tell you where I sit before I tell you where I stand. I have a dog in this fight. My comment would be so incredibly non politically correct that it is probably best I keep it to myself. I can only say that you can't justify bad behavior by pointing at other bad behavior. I do not know what the outcome of saving the lives of these four men might have been, but I also know there was a good chance their lives could have been saved. There was nothing "fair" about this exchange.
 Quoting: Gerry52


I apologize Gerry.

J4J - what article?
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05/11/2013 09:53 AM
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Re: WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)
Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault.

That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya.

So, what did the President know and what did the President do?

No one seems to know. Or no one is telling.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: Gerry52


Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens.

SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA.

If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died?

Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief-

Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency.

Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th.

I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too.
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


First let me tell you where I sit before I tell you where I stand. I have a dog in this fight. My comment would be so incredibly non politically correct that it is probably best I keep it to myself. I can only say that you can't justify bad behavior by pointing at other bad behavior. I do not know what the outcome of saving the lives of these four men might have been, but I also know there was a good chance their lives could have been saved. There was nothing "fair" about this exchange.
 Quoting: Gerry52


I apologize Gerry.

J4J - what article?
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


No apology necessary, we each have our own view of the situation. I understand and respect yours, just wanted you to know where I was coming from and why.
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