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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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Report: US Apologized to Israel for Leak

The United States has apologized for leaking information about Israel's alleged attack in Syria several weeks ago.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]



Folks, this is the way Obahmah does damage to his enemies. Not only does he attack his enemies by use of the IRS and by wiretap he digs up confidential info. He played this same trick on his political opponents back in Chicago, releasing divorce proceedings and other damaging materials to hurt his enemy. Israel is Obahmah's enemy and he will leak when he needs to, here that means confidential information such as when planes and drones are being readied to take off and strike Iran. There will be a leak.
 Quoting: M M


It's obvious the US [whitey/christian] is considered an enemy as well. I wonder if Hillary felt the plan, as well.
 Quoting: pool


Hillary long ago was interlocked with the fait of bringing socialism across the ocean to the US. Interesting that her first job working for the commission investigating Watergate, that they fired her for unethical behavior.

hillary
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Watching the geopolitical scene, along with the meltdown occurring in DC, Makes one really think Western Civilization is circling the drain. Now I know how the Romans felt while sitting in the bathhouse.


"hey Gracchus"

"Yes Maximus?"

"I think this whole Roman Empire thing has hit the wall"

"I agree. Lets call it quitsies and become Byzantines"
 Quoting: BioReaper


On the meltdown in DC, not much will come of it sadly I say. Even the great (sarcasm) Rush Limbaugh said today that anyone who thinks that the first black president and the first Attorney General will be impeached should think again. The public and the media would NEVER go for it, no matter what either of them do. Sigh, I think he is right. The evil ones who put Obahmah into office knew that by choosing a minority, they could get away with more, they are sure getting their monies worth out of this president and the policies and practices he does to destroy a way of life.
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What concerns me is that our enemies will use the opportunity for some high jinx.
"So much, for the glory of Rome...“
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Syria Displays IDF Jeep Captured from Rebels
[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

Syrian military officials were quick to accuse Israel of aiding the rebels by displaying an IDF jeep used by rebels that was captured in a gunfight.

The IDF clarified Monday that the jeep was decommissioned a decade ago, and was never transferred to the rebels. Sunday, the IDF spokesman announced the IDF was not taking sides, and was strictly involved in monitoring various security situation scenarios based on developments in Syria.









THEY say that one can see the construction of an imaginery road to war being built between Damascus and Israel whereas, Syria is bound to attack Israel soon and that they are now merely demonizing Israel sufficiently to ensure public support when they open up on Israel. Example above, and IDF jeep from 10 years ago, gasp!
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Watching the geopolitical scene, along with the meltdown occurring in DC, Makes one really think Western Civilization is circling the drain. Now I know how the Romans felt while sitting in the bathhouse.


"hey Gracchus"

"Yes Maximus?"

"I think this whole Roman Empire thing has hit the wall"

"I agree. Lets call it quitsies and become Byzantines"
 Quoting: BioReaper


On the meltdown in DC, not much will come of it sadly I say. Even the great (sarcasm) Rush Limbaugh said today that anyone who thinks that the first black president and the first Attorney General will be impeached should think again. The public and the media would NEVER go for it, no matter what either of them do. Sigh, I think he is right. The evil ones who put Obahmah into office knew that by choosing a minority, they could get away with more, they are sure getting their monies worth out of this president and the policies and practices he does to destroy a way of life.
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What concerns me is that our enemies will use the opportunity for some high jinx.
 Quoting: BioReaper


And that is why they have Obama in office as their puppet!
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Report: US Apologized to Israel for Leak

The United States has apologized for leaking information about Israel's alleged attack in Syria several weeks ago.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]



Folks, this is the way Obahmah does damage to his enemies. Not only does he attack his enemies by use of the IRS and by wiretap he digs up confidential info. He played this same trick on his political opponents back in Chicago, releasing divorce proceedings and other damaging materials to hurt his enemy. Israel is Obahmah's enemy and he will leak when he needs to, here that means confidential information such as when planes and drones are being readied to take off and strike Iran. There will be a leak.
 Quoting: M M


It's obvious the US [whitey/christian] is considered an enemy as well. I wonder if Hillary felt the plan, as well.
 Quoting: pool


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Report: US Apologized to Israel for Leak

The United States has apologized for leaking information about Israel's alleged attack in Syria several weeks ago.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]



Folks, this is the way Obahmah does damage to his enemies. Not only does he attack his enemies by use of the IRS and by wiretap he digs up confidential info. He played this same trick on his political opponents back in Chicago, releasing divorce proceedings and other damaging materials to hurt his enemy. Israel is Obahmah's enemy and he will leak when he needs to, here that means confidential information such as when planes and drones are being readied to take off and strike Iran. There will be a leak.
 Quoting: M M


It's obvious the US [whitey/christian] is considered an enemy as well. I wonder if Hillary felt the plan, as well.
 Quoting: pool


bump
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Forgot to sign in.................................again.

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After the al Qusayr victory, Syria and Hizballah plan war on Israel

[link to www.debka.com]




OUR former Mossad friends at DEBKA are suggesting a war with Israel is soon to follow victories that Assad now achieves with the help of Iran. And below, the WND folk too suggest an attack on Israel is imminent. Myself, depends on how many Iranians and Russians are gathered in Syria to assist in the fight and what type of weapons have been acquired for the battle and imported from North Korea and Russia.





Hezbollah preparing to attack Israel, commander says
Read more at [link to www.wnd.com]
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After the al Qusayr victory, Syria and Hizballah plan war on Israel

[link to www.debka.com]




OUR former Mossad friends at DEBKA are suggesting a war with Israel is soon to follow victories that Assad now achieves with the help of Iran. And below, the WND folk too suggest an attack on Israel is imminent. Myself, depends on how many Iranians and Russians are gathered in Syria to assist in the fight and what type of weapons have been acquired for the battle and imported from North Korea and Russia.





Hezbollah preparing to attack Israel, commander says
Read more at [link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: M M


Would Russia attack Israel directly? I know it's biblical and all that, but would they really? I mean talk about risky gambles...
"So much, for the glory of Rome...“
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After the al Qusayr victory, Syria and Hizballah plan war on Israel

[link to www.debka.com]




OUR former Mossad friends at DEBKA are suggesting a war with Israel is soon to follow victories that Assad now achieves with the help of Iran. And below, the WND folk too suggest an attack on Israel is imminent. Myself, depends on how many Iranians and Russians are gathered in Syria to assist in the fight and what type of weapons have been acquired for the battle and imported from North Korea and Russia.





Hezbollah preparing to attack Israel, commander says
Read more at [link to www.wnd.com]
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Imminent, i.e, days ?
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After the al Qusayr victory, Syria and Hizballah plan war on Israel

[link to www.debka.com]




OUR former Mossad friends at DEBKA are suggesting a war with Israel is soon to follow victories that Assad now achieves with the help of Iran. And below, the WND folk too suggest an attack on Israel is imminent. Myself, depends on how many Iranians and Russians are gathered in Syria to assist in the fight and what type of weapons have been acquired for the battle and imported from North Korea and Russia.





Hezbollah preparing to attack Israel, commander says
Read more at [link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: M M


Would Russia attack Israel directly? I know it's biblical and all that, but would they really? I mean talk about risky gambles...
 Quoting: BioReaper


If God puts it in the Russians hearts that they will win, ya they would. I think thats what the "hook in the jaw" is all about myself.
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After the al Qusayr victory, Syria and Hizballah plan war on Israel

[link to www.debka.com]




OUR former Mossad friends at DEBKA are suggesting a war with Israel is soon to follow victories that Assad now achieves with the help of Iran. And below, the WND folk too suggest an attack on Israel is imminent. Myself, depends on how many Iranians and Russians are gathered in Syria to assist in the fight and what type of weapons have been acquired for the battle and imported from North Korea and Russia.





Hezbollah preparing to attack Israel, commander says
Read more at [link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: M M


Would Russia attack Israel directly? I know it's biblical and all that, but would they really? I mean talk about risky gambles...
 Quoting: BioReaper


Some have heard me say this before but here I go. Back in the 80's, Russia/USSR was prepared to invade Israel from Lebanon. During Lebanese operations by the IDF, they found large numbers of Russian military equipment and uniforms hidden in caves in Lebanon. The reason was based upon some plan to invade the middleeast. The strategists at the time were willing to contemplate and plan an invasion of Israel.

Since then things have not changed that much.

If you do some research you will find, Russia has been playing with Iran since the 1990's and has developed some very close ties. If or when Israel attacks Iran, Russia will come to Iran's rescue. Seems to be that Russia may even be willing to come to Syria's rescue too. They have little dominance in the world geopolitical realm, but SYria and Iran are areas where Russia still feels they hold clout.
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After the al Qusayr victory, Syria and Hizballah plan war on Israel

[link to www.debka.com]




OUR former Mossad friends at DEBKA are suggesting a war with Israel is soon to follow victories that Assad now achieves with the help of Iran. And below, the WND folk too suggest an attack on Israel is imminent. Myself, depends on how many Iranians and Russians are gathered in Syria to assist in the fight and what type of weapons have been acquired for the battle and imported from North Korea and Russia.





Hezbollah preparing to attack Israel, commander says
Read more at [link to www.wnd.com]
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Imminent, i.e, days ?
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Few weeks perhaps . . .
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Report: US Apologized to Israel for Leak

The United States has apologized for leaking information about Israel's alleged attack in Syria several weeks ago.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

Folks, this is the way Obahmah does damage to his enemies. Not only does he attack his enemies by use of the IRS and by wiretap he digs up confidential info. He played this same trick on his political opponents back in Chicago, releasing divorce proceedings and other damaging materials to hurt his enemy. Israel is Obahmah's enemy and he will leak when he needs to, here that means confidential information such as when planes and drones are being readied to take off and strike Iran. There will be a leak.
 Quoting: M M


In the Miami language, Chicago means either "smelly onion" or "dirty politics". The "Chicago boys" have always played dirty...

Anyone heard from TB? I think her son was back home is Texas - but he goes to school in Oklahoma...
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Obama 'concerned' over Hezbollah militants in Syria

US President Barack Obama told his Lebanese counterpart on Monday he was concerned about Lebanese Hezbollah militants fighting in Syria to support Syrian President Bashar Assad, the White House said.

Obama and Lebanese President Michel Suleiman spoke by telephone the same day Syrian activists said about 30 Hezbollah fighters and 20 Syrian soldiers and militiamen loyal to Assad had been killed in the fiercest fighting this year in the rebel stronghold of Qusair.

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Report: US Apologized to Israel for Leak

The United States has apologized for leaking information about Israel's alleged attack in Syria several weeks ago.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

Folks, this is the way Obahmah does damage to his enemies. Not only does he attack his enemies by use of the IRS and by wiretap he digs up confidential info. He played this same trick on his political opponents back in Chicago, releasing divorce proceedings and other damaging materials to hurt his enemy. Israel is Obahmah's enemy and he will leak when he needs to, here that means confidential information such as when planes and drones are being readied to take off and strike Iran. There will be a leak.
 Quoting: M M


In the Miami language, Chicago means either "smelly onion" or "dirty politics". The "Chicago boys" have always played dirty...

Anyone heard from TB? I think her son was back home is Texas - but he goes to school in Oklahoma...
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Hey, Darby. Sorry guys, I've been on Luisport's thread this afternoon. Thankfully, youngest brat has been home for a week. Moore is the next town north of Norman, where he goes to school. Lot's of places I know were destroyed. We usually stay in Moore when we go to Norman for things. Not sure if the hotel we usually stay at is still standing. So much is gone.verysad
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Report: US Apologized to Israel for Leak

The United States has apologized for leaking information about Israel's alleged attack in Syria several weeks ago.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

Folks, this is the way Obahmah does damage to his enemies. Not only does he attack his enemies by use of the IRS and by wiretap he digs up confidential info. He played this same trick on his political opponents back in Chicago, releasing divorce proceedings and other damaging materials to hurt his enemy. Israel is Obahmah's enemy and he will leak when he needs to, here that means confidential information such as when planes and drones are being readied to take off and strike Iran. There will be a leak.
 Quoting: M M


In the Miami language, Chicago means either "smelly onion" or "dirty politics". The "Chicago boys" have always played dirty...

Anyone heard from TB? I think her son was back home is Texas - but he goes to school in Oklahoma...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Hey, Darby. Sorry guys, I've been on Luisport's thread this afternoon. Thankfully, youngest brat has been home for a week. Moore is the next town north of Norman, where he goes to school. Lot's of places I know were destroyed. We usually stay in Moore when we go to Norman for things. Not sure if the hotel we usually stay at is still standing. So much is gone.verysad
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Glad to hear that he's okay. hf

Hopefully, everyone made it to shelters
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They didn't, Darby. Moore's schools were still in session. Plaza Towers Elementary was destroyed. Search and Rescue with dogs are there now. They found some kids alive, but now they're finding bodies. It's unbelievable, the destruction.
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They didn't, Darby. Moore's schools were still in session. Plaza Towers Elementary was destroyed. Search and Rescue with dogs are there now. They found some kids alive, but now they're finding bodies. It's unbelievable, the destruction.
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heart and prayers go out to the victims and their families, glad to hear your son is safe TB.
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They didn't, Darby. Moore's schools were still in session. Plaza Towers Elementary was destroyed. Search and Rescue with dogs are there now. They found some kids alive, but now they're finding bodies. It's unbelievable, the destruction.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


heart and prayers go out to the victims and their families, glad to hear your son is safe TB.
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Thanks, zilla. They just called off the search and rescue. It's now a recovery effort. They're looking for 2 dozen little ones.
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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Report: US Apologized to Israel for Leak

The United States has apologized for leaking information about Israel's alleged attack in Syria several weeks ago.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]



Folks, this is the way Obahmah does damage to his enemies. Not only does he attack his enemies by use of the IRS and by wiretap he digs up confidential info. He played this same trick on his political opponents back in Chicago, releasing divorce proceedings and other damaging materials to hurt his enemy. Israel is Obahmah's enemy and he will leak when he needs to, here that means confidential information such as when planes and drones are being readied to take off and strike Iran. There will be a leak.
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On Israel

a major cyber attack carried out by the Syrian Electronic Army
on Israels Infrastructure.

Why is no one speaking about this? And the SA makes a direct threat to Texas...Any thoughts?


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6 May 2013

Syrian Electronic Army Hacks Haifa Infrastructure

Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 21:04:29 +0500
To: scada_attackers[at]hush.ai
Subject: Haifa, Israel Main Infrastructure (SCADA) Hacked by SEA
From: scada_attackers[at]hush.ai

Greetings,



We would like to announce that in response to the unfair and illegal attacks, taken place by Israel on DATE, SEA has penetrated one of the main infrastructural systems (SCADA) in Haifa and managed to gain access to some sensitive data. Also SEA is now able to cause irrecoverable damages to the Israeli's infrastructural systems.

This message carries a serious caution to the Israeli statesmen. They should know that not receiving a quick reaction to such childish ventures, does not show the Syrian inability in doing so, but it is based on wisdom and humanity considerations. We do not approve of killing civilians and innocent people as this is an Israeli type of solution instead.

Also an advise to those who left their homelands for many years, dreaming a happy and safe life, deceived by politicians whose deed is much far than their slogans; Do the best to express your objections to Israeli policies, since we do not like to see innocent people getting killed in Texas, US, but this time in Haifa.

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They didn't, Darby. Moore's schools were still in session. Plaza Towers Elementary was destroyed. Search and Rescue with dogs are there now. They found some kids alive, but now they're finding bodies. It's unbelievable, the destruction.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


heart and prayers go out to the victims and their families, glad to hear your son is safe TB.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Thanks, zilla. They just called off the search and rescue. It's now a recovery effort. They're looking for 2 dozen little ones.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Those poor little babies! They just said that they made it to the basement of the school but were trapped. The tornado didn't get them. They drowned from burst water pipes....they couldn't get out.

My heart weeps for their families. verysad
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They didn't, Darby. Moore's schools were still in session. Plaza Towers Elementary was destroyed. Search and Rescue with dogs are there now. They found some kids alive, but now they're finding bodies. It's unbelievable, the destruction.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


heart and prayers go out to the victims and their families, glad to hear your son is safe TB.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Thanks, zilla. They just called off the search and rescue. It's now a recovery effort. They're looking for 2 dozen little ones.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Those poor little babies! They just said that they made it to the basement of the school but were trapped. The tornado didn't get them. They drowned from burst water pipes....they couldn't get out.

My heart weeps for their families. verysad
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How terrible.
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Yes, very sad day indeed there in the heart land of USA.
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IDF unit shoots at Syrian post in retaliation for gunfire
Following three consecutive nights in which Syrian gunfire hits IDF unit in same Golan area, IDF fires back at Syrian post

[link to www.ynetnews.com]


And if you know of anyone who has been affected by the tornado's I put together some resources, I know it is OT but someone might need it

CATEGORIES IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER
(Click on the link next to each category for resource information pertaining to that section)

ANIMALS ~ [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]
DISTRIBUTION (AND OTHER ASSISTANCE/WHERE TO GET HELP) - [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]
DONATION COLLECTION SITES ~ [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]
EMERGENCY SHELTER - [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]
EVENTS ~ [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]
FACEBOOK PAGES ~ [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]
IMPORTANT NOTICES ~ [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]
MEALS ~ [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]
MEDICAL ~ [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]
MISSING PERSONS ~ [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]
TENANT RIGHTS ~
VOLUNTEER ~ [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]



IF YOU HHAVE BEEN AFFECTED CALL FEMA GET YOUR REGISTRATION NUMBER

this number will be used to help you and your family,,


The number for this disaster is DR-4117


Oklahoma Severe Storms and Tornadoes (DR-4117)
Incident period: May 18, 2013
Major Disaster Declaration declared on May 20, 2013

Individuals and business owners who sustained losses in the designated counties can begin applying for assistance by registering online at www.DisasterAssistance.gov or by calling 1-800-621-FEMA (3362) or by web enabled mobile device at m.fema.gov. Disaster assistance applicants, who have a speech disability or hearing loss and use TTY, should call 1-800-462-7585 directly; for those who use 711 or Video Relay Service (VRS), call 1-800-621-3362. The toll-free telephone numbers will operate from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. (local time) seven days a week until further notice.

Follow FEMA online at fema.gov/blog, www.twitter.com/fema, www.facebook.com/fema, and www.youtube.com/fema. Also, follow Administrator Craig Fugate's activities at www.twitter.com/craigatfema.

[link to www.fema.gov]

[link to www.fema.gov]

The University of Oklahoma is opening up spaces in Housing for the displaced families! Call 405-325-2511


Find Shelter updated every 30 mintues
[link to www.redcross.org]


Clothing

International Harvest Church is open ALL NIGHT as a donation drop off site
405-703-2800.

International Harvest Church at 3000 N. Santa Fe/Moore, Oklahoma
(on South Santa Fe, between SW 89th and SW 104th / NW 27th)


Vet care
From Moore Oklahoma Tornado Lost and Found Animals:
"Veterinary Triage Center set up at Home Depot south of the Warren Theatre...please spread the word. Crew from Summit & Neel Veterinary Hospital are here." Per Summit Veterinary Hospital


This link has tons of info on finding resources please pass it on

[link to moore.recovers.org (secure)]

a few more numbers

Oklahoma City Red Cross
(405) 228-9500

Cleveland County Emergency Management Office (Norman OK)
(405) 366-0249

Safe and well
[link to safeandwell.communityos.org (secure)]

crisis map
[link to google.org]

Red Cross Oklahoma ‏@redcrossokc 4h
UPDATE
New shelter open
Newcastle Storm Shelter
851 N Carr
Newcastle, OK
Retweeted by The City of OKC
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Red Cross Oklahoma ‏@redcrossokc 4h
UPDATE:
New shelter open
Moore Community Center
201 S Howard
Moore, OK


Animal Shelters
posted about 8 hours ago by caitria
Tags: needs

Tracy and Holly Porter told News 9 they have 60 acres with barns and pipe fencing just north of Seminole. Anyone needs somewhere to keep their cows and horses, call the Porters at (405)-777-6570 or (405)-921-0204.

@okcpets: OKC Animal Welfare will accept animals from the affected areas of Moore & will coordinate w/ Moore Animal Shelter as needed. 2811 Southeast 29th Street Oklahoma City, OK 73129 (405) 297-3100 okc.gov‎

If any horses have been left homeless - or injured - in Oklahoma & have nowhere else to go, call number below. They will take in all that we can & we will fix those that need fixing......Jim Gath - Tierra Madre Horse Sanctuary - Cave Creek, AZ - 480.747.1070
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Hezbollah sends new fighters to bloody Syria battle

..."Hezbollah has sent new elite troops to Qusayr. They have already taken many prisoners from among the rebels, including non-Syrians," the source said on condition of anonymity....

"The rebels are putting up a fierce resistance, refusing to abandon the civilians," he said.

"But Hezbollah and the loyalist army are staging an extremely fierce assault," he added...


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IDF denies Syrian claim Israeli vehicle destroyed in Golan

Syrian military leadership says on state TV that its armed forces destroyed an Israel vehicle, but the IDF says it was just lightly damaged; soldiers return fire; defense source: "The fire was directed at us."
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Erdan: Rockets targeting civilian centers matter of time

Home Front Defense Minister Gilad Erdan Tuesday warned that rockets targeting large civilian areas in Israel were dependent only on a matter of time, Army Radio reported.

"The question doesn't remain if rockets will be fired on large concentrations of the population in Israel, the question is when will this happen," the minister said in advance of a Home Front exercise scheduled for next week.

"My answer is that it doesn't really matter - it could happen tonight, it could happen next week - escalations within our borders don't depend solely on the IDF or what it wants," he added.



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Big Big heads up or duck and cover . . . it is coming.

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SOME SYRIAN RELATED ISSUES OF THE DAY AND THE TRANSPIRATION OF WAR OF WORDS and ACTIONS.

UN: Drop in Syrians reaching Jordan, unclear why
(17:32 , 05.21.13)

Gantz: If Assad disrupts Golan Heights quiet he will pay
(16:57 , 05.21.13)

Syria: We'll respond to every attack, rules of game changed
(15:57 , 05.21.13)

Jordan keeps out Syrian refugees in border clampdown
(15:33 , 05.21.13)

Arden: Missiles will hit large population centers in Israel
(14:47 , 05.21.13)

Defense Minister: We will not allow Syrian fire into our territory
(13:35 , 05.21.13)

3 Hezbollah fighters die of wounds from Syria
(13:27 , 05.21.13)

Israel denies Syrian claim Israeli vehicle destroyed
(12:53 , 05.21.13)

Injured Syrian taken to Israeli hospital
(12:00 , 05.21.13)

Chief of Staff: Uncertainty on Egypt, Syria border will continue
(11:42 , 05.21.13)
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What Israel fears is a war of attrition.



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The War of Attrition (Arabic: حرب الاستنزا&#160​1;‎ Ḥarb al-Istinzāf, Hebrew: מלחמת ההתשה‎ Milhemet haHatashah) was a war fought between Israel and Egypt from 1967 to 1970.

Following the 1967 Six-Day War, there were no serious diplomatic efforts to resolve the issues at the heart of the Arab-Israeli conflict. In September 1967 Arab states formulated the "Three No's" policy, barring peace, recognition or negotiations with Israel. Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser believed only military initiative would compel Israel or the international community to force a full Israeli withdrawal from Sinai,[17][18] and hostilities soon resumed along the Suez Canal.

These initially took the form of limited artillery duels and small scale incursions into Sinai, but by 1969 the Egyptian Army was prepared for larger scaled operations. On March 8, 1969, Nasser proclaimed the official launch of the War of Attrition, characterized by large scale shelling along the Suez Canal, extensive aerial warfare and commando raids.[17][19] Hostilities continued until August 1970 and ended with a ceasefire, the frontiers remaining the same as when the war began, with no real commitment to serious peace negotiations.

Timeline [edit]





Israeli naval personnel celebrate their victory after an engagement with Egyptian naval forces near Rumani.
July 1, 1967: An Israeli armored infantry company attacks an Egyptian force entrenched at Ras el 'Ish, located 10 miles south of Port Said. The Israeli company drives off the Egyptians but loses 1 dead and 13 wounded.[27] However, another source claims that an Israeli attack on Port Fuad was repulsed.[17]

July 2, 1967: The Israeli Air Force bombs Egyptian artillery positions that had supported the commandos at Ras Al-'Ish.[28]

July 4, 1967: Egyptian Air Force jets strike several Israeli targets in Sinai. An Egyptian MiG-17 is shot down.[29]

July 8, 1967: An Egyptian Air Force MiG-21 is shot down by Israeli air defenses while on a reconnaissance mission over el-Qanatra. Two Su-7s equipped with cameras are then sent out to carry out the mission, and manage to complete several turns over Sinai without any opposition. Two other Su-7s are sent for another reconnaissance mission hours later, but are attacked by Israeli Air Force fighter jets. One Su-7 is shot down.[29]

July 11–12, 1967: Battle of Rumani Coast - The Israeli Navy destroyer INS Eilat and two torpedo boats sink two Egyptian torpedo boats off the Rumani coast. No crewmen on the Egyptian torpedo boats are known to have survived, and there were no Israeli casualties.[30]

July 14, 1967: Artillery exchanges and aerial duels erupt near the Suez Canal. Seven Egyptian fighter aircraft are shot down.[31]

October 21, 1967: The Egyptian Navy sinks the Israeli destroyer INS Eilat, killing forty-seven sailors.[21]

October, 1967: In retaliation to the sinking of the Eilat, Israeli artillery bombards oil refineries and depots near Suez. In a series of artillery exchanges throughout October, the Egyptians sustain civilian casualties. Egypt evacuates a large number of the civilian population in the canal region.[32]

1968 [edit]





President Nasser of Egypt surveys positions at the Canal.
March 21, 1968: In response to persistent PLO raids against Israeli civilian targets, Israel attacks the town of Karameh, Jordan, the site of a major PLO camp, but is met with resistance by Jordanian and PLO forces. Despite hours of fighting, Israeli troops consolidate their hold on the Karameh camp with the aid of artillery and airstrikes, blowing up 175 houses. They then fight their way back to Israeli territory, taking with them as much military equipment as they can, along with 120–150 prisoners. Both sides suffered significant casualties and material losses, but Jordanian and PLO losses were far greater than Israel's.

June 1968: The war "officially" begins, with sparse Egyptian artillery bombardment of the Israeli front line on the east bank of the Suez Canal. More artillery bombardments in the following months cause Israeli casualties.[20]

September 8, 1968: An Egyptian artillery barrage kills 10 Israeli soldiers and injures 18. Israel responds by shelling Suez and Ismaïlia.[29]

October 30, 1968: Israeli helicopter-borne Sayeret Matkal commandos carry out Operation Helem (Shock), destroying an Egyptian electric transformator station, two dams along the Nile River and a bridge.[29] The blackout causes Nasser to cease hostilities for a few months while fortifications around hundreds of important targets are built. Simultaneously, Israel reinforces its position on the east bank of the Suez Canal by construction of the Bar Lev Line.[33]

November 3, 1968: Egyptian MiG-17s attack Israeli positions, and are met by Israeli interceptors. One Israeli plane is damaged.[29]

December 1, 1968: Israeli helicopter-borne commandos destroy four bridges near Amman, Jordan.[29]

December 3, 1968: The Israeli Air Force bombs PLO camps in Jordan. The Israeli jets are intercepted by Hawker Hunters of the Royal Jordanian Air Force, and an Israeli fighter jet is damaged during the brief air battle.[29]

1969 [edit]





F-4E Phantom of the Israeli Air Force. The aircraft was used to good effect as "flying artillery" during the war. Roundel markings on nose credit this aircraft with three aerial kills.




Soviet SA-3 anti-aircraft missile of the type deployed by the Soviets and Egyptians in the Suez Canal vicinity.




Israeli troops at the Firdan Bridge by the Suez Canal, 1969.
March 8, 1969: Egypt strikes the Bar Lev Line with artillery fire and airstrikes, causing heavy casualties. Israel retaliates with raids deep into Egyptian territory, causing severe damage.[20]

March 9, 1969: Egyptian Chief of Staff Abdul Munim Riad is killed in an Israeli mortar attack while visiting the front lines along the Suez Canal.

May–July 1969: Heavy fighting takes place between Israeli and Egyptian forces. Israel loses 47 dead and 157 wounded, while Egyptian casualties are far heavier.

July 18, 1969: Egyptian commandos raid Israeli military installations in Sinai.[29]

July 19–20, 1969: Operation Bulmus 6 – Israeli Shayetet 13 and Sayeret Matkal commandos raid Green Island, resulting in the total destruction of the Egyptian facility. Six Israeli soldiers and 80 Egyptian soldiers are killed. Some Egyptian casualties are caused by their own artillery.

July 20–28, 1969: Operation Boxer – Nearly the entire Israeli Air Force attacks the northern sector of the Canal, destroying anti-aircraft positions, tanks and artillery, and shooting down eight Egyptian aircraft. An estimated 300 Egyptian soldiers are killed. It also manages to reduce the artillery bombardment somewhat. However, shelling with lighter weapons, particularly mortars, continues.

August 1969: The Israeli Air Force flies about 1,000 combat sorties against Egypt, destroying dozens of SAM sites and shooting down 21 aircraft. Three Israeli aircraft are lost.[29]

September 9, 1969: Operation Raviv – Israeli forces raid Egypt's Red Sea coast. The raid is preceded by Operation Escort, with Shayetet 13 naval commandos sinking a pair of Egyptian torpedo boats that could have threatened the Israeli raiding party. Three commandos are killed when an explosive device detonates prematurely. Israeli troops backed up by aircraft captured Egyptian armor, and destroy 12 Egyptian outposts. The Egyptians suffer 100–200 casualties, and a Soviet general serving as a consultant to the Egyptians is also killed, while one Israeli soldier is lightly injured. An Israeli plane is shot down during the raid, and the pilot's fate becomes unknown.

September 11, 1969: Sixteen Egyptian aircraft carry out a strike mission. Eight MiGs are shot down by Israeli Mirages and a further three Su-7s are lost to Israeli anti-aircraft artillery and HAWK surface-to-air missiles.[34]

October 17, 1969: The United States and Soviet Union begin diplomatic talks to end the conflict.

December 9, 1969: Egyptian aircraft, with the assistance of newly delivered P-15 radars, defeats the Israelis in an aerial engagement, shooting down two Israeli Mirages. Later in the evening, an Egyptian fighter flown by Lt. Ahmed Atef shot down an Israeli F-4 Phantom II, making him the first Egyptian pilot to shoot down an F-4 in combat.[35] The same day, the Rogers Plan is publicized. It calls for Egyptian "commitment to peace" in exchange for the Israeli withdrawal from Sinai. Both parties strongly reject the plan. President Nasser instead opts to plead for more sophisticated weaponry from the Soviet Union to withstand the Israeli bombings. The Soviets initially refuse to deliver the requested weapons.[36]

December 26–27, 1969: Israel launches Operation Rooster 53, carried out by paratroopers transported by Sikorsky CH-53E and Super Frelon helicopters. The operation results in the capture of an Egyptian P-12 radar at Ras Gharib and carrying it to Israel by 2 CH-53 Sea Stallion Helicopters. The operation enabled Israeli and American learning of the latest Soviet radar technology, and caused a huge morale impact on the Egyptians.

1970 [edit]





Soviet medal issued to Soviet soldiers who served in Egypt during the War of Attrition.




Israeli war ribbon signifying participation in the War of Attrition.
January 22, 1970: President Nasser secretly flies to Moscow to discuss the situation. His request for new SAM batteries (including the 3M9 Kub and Strela-2) is approved. Their deployment requires qualified personnel along with squadrons of aircraft to protect them. In effect, he needs Red Army in large numbers, something the Kremlin did not want to provide. Nasser then threatens to resign, implying that Egypt might turn to the United States for help in the future. The Soviets had invested heavily in President Nasser's regime, and so, the Soviet leader, General-Secretary Leonid Brezhnev, finally obliged. The Soviet presence was to increase from 2,500–4,000 in January to 10,600–12,150 (plus 100–150 Soviet pilots) by June 30.

January 22, 1970: Operation Rhodes. Israeli paratroopers and naval commandos are transported by IAF Super Frelon helicopters to Shadwan Island where they kill 70 Egyptian soldiers and take 62 more prisoner at the loss of 3 dead and 7 wounded. The soldiers dismantle an Egyptian radar and other military equipment for transport back to Israel. IAF aircraft sink two Egyptian P-183 torpedo boats during the operation.[37]

February, 1970: An Egyptian commando platoon attempts to set up an ambush in the vicinity of the Mitla Pass but is discovered. The entire unit is either killed or captured.[34]

February 5, 1970: Israeli auxiliary ships are damaged in the Port of Eilat during a raid by Egyptian frogmen.[38]

March 15, 1970: The first fully operational Soviet SAM site in Egypt is completed. It is part of three brigades which the Soviet Union sends to Egypt.[39] Israeli F-4 Phantom II jets repeatedly bomb Egyptian positions in Sinai. On February 9, an air battle takes place, with each side losing one plane.[29]

April 8, 1970: Israeli Air Force F4 Phantom II jets kill forty-seven Egyptian schoolchildren at an elementary school in what is known as Bahr el-Baqar incident. The single-floor school was hit by five bombs and two air-to-ground missiles.[40] This put a definite end to the campaign, and the Israelis instead then concentrate upon Canal-side installations. The respite gives the Egyptians time to reconstruct its SAM batteries closer to the canal. Soviet flown MiG fighters provide the necessary air cover. Soviet pilots also begin approaching IAF aircraft during April 1970, but Israeli pilots have orders not to engage these aircraft, and break off whenever Soviet-piloted MiGs appear.

May, 1970: During the final days of the month, the IAF launch major air raids against Port Said, believing a large amphibious force is assembling in the town. On the 16th an Israeli aircraft is shot down in air combat, probably by a MiG-21.[41]

May 3, 1970: Twenty-one Palestinian guerrillas are killed by Israeli troops in the Jordan Valley[38]

June 1970: An Israeli armored raid on Syrian military positions results in "hundreds of Syrian casualties."[16]

June 25, 1970: An Israeli A-4 Skyhawk, in an attack sortie against Egyptian forces on the Canal, is attacked and pursued by a pair of Soviet MiG-21s into Sinai. According to the Soviets, the plane was shot down, while the Israelis claim that it was damaged and forced to land at a nearby airbase.[39]

June 27, 1970: The EAF continued to launch air raids across the canal. On June 27 around eight Egyptian Su-7s and MiG-21s attack Israeli rear areas in Sinai. According to Israel, two Egyptian aircraft were shot down. An Israeli Mirage was shot down, and the pilot was captured.[42]

July 18, 1970: An Israeli airstrike on Egypt causes casualties among Soviet military personnel.

June 30, 1970: Soviet air defenses shoot down two Israeli F-4 Phantoms. Two pilots and a navigator are captured, while a second navigator is rescued by helicopter the following night.[29]

July 30, 1970: A large-scale dogfight occurs between Israeli and Soviet aircraft, codenamed Rimon 20, involving twelve to twenty-four Soviet MiG-21s (besides the initial twelve, other MiGs are "scrambled", but it is unclear if they reach the battle in time), and twelve Israeli Dassault Mirage IIIs and four F-4 Phantom II jets. The engagement takes place west of the Suez Canal. Ambushing their opponents, the Israelis shoot down four of the Soviet-piloted MiGs. A fifth is possibly hit and later crashes en route back to base. Four Soviet pilots are killed, while the IAF suffers no losses except a damaged Mirage.[39] Following the Soviets' direct intervention, known as "Operation Kavkaz",[39] Washington fears an escalation and redoubles efforts toward a peaceful resolution to the conflict.

Early August, 1970: Despite their losses, the Soviets and Egyptians manage to press the air defenses closer to the canal, shooting down a number of Israeli aircraft. The SAM batteries allow the Egyptians to move in artillery which in turn threatens the Bar Lev Line.

August 7, 1970: A cease-fire agreement is reached, forbidding either side from changing "the military status quo within zones extending 50 kilometers to the east and west of the cease-fire line." Minutes after the cease-fire, Egypt begins moving SAM batteries into the zone even though the agreement explicitly forbids new military installations.[17] By October there are approximately one-hundred SAM sites in the zone.

September 28, 1970: President Nasser dies of a heart attack, and his Vice President, Anwar Sadat, takes the reins. Sadat agrees to end the War of Attrition and almost immediately begins planning the Yom Kippur War, which would take place three years later.

Casualties [edit]

Main article: Israeli casualties of war

According to military historian Ze'ev Schiff, some 721 Israelis, of which 594 were soldiers and the remainder civilians, were killed on all three fronts.[43] Chaim Herzog notes a slightly lower figure of just over 500 killed and some 2000 wounded[44] while Netanel Lorch, states that 1,424 soldiers were killed in action between the period of June 15, 1967 and August 8, 1970. Between 14[45] and 16[46] Israeli aircraft were shot down. A Soviet estimate notes aircraft losses of 30. One destroyer, the INS Eilat, was sunk.

As with the previous Arab-Israeli wars of 1948, 1956 and 1967, Arab losses far exceeded those of Israel but precise figures are difficult to ascertain because official figures were never disclosed. The lowest estimate comes from the former Egyptian Army Chief of Staff, Saad El Shazly, who notes Egyptian casualties of 2,882 killed and 6,285 wounded. Historian Benny Morris states that a more realistic figure is somewhere on the scale of 10,000 soldiers and civilians killed. Ze'ev Schiff notes that at the height of the war, the Egyptians were losing some 300 soldiers daily and aerial reconnaissance photos revealed at least 1,801 freshly dug graves near the Canal zone during this period. Among Egypt's war dead was the Egyptian Army Chief of Staff, Abdul Munim Riad.[43]

Between 98[45] and 114[46] Egyptian aircraft were shot down though a Soviet estimate notes air losses of 60. A number of Egyptian naval vessels were sunk. The PLO suffered 1,828 killed and 2,500 captured.[43] Jordan’s intervention on behalf of the PLO during the Battle of Karameh cost it 84 killed and two aircraft lost. An estimated 58 Soviet military personnel were killed and four to five Soviet piloted MiG-21 aircraft were shot down in aerial combat.[47] Syrian casualties are unknown but an armored raid by Israeli forces against Syrian positions in June 1970 led to "hundreds of Syrian casualties."[16] Cuban forces, which were deployed on the Syrian front, were estimated to have lost 180 dead and 250 wounded.[15]
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A war of attrition of continuous static duels and attacks from both sides in the Golan would mimick that which happened in Lebanon for a number of years until the end of the 2008 battle. The arabs have the numbers and sadly care less for death than does Israel. Thus, Syria, Hezbollah, and their Persian friend would prefer such a war of attrition. My note, do not expect Israel to take this approach very favorably. Mil Man would take troops and grab more land off the Golan from Syria for each transgression making it impossible for Assad to continue such a dangerous game.

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