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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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Happy New Year to all!
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From Senate Benghazi Report (Link Above) -

Snippet about rescue team from Tripoli (final hours of incident)

US government security personnel who were based in Tripoli had deployed to Benghazi by chartered aircraft after receiving word of the attack, arriving at the Benghazi airport at 1:15 a.m. They were held at the airport for at least three hours while they negotiated with Libyan authorities about logistics. The exact cause of this hours-long delay, and its relationship to the rescue effort, remains unclear and merits further inquiry. Was it simply the result of a difficult Libyan bureaucracy and a chaotic environment or was it part of a plot to keep American help from reaching the Americans under siege in Benghazi?


The team from Tripoli finally cleared the airport and arrived at the Annex at approximately 5:04 a.m., about ten minutes before a new assault by the terrorist began, involving mortar rounds fired at the Annex. The attack concluded at approximately 5:26 a.m., leaving Annex security team members Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty dead and two others wounded. The decision was then made to leave the Annex. Libyan forces, not militia, arrived around 6:00 a.m. with 50 vehicles and escorted the Americans to the airport. Two planes carrying all remaining U.S. personnel then left Benghazi. The first flight departed between 7:00 a.m. and 7:40 a.m. (agency timelines vary on this point) and the second at 10:00 a.m.

There are two major players in Libya (in terms of armed groups associated with government)

SSC - Militias associated with Ministry of Interior (Misrata)
Libya Shield - Militias associated w/ Ministry of Defense - the Minister of Defense was from Zintan; but his post was eviscerated shortly after he was appointed - power rests with Army Chief of Staff Major General Mangoush (Benghazi)

Looks like both SSC & Libya Shield were AWOL in Benghazi...

Note - By "Libyan Forces" I presume report is referring to Libyan army. Most of those guys died in NATO air strikes; but up to 40k men defected during the revolution. Some died fighting against G; many survived. By the end of the war, I don't believe they controlled any significant installations in the country. They are a rather forlorn crew... They are controlled by Gen. Haftar (CIA asset) and they were literally the last line of defense. The fact that they were called in is stunning...
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Thanks for the new thread MilMan...
And happy new year to all of you ! Bonne année !
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Hi guys and girls, happy new year

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"The new year isn't beginning well. The arc of instability now runs all along the Asia-Pacific coastline from Japan through the Indian Ocean and up the Persian Gulf and Red Sea into the Mediterranean.

Alarming games of strategic chicken are under way in the islands between China and all its maritime neighbors; Japan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam.

The Arab Spring is turning wintry in Egypt as the simmering Sunni-Shiite conflict combines with new horrors in Syria and new rumors of Israeli military strikes against Iran."

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

In a nutshell:
on regional level:
1) tension will grow this year between China and its neighbours, a real shooting war might be in the stakes

2) arab wintertime: on going and worsening; with the help of Barry, muslim brotherhood takes over. Consequences, concequences, concequences.

3)US russia new cold war ...... in the making, getting worse.

overall developments:

1) food crisis: On going and hitting third world countries and emerging countries.

2) the run for the north pole, who has the right to exploit what resources ..... on going.

3) debt crisis: fiscal cliff is a laughing stock compared to the real debt crisis in the US and EU. Plan B is to introduce a new global currency and default on the old one, this currency exists already at the IMF and is already in use. A transition means also, that all your money will be worthless, or at least minus 80 % worthless.

4) unemployment: without growth and with high global competitivity, jobs are rare; people without jobs = high risk of social unrest. In the US = talk about gun confiscation. In Europe = states will split up (Spain), violent demonstrations, civil war.


Happy new year
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"The new year isn't beginning well. The arc of instability now runs all along the Asia-Pacific coastline from Japan through the Indian Ocean and up the Persian Gulf and Red Sea into the Mediterranean.

Alarming games of strategic chicken are under way in the islands between China and all its maritime neighbors; Japan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam.

The Arab Spring is turning wintry in Egypt as the simmering Sunni-Shiite conflict combines with new horrors in Syria and new rumors of Israeli military strikes against Iran."

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

In a nutshell:
on regional level:
1) tension will grow this year between China and its neighbours, a real shooting war might be in the stakes

2) arab wintertime: on going and worsening; with the help of Barry, muslim brotherhood takes over. Consequences, concequences, concequences.

3)US russia new cold war ...... in the making, getting worse.

overall developments:

1) food crisis: On going and hitting third world countries and emerging countries.

2) the run for the north pole, who has the right to exploit what resources ..... on going.

3) debt crisis: fiscal cliff is a laughing stock compared to the real debt crisis in the US and EU. Plan B is to introduce a new global currency and default on the old one, this currency exists already at the IMF and is already in use. A transition means also, that all your money will be worthless, or at least minus 80 % worthless.

4) unemployment: without growth and with high global competitivity, jobs are rare; people without jobs = high risk of social unrest. In the US = talk about gun confiscation. In Europe = states will split up (Spain), violent demonstrations, civil war.


Happy new year
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And I didn't even mention the usual suspects:

Arabs vs Israel
Saudi Arabia vs Iran
Saudi Arabia vs Syria
Turkey
India vs Pacistan
Reds vs Blue in Thailand
Al Quaeda vs the west in Afrika
Terrorists vs civilians in all market places, train stations and supermarkets
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My first thought on Hillary weeks ago when they announced that she had passed out was brain tumor or stroke... now I hear possible memory problems. As an RN, I still think brain tumor or stroke. just my 2 cents

Oh and by the way:

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

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Update on Hilldog's medical condition...

Hillary Clinton Blood Clot Was Life-Threatening, Say Medical Experts. Worst case scenario could have been stroke, and clot probably NOT related to concussion.

[link to abcn.ws]
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Fiscal Cliff 2012: we passed over the cliff, sliding, nothing is decided, yet, big hollywood and politic show, it does not matter.

In 2 month debt ceiling, it won't matter. Lets break through the debt ceiling, it does not matter.

People saying, SHIT, all these debts needs to be paid back by our children, idiots, nothing will be paid back.

People saying, shit, big problem, this costs too much, it does not matter, they are all shit.

Debts that you won't pay back, never, no problem, interests that you cannot pay, no problem.

There is a plan B. And it is already there, in the open. And all, who want to see, can see.

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Fiscal Cliff 2012: we passed over the cliff, sliding, nothing is decided, yet, big hollywood and politic show, it does not matter.

In 2 month debt ceiling, it won't matter. Lets break through the debt ceiling, it does not matter.

People saying, SHIT, all these debts needs to be paid back by our children, idiots, nothing will be paid back.

People saying, shit, big problem, this costs too much, it does not matter, they are all shit.

Debts that you won't pay back, never, no problem, interests that you cannot pay, no problem.

There is a plan B. And it is already there, in the open. And all, who want to see, can see.

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The IMF already has that money, and a printing press. The money is called bancor, in technical terms SRF, you do not see it right now, but it is already used.

The writing on the wall is, you get one bancor for 10% what you have now. This happened before, regularly, this is normal; it just doesn't happen every week. Its called bankrupty. Its called: "I have a gun, I don't pay those debt anymore, fuck off".

For the US it has all the advantage, ..... , the board is by statute and rule, ruled by the US ... the supper is ready.

LOL.

Welcome to the new world.

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I'm having problems with the flu/concussion/blood clot story as well. There is some plausible deniability cover story going on. Just not sure what or why. It all just isn't making sense. And...it has been 3 weeks since we have seen her and the POTUS hasn't said shit about the whole situation.I'm waiting for the Ah-Ha moment when it all makes sense.
 Quoting: Gerry52

Your kidding right? Due to testify on the 27th december and conveniently gets sick, so sick she will probably never have to appear. MY MY That is a mystery!
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That is not the mystery the mystery is why...
 Quoting: Gerry52

I'm not so sure it's anything other than the obvious, saving her own ass. Politicians don't get fired they just retire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31234789


This may not be about Benghazi, she already took the hit for the lack of security, no, something else is going on...Something possibly not so obvious, something we may not know about...yet. And they are trying to keep it that way. Do I know this for a fact, nope, but I'm pretty good at this stuff.
I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas!
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Update on Hilldog's medical condition...

Hillary Clinton Blood Clot Was Life-Threatening, Say Medical Experts. Worst case scenario could have been stroke, and clot probably NOT related to concussion.

[link to abcn.ws]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


I thought it was either a stroke or brain tumor. Stroke did sound more plausible since there was reports of blood thinners.
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Your kidding right? Due to testify on the 27th december and conveniently gets sick, so sick she will probably never have to appear. MY MY That is a mystery!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31234789


That is not the mystery the mystery is why...
 Quoting: Gerry52

I'm not so sure it's anything other than the obvious, saving her own ass. Politicians don't get fired they just retire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31234789


This may not be about Benghazi, she already took the hit for the lack of security, no, something else is going on...Something possibly not so obvious, something we may not know about...yet. And they are trying to keep it that way. Do I know this for a fact, nope, but I'm pretty good at this stuff.
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lame cherry has a new post & a GLPer translated it into English...

Here's thread...

Thread: Updated, Page 3 - HILLARY BETRAYED
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Jihadists use Latin America to finance terror - article on Islamist links to South & Central America -

[link to counterjihadreport.com]
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That is not the mystery the mystery is why...
 Quoting: Gerry52

I'm not so sure it's anything other than the obvious, saving her own ass. Politicians don't get fired they just retire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31234789


This may not be about Benghazi, she already took the hit for the lack of security, no, something else is going on...Something possibly not so obvious, something we may not know about...yet. And they are trying to keep it that way. Do I know this for a fact, nope, but I'm pretty good at this stuff.
 Quoting: Gerry52


lame cherry has a new post & a GLPer translated it into English...

Here's thread...

Thread: Updated, Page 3 - HILLARY BETRAYED
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Read it and ummm....no, sorry, don't buy into it. Way to much silliness built into the story, it negates the rest of the hypothesis. Killer radio beams? I just don't think so...
I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas!
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Thread: has Israeli attack on Iran started?


Probably mostly hunches and rumors, but have you guys heard anything you can share?
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Thread: has Israeli attack on Iran started?


Probably mostly hunches and rumors, but have you guys heard anything you can share?
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Have not heard anything.....
no "IRENE" at this time..
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Thread: has Israeli attack on Iran started?


Probably mostly hunches and rumors, but have you guys heard anything you can share?
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Have not heard anything.....
no "IRENE" at this time..
 Quoting: jw 2305


JW...another thread about an apparent incident in the city of Ishafan. Anything you got you can share on this if it's even true?

Thread: 1.5 Million Iranian people ordered to evacuate from nearby nuke plant.
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[link to www.eutimes.net]
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NEXT 9/11: IRANíS DEATH SQUAD IS HERE
Iran has infiltrated a team of Quds Force terrorist leaders into the United States to attack from within in 2013, according to a source.

The source within the office of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader of the Islamic regime, said the team is to create instability in America through terrorism should the U.S. fail to accept the regimeís illicit nuclear program, increase sanctions, confront Iran militarily or intervene in the Syrian civil war.

Members of the team, no more than 10 Quds Force officers, each lead cells totaling about 50 terrorists already in the U.S.

The source is risking his life not only to reveal the terror operation but to warn that Iran is pursuing its nuclear bomb program around the clock from several secret sites.

Details of the terror plot, meant to disrupt the West, have been passed on to U.S. officials, who are taking countermeasures.
. . .

[link to www.theminorityreportblog.com]
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JUST FOR REPOST SAKE FOR THOSE NOT GOING TO OTHER THREADS:

Iran to Citizens: Flee Isfahan

[link to freebeacon.com]
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JUST FOR REPOST SAKE FOR THOSE NOT GOING TO OTHER THREADS:

Iran to Citizens: Flee Isfahan

[link to freebeacon.com]
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dude is that story a new one or a rehash of one from 2011 hearing conflicting on this, can you clear up?
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JUST FOR REPOST SAKE FOR THOSE NOT GOING TO OTHER THREADS:

Iran to Citizens: Flee Isfahan

[link to freebeacon.com]
 Quoting: MIL MAN


dude is that story a new one or a rehash of one from 2011 hearing conflicting on this, can you clear up?
 Quoting: godzilla85


This interesting update -

Explosion Near #Iranís Isfahan possibly #earthquake

In response, someone asked if small earthquake could be seismographic evidence of attack on plant..

It is geologically active area...
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JUST FOR REPOST SAKE FOR THOSE NOT GOING TO OTHER THREADS:

Iran to Citizens: Flee Isfahan

[link to freebeacon.com]
 Quoting: MIL MAN


dude is that story a new one or a rehash of one from 2011 hearing conflicting on this, can you clear up?
 Quoting: godzilla85


True story, but others are rehashing old stories too. I am in watcher mode for more information. Something is not right, there is something going on.
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JUST FOR REPOST SAKE FOR THOSE NOT GOING TO OTHER THREADS:

Iran to Citizens: Flee Isfahan

[link to freebeacon.com]
 Quoting: MIL MAN


dude is that story a new one or a rehash of one from 2011 hearing conflicting on this, can you clear up?
 Quoting: godzilla85


True story, but others are rehashing old stories too. I am in watcher mode for more information. Something is not right, there is something going on.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Something!

bump
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JUST FOR REPOST SAKE FOR THOSE NOT GOING TO OTHER THREADS:

Iran to Citizens: Flee Isfahan

[link to freebeacon.com]
 Quoting: MIL MAN


dude is that story a new one or a rehash of one from 2011 hearing conflicting on this, can you clear up?
 Quoting: godzilla85


True story, but others are rehashing old stories too. I am in watcher mode for more information. Something is not right, there is something going on.
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Thanks MM, hopefully you'll have something more for us sooner rather than later.
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JUST FOR REPOST SAKE FOR THOSE NOT GOING TO OTHER THREADS:

Iran to Citizens: Flee Isfahan

[link to freebeacon.com]
 Quoting: MIL MAN


dude is that story a new one or a rehash of one from 2011 hearing conflicting on this, can you clear up?
 Quoting: godzilla85


True story, but others are rehashing old stories too. I am in watcher mode for more information. Something is not right, there is something going on.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Thanks MM, hopefully you'll have something more for us sooner rather than later.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Feeling same from MM zilla....dont have anything here but "something not right"...maybe over night i can get more and send to you and team..
But some things bout badvoodoo that was used syria has a lid on it..
Dont have anything concrete on the reactor in iran..
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JUST FOR REPOST SAKE FOR THOSE NOT GOING TO OTHER THREADS:

Iran to Citizens: Flee Isfahan

[link to freebeacon.com]
 Quoting: MIL MAN


dude is that story a new one or a rehash of one from 2011 hearing conflicting on this, can you clear up?
 Quoting: godzilla85


This interesting update -

Explosion Near #Iranís Isfahan possibly #earthquake

In response, someone asked if small earthquake could be seismographic evidence of attack on plant..

It is geologically active area...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


They may have tested a trigger for a really "big bomb"...if you know what I mean. It would have a specific profile different from an earthquake however.
I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas!
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I can't link it, but I read a few hours ago that the Taliban is going to be opening up a political office in Qatar. There was mention that they want want to talk to the west?? I'm not sure.

And something weird/off in Iran..
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Syria conflict: Fierce fighting near strategic airports

Fierce battles are taking place at some northern Syrian airports, as rebels try to neutralise the government's overwhelming air advantage.

Rebels broke into the Taftanaz base in north-western Idlib province but were pushed back by the army, rebel sources and state media said...

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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