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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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Except for Iran and North Korea. They might just be nuts enough to use it!

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Yep. Which scares you more, The radical nutcases in the Middle East? Or cold, systematic Russian brutality? Pick your poison.
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The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
 Quoting: Steve5728


Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
 Quoting: M m


We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Was Israel’s Latest ‘Air’ Attack on Syria from a Submarine?

[link to www.weeklystandard.com]

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Even more alarming for Israel, however, is that Iran is said to be only weeks away from crossing Netanyahu’s “red line” of possessing 250 kg of 20 percent enriched uranium – enough fissile material for a nuclear bomb.

Netanyahu told CBS that Iran was now just 60 kilograms short of crossing this line, and “they should understand that they’re not going to be allowed to cross it.” His assessment is in line with the International Atomic Energy Agency’s report in May, which alleged that Iran possessed 182 kilograms of 20 percent enriched uranium.
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An EMP of the kind Israel has developed, for example, can be emitted from installations the size of a suitcase smuggled into Iran by land and used to disable specific buildings or target specific offices – for example, the office of the Iranian defense minister, to make it impossible for him to communicate by phone or computer with the outside world for a period of time.
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Yep. Which scares you more, The radical nutcases in the Middle East? Or cold, systematic Russian brutality? Pick your poison.
 Quoting: BioReaper


The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
 Quoting: Steve5728


Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
 Quoting: M m


We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
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The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
 Quoting: Steve5728


Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
 Quoting: M m


We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
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The only thing Iran will do is stall for more time. Bibi knows this! The countdown has begun!
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The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
 Quoting: Steve5728


Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
 Quoting: M m


We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
 Quoting: M m


Yeah I think Assad is too preoccupied with the civil war right now to wanna start a fight with Israel and really be in trouble. Iran would love Assad to take the attention from them but he's simply not in a position to do that despite them having sent him resources to do just that.

No more than a another month in my estimate...the strike has to come soon because Iran shows no signs of slowing down one damn bit. Anything longer than that and they will have crossed the threshold...if they haven't already and all this is moot.
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Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
 Quoting: M m


We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
 Quoting: M m


The only thing Iran will do is stall for more time. Bibi knows this! The countdown has begun!
 Quoting: Steve5728


An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
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Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
 Quoting: M m


We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
 Quoting: M m


Yeah I think Assad is too preoccupied with the civil war right now to wanna start a fight with Israel and really be in trouble. Iran would love Assad to take the attention from them but he's simply not in a position to do that despite them having sent him resources to do just that.

No more than a another month in my estimate...the strike has to come soon because Iran shows no signs of slowing down one damn bit. Anything longer than that and they will have crossed the threshold...if they haven't already and all this is moot.
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Happy Rosh Hashanah! L'shanah tovah tikatev v'taihatem

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We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
 Quoting: M m


The only thing Iran will do is stall for more time. Bibi knows this! The countdown has begun!
 Quoting: Steve5728


An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
 Quoting: M m


An Israeli uncle has told me the same thing!!!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
 Quoting: M m


The only thing Iran will do is stall for more time. Bibi knows this! The countdown has begun!
 Quoting: Steve5728


An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
 Quoting: M m


An Israeli uncle has told me the same thing!!!

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And going back in circular fashion, Russia knows this too. Alas, she is prepared to react when the time comes.
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The only thing Iran will do is stall for more time. Bibi knows this! The countdown has begun!
 Quoting: Steve5728


An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
 Quoting: M m


An Israeli uncle has told me the same thing!!!

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And going back in circular fashion, Russia knows this too. Alas, she is prepared to react when the time comes.
 Quoting: M m


is it possible that russia is simply doing this not to attack anyone per say but to sure up her own borders knowing hostilities are coming and doesn't want anything spilling over into her own territory?
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The only thing Iran will do is stall for more time. Bibi knows this! The countdown has begun!
 Quoting: Steve5728


An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
 Quoting: M m


An Israeli uncle has told me the same thing!!!

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And going back in circular fashion, Russia knows this too. Alas, she is prepared to react when the time comes.
 Quoting: M m


Shit storm brewing! Devil in the White House!
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An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
 Quoting: M m


An Israeli uncle has told me the same thing!!!

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And going back in circular fashion, Russia knows this too. Alas, she is prepared to react when the time comes.
 Quoting: M m


is it possible that russia is simply doing this not to attack anyone per say but to sure up her own borders knowing hostilities are coming and doesn't want anything spilling over into her own territory?
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Accurate to a point but Russia has warned it would not let this happen. There is a hook that ill force Russia to act.
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An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
 Quoting: M m


An Israeli uncle has told me the same thing!!!

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 Quoting: Steve5728


And going back in circular fashion, Russia knows this too. Alas, she is prepared to react when the time comes.
 Quoting: M m


is it possible that russia is simply doing this not to attack anyone per say but to sure up her own borders knowing hostilities are coming and doesn't want anything spilling over into her own territory?
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Could be. IMHO opinion though, Putin will not stand for losing both Iran and Syria.
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Whats coming upon us now is the "real deal". I know we've all been on here, going back and forth about this for a long time now! However, this is it! We are in it now for sure!

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Oh yeah, one more thing. F**k you and your files, NSA!
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What about strong Israeli activity on lebanese sky today ?
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What about strong Israeli activity on lebanese sky today ?
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Israel is watching every move being made in Syria and Lebanon!
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What about strong Israeli activity on lebanese sky today ?
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Israel is watching every move being made in Syria and Lebanon!
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So israeli strike on lebanon or Syria once more can occur this night or every time in coming days.
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What about strong Israeli activity on lebanese sky today ?
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Israel is watching every move being made in Syria and Lebanon!
 Quoting: Steve5728


So israeli strike on lebanon or Syria once more can occur this night or every time in coming days.
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Absolutely, if Israel deems it necessary!
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Whats coming upon us now is the "real deal". I know we've all been on here, going back and forth about this for a long time now! However, this is it! We are in it now for sure!

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Point of no return... well have a "Feet Wet" & Irene call here very quickly..
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Whats coming upon us now is the "real deal". I know we've all been on here, going back and forth about this for a long time now! However, this is it! We are in it now for sure!

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Point of no return... well have a "Feet Wet" & Irene call here very quickly..
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can you give a time estimate?
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Whats coming upon us now is the "real deal". I know we've all been on here, going back and forth about this for a long time now! However, this is it! We are in it now for sure!

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Point of no return... well have a "Feet Wet" & Irene call here very quickly..
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Whats coming upon us now is the "real deal". I know we've all been on here, going back and forth about this for a long time now! However, this is it! We are in it now for sure!

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Point of no return... well have a "Feet Wet" & Irene call here very quickly..
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Feet Wet?
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Whats coming upon us now is the "real deal". I know we've all been on here, going back and forth about this for a long time now! However, this is it! We are in it now for sure!

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Point of no return... well have a "Feet Wet" & Irene call here very quickly..
 Quoting: JW 2305


can you give a time estimate?
 Quoting: godzilla85


Zilla,
Estimate on irene?....i can only give an estimated guess.
I agree with MM& Steve.
I do know that iran and redline is point of no return..
Russia is mobolized and ready to strike when iran is attacked..

This could be the big one with the kingdom to the north goes directly into Israel...

Only an estimated guess at this time..
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Whats coming upon us now is the "real deal". I know we've all been on here, going back and forth about this for a long time now! However, this is it! We are in it now for sure!

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Point of no return... well have a "Feet Wet" & Irene call here very quickly..
 Quoting: JW 2305


Feet Wet?
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Feet wet......feet dry......feet wet old term used for basically in route.
Feet dry arrived at lz.

Carrier/ helo launch feet wet...... hit land and lz, feet dry..
Sorry bio just an old habbit..
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Whats coming upon us now is the "real deal". I know we've all been on here, going back and forth about this for a long time now! However, this is it! We are in it now for sure!

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Point of no return... well have a "Feet Wet" & Irene call here very quickly..
 Quoting: JW 2305


Feet Wet?
 Quoting: BioReaper


Feet wet......feet dry......feet wet old term used for basically in route.
Feet dry arrived at lz.

Carrier/ helo launch feet wet...... hit land and lz, feet dry..
Sorry bio just an old habbit..
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Its alright. I'm a civilian anyway lol
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no way russia initiates MAD over iran, tho some sort of debt/blackmail will be paid to the ruskies under the table. you and i will never know what that is. but i cant imagine their willing to destroy us all over iran, otherwise you'd have to be willing to admit the US/israel could preemptively strike them (russia) along with iran? and why not china then?... the bear will be grumpy and might growl but will ALWAYS choose to survive along side the eagle than die altogether
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my question, lets say the russians have really gone ape shit and are about to start some serious shit...they wanna hit us knowing full well it could lead to a full nuclear exchange or are they after smaller fry ie Israel?
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I don't think nukes will be used. That is my hope at least.
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you me both on that...I sure as hell dont wanna see a nuclear mushroom cloud in my lifetime
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Conventional war is one thing. Nuclear war is something else entirely. I hope there is an understanding in place that says you don't nuke us, and we won't nuke you. Keep it conventional and so will we. Nobody wants nuclear annihilation.
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That mutual agreement went out the window with Reagan and Bush buried it.

Nothing is off limits anymore.

Nothing.

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I don't think nukes will be used. That is my hope at least.
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you me both on that...I sure as hell dont wanna see a nuclear mushroom cloud in my lifetime
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Conventional war is one thing. Nuclear war is something else entirely. I hope there is an understanding in place that says you don't nuke us, and we won't nuke you. Keep it conventional and so will we. Nobody wants nuclear annihilation.
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That mutual agreement went out the window with Reagan and Bush buried it.

Nothing is off limits anymore.

Nothing.

"Set up the standard toward Zion: retire, stay not: for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction."...Jeremiah 4:6
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Iran is going to go nuclear under Rohani. I already posted an analysis on Rohani, his ambitions, his role during the nuke talks early 2000:

Thread: WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away) (Page 218)


And I am going to tell you, Israel is not doing anything about it.

And I tell why I think this:

1) Israel could perhaps, with a very ambitious military operation, attack some of them element constituating Irans nuclear program.

2) The pecking order today is: if you start a war in the ME, you need permission from the white house

3) In the white house sits is a black muslim

Game over. Iran will go nuclear, nothing to do about it.


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