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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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my question, lets say the russians have really gone ape shit and are about to start some serious shit...they wanna hit us knowing full well it could lead to a full nuclear exchange or are they after smaller fry ie Israel?
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You never really know what the Russians are thinking! They are the sneakiest bastards around! Be ready for anything!

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Israel's first 24 hour English service news channel!

[link to www.i24news.tv]

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What is the average time from drill/readiness alert to 'full ready to go'?
"I applied my heart to know wisdom, to know madness and folly, I perceived that this also was a chasing at the wind. For in much wisdom is much grief. He who increaseth knowledge, also increaseth sorrow."
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What is the average time from drill/readiness alert to 'full ready to go'?
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Israel is always on a "full ready to go" alert!
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What is the average time from drill/readiness alert to 'full ready to go'?
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off the top of my head...depends on the size bio..could be 24,48 hours or up to a week
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my question, lets say the russians have really gone ape shit and are about to start some serious shit...they wanna hit us knowing full well it could lead to a full nuclear exchange or are they after smaller fry ie Israel?
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I don't think nukes will be used. That is my hope at least.
"I applied my heart to know wisdom, to know madness and folly, I perceived that this also was a chasing at the wind. For in much wisdom is much grief. He who increaseth knowledge, also increaseth sorrow."
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my question, lets say the russians have really gone ape shit and are about to start some serious shit...they wanna hit us knowing full well it could lead to a full nuclear exchange or are they after smaller fry ie Israel?
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I don't think nukes will be used. That is my hope at least.
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you me both on that...I sure as hell dont wanna see a nuclear mushroom cloud in my lifetime
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my question, lets say the russians have really gone ape shit and are about to start some serious shit...they wanna hit us knowing full well it could lead to a full nuclear exchange or are they after smaller fry ie Israel?
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I don't think nukes will be used. That is my hope at least.
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you me both on that...I sure as hell dont wanna see a nuclear mushroom cloud in my lifetime
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my question, lets say the russians have really gone ape shit and are about to start some serious shit...they wanna hit us knowing full well it could lead to a full nuclear exchange or are they after smaller fry ie Israel?
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I don't think nukes will be used. That is my hope at least.
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you me both on that...I sure as hell dont wanna see a nuclear mushroom cloud in my lifetime
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Conventional war is one thing. Nuclear war is something else entirely. I hope there is an understanding in place that says you don't nuke us, and we won't nuke you. Keep it conventional and so will we. Nobody wants nuclear annihilation.
"I applied my heart to know wisdom, to know madness and folly, I perceived that this also was a chasing at the wind. For in much wisdom is much grief. He who increaseth knowledge, also increaseth sorrow."
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my question, lets say the russians have really gone ape shit and are about to start some serious shit...they wanna hit us knowing full well it could lead to a full nuclear exchange or are they after smaller fry ie Israel?
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I don't think nukes will be used. That is my hope at least.
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you me both on that...I sure as hell dont wanna see a nuclear mushroom cloud in my lifetime
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Conventional war is one thing. Nuclear war is something else entirely. I hope there is an understanding in place that says you don't nuke us, and we won't nuke you. Keep it conventional and so will we. Nobody wants nuclear annihilation.
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Except for Iran and North Korea. They might just be nuts enough to use it!

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I don't think nukes will be used. That is my hope at least.
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you me both on that...I sure as hell dont wanna see a nuclear mushroom cloud in my lifetime
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Conventional war is one thing. Nuclear war is something else entirely. I hope there is an understanding in place that says you don't nuke us, and we won't nuke you. Keep it conventional and so will we. Nobody wants nuclear annihilation.
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Except for Iran and North Korea. They might just be nuts enough to use it!

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Yep. Which scares you more, The radical nutcases in the Middle East? Or cold, systematic Russian brutality? Pick your poison.
"I applied my heart to know wisdom, to know madness and folly, I perceived that this also was a chasing at the wind. For in much wisdom is much grief. He who increaseth knowledge, also increaseth sorrow."
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you me both on that...I sure as hell dont wanna see a nuclear mushroom cloud in my lifetime
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Conventional war is one thing. Nuclear war is something else entirely. I hope there is an understanding in place that says you don't nuke us, and we won't nuke you. Keep it conventional and so will we. Nobody wants nuclear annihilation.
 Quoting: BioReaper


Except for Iran and North Korea. They might just be nuts enough to use it!

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Yep. Which scares you more, The radical nutcases in the Middle East? Or cold, systematic Russian brutality? Pick your poison.
 Quoting: BioReaper


The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
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Conventional war is one thing. Nuclear war is something else entirely. I hope there is an understanding in place that says you don't nuke us, and we won't nuke you. Keep it conventional and so will we. Nobody wants nuclear annihilation.
 Quoting: BioReaper


Except for Iran and North Korea. They might just be nuts enough to use it!

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 Quoting: Steve5728


Yep. Which scares you more, The radical nutcases in the Middle East? Or cold, systematic Russian brutality? Pick your poison.
 Quoting: BioReaper


The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
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Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
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Was Israel’s Latest ‘Air’ Attack on Syria from a Submarine?

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Even more alarming for Israel, however, is that Iran is said to be only weeks away from crossing Netanyahu’s “red line” of possessing 250 kg of 20 percent enriched uranium – enough fissile material for a nuclear bomb.

Netanyahu told CBS that Iran was now just 60 kilograms short of crossing this line, and “they should understand that they’re not going to be allowed to cross it.” His assessment is in line with the International Atomic Energy Agency’s report in May, which alleged that Iran possessed 182 kilograms of 20 percent enriched uranium.
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An EMP of the kind Israel has developed, for example, can be emitted from installations the size of a suitcase smuggled into Iran by land and used to disable specific buildings or target specific offices – for example, the office of the Iranian defense minister, to make it impossible for him to communicate by phone or computer with the outside world for a period of time.
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Conventional war is one thing. Nuclear war is something else entirely. I hope there is an understanding in place that says you don't nuke us, and we won't nuke you. Keep it conventional and so will we. Nobody wants nuclear annihilation.
 Quoting: BioReaper


Except for Iran and North Korea. They might just be nuts enough to use it!

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 Quoting: Steve5728


Yep. Which scares you more, The radical nutcases in the Middle East? Or cold, systematic Russian brutality? Pick your poison.
 Quoting: BioReaper


The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
 Quoting: Steve5728


I've thought about this for some time, what it would personally look like.

1. I'll be here on GLP as the bombs start falling. We will all watch it together. Half of us will be screaming and the other half will think it's a Jewish or NSA/Alien/Demon Hoax.

2. I will wake up in complete darkness, no electricity, no running water. No internet. No clue what happened. I won't hear from another human for 10+ years.

3. I won't wake up at all.

4. See #1 only the last thing I will see will be a bright flash.

5. Everything goes boom, I somehow survive and move to a cave in the extreme northwest. Never to be seen again.
"I applied my heart to know wisdom, to know madness and folly, I perceived that this also was a chasing at the wind. For in much wisdom is much grief. He who increaseth knowledge, also increaseth sorrow."
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Except for Iran and North Korea. They might just be nuts enough to use it!

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 Quoting: Steve5728


Yep. Which scares you more, The radical nutcases in the Middle East? Or cold, systematic Russian brutality? Pick your poison.
 Quoting: BioReaper


The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
 Quoting: Steve5728


I've thought about this for some time, what it would personally look like.

1. I'll be here on GLP as the bombs start falling. We will all watch it together. Half of us will be screaming and the other half will think it's a Jewish or NSA/Alien/Demon Hoax.

2. I will wake up in complete darkness, no electricity, no running water. No internet. No clue what happened. I won't hear from another human for 10+ years.

3. I won't wake up at all.

4. See #1 only the last thing I will see will be a bright flash.

5. Everything goes boom, I somehow survive and move to a cave in the extreme northwest. Never to be seen again.
 Quoting: BioReaper


Preparing for each scenario is wise. We must get our spiritual life together, mental expectation, prepping materials, and contact and enjoy our loved ones.

Paranoia or not, many times I surmise this may be the last time I ever ... (And you could fill in the blank). Before it all ends.
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Yep. Which scares you more, The radical nutcases in the Middle East? Or cold, systematic Russian brutality? Pick your poison.
 Quoting: BioReaper


The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
 Quoting: Steve5728


I've thought about this for some time, what it would personally look like.

1. I'll be here on GLP as the bombs start falling. We will all watch it together. Half of us will be screaming and the other half will think it's a Jewish or NSA/Alien/Demon Hoax.

2. I will wake up in complete darkness, no electricity, no running water. No internet. No clue what happened. I won't hear from another human for 10+ years.

3. I won't wake up at all.

4. See #1 only the last thing I will see will be a bright flash.

5. Everything goes boom, I somehow survive and move to a cave in the extreme northwest. Never to be seen again.
 Quoting: BioReaper


Preparing for each scenario is wise. We must get our spiritual life together, mental expectation, prepping materials, and contact and enjoy our loved ones.

Paranoia or not, many times I surmise this may be the last time I ever ... (And you could fill in the blank). Before it all ends.
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Paranoia is underrated. It has served me well in the past. Kept me out of a lot of bad situations lol
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Except for Iran and North Korea. They might just be nuts enough to use it!

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Yep. Which scares you more, The radical nutcases in the Middle East? Or cold, systematic Russian brutality? Pick your poison.
 Quoting: BioReaper


The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
 Quoting: Steve5728


Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
 Quoting: M m


We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Was Israel’s Latest ‘Air’ Attack on Syria from a Submarine?

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Even more alarming for Israel, however, is that Iran is said to be only weeks away from crossing Netanyahu’s “red line” of possessing 250 kg of 20 percent enriched uranium – enough fissile material for a nuclear bomb.

Netanyahu told CBS that Iran was now just 60 kilograms short of crossing this line, and “they should understand that they’re not going to be allowed to cross it.” His assessment is in line with the International Atomic Energy Agency’s report in May, which alleged that Iran possessed 182 kilograms of 20 percent enriched uranium.
...

An EMP of the kind Israel has developed, for example, can be emitted from installations the size of a suitcase smuggled into Iran by land and used to disable specific buildings or target specific offices – for example, the office of the Iranian defense minister, to make it impossible for him to communicate by phone or computer with the outside world for a period of time.
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Yep. Which scares you more, The radical nutcases in the Middle East? Or cold, systematic Russian brutality? Pick your poison.
 Quoting: BioReaper


The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
 Quoting: Steve5728


Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
 Quoting: M m


We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
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The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
 Quoting: Steve5728


Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
 Quoting: M m


We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
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The only thing Iran will do is stall for more time. Bibi knows this! The countdown has begun!
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The whole situation is surely coming to a head. Too many things coming together at once, both foreign and domestic. We are going to wake up one morning and realize that our lives will never be the same again! G-d help us!
 Quoting: Steve5728


Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
 Quoting: M m


We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
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Yeah I think Assad is too preoccupied with the civil war right now to wanna start a fight with Israel and really be in trouble. Iran would love Assad to take the attention from them but he's simply not in a position to do that despite them having sent him resources to do just that.

No more than a another month in my estimate...the strike has to come soon because Iran shows no signs of slowing down one damn bit. Anything longer than that and they will have crossed the threshold...if they haven't already and all this is moot.
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Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
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We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
 Quoting: M m


The only thing Iran will do is stall for more time. Bibi knows this! The countdown has begun!
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An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
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Iran is crossing the red line as we speak and Bibi has said they will not cross it. Russia knows this as well.
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We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
 Quoting: M m


Yeah I think Assad is too preoccupied with the civil war right now to wanna start a fight with Israel and really be in trouble. Iran would love Assad to take the attention from them but he's simply not in a position to do that despite them having sent him resources to do just that.

No more than a another month in my estimate...the strike has to come soon because Iran shows no signs of slowing down one damn bit. Anything longer than that and they will have crossed the threshold...if they haven't already and all this is moot.
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We will not make it to Thanksgiving without an Israeli attack on Iran. Syria/Hezbollah is a wildcard. Certain movements there will trigger Israeli action in Syria. Weapons transfers or WMD movement, etc. From this point on, all bets are off!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
 Quoting: M m


The only thing Iran will do is stall for more time. Bibi knows this! The countdown has begun!
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An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
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An Israeli uncle has told me the same thing!!!

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Weeks at most. Not to give a deadline but September is far too long to wait at this moment, however Iran can still slow it down if she wishes.

I see this starting with Iran and ending with Assyria being hit again too.
 Quoting: M m


The only thing Iran will do is stall for more time. Bibi knows this! The countdown has begun!
 Quoting: Steve5728


An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
 Quoting: M m


An Israeli uncle has told me the same thing!!!

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And going back in circular fashion, Russia knows this too. Alas, she is prepared to react when the time comes.
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The only thing Iran will do is stall for more time. Bibi knows this! The countdown has begun!
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An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
 Quoting: M m


An Israeli uncle has told me the same thing!!!

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And going back in circular fashion, Russia knows this too. Alas, she is prepared to react when the time comes.
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is it possible that russia is simply doing this not to attack anyone per say but to sure up her own borders knowing hostilities are coming and doesn't want anything spilling over into her own territory?
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The only thing Iran will do is stall for more time. Bibi knows this! The countdown has begun!
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An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
 Quoting: M m


An Israeli uncle has told me the same thing!!!

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And going back in circular fashion, Russia knows this too. Alas, she is prepared to react when the time comes.
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Shit storm brewing! Devil in the White House!
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An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
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An Israeli uncle has told me the same thing!!!

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And going back in circular fashion, Russia knows this too. Alas, she is prepared to react when the time comes.
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is it possible that russia is simply doing this not to attack anyone per say but to sure up her own borders knowing hostilities are coming and doesn't want anything spilling over into her own territory?
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Accurate to a point but Russia has warned it would not let this happen. There is a hook that ill force Russia to act.
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An Iranian uncle says they will not stop now . . . The sprint to cross the line is now!
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An Israeli uncle has told me the same thing!!!

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And going back in circular fashion, Russia knows this too. Alas, she is prepared to react when the time comes.
 Quoting: M m


is it possible that russia is simply doing this not to attack anyone per say but to sure up her own borders knowing hostilities are coming and doesn't want anything spilling over into her own territory?
 Quoting: godzilla85


Could be. IMHO opinion though, Putin will not stand for losing both Iran and Syria.

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